Is there a standard for the average DPR of optimized or near-optimized martial characters at various levels? I would like to compare the damage of an optimized character to a character that has significantly more flavor.
No, not really. If you're interested in what characters taken to the extreme can do though look up the DPR Olympics thread and the Beastmast thread on this board.
Well, thanks. Looks like I need to start a spreadsheet!
Not bad! Anytime you involve matlab into a game then you're definitely hardcore.
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Is there a standard for the average DPR of optimized or near-optimized martial characters at various levels? I would like to compare the damage of an optimized character to a character that has significantly more flavor.
With the Monk/Druid I've built, theoretically and mechanically speaking, he can do 2300(max(avg of 1150)) physical IUS damage per round at level 20. That's assuming I don't miss with flurry and AoO's, and yes his hit is as attack rating as I can possibly make it. If he magically crit on everything, close to or right on par with 4000(max(avg of 2000)). This includes trips/stuns into the attack sequences(assuming at least One of them are successful). This also includes a charge via Pounce with a flurry following.
That's the best I've got! I'm pretty sure any Gunslinger could easily beat that.
Highly survivable build as well. DPR is nothing without proper defenses to survive long enough to put that punch to use.
There really isn't a average DRP per round as it is just one variable.
Someone started a thread long ago that was intended to be 'averages to do the job' kinda thing. It wasn't fox optimised builds just about where should you be to be able to say you were filling that role as a primary. If you couldn't make those levels you should say you were a secondary at that role.
If you were to be a DPR martial at Z1 level you should have about X1 AB and Y1 damage per round.
If you were a blaster caster at Z2 level you should have spell DC around X2 and damage total about Y2.
If you were a SoS/SoD caster at Z3 level you should have spell DC around X3
Etc...
It never really got anywhere because everyone was arguing so much about the minutia. Tried to find it, but my search-fu is weak. Maybe the arguments got out of hand and the mods closed it. Not sure.
...This also includes a charge via Pounce with a flurry following.
I could be wrong, but I don't think FoB counts as a full round attack for Pounce.
Damn it. I deserve at least a back massage for this work. OP, WHERE IS MY GRATITUDE!
No backrub, but favorited post for easy reference in the future :)
one thing to bear in mind is that some builds can do vast amounts of damage in a round, but can only do it in certain situations. the best example of this is sneak attack. a flanking rogue has a huge DPR, but a rogue without flanking, or a rogue fighting something with immunity to critical hits, or a rogue fighting something with blur active (the list goes on)hits like a bard without arcane strike.
1- 5
2- 10
3 - 15
4 - 20
5 - 25
6 - 60
7 - 70
8 - 80
9 - 90
10 - 100
11 - 165
12 - 180
13 - 195
14 - 210
15 - 225
16 - 320
17 - 340
18 - 360
19 - 380
20 - 400
Quality posts from Crosswind, I really appreciate it.
Also, Leonardo, where are you getting that from?
Human Fighter[archer] with 17DEX, 14STR and all level bonuses to DEX
01. Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot
02. @8Greater Weapon Focus(8) @4Point-Blank Master(4), @2Deadly Aim
03. Weapon Focus
04. Weapon Speicalization(4)
05. Deadly Aim
06. Many Shot(6)
07. Clustered Shots(6)
08. Snap Shot(6)
09. Combat Reflexes [Safe Shot]...free feat.
10. Improved Snap Shot(9)
11. Improved Precise Shot(11)
12. Greater Weapon Specialization(12)
And I can see why you don't retrain fighter feats. It makes these numbers a PITA to track correctly.
Quality posts from Crosswind, I really appreciate it.
Also, Leonardo, where are you getting that from?
It´s just a estimation based on my game experience.
one thing to bear in mind is that some builds can do vast amounts of damage in a round, but can only do it in certain situations. the best example of this is sneak attack. a flanking rogue has a huge DPR, but a rogue without flanking, or a rogue fighting something with immunity to critical hits, or a rogue fighting something with blur active (the list goes on)hits like a bard without arcane strike.
Pretty much. DPR depends on situation, and what target you are fighting. Usually it assumes an 'average' target, but the time hwen you REALLY need to dish the hurt is not against an 'average' opponent, it's against the above-average target. This is why a fighter with +4 to hit from weapon training does well in boss-fights, and a monk with masses of attacks but a cruddy attack bonus manages only a flurry-of-misses, yet on paper both can have comparable DPRs.