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If the player wants to do it, let him do it. As a GM you should only adjudicate his actions within the limits of the rules, not tell him what his character can and cannot do.

For the adjudication part there are two things to consider:
1. The impact on the Axebeak
2. The impact on the character

From a physiological perspective the Axebeak, being a bird cannot breed with a humanoid, however polymorphed, without magical intervention. If magical intervention is used then the resultant creature is probably some form of magical beast.

From the Axebeak's psychological perspective, I would rule that attacking or otherwise assaulting your animal companion would be a form of releasing it from service.

From the character's perspective - to start with a Druid assaulting his animal companion in such a way would be 'ceasing to revere nature'and he would become an ex-druid. Furthermore I would say a form of insanity has taken over the character and would present the player with a choice of insanities that they could choose from to represent their character's condition. Either Multiple Personality Disorder if it was distinctly out of character, Schizophrenia if the character's action was a result of confusion or psychosis if it was deliberate action. If he argues with you and refuses to make a decision then default to the combined effects of paranoia and psychosis until he makes up his mind.


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lock wood wrote:

first are you playing in Alaska if so i may know the guy

if not we had a player who was male with a female character druid with a snow fox male. he then would wild shape in to a female snow fox and let his pet climb on and have his fun...

i wish this was all he did but one game he was a cleric male we left him with two teenage male hostages.

the party left with him keeping an eye on them. then we came back to a scene that involved a pound of butter the two boys and him right in the middle of things... leave to your minds...

needless to say all 8 of us other players agreed to kill his character on the spot no questions were asked

i do not play with this group any more

Thread Derail....

Was this in Anchorage? Because I dropped out of a Vampire game after one session because this guy insisted on describing in nauseating detail how he was sexually torturing a captured NPC. The GM was desperately trying to move the game along but the jackass kept insisting on adding more detail to what his character was doing.

I found out later the group broke up after a few more sessions and that the guy was having difficulty finding a new group...huge surprise.


no Fairbanks AK but that don't mean it wasn't him

anchorage was not that far away and he made trips down there some time

he was from barrow

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lock wood wrote:

no Fairbanks AK but that don't mean it wasn't him

anchorage was not that far away and he made trips down there some time

he was from barrow

Sounds like the guy is trying to work something through.


maybe but there are people you can pay to help you with that not the gaming group

Scarab Sages

It would work.

The sorcerer class, dragon bloodline, says that there is a dragon in your family tree.

So if a shape-changed dragon can have sex with a PC humanoid race and eventually produce you; then a shape-changed PC having sex with an animal should produce a similar animal.


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A sorcerous Axebeak with a "Human Bloodline"?


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Let him do it. Throw the mask in if you want, but don't tell him what it is. Just that it will let him do what he wants. Shift his alignment to NE when he starts selling the children, and shift his patron to Lamashtu, but again, don't tell him any of this. Just let it come through in how people treat him, how spells affect him, etc. The big reveal will come when a paladin of Erastil shows up and deals out some sweet divine justice from afar, smiting this wretched servant of the Mother of Monsters.

Bonus hilarity if his awakened babymama shows up to defend him from the paladin :D


This was hilarious, I'm not sure what I would do if anyone in my group did something like that...I believe the inquisitor and paladin would have allot of things to say against itXD

But more on topic, the "siring the tengu race into that game world" would be awesome rp/fluff consequence!

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I removed a post and a reply. While this topic is admittedly kind of gross, there is no reason to be uncivil about it.


Personally... My gut says I would strongly encourage the party to provide an endless stream of "furry" jokes at his expense until he thought better of it.

But Beyond that being able to look like something doesn't mean you could "ahem" rise to the occasion.

Its one thing to not eat animals because you have been them...its another all together to bugger em.

Still...not sure if thats clever, funny, or scary that he would come up with such an idea.

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Star Shadow wrote:

It would work.

The sorcerer class, dragon bloodline, says that there is a dragon in your family tree.

So if a shape-changed dragon can have sex with a PC humanoid race and eventually produce you; then a shape-changed PC having sex with an animal should produce a similar animal.

Dragons are not axebeaks, they are incredibly powerful and above all MAGICAL creatures. Among the most powerful magical creatures native to the material plane. In other words, if "A wizard didn't do it", it was most likely a dragon.


Diasent wrote:
I have a druid in my group with an Axe Beak. After finding out how much baby Axe Beaks are worth, He asked if he could use Wild Shape to turn into an Axe Beak to fertilize the eggs. I really don't know what to say and Paizo doesn't cover this.

He cannot truly fertalize the egg. He can get it on with the Axe Beak, and create a fertalized egg. But eventually he himself has to turn back into his natural form. That includes all his little troopers. Although by the time he has to turn back into his regular self. His DNA will in theory also transform back into human DNA, destroying all the Axe Beak Embryo Cells in development...

Who wants an Omlet?


I might be thinking of 3,5 D&D here but I remeber every shape changing ability/spell up to Shapechange(but not including Shapechange) was that any part of you that became separeted from you reverted back to it's natural form...thus Axebeack...um...little swimmers would revert to human little swimmers.

So the answear by the rules would be no...till he got 9th level spells atleast. As you can do it with Shapechange.

Of course I might be thinking 3.5 here.

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WILDSHAPE (PF)

At 4th level, a druid gains the ability to turn herself into any small or Medium animal and back again once per day. Her options for new forms include all creatures with the animal type. This ability functions like the beast shape I spell, except as noted here. The effect lasts for 1 hour per druid level, or until she changes back. Changing form (to animal or back) is a standard action and doesn't provoke an attack of opportunity. The form chosen must be that of an animal the druid is familiar with.

A druid loses her ability to speak while in animal form because she is limited to the sounds that a normal, untrained animal can make, but she can communicate normally with other animals of the same general grouping as her new form. (The normal sound a wild parrot makes is a squawk, so changing to this form does not permit speech.)

A druid can use this ability an additional time per day at 6th level and every two levels thereafter, for a total of eight times at 18th level. At 20th level, a druid can use wild shape at will. As a druid gains in levels, this ability allows the druid to take on the form of larger and smaller animals, elementals, and plants. Each form expends one daily usage of this ability, regardless of the form taken.

At 6th level, a druid can use wild shape to change into a Large or Tiny animal or a Small elemental. When taking the form of an animal, a druid's wild shape now functions as beast shape II. When taking the form of an elemental, the druid's wild shape functions as elemental body I.

At 8th level, a druid can use wild shape to change into a Huge or Diminutive animal, a Medium elemental, or a Small or Medium plant creature. When taking the form of animals, a druid's wild shape now functions as beast shape III. When taking the form of an elemental, the druid's wild shape now functions as elemental body II. When taking the form of a plant creature, the druid's wild shape functions as plant shape I.

At 10th level, a druid can use wild shape to change into a Large elemental or a Large plant creature. When taking the form of an elemental, the druid's wild shape now functions as elemental body III. When taking the form of a plant, the druid's wild shape now functions as plant shape II.

At 12th level, a druid can use wild shape to change into a Huge elemental or a Huge plant creature. When taking the form of an elemental, the druid's wild shape now functions as elemental body IV. When taking the form of a plant, the druid's wild shape now functions as plant shape III.

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Looks like, by all rights, he can get hot and heavy with his Axebeak. BUT --

The whole act is not something a normal druid would do. A druid is all about respecting the animals. Getting hot and heavy with the beasts so he can sell his children is an evil act. Not only that, but his bestiality could be disrepecting the animal. It's only possible that a few animals would try to attract a human being for sex -- dolphins may be one of those groups that will try to do. Every other animal in the animal kingdom has the fear of man in them (with the exception of the galapagos animals).

Even the domesticated animals have a bit of the fear of man. I would say that unless he actually convinces the axebeak that getting hot and heavy with it will improve their relationship, said axebeak would feel violated and leave him as a companion.

And supposing they do have offspring, isn't it considered evil to sell your own children? I mean really. This should get him to change to neutral evil -- even if the druid is unaware that he did anything wrong.


Two things. The fox and teenage boys story might be the greatest DnD story I've heard...That guy sounds like the maker of Fatal. combine that with it probably being this guy? Even better.

And hey, as far as druids go, ya know...some people love animals and some people love animals.


The last few posters should read the thread. You're rehashing points that have already been made.

Grand Lodge

Just to note, the Demon Mother's Mask also lets you know when a creature is fertile.

So, this is the key item for interbreeding.

In fact, it is not possible otherwise.


Half-Axe beak template:

These monstrous creatures are sired by male druids in taboo rituals or occasionally by outsiders such as incubus who have given up all standards. They have the muscular legs of axebeaks, often grotesquely attached to the torso of the creature the father was. They often have malshapen heads and large beaks, their bodies are decorated with tiny unusable feathers.

+2 strength +2 dex -2 wisdom -6 charisma -6 intelligence

Special: The creature loses its natural ability to fly if it had it, but gains 50 foot run speed and the run feat and improved initiative.

If the base creature does not have a bite attack it gains one.

About: Half-Axebeaks mature faster than the host species allowing the GM to introduce your deformed offspring as early as the next game session you sick bastard.

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