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They already have this for anyone that is at the Alpha level.
From an update post:
All Crowdforger Alpha backers will be given the opportunity to take part in monster casting for Pathfinder Online. Monster casting is a pool of players from which we will draw participants in various monster-based events in the campaign. Participants will be able to play the roles of the monsters needed for the campaign event and will be given direction by the Goblinworks staff on playing these monsters. Being in the monster casting pool is currently the only way that players will be able to play monsters while playing Pathfinder Online. This is a special privilege and not a right—if it is abused by a member of the monster casting pool, this privilege will be taken away.
Good to know, I didn't look too hard at the Alpha level because I don't have $1000 to throw around. I'm suggesting a much cheaper, and probably much more limited, add-on reward for people who aren't rich. If the ability to play as monsters will already be in the game that just makes this idea a lot more viable.
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$750: Village Smithy
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Smelter, anvil & forge
$750: Lumberman
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Lumbermill
$750: Weaver
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Spinningwheel & Loom
$750: Cartwright
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Wagonwright workshop
$750: Masterchef
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Ovens
$750: Fletcher
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Lathe
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That idea gives me an another idea, templates. Give backers the ability to use certain +0 to +1 CR templates on character creation. Though, thinking about it, if I weren't a backer and other people had this option and I couldn't get it I'd probably get ticked off enough to cease playing the game all together. So, maybe not such a good idea...I would assume anything they offer to backers will at some point be purchasable as a micro transaction.
If they did implement templates though, I'd be overjoyed. I know there is a certain CR +1 template I'd really like to play as (hint: see my avatar).
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Also, I don't know about fancy hard point wagon's and the like that other people are suggesting, but just the option start of with any kind of transportation would be pretty tempting to buy.
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$750: Masterchef
Crowdforger Pioneer &
Ovens
$1750: Masterchief
Crowdforger Pioneer &Warthog
Couldn't resist.
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How about an appearance tab? Just a second character sheet solely for cosmetic only gear? I don't know about anyone else but for me being able to choose exactly how my guy looks without gimping myself would be a huge improvement. I'd definitely pay more for that.
We discussed this some in, specifically, in regards to the Daily Deal items. However, if this wasn't implemented by default this would definitely be a good addon/micro transaction.
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The problem with additional tiers is that those of us that got in early would lose our place in the beta line when we switch tiers.You won't lose your place in line; they've made that very clear. The only way you might lose your place in line is if you zero out your pledge.
Most recently in KS comments:
Creator Goblinworks Inc. 7 minutes ago
@Tempest Games - your Enrollment date will be fixed as of the last change you make to your Reward level before the Kickstarter ends. Moving from a Pioneer to a Buddy or Guild could delay your entrance because the first month of both tiers are now filled. The reason is that these packages are designed to let people play together, and we don't want to put someone in the queue who came in at the end in place of someone who pledged earlier.
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just a heads up from the kickstarter the following add ons have been added
Announcing More Add-Ons!
We're going to be announcing a series of great Add-Ons for the project as we reach the final week. Because you can only select one Reward, the Add-On system was evolved by the Kickstarter community as a way to include additional benefits for backing a project. To use Add-Ons, increase the total amount of your pledge by the specified sum. Leave your Reward selection unchanged. In the post-Project Kickstarter Backer Survey process you'll be able to tell us how you want to allocate the Add-On pledge money!
Our first Add-On was the RPG Print Pack, enabling you to get physical copies of the Emerald Spire SUPERDUNGEON and the Emerald Spire Flip-Mat Multi-Pack.
Now we are revealing a number of additional Add-Ons!
$10: Honorable Title
Prior to arriving in the River Kingdoms, your character served with distinction elsewhere and was recognized for that service. You'll be able to choose a formal title for your character of Sir, Dame, Master, Brother, Sister, Father or Mother. You will be able to control when this title is displayed to others in-game.
Here's a couple of Add-Ons for those excited about Destiny's Twin!
$15: Additional Player Pack
You packed with foresight before arriving in the River Kingdoms! You'll get an extra Player Pack that you can assign to any character you create, or sell on the in-game market to players who didn't plan as well for their journey along the Crusader Road!
$20: Additional Alliance Pack
Your network of contacts is exceptional. As you arrive in the River Kingdoms you are able to make friends faster than your peers. You'll get an extra Alliance Pack that you can assign to any character you create, or sell on the in-game market to players who didn't make a great first impression.
(Note that each character can only gain the benefit of one Alliance Pack at a time)
We've heard a lot of requests for subscription time in the Kickstarter, and here are two options!
$30: Three Months of Game Time
Extend the subscription time included with your Reward by +3 additional months! (Limit 3 per account)
$100: One Year of Game Time
Extend the subscription time included with your Reward by +12 additional months! (Limit 1 per account)
(Crowdforger Buddy and Crowdforger Guild backers can treat each account in the Reward individually for these Add-Ons, so a Guild could take 6 One Year Add-Ons).
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I love the title one, but I'd like the title Lady/Lord added as that will be my character's proper title. Even if they charged extra for it (as a lord and lady are higher than knights). Perhaps $25 for the Noble title.
I'd add it so:
$25: Noble Title
Prior to arriving in the River Kingdoms, your character was a member of a noble family. You'll be able to choose a formal title for your character of Lord, Lady, Master, or Mistress. You will be able to control when this title is displayed to others in-game.
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Dear Lisa,
Thank you so much for considering our ideas! :)
And everyone - thank you so much for responding to Lisa's request and getting some price ideas up there -- I didn't get a chance to get on the forums, so i didn't see her post :)
p.s Lisa -- Also... Just an idea... I think Monte Cook as a stretch-goal author for the dungeon might be awesome.... maybe:) :) *wishful thinking to round out most of my favorite designers...
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Again, from the Comments on the Kickstarter page:
Creator Goblinworks Inc. about 3 hours ago
Gah - disregard the part of that message that says "Moving from a Pioneer to a Buddy or Guild could delay your entrance because the first month of both tiers are now filled.". It's wrong.
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I just started this thread to try to get another clarification. There is literally zero chance that Goblinworks is going to screw us over for increasing our pledge level. I expect to hear that directly from the horse's mouth shortly.
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Again, from the Comments on the Kickstarter page:
Creator Goblinworks Inc. about 3 hours ago
Gah - disregard the part of that message that says "Moving from a Pioneer to a Buddy or Guild could delay your entrance because the first month of both tiers are now filled.". It's wrong.
It was wrong because the buddy tier first month is not yet filled. Once it is full, you can not change from first month pioneer to buddy tier with out losing your place is what I understand from the horse's mouth.
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Again, I do not believe for one second that I will lose my place in line because I make changes (like adding $100 for an extra year) to my pledge level.
That is different-that is an add on and requires not change in reward tiers. My original comment was directed toward new tiers added but as Dakcenturi pointed out with the added $400 tier they where smart and just put in the first month beta for the tier reward.
I am worried that people keep saying they would never... When they have said they will.
Hope you get a response soon but I believe the issue was laid to rest on the KS comments page.
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Again, I do not believe for one second that I will lose my place in line because I make changes (like adding $100 for an extra year) to my pledge level.
You do not loose your place by adding, only by switching to a new reward tier.
Example if you are currently at the $100 crowdforger pioneerlevel, you can add an extra $100 to your pledge (for a total of $200) and still maintain your spot.
But if you instead decide to go from crowdforger pioneer to the $175 buddy level you loose your spot in the pioneer line and move into buddy line. You maintain all your rewards such as daily deals you are just in a new line for early enrollment.
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Okay, I've got a question about the "Honorable Title" and how it interacts with the Crowdforger Buddy level. Do I need to increase my pledge by $10, and the title option applies to both accounts, or do I need to add $20 total [one for each account].
I'm totally interested in getting a title, but I know my buddy will be miffed if I get one and he doesn't. His priest of Asmodeus will want to be addressed with all proper decorum.
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Okay, I've got a question about the "Honorable Title" and how it interacts with the Crowdforger Buddy level. Do I need to increase my pledge by $10, and the title option applies to both accounts, or do I need to add $20 total [one for each account].
I'm totally interested in getting a title, but I know my buddy will be miffed if I get one and he doesn't. His priest of Asmodeus will want to be addressed with all proper decorum.
I saw a responce earlier (too lazy too look it up now) but the title is per character not account. If you wanted 2 characters on the same account to have a title it would be $20.
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Okay, I get it now. Sorry if I overreacted.
I actually think what they're doing is appropriate. If you saw that you made it into the first month when you pledged at the Crowdforger Guild level, but then lost your place in line because someone who had pledged as a Crowdforger Pioneer before you upgraded their pledge to Crowdforger Guild, you would be rightly upset.
Again, sorry I overreacted after misunderstanding your post, Jahrael.
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Hmm, limited edition and unique collectables often grow in value, so backers who buy something like that could potentially resell such item's later and gain financial profit from investing in this kickstarter. As far as I know there is probably no better way to gain investors then the potential for personal profit...
What else could Goblinworks offer that would have the potential to profit the backers?
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They could also add the ability to buy extra minis as an add-on. Or how about produce a special colossal mini/statuette only available as an add-on for backers? Time's a bit short to do that now though...
As far as the colossal goes, we haven't seen one yet, but the first part you'll be able to do via the Goblin Squad store. From Update #16:
The Store will be stocked with a variety of items related to Pathfinder Online and it will be a way for you to purchase additional copies of the miniatures added as bonus content to the Crowdforger levels. Those miniatures will be priced between $5 and $8. We'll also have limited quantities of other Goblinworks merchandise.
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To me, that's all the more reason to make a colossal mini (but as I said, they probably don't have the time to put that together). As for the Goblinworks store, it's not open yet, so this would basically give backers a chance to pre-order extra mini's and stuff and get them early.
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I posted this idea in the comment thread on the kickstarter but thought I would post it here also.
How about for $10 we can add "The Goblin Kicker" to all our characters on our account as a suffix instead of a prefix. Basically saying we helped kickstart this project by Goblin Works. =)
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There are two really big gaps in the donation levels. One between $175 and $400, and another between $500 and $1000.
I feel that those holes should be filled.
$200: Dueling Dagger (Evil aligned)
$300: Holy Mace (Good aligned)
$600: Quarterstaff of Liberty (Chaotic aligned)
$700: Greatsword of Order (Law aligned)
$800: Wand of Acid Arrow
$900: Ironwood Longbow +1
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I posted this in it's own thread not knowing this thread existed.
I'd pay $100 or so for a gargantuan sized mini that supported PFO. Big fan of minis in general, so would love to see anything that incorporates more of them as rewards, so long as there is a profit on it to support the PFO project.
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If we make the target that last mini looks particularly large, though we cannot yet see what it might be.
If you pledge at pioneer level, which happens to cover that $100 bill, I believe you get the minis and a bunch of other stuff as well. At least the language about the minis says pioneer level.
"We are also pleased to announce that new WizKids Pathfinder Battles Miniatures are being added to the rewards for all Crowdforger Pioneer levels and above! Crowdforger Buddies will get 2 of each miniature, and Crowdforger Guilds will get 6 of each miniature.
The miniatures will all be drawn from the Emerald Spire Superdungeon, starting with the Bloodbriar Goblin Raider. A second miniature will be unlocked when the Kickstarter reaches $300K, with additional miniatures unlocked for each $100K raised. "
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Yeah, I'm really hoping they shoot past their 1 mil goal in the final hours here. It'd be nice to see 15 different minis...etc.
I already purchased a number of guild packs, so I'll have plenty of minis coming, but as far as add-ons that's the stuff I hope to see. I'd give them even more money for more minis, more pdfs, etc.
The in-game add-ons are nice, but tangible things I can play with now are more fun.
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In the email from Lisa Stevens this morning, I saw this:
" 2 brand-new Reaper unpainted metal miniatures"
as included with the hellknight's most wanted pledge level. What reaper miniatures?! I could find no reference to them on the kickstarter page, though in fairness I didn't reread the page, but "reaper" produced no results in a search.
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In the email from Lisa Stevens this morning, I saw this:
" 2 brand-new Reaper unpainted metal miniatures"
as included with the hellknight's most wanted pledge level. What reaper miniatures?! I could find no reference to them on the kickstarter page, though in fairness I didn't reread the page, but "reaper" produced no results in a search.
It sounds like a new bonus addition they have yet to detail on the KS page.
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Idea: since some who wish to play have no other use for a smartphone (@$960/year) and dual entry authentication codes will be advisable to keep accounts secure, an add-on might be a goblinworks authenticode fob.
The email alternative would be workable except for the fact that the authentication keys are (in my experience) so briefly short-lived that delays in email can render access difficult.
Another alternative could be a service option requiring seperate logins/passwords in the game client and on a secure GW website. The authentication code might be dislayed on the logged-in website next to user name. The client then would require successful login there too before permitting access code entry.
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another idea would be to add a new reward tier.
you already have the crowdforger buddy, how about adding the crowdforger trio where you can have 2 friends join you in the game. it would be x3 instead of x2, add another $75.00 to the pledge level.
you could also add in an item that let you know when each of you buddies logged in.
Raven
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I.E. $50 KS for $100 in Paizo products.They'd be losing money with that. The other way around makes more sense. $100 pledge for a $50 gift card. The whole point of the kickstarter is for them to gather money for their project, not give it away!
Paizo could sell $100 worth of product for $50 and still break even...if not make a small profit. Remember Paizo's costs to produce a product are significantly less than retail price.
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I'm aware, but the point isn't to break even, it's for them to raise money for Pathfinder online. Also Pathfinder Online is being produced by Goblinworks not Paizo, which has it's own company and accounting.
Kickstarter isn't a discount club, it's a place to help fund ideas that you want to support. As is a fair amount of the $1 million Goblinworks is raising will go towards the physical products and shipping for everything they are giving away. If they raise another $200k by "breaking even" on product giveaways, it doesn't really help the project and isn't in the spirit of kickstarter.