Can you touch yourself?


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Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Been wondering, if I use Beguiling Gift to hand off my familiar to an opponent, does it auto succeed with any touch spells I cast? If they are holding my caster, like a grapple, am I considered touching them...?

If the familiar was holding a charge, I would say yes, it goes off when they take it.

Grapple... not sure. I'd say that its "held" like a weapon in your hand, and so they are actively trying to not be touched by the hand. Standard action to make a touch attempt.


Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Been wondering, if I use Beguiling Gift to hand off my familiar to an opponent, does it auto succeed with any touch spells I cast? If they are holding my caster, like a grapple, am I considered touching them...?

Wouldn't your held spell discharge once you cast another even if the familiar is the "toucher?"


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Been wondering, if I use Beguiling Gift to hand off my familiar to an opponent, does it auto succeed with any touch spells I cast? If they are holding my caster, like a grapple, am I considered touching them...?
Wouldn't your held spell discharge once you cast another even if the familiar is the "toucher?"

Yes... so beguiling gift someone to take the familiar and cast a quickened touch spell and designate the familiar as the toucher.


Tarantula wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
Murdock Mudeater wrote:
Been wondering, if I use Beguiling Gift to hand off my familiar to an opponent, does it auto succeed with any touch spells I cast? If they are holding my caster, like a grapple, am I considered touching them...?
Wouldn't your held spell discharge once you cast another even if the familiar is the "toucher?"
Yes... so beguiling gift someone to take the familiar and cast a quickened touch spell and designate the familiar as the toucher.

Seems like a lot of trouble, but I suppose it would work.

Scarab Sages

Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:

Seems like a lot of trouble, but I suppose it would work.

I think there's a feat to cast at distance, when using touch via familiar.

Could also just offer the familiar as a "emotional support animal" to a sad person. Don't need to always charm for results.

On a related point, does the willing thing apply if you don't tell them what the spell is? Seems like you'd need a fair amount of trust to allow a touch spell to willingly affect your PC/NPC without being informed what the spell does. How do they know a harmless spell is harmless?

Familiar option would bypass this, if the subject was already touching the familiar. Might matter if trying to heal a distrustful person that likes kitties...

Shadow Lodge

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In some religions, a paladin who lays hands upon himself too much can fall.


Kthulhu wrote:
In some religions, a paladin who lays hands upon himself too much can fall.

This is not a religion that I want any part of.

Sovereign Court

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Kthulhu wrote:
In some religions, a paladin who lays hands upon himself too much can fall.

Murder scene conversation:

Character 1 : "So it looks like this paladin bled out over several minutes."

Character 2 : "How did he die? Couldn't he have just touched himself?"

Awesome Red-headed Character: "It looks like our victim died..." *puts on shades while looking into the sun awesomely* "...from a crisis of faith."

YEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!


Important to note if it ever comes up, you are considered your own ally for effects that say "Targets Allies". So if the spell ever says Target: 1 willing ally, feel free to get down with yourself on that battlefield.

Liberty's Edge

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At a convention last year, we heard the following

"Roll to touch yourself."
"19"
"You succeed at touching yourself."

We cracked up more than they did.

Shadow Lodge

What if you ask the Paladin to uh... "Lay on Feet"....uh you know because some people uh... hey look over there...


ShoulderPatch wrote:
Fraust wrote:
Yes...unless I'm really really drunk, and then sometimes I miss.
So, what happens if you go to touch yourself but roll a nat 1?

Me personally? Catch a piercing wrong.


aaaaaand bump. I regret nothing.

Relatedly, if you touch yourself while casting Plane Shift and will yourself not to go to the seven hells, do you get shot off instantly? Or will you be a willing creature because you are intending to perform the action the end result of which would be new Devilland?


The key to touching yourself is using protection.

Like cure blind/deaf.

It's a spiral of self healing shame!


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We're missing the really important question:

Can a succubus paladin grapple herself?


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Umbral Reaver wrote:

We're missing the really important question:

Can a succubus paladin grapple herself?

Then, could she pin herself? Do damage to herself? Tie herself up? Sounds like we need to take this back where it belongs....


holding your charge when you are going to touch yourself just leads to a short duration of usually caster level in rounds, so you'd have to be 10th level before you could hold off for 1 minute. Then there are those "personal" spells.

Touch Spells and Holding the Charge:

In most cases, if you don't discharge a touch spell on the round you cast it, you can hold the charge (postpone the discharge of the spell) indefinitely. You can make touch attacks round after round until the spell is discharged. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates.

Some touch spells allow you to touch multiple targets as part of the spell. You can't hold the charge of such a spell; you must touch all targets of the spell in the same round that you finish casting the spell.

so, you can hold a spell up to it's duration... and Disfiguring Touch has a duration of caster level days.

But if you touch multiple targets, it has to be done when you cast the spell...


So, um, what happens if you touch yourself and the discharge is "premature?" Do you get another action that turn since it was so fast?

I mean it's never happened to me, just asking hypothetically.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

It would necessarily be a standard or move action since you only get one swift/immediate action per round.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

So I've been told.


clearly with Touch of Blindness or Disfiguring Touch, like your mom said, you could go blind or face get stuck like that.

and Shadow Projection gives you an incorporeal touch that ignores cover... I cast and touch myself...


Harrison wrote:
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

It's better to get someone else to touch you.

In terms of action economy, of course!

Just make sure they have your permission to touch you. No means No.

Will saves. Will saves


Be sure to always touch yourself before teleporting.

It's a cantrip, so outside of combat you have no excuse not to. Click it or ticket.


Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
I think that you don't need a free hand to touch yourself. You are in constant contact with yourself by definition.

I don't think this is the case. If you are held between the time you cast your ....spell ...and discharge ... your ... spell, you can't touch yourself...for discharging purposes.

I feel dirty.


La Chanteuse wrote:
When I think about you I touch myself...

I'm so bad, I hopped on here just to see the jokes. I knew they'd be good. Or bad, depending... ;)

But waah! I clicked on your url and got taken to a list of YouTube videos for dog food and Fallout 4. (Yeah, what can I say -- my husband researches Fallout, but I just obsess about the food our dogs get. :) )

So -- what was that? I wanna know!


Only if you buy yourself a nice dinner first.


bitter lily wrote:
La Chanteuse wrote:
When I think about you I touch myself...

I'm so bad, I hopped on here just to see the jokes. I knew they'd be good. Or bad, depending... ;)

But waah! I clicked on your url and got taken to a list of YouTube videos for dog food and Fallout 4. (Yeah, what can I say -- my husband researches Fallout, but I just obsess about the food our dogs get. :) )

So -- what was that? I wanna know!

The link is broken. I'll put up a fixed version here:

Content Warning:

Now to pay for an Atonement spell for what horrible thing I have done...

Dark Archive

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As a paladin of Arshea, I will do whatever type of touch the situation requires.


Darksol the Painbringer wrote:

The link is broken. I'll put up a fixed version here:

** spoiler omitted **

Now to pay for an Atonement spell for what horrible thing I have done...

I could tell that the line had to be from a song, but I wasn't familiar with it. Given how truly, egregiously, over-the-top succubishous that video was, it just had to be appreciated fully in this context. So thank-you very much for the link. I'd join you in paying for that Atonement spell, but that might make it worse!


just a matter of taste... *ewww* I touched it with my tongue! 8^P

This technique would have been handy in season 6, season of the adamantine dance!!!


Markov Spiked Chain wrote:

No one is asking the real questions here:

What kind of action is it to touch yourself?

Say I cast Bull's Strength and hold the charge for a few rounds. What sort of action would it be to, um, discharge it on myself?

If it's a standard action, does that mean Paladins are the best class for touching themselves (as a swift action!)

The obvious reference here is the Michael Jackson signature move. Therefore it is a move action.

Unbegreiflich wrote:

holding your charge when you are going to touch yourself just leads to a short duration of usually caster level in rounds, so you'd have to be 10th level before you could hold off for 1 minute. Then there are those "personal" spells.

Touch Spells and Holding the Charge wrote:

In most cases, if you don't discharge a touch spell on the round you cast it, you can hold the charge (postpone the discharge of the spell) indefinitely. You can make touch attacks round after round until the spell is discharged. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates.

Some touch spells allow you to touch multiple targets as part of the spell. You can't hold the charge of such a spell; you must touch all targets of the spell in the same round that you finish casting the spell.

so, you can hold a spell up to it's duration... and Disfiguring Touch has a duration of caster level days.

But if you touch multiple targets, it has to be done when you cast the spell...

Actually, holding the spell is not limited to the spell's duration, but indefinitely. The other, however, is touch and go.

/cevah


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Yes. Yes I can.

;D

Dark Archive

We can touch yourself if you want to,
We can leave your friends behind,
Cause if your friends don't touch and if they don't touch
Well they ain't no friends of mine...


can a paladin who had his arms and legs lopped off still touch himself?


Is it only a flesh wound?

Lantern Lodge Customer Service Manager

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Jokes are usually (harmless) but some people choose to make their saving throw anyway.

Grand Lodge

Cast Grease first for best results.


Tarantula wrote:
Jokes are usually (harmless) but some people choose to make their saving throw anyway.

You know there are some people out there who have Superstitioun and go into a Rage every time they hear a joke.

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