Walking Dead TV Series - How you vex me! (spoilers)


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Concerning the graves:

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I was confused at first as well when they showed the three crosses. However, when they're leaving, you see that there are three graves that were there when they arrived, with two fresh ones in front of them.

Plus, Judith is lying on a blanket to the right of the shot when Carol is digging the grave and Tyrese puts down the body.


That was very.... of mice and men. I like that it showed how bleeped up people have to be to get by in the zombie apocolypse.

There are no therapists in the zombie apocalypse.


Okay, so I decided to catch up on my Walking Dead watching. I just watched Episode 9 of Season 4.

Ugh.

Uuuugh.

Carl is such an unwatchable arrogant dumbass. His dad isn't much better.

Does this show stop being about him? I'm not sure if I can bring myself to watch the next episode.


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He's off screen for a while.


Umbral Reaver wrote:

Okay, so I decided to catch up on my Walking Dead watching. I just watched Episode 9 of Season 4.

Ugh.

Uuuugh.

Carl is such an unwatchable arrogant dumbass. His dad isn't much better.

Does this show stop being about him? I'm not sure if I can bring myself to watch the next episode.

Carl gets over it by the end of the episode though. He just lost his little sister and his home in one day, cut him some slack for being a bit reckless and angry, especially when the guy he's angry at is Rick "I don't want to lead unless it's directly beneficial to me at this exact moment" Grimes.

Besides, pudding makes all things better.


You know, in some ways the show seems to be in a low spot, desperation wise, as everyone keeps saying how bleak it is. And well, it is bleak. But honestly, is anyone else surprised at how many main characters survived the fall of the prison? Almost all of the deaths since the plague storyline were red shirts with a notable exception or two. The viewer at this point obviously knows who all made it, so a lot of the hopelessness the characters feel aren't really felt by us. (I dont think?)

Couple that with the fact that they are all heading to the same place and it feels like everything is actually ok all things considering.

Now don't get me wrong. The episode last Sunday was a gut punch from hell. But also, richly rewarding between Tyrese and Carol. Probably my favorite episode all season. Of course, with the season finale looming, there is time for more characters to get the Game of Thrones treatment.


I think that's a bit of the point. It's hopeless from the character's PoV, but is a bit of a bright spot in the series for the viewer.

Probably setting it up for WHAM Episode in the season finale, like Terminus was overrun by zombies the week before they arrive or some such.

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Last week's episode was rough. But I have a question about the episode before it.

Spoiler:
When Darrell and Glen picked up the guy and he said he'd only killed one person, a woman, and that was because she asked him to, do we know if it was Maggie? I missed a few minutes of that episode I think so I'm not sure what happened.


That was a flashback.

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Ok, thanks. I spent the entire episode worried who it would be.

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I'm really enjoying this season - I'm happy to see them finally out exploring the post-apocalyptic zombie world. I think this season may be my favorite so far.

I also attribute much of the enjoyment to the lack of Rick, who is, by far, the worst leader in the history of history. Why anyone follows his whiny, indecisive, sometimes insane ass around is the greatest mystery of the show.


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Rick has what, a 75% mortality rate? Going it alone has GOT to be safer

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Sebastian wrote:

I'm really enjoying this season - I'm happy to see them finally out exploring the post-apocalyptic zombie world. I think this season may be my favorite so far.

I also attribute much of the enjoyment to the lack of Rick, who is, by far, the worst leader in the history of history. Why anyone follows his whiny, indecisive, sometimes insane ass around is the greatest mystery of the show.

What do you think of this seasons pacing? For me its been inconsistent but I am really enjoying the character development. To be fair to Rick he realized hes not good at being a leader and tried to give up the reins. Nobody is stepping up tho.

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Pan wrote:
Sebastian wrote:

I'm really enjoying this season - I'm happy to see them finally out exploring the post-apocalyptic zombie world. I think this season may be my favorite so far.

I also attribute much of the enjoyment to the lack of Rick, who is, by far, the worst leader in the history of history. Why anyone follows his whiny, indecisive, sometimes insane ass around is the greatest mystery of the show.

What do you think of this seasons pacing? For me its been inconsistent but I am really enjoying the character development. To be fair to Rick he realized hes not good at being a leader and tried to give up the reins. Nobody is stepping up tho.

I haven't had a problem with the pacing because I keep getting my post-apocalyptic fix. One of my all time favorite shows is Life After People, which is a plotless pseudo-documentary style show about what would happen to all the things humans built if the they were to suddenly disappear. 75% of the reason I watch TWD is for scenes where the characters explore the shell of the post-zombie apocalypse world, and as long as I get that, I don't mind slow or odd pacing.


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Sebastian wrote:
Pan wrote:
Sebastian wrote:

I'm really enjoying this season - I'm happy to see them finally out exploring the post-apocalyptic zombie world. I think this season may be my favorite so far.

I also attribute much of the enjoyment to the lack of Rick, who is, by far, the worst leader in the history of history. Why anyone follows his whiny, indecisive, sometimes insane ass around is the greatest mystery of the show.

What do you think of this seasons pacing? For me its been inconsistent but I am really enjoying the character development. To be fair to Rick he realized hes not good at being a leader and tried to give up the reins. Nobody is stepping up tho.
I haven't had a problem with the pacing because I keep getting my post-apocalyptic fix. One of my all time favorite shows is Life After People, which is a plotless pseudo-documentary style show about what would happen to all the things humans built if the they were to suddenly disappear. 75% of the reason I watch TWD is for scenes where the characters explore the shell of the post-zombie apocalypse world, and as long as I get that, I don't mind slow or odd pacing.

"Some people just want to watch the world burn".

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I have seen a few episodes of life after people interesting stuff.

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Sebastian wrote:
I haven't had a problem with the pacing because I keep getting my post-apocalyptic fix. One of my all time favorite shows is Life After People, which is a plotless pseudo-documentary style show about what would happen to all the things humans built if the they were to suddenly disappear.

I have both seasons of the show Life After People - I leave it running in the background while working on my own PA game/rules.

Also - the series gave me hope - that there in fact will be life after people.

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Auxmaulous wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
I haven't had a problem with the pacing because I keep getting my post-apocalyptic fix. One of my all time favorite shows is Life After People, which is a plotless pseudo-documentary style show about what would happen to all the things humans built if the they were to suddenly disappear.

I have both seasons of the show Life After People - I leave it running in the background while working on my own PA game/rules.

Also - the series gave me hope - that there in fact will be life after people.

Oh total hope there could be at least 80 more "people" on this planet before it turns into a Venus like environment.


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I think the pacing this season has been fine for me. I thin there's a good mix of action and character development.

I'm with Sebastion, though, in that I love the post-apocalypse scavenging stuff, so moving out of the prison really enhanced that for me.

Liberty's Edge

Wow. Just finished "The Grove"...this episode is an example of what makes this tv show one of the greatest programs ever made. The world of *The Walking Dead* is beyond harsh, and the characterizations that develop from the events of the show are about as realistic as it gets. This show is literature for your eyes

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Just finished the last episode.

Spoiler:
I've been waiting for the cannibals for four seasons. I can't wait until Rick and crew kill them all.

Awesome.


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They'd better introduce a new moral compass for the group soon. The moral compass always dies, and Michonne is getting too in touch with her feelings for comfort.


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I think if they killed off Michonne or Darryl the sound of the base breaking could be heard from space. I doubt they'll do so unless they plan on losing roughly half their viewership overnight.

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Shadowborn wrote:
They'd better introduce a new moral compass for the group soon. The moral compass always dies, and Michonne is getting too in touch with her feelings for comfort.

More than likely, the new moral compass rescued Beth from Daryl a few episodes ago.

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...what? You know you loved it.


New season premiere...holy [redacted]. That was awesome!


That was satisfying on every level.


Season 5 is the best so far, for me anyway.


Auxmaulous wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:
They'd better introduce a new moral compass for the group soon. The moral compass always dies, and Michonne is getting too in touch with her feelings for comfort.
More than likely, the new moral compass rescued Beth from Daryl a few episodes ago.

Looks like that idea was a wash. I'm pretty sure Gabriel isn't going to be much help either.

I can't believe there's a petition up on change.org to bring Beth back. I'm pretty sure that website is meant for more...meaningful petitions.


How even would they

I can't


*shrug* I don't know, man. Even in a zombie show, a shot to the head is pretty much it for anyone.

Here's the message from the petition page.

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Beth Greene (played by Emily Kinney) was killed off in the mid-season finale in season 5 of The Walking Dead. Her death was far too soon and the writers threw away the potential of a perfectly good character. Her story wasn't over. Emily Kinney and her character don't deserve this. There was so much more to be done with her character and they chose to kill her in a disgusting, unsatifying death that caused more anger and dissapointment than shock and mourning. Beth was a symbol of hope that a lot of women could relate to and see themselves in (especially self-harmers who saw her as someone who overcame their suicidal/depressive feelings). By sloppily killing her it just shows that she was used to further a man's (Daryl's) storyline. We realize that the circumstances she dies in are irreverisble, but this is television. Anything is possible. By signing this petition you can at least show your support for Beth. Let's show Emily Kinney how much we love her and want her back.


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By sloppily killing her it just shows that she was used to further a man's (Daryl's) storyline.

Oh pff. Just more SJW b@$$+#+#. Never mind, I thought it was something normal people had created. I take back my incredulity, this isn't surprising in the least.

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Shadowborn wrote:
Auxmaulous wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:
They'd better introduce a new moral compass for the group soon. The moral compass always dies, and Michonne is getting too in touch with her feelings for comfort.
More than likely, the new moral compass rescued Beth from Daryl a few episodes ago.
Looks like that idea was a wash. I'm pretty sure Gabriel isn't going to be much help either.

Yeah, didn't see that coming, I assumed she was with Gabriel.

Like it or not, Gabriel will be the groups moral compass going forward - both he an Tyreese (for as long as he lives).


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Rynjin wrote:
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By sloppily killing her it just shows that she was used to further a man's (Daryl's) storyline.
Oh pff. Just more SJW b*##&#%&. Never mind, I thought it was something normal people had created. I take back my incredulity, this isn't surprising in the least.

Agreed. The mere suggestion that her death was just a vehicle to forward Daryl's story is one of the more offensive and brain-dead things I've read in a while. Way to try to shift the spotlight away from Beth where it belongs and was intended to be. That makes me more angry than her death did.

And sloppy? Seriously? It was a death we should have all seen coming since the Beth/Daryl episode in season 4 where they practically tell us in so many words that she's going to die. And it was still a complete and total shock. Right up to the split second where your arms go up in the air to cheer when she tries to stab Dawn and then... bam. With your arms still in the air. Sloppy? They had us on a line for a year right up until the last second.

That is absolute perfect writing.


The mistake that continues to be made is people thinking their favorite characters deserve to live. That has nothing to do with it.


Ah, these mid-season breaks are killing me! lol

As for Beth's death, if you watched interviews with her or the show runners after the episode, it was summed up pretty well. Going by my memory here, rather than hunting down the actual interviews, but basically the character of Beth had finally realized she could be strong and look out for herself, so that storyline had come to an end and it was her time to die. Also, I think her death prevented a betrayal/sneak attack by Dawn. The shot that killed Beth was way too soon after the stabbing for Dawn to not have already had her gun drawn, using Beth to block the view of this from Rick and crew. If not for Beth's death and the moment stunning people long enough for Dawn to be put down, that scene could easily have been written as a bloodbath instead.

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Enevhar Aldarion wrote:

Ah, these mid-season breaks are killing me! lol

As for Beth's death, if you watched interviews with her or the show runners after the episode, it was summed up pretty well. Going by my memory here, rather than hunting down the actual interviews, but basically the character of Beth had finally realized she could be strong and look out for herself, so that storyline had come to an end and it was her time to die. Also, I think her death prevented a betrayal/sneak attack by Dawn. The shot that killed Beth was way too soon after the stabbing for Dawn to not have already had her gun drawn, using Beth to block the view of this from Rick and crew. If not for Beth's death and the moment stunning people long enough for Dawn to be put down, that scene could easily have been written as a bloodbath instead.

I don't buy that. Seriously with all the tension that hallway would have turned into the damn O.K. Corral after Dawn fired her weapon. I didn't have a problem with Beth dying, but I felt that scene was just poorly written.


Time for the second half of the season to start up tonight! Everyone is back in one group again, so where do they go and do we get a bunch of grieving over the death of Beth or does someone else die tonight too?


Where do they go. Well, the first 2 minutes of the show are online. They're going to Richmond. Noah was going there with Beth. Good idea? Dunno. Tribute to Beth, sure. Anywhere else to go, not specifically. But when they get there (if they get there) they will be able to spit on D.C.

Morgan needs to catch up, hopefully before they take off.

Grief turns to rage. I foresee many zombies dying tonight.


Well, that was a good but sad episode. I will save further comments til the West Coast has had a chance to see it.

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Woot! We got another one!

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Seriously though, that was an awesome episode, and a great send-off to Tyreese. It was interesting to see all those "phantoms" he imagined (the two little girls were just creepy, though).

In the end, though, I think it was inevitable that he was screwed. He was one of those already killed off by this point in the comics (much like poor Beth), so he was basically cannon fodder for whenever they needed a shock to the viewers.

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It was a pretty good episode!


Spoiler:

I went into this episode calling "Man, either Tyreese dies or he loses an arm".

I got both, do I win a prize?

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Pan wrote:
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I disagree.

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Rynjin wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Why, yes. Step right through this door for your prize. Ignore the shuffling and moaning on the other side of the door. That's just some...friends of mine. They're dying to meet you.


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This half of the season is supposed to be gnarlier than Rick Grimes' beard.


dude made some very rooky mistakes

not sure why he was even with that group. I thought he was relegated to baby sitter not the search and clear crew.

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An excellent episode last night. They slowed things down a bit, which I know a lot of people don't like. I think it works every now and then, though.

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Maggie and Sasha's dealing with the loss of their loved ones was interesting to see. Maggie seemed to be just losing hope and wearing down, where as Sasha just seemed to be getting angry. Reckless is she. Could spell future trouble.

Darryl's little moment of sorry was a welcome departure from his usual complete badass-ness. You need bits like that every now and then, though.

And this dude at the end, I'm hoping he doesn't turn out to be another douchebag.

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