I see no difference between a robot with a beam attack then a dragon with a breath weapon except the dragons gonna fly and lay waste to your settlement.That one is easy to explain. Dragon's don't need their joints to be oiled nor do they need their 9 volts replaced every so often. Robots don't need to be fed cattle nor do they need to sleep on beds made of vast hords of treasure. I hope this helps you see the difference. ;-)
On a more serious note: While I am new to Pathfinder and am still exploring the earlier works, I welcome any and all new options presented to me. I then select those I want to use and ignore those I don't. But I would always rather have more options then less.
I said this based on power level and abilities but your right, a robot needs constant care while a dragon will go about burning the world and looting stuff while a automaton will go about harvest resources and fighting. And yes indeed good sir, the more options the better, and its up to the DM to select what they deem appropriate.
Lol, no wonder starwars scores so high on IMDB
Well, I've wanted Numeria since it was first published. My version had the technology camouflaged. The pc's all considered it weird magic, not just the local barbarians. I hope there won't be machine guns, lasers are fine as long as they don't appear a lot different than for example a wand of magic missiles.
Yeah, put me down for a Distant Worlds hardcover, as well as the Numeria 64-pg + AP idea.
Verces
Maybe for the Numeria AP, one (or more) of the books could involve Verces agents (competitors for the PCs) traveling to Numeria to investigate what has woken up in the Silver Mount (and if it's lootable)? That'd give an excuse to include a Verces write-up, like the Triaxus write-up coming in Reign of Winter.
"Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!"
Edit: And if there is an Numeria AP, Brigh seems perfect for a deity write-up. (FINALLY? Pwease?)
I can't wait for the Annihilator (mecha scorpion) stats in the Inner Sea Bestiary. My players are going to be in for a huge surprise when they dredge one up from the harbor.
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"Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!"
Ha!
Edit: And if there is an Numeria AP, Brigh seems perfect for a deity write-up. (FINALLY? Pwease?)
Definitely. Brigh is one of my two favorite Golarion gods (along with Sivanah) and isn't even in the 'big 20!'
I had ideas for Dark Roads and Golden Hells that didn't get used, about a section of the clockwork plane that derived mechanical energy from giant horizontal gear-shaped waterwheels (large enough and slow moving enough that individual cogs were used as quays for docking ships visiting the clockwork goddess' domain) powered by the river Styx that could rock for Brigh.
"Ariel, Ookla, RIDE!"Ha!
Edit: And if there is an Numeria AP, Brigh seems perfect for a deity write-up. (FINALLY? Pwease?)Definitely. Brigh is one of my two favorite Golarion gods (along with Sivanah) and isn't even in the 'big 20!'
I had ideas for Dark Roads and Golden Hells that didn't get used, about a section of the clockwork plane that derived mechanical energy from giant horizontal gear-shaped waterwheels (large enough and slow moving enough that individual cogs were used as quays for docking ships visiting the clockwork goddess' domain) powered by the river Styx that could rock for Brigh.
Wow Set that sounds darn cool!
And I ordered my first actual physical item from the Paizo store. Distant Worlds. Pretty much due to Mikaze's enthusiasm. I mean, I already wanted it, but after Mikaze totally otaku'd it I had to get it. The Secrets of the Shattered Mount sounds cool too...
I can't wait for the Annihilator (mecha scorpion) stats in the Inner Sea Bestiary. My players are going to be in for a huge surprise when they dredge one up from the harbor.
Don't you mean when the Annihilator dredges itself up from the harbor?
I'd vote book. Its too close to Kingmaker to do a whole AP. I'd want to use the book to expand, or if you insist on an AP write it as a psuedosequal to Kingmaker one of the two.
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I'd vote book. Its too close to Kingmaker to do a whole AP. I'd want to use the book to expand, or if you insist on an AP write it as a psuedosequal to Kingmaker one of the two.
I assume you mean that Numeria is geographically close to he River Kingdoms? I don't see how that would be a limitation on an adventure path though. There's been loads in Varisia - and though geographically close to each other Numeria and the River Kingdoms are so very wildly different that I don't see how a Numeria AP and Kingmaker would have anything in common.
Well, James also said he's very eager to do a Numeria ... well, I can't quite recall what he said he was very eager to do.
But I want to say it was AP.
There are people who hotly debate whether halflings should always pay homage to their inspiration or be allowed to wear Nike's. Giving the barbarian a technicolor laser sword for six months? Sounds like a big risk for a niche audience within a niche hobby to do a whole AP...
But I agree with nightflier above. If you're going to do it, DO IT RIGHT! A campaign book, AP and at least one module.
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So many things they could reference from 70's and 80's cartoons. Pirates of Black Water, Visionaries, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors (magic rings etc), Golden Lance, He-Man/She-Ra, Thundercats, Blackstar, Hurculoids, Thundar(natch), TMNT, Vytor, among so many others.
So many things they could reference from 70's and 80's cartoons. Pirates of Black Water, Visionaries, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors (magic rings etc), Golden Lance, He-Man/She-Ra, Thundercats, Blackstar, Hurculoids, Thundar(natch), TMNT, Vytor, among so many others.
Weren't there some high-tech stuff in the Gummi Bears too?
As a GM/DM/Whatever you wish to call it, I have always enjoyed having the blank places on the Golarion Map filled in, even if I wasn't thrilled at the content. However, Numeria is one of those places that has had frustratingly little material. I have always wanted to know how things in Numeria, particularly the items, organizations, and creatures all worked. The thing is that I hope that, eventually, all the blank places in the Inner Sea Map (And possibly beyond) become filled by the company that has done such a good job with the setting already. Plus, as a DM or GM you always have one very powerful resource available for not adding in any material you don' want: The word NO.
To add to my previous statement, I've been dying to use the Annihilator since I first saw it in the Inner Sea World Guide. That thing looks so beast!
The Annihilater was stated up in the Innersea Bestiary along with the Gearsmen, Myrmidon(another robot) and the mana waste mutant for those who want mutants.
So with the recent announcement of modules turning to be 64 page books...
Hmmm...
Oh hells yeah people! We got game! Force-fields, plasma cannons, laser rifles, chain-guns, rocket launchers, gear-men, androids, and this lovely, lovely line. "While the Technic League has developed magical solutions to some of these requirements, actual details on creating robots are beyond the scope of this book." Emphasis added.
It's good we are asked our opinion, but no.
Simple answer...YES!
Complex answer, I think you could start with a new format 64 page adventure. It could be a perfect intro to the region with just the right mix of tech crunch and fluff story.
Long Range answer: I would love some sort of great mystery to be attached to Numeria. Perhaps it could revolve around why the tech for the most part does not spread out of Numeria. Perhaps there is a massive "wireless" power source inside Silvermount and the most powerful tech simply can't be used more than a certain distance away.
OR perhaps what the gearsmen are really thinking/up to or ... there really are so many juicy possibilities with Numeria.
Really the tech is the least of it for me. Make it new or make it analogous to magic like lasers that are really just scorching rays but Numeria is a land full of possibilities and that is what interests me.
It'd be pretty cool if the next AP was in Numeria.
Just sayin'
What exactly is the Iron Gods?
Its a title, or a metaphor perhaps. I don't believe actual gods made of iron are present, rather its a metaphor for the melange of science and sorcery.
Just like Wrath of the Righteous is about a war against demons and not actually about being pissed off while feeling righteously indignant.
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i think you get to help a giant alien robot escape government forces in post world war 2 era middle america.
I stand corrected.
Justin Franklin reports from Gencon, "Iron Gods are creatures waking up in Numeria and granting spells."
Things were interesting before, but this just jumped up to a new level of crazy.
Further reports courtesy of Forum Friend, Justin Franklin:
"New robot in each volume. Support products are getting announced tomorrow."
well hopefully this means we get a deity article on Brigh...
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I stand corrected.
Justin Franklin reports from Gencon, "Iron Gods are creatures waking up in Numeria and granting spells."
Things were interesting before, but this just jumped up to a new level of crazy.
Holy sheet.
TOZ, I know you have a wonderful wife but ... can I haz ur babies?
Ozzy would love to lick your face.
Wait, this is really happening?!
Iron Gods AP, set in Numeria.
This sounds very good...
Wait this isn't a joke? If so AWESOME, if not then shame on you;)