What the hell to do with a Kitsune?


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Hey all.

This is a question for PFS, thank you

So at the recent Gencon my wife and I got not one, not two, but FOUR Kitsune boons.

We gave 2 of them away to really new players that wanted them really bad but got other boons with their rolls.

Anyway......

We are now sitting on 2 Kitsune characters available.

I am sure if we watched anime we would have all sorts of ideas for fox people.... however we do not.

This is a question for PFS, thank you

The racial stats are decent, the special stuff is cool but it seems that most days you are walking around as a human with some odd stats.

If we make them, one will be an enchanter sorcerer as i wanted to play one anyway and these make it soooo much better.

But what of the other? my wife was thinking ninja? We were thinking of a sneeky natural weapon useing SA master.

This is a question for PFS, thank you

The issue is that Aspect of the Beast seems to be the best way to have always on claws, yet even as a shapeshifter they do not qualify.

So really any ideas would be great.

Any easy way for a Ninja to get claws?

Thanks for the help, and sorry for rambling.

This is a question for PFS, thank you

Sczarni

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

2 levels of Ranger and take the natural route.


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Kitsune Witch/Ranger with fox familiar and giant fox animal companion. The chickens will never know what hit em.

Seriously though a Kitsune Ninja would be pretty cool. Take Fast Shifter instead of Kitsune Magic for your racial option.


Shfish wrote:
2 levels of Ranger and take the natural route.

Crap, I was hopeing there was some workaround like the half-orc trait for a bite..

Ok so asside from a Ninja (and the "How the hell many foxes can I have?" build) what would YOU make as a Kitsune character? For PFS


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You might be able to squeeze in another fox if you go with an animal domain cleric.

edit: Sorry, I'm a bit of a foxtimizer.


And on the drive home from gencon we thought the same thing.

when asked to do introductions at the start of a mission...

"Um, you see like 5 foxes sitting on the floor looking at you.... Seriously, why are you looking at me like that?"

However we are trying to NOT make the Judge want to mouth punch us as soon as we sit down.

I already feel a little dirty thinking of playing a Kitsune to begin with.

Silver Crusade

I'd say visually they'd make awesome bards!

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I am sooo jealous! I went to the Arsenal game room on Wednesday and got an Oread, but I've had awesome ideas in mind for a kitsune and would really prefer that. Is it legal to trade boons, and would you be interested?


I feel for you. Someone in my group is going to play one for our next campaign, and I already have the urge to shove her character off of the first available cliff.


shadowhntr7 wrote:
I am sooo jealous! I went to the Arsenal game room on Wednesday and got an Oread, but I've had awesome ideas in mind for a kitsune and would really prefer that. Is it legal to trade boons, and would you be interested?

Yes trading boons is fully legal.

check the PFS area for a thread ALL about just that.


I never really understood the pfs aversion to non-tolkien races. In a campaign of magic, might, and direct divine intervention, a furry tail is the line in the sand......


Fabius Maximus wrote:
I feel for you. Someone in my group is going to play one for our next campaign, and I already have the urge to shove her character off of the first available cliff.

Probably you're going to want a ring of featherfall on that kitsune. Not everyone is as pro-fox as I am, apparently.

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Winter_Born wrote:
I'd say visually they'd make awesome bards!

There isn't much lore on the Kitsune between the three products they've appeared in (Dragon Empires Gazetteer, Dragon Empires Primer, and Advanced Race Guide), but pulling some lines from the Advanced Race Guide gets you this:

Advanced Race Guide wrote:

Despite an irrepressible penchant for deception, kitsune prize loyalty and make true companions. They delight in the arts, particularly riddles and storytelling, and settle in ancestral clans, taking their wisdom from both the living and spirits.

Quick-witted and nimble, kitsune make excellent bards and rogues. It is not uncommon for one to pursue sorcery, while those few born with white fur and pale eyes usually become oracles.

Personally, I think an Arcane Trickster Kitsune can be extremely fun, especially when you combine either Bard and Rogue or Bard and Ninja together. You'll end up with an amazing supporting character who has virtually every skill in the game among their list of class skills. Because Arcane Trickster's prestige class qualifications are fairly easy to meet, you'll leave yourself open for huge amounts of customization later on. Some highlights of the build include the following:

Gilbness; absolutely amazing for a skill-based character and fits very well with the kitsune theme.

Jester's Jaunt; an often forgotten bard spell you'll get at 11th level that is fantastic; especially for a very movement-heavy sneakster, such as this build.

Dawnflower Derverish: If you can somehow justify your kistune worshiping the required deity, having a heavy Dex-based Bard/Rogue/Arcane Trickster could be extremely fun; especially when you only really need Dexterity, Charisma, and maybe a little Intelligence for your build.

Knife Master; I love this archetype because knives are one of the only weapons you can use in melee and at range with absolutely no penalty. An arcane trickster that runs around throwing returning spellstoring knives sounds pretty awesome to me. If you want to be extra-nasty, take the Magician Bard archetype and use it to add Shocking Grasp to your list of spells. So now you're throwing around Spell-Storing daggers with Shocking Grasp stored inside of them. And your Sneak Attack does 1d8 instead of 1d6. Also note that Knife Master doesn't replace Sneak Attack; it supplements it, so you still qualify for the class.

Kitsune Trickster: Very fun, flavorful little Rogue archetype. I think its better for NPCs but you can't ignore the setting flavor it provides!

Sandman: Sandman Bards are unique in that you can effectively reduce the number of rogue levels you need for the prestige class; at 5th level you get Sneak Attack, meaning you only need 1 level of rogue instead of 3. This means you'll have more Bard Spell levels, but it doesn't change how long it takes you to get into the class. Being very spell-stealing focused is rather appropriate for a trickster race as well, but its not something you'll always get to do.

I think is a cool idea for a character, at least, but I wouldn't play it if you're not going to stick to the character; Prestige Classes are funny like that.


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Bard would fit fairly well.

Sadly I think shes still leaning Ninja. Now to just figure out how to make it work.

The issue is that Humans are just better, so how do i leverage Kitsune to make a bad ass Ninja?

Sovereign Court

Having read nothing of this thread but the title, my suggestion is Bloatmage. Kitsune bloatmage would be so awesome. ;)

Silver Crusade

Thefurmonger wrote:

Bard would fit fairly well.

Sadly I think shes still leaning Ninja. Now to just figure out how to make it work.

The issue is that Humans are just better, so how do i leverage Kitsune to make a bad ass Ninja?

Focus on her specialty, and then pick some characterful feats/traits/skills.

You don't have the be the absolute best numbers-wise in a class, to a be a great, memorable character.

I'm playing a PFS Dwarf Paladin, and doing amazingly well at the table.

Sczarni

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Play beast master ranger...name him Star, and give him a flying mount like maybe a roc...and just do the aerial sniper... ;) hehe


If you want an anime idea I would watch Pom Poko, it's mainly about raccoons that can turn human, but they meet the sly foxes that have infiltrated society a long time ago.

How about a druid or a witch with a fox familiar furthering the cause of foxes?

I'm not sure if you wanted flavour advice or optimizing advice.

For a bit of both I would go sorcerer.
(I don't know that much about PFS that's why I won't give more specific advice)

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I like the idea of a Kitsune rogue or ninja that collects magical tails. Because of the rogue talents or ninja tricks, you will still have a number of non-tail feats. By 11th level, you will have 7 tails!

Dark Archive

I would be a fan of bard, but another great choice would be a divine hunter paladin.


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I'm somewhat new to Pathfinder, but am about to start playing Jade Regent as a Kitsume Magus (Bladebound). What do you think of this combination? Any suggestions on how to play it would be appreciated.


Haven't ever used one before, but the Disney Animated Cartoon of Robin Hood springs to mind.

He seems like a duelist to me. Maybe a Rogue as he's a bit of an Acrobat. :)


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

I've got a Kitsune boon too. I'm thinking Bard(Dawnflower Dervish)/Rogue (because I really want evasion).


I think bard would be a good choice.

Scarab Sages

I wish Treesinger wasn't an elf only archetype. So want to make a kitsune Treesinger named Kurama if I ever got the boon. But as far as good classes I have to agree with many of the others, bards, ninjas/rogues or sorcerer would fit the kitsune. Just don't name your ninja kitsune Naruto. :3

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