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Sorry Weapon Finesse not Focus.

I'm thinking of changing things up a little and going;
Lvl Class HP SP Feats
1Rogue 11 8 Weapon Focus, Agile Manuevers
2Fighter 8 4* Dirty Fighting
3Fighter 8 4* Combat Expertise, Sap Adept, Bludgeoner
4Barbarian 9 4
5Barbarian 9 4 Tengu Wings or Improved Dirty Trick
6Rogue 8 8
7Rogue 8 8 Improved Dirty Trick or Greater Dirty Trick
8Rogue 8 8
9Rogue 8 8 Greater Dirty Trick or Sap Master
HP Total: 77 Skill Points Total: 56* (4 must be spent on Int skills)

I'll take a hit to my skill points but better off on feats. Not sure if I should drop Tengu Wings so I can get both Greater Dirty Trick and Sap Master rather than wait till lvl 11 to have both. Any suggestions?

Here is what I am currently thinking:

Race: Tengu
Traits: Reactionary: +2 Init
Mind over Matter: +1 Will
Alignment: CG
Deity: Hei Feng
Faction: Andoran (former Lantern) (know I need to change to a new one)
Languages: Common, Tengu, Tien, Draconic, Verssian, Thassolonian, Abyssal, Infernal, Azlanti, Aklo, Celtial, Chellish
Classes:
_Unchained Rogue (Scout/Swordmaster) 6 (Trap Spotter, Pressure Points, Combat Trick)
_Barbarian (Urban) 2 (Lesser Fiend Totem)
_Fighter (Lore Warden) 1 (Bonus Feat: Sap Adapt)
Ability Scores:
_Str 10
_Dex 22
_Con 14 (Belt of Mighty Con +2)
_Int 10
_Wis 16
_Cha 10
AC: 25 (Glamoured +2 Mithral Chainshirt, Ring of Prot. +1, Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier, Dusty Rose Ion Stone)
Fort: +11
Ref: +13
Will: +8
Melee: +14 (Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists +1)
Range: +13
CMB: +13
CMD: 24
Init: +8
Skills:
_Acrobatics +17
_Appraise +4
_Climb: +4
_Disable Device +21
_Escape Artist +10
_Fly: +6
_Kn Local +4
_Kn Nature +4
_Linguistics +15
_Perception +22 (Eyes of the Eagle)
_Sense Motive +12
_Sleight of Hand +12
_Stealth +19
_Survival +12
_Swim +4
Attacks:
_Bite 1d3+7 B/P/S
_Claw 1d3+7 B/S
_Gore 1d8+9 P
_Shortbow 1d6

Feats:
_Weapon Finesse
_Agile Maneuvers
_Dirty Fighting
_Tengu Wings
_Improved Dirt Trick
_Bludgeoner
_Sap Adapt

Not sure if I should keep Tengu Wings or swap it for Greater Dirty Trick or Sap Master.

Sap feats only work with Blunt weapons, though, right? Claws are Slashing. How will you lock in your Sneak Attack Damage? I like Dirty Tricks. Combat Expertise, Improved Dirty Trick, and Quick Dirty Trick. You get 3 attacks with your Claws and Bite. Blind your opponents in place of your Bite Attack, then get Sneak Attack Damage with your 2 Claws.

Claws and Bite attacks have a bludeoning component to them so the qualify for Bludgeoner and the Sap feats.

As far as Vanish that would require me spending another talent on getting Ki. Might be worth considering after getting some sleep. Still like Pressure Points though.

I'm not sure dipping into anymore classes is doable at this point but I'll have to look at them for other characters. Can't quite swing the 13 Int for Combat Experise but I'll have to look at the Dirty Trick feats. Not sure if I can fit them in but I'll see.

My deadlines Friday, so I'll get some sleep and try to see what gels with what I currently have. Ty for info so far.

Another thought, does Surprise Manuevers work with Scouts Charge? Sounds like the target is only flat footed for the purposes of Sneak Attack and nothing else.

Just wanted to make sure it was legal for PFS.

Is there a reliable way to deny Dex for Surprise Maneuver? Does Ninja Trick not work Unchained Rogues in PFS? I really like doing 9 (possible) points of Dex or Str damage with Pressure Points.

Edit: Two feats I thought would combo well with Bludgeoner would be Sap Adept & Sap Master.

Sorry, I took the alternate racial to get the claws. As far as the Bludeoner feat, took for those instances when I need to take an enemy alive and still get sneak attack. I kinda prefer Urban Barb for the Dex Rage and Crowd Control (has helped in several scenarios).

I'm curious why you suggest getting rid of Pressure Points? What is better option to replace Offensive Defense with since its out? I don't see how Dirty Fighting or Surprie Maneuvers helps much since they both require me to be flanking to get the benefit or am I missing something?

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I recently got back into PFS after a 2 year hiatus and come to find that their is a better version of the Rogue! And that any rogues made before is allowed to be rebuilt into the new one. I was hoping to get a little advise on how to best adapt him to an unchained rogue. Here are his current stats:

Race: Tengu
Traits: Reactionary: +2 Init
Mind over Matter: +1 Will
Alignment: CG
Deity: Hei Feng
Faction: Andoran (former Lantern) (know I need to change to a new one)
Languages: Common, Tengu, Tien, Draconic, Verssian, Thassolonian, Abyssal, Infernal, Azlanti, Aklo, Celtial, Chellish
Classes:
_Rogue (Scout/Swordmaster) 6 (Trap Spotter, Offensive Def, Pressure Points)
_Barbarian (Urban) 2 (Lesser Fiend Totem)
_Fighter (Lore Warden) 1
Ability Scores:
_Str 10
_Dex 22
_Con 14 (Belt of Mighty Con +2)
_Int 10
_Wis 16
_Cha 10
AC: 25 (Glamoured +2 Mithral Chainshirt, Ring of Prot. +1, Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier, Dusty Rose Ion Stone)
Fort: +11
Ref: +13
Will: +8
Melee: +14 (Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists +1)
Range: +13
CMB: +13
CMD: 24
Init: +8
Skills:
_Acrobatics +17
_Appraise +4
_Climb: +4
_Disable Device +21
_Escape Artist +10
_Fly: +6
_Kn Local +4
_Kn Nature +4
_Linguistics +15
_Perception +22 (Eyes of the Eagle)
_Sense Motive +12
_Sleight of Hand +12
_Stealth +19
_Survival +12
_Swim +4
Attacks:
_Bite 1d3+7 B/P/S
_Claw 1d3+7 B/S
_Gore 1d8+9 P
_Shortbow 1d6

Feats:
_Weapon Finesse
_Agile Maneuvers
_Tengu Wings
_Extra Rogue Talent: Pressure Point
_Bludgeoner

I know the Unchained version gets Weapon Finesse for free so that allows me another feat. I was looking at either Blood Beak or another Extra Rogue Talent though I'm open to suggestions. Or if there is any other tweaks that could be made with all the materiel that has come out since my hiatus (still trying to catch up). Thanks in advance.

Never used many Necro spells before. Don't a lot of them have the evil spell tag on them therefore I'm not able to cast many of them?

What about Spell Focus Conjuration & Augment Summon? I know summoning is good (or darn near broken with Summoners). Would that be a good avenue to pursue with buffing and the occasional debuff?

I have been in far too many fights in Society play where a series of bad roles on our side and a series of good ones on the other side had the party on our knees. No cleric can be prepared for everything. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a Channel keep a character from hitting their -Con. So I'd rather be able to heal than not. And it is only one feat to make sure I'm only healing the party.

Interesting rangerjeff. I play a lot of Society, so I'm pretty sure I want Selective Channelling as my 1st feat (don't want to heal the enemy if I can help it). Since Guided is in play definitely going with a Rapier as my primary weapon. And while I generally dislike Two Weapon Fighting, those Net feats do look interesting. Never used nets before, are they any good? Don't they have a straight & low DC to escape from?

Edit: And wouldn't I need to take Agile Maneuvers to really be able to use Combat maneuvers well?

Guided has been approved, so I'm taking Weapon Finesse as my 3rd level feat.

What Diety is your cleric Worshipping Gauss?

Guided is actually in one of the Splat books for Parhfinder (Pathfinder 10: A History of Ashes) but your right it's not core so I'll ask.

What about a lvl of Gunslinger? The GM has already said that it is emerging in his world.

Ideally I'd like to be Buffer/Debuffer that can do something meaningful in combat other than the above since I don't want to be twiddling my thumbs when I run out of spells. Oh, and like having the 14 in Cha since it affords me a decent bonus to social skills (which do come up even in dungeons).

I'm leaning toward Buffer/Healer and taking ranged shots when not doing the others. I thought also about taking Weapon Finesse and eventually getting a Guided Rapier. Thought it might be a tad harder pull off than range. I also thought about taking a 1 level dip in Gunslinger to do range touch attacks. I'd like to hear what would be the best combat path to take.

No, just fits the characters background having been raised in a swamp (plus geting Perception as a Class Skill). Sorry, I did pick up Glider though, not sure of giving up Camo (quite a few forests one has to travel through in a quite a few games). Don't know much about the game other than it will be episodic and will mostly be dungeon crawl/combat.

So I'm making character I've had brewing in my mind for a game. A Grippli Cleric of Cayden Cailean. The character creation is 25 pts, 2 traits, lvl 3, starting wealth is 3140 gp. Here is what I've got:

Race: Grippli
Str: 10
Dex: 16
Con: 13
Int: 10
Wis: 18
Cha: 14

Traits: Jungle Guide, Fortified Drinker
Domains: Liberation, Travel
Skills: Diplomacy 3 ranks, Heal 1 rank, Knowledge Religion 1 rank, Linguistics 1 rank, Peception 1 rank, Sense Motive 1 rank
Feats: Selective Channelling, ???

So I could use some advise on a second feat as well as what other feats I should take. And equipment since I haven't played many clerics. I'm thinking of being primarily a caster with maybe a little range as well. Thanks in advance to everyone's advice.

Now that is interesting. I'll bring it up with my local judges and see what they say.

How'd you get a 3rd illusion spell by 5th?

Final build looks like this:

Race: Gnome (Eternal Hope replacing Hatred & Defensive Training)
Str: 8
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 19
Traits: Dangerously Curious, Reactionary
Feats: Spell Focus (Illusion)
Curse: Blackened
Revalation: Lure of the Heavens
Favored Class Bonus: 1/2 Oracles Curse
Starting Osirons: Create Water, Detect Magic, Read Magic, Stabilize
Starting Spells: Bless, Burning Hands, Cure Light Wounds, Prot. from Evil

Lvl 3: Awesome Display, Effortless Trickery
Lvl 4: +1 Cha
Lvl 5: Spell Penetration
Lvl 7: Extra Revalarion (Moonlight Bridge), Cloak of Many Stars,
Lvl 8: +1 Cha
Lvl 9: Greater Spell Focus (Illusion),
Lvl 11: Greater Spell Penetration, Dweller in the Darkness,

Ok, I'll stick with straight Oracle (I generally like to anyway). I'd rather focus on the illusion aspect of the character so I'll stick with the current feats, unless you have any other suggestions for them?

I just had a thought. What about a 1 level dip into Sorcerer to get the Blood Arcana for Pestilence and Elemental (Fire)? Then I could get Vermin with my Illusions as well as boost the damage of my fire spells.

@david: You can break up the hours of use for Coat of Many Stars so you can stretch it out. Plus it saves on investing in expensive armor, which I have found money to be a bit thin in PFS at higher lvls. And as Seriphim84 pointed out I'll be spending most of my money on headbands of Cha and rods so saving money where I can is a plus.

@Seriphim84: Hmm maybe my Feat order should be like this; Spell Focus (Illusion), Effortless Trickery, Spell Penetration, Extra Revalation (Moonlight Bridge), Greater Spell Focus (Illusion), and Greater Spell Penetration. And I should purchase Rods of Focus Spell, Persistent Spell, and Piercing Spell.

@paul: I plan buffing the party, burning the enemies, and as a last resort Color Spray the enemy.

@mplindustries: Unfortunately I have heard from judges that you can't crossblood with a Wildblooded Bloodlines mplindustries. Though a 2 lvl dip in Bard would be interesting. Not sure how to alter things to accommodate it though.

@stuart: I was thinking of getting a Piercing Spell Rod so that I'd have a plus 9 to overcome SR. That sound good?

That's a cool build. Not sure if its quite what I'm looking for though. I'd like to be mostly oracle rather than something else with a few oracle levels. But that's just me. Plus I have 3 characters with pets already.

Edit: Might use for a home game though. Especially it's a small party.

Hmm, that does sound good. What should I drop to incorporate it?

So your suggesting something like this:

Race: Gnome (Eternal Hope replacing Hatred & Defensive Training)
Str: 8
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 19
Traits: Dangerously Curious, Reactionary
Feats: Spell Focus (Illusion)
Curse: Blackened
Revalation: Lure of the Heavens
Favored Class Bonus: 1/2 Oracles Curse
Starting Osirons: Create Water, Detect Magic, Read Magic, Stabilize
Starting Spells: Bless, Burning Hands, Cure Light Wounds, Prot. from Evil

Lvl 3: Awesome Display, Heighten Spell
Lvl 4: +1 Cha
Lvl 5: Spell Penetration
Lvl 7: Extra Revalarion (Moonlight Bridge), Cloak of Many Stars,
Lvl 8: +1 Cha
Lvl 9: Persistant Spell,
Lvl 11: Greater Spell Penetration, Moonlight Bridge,

Right?

I had considered Blackened but I kinda like the idea of a Deaf Illusionist. You do bring up a some good points though, and having some blasts would be neat. I had just considered taking a 1 lvl dip into a Crossblooded Pestilence/Undead Sorcerer to be able to effect some undead and vermin but with blackened I wouldn't need to. And now I have an image of a gnome wearing long flowing robes and people only catching glimpses of his disfigured hands. Something to think about.

With your suggestions in mind here is a Blackened version:

Race: Gnome (Eternal Hope replacing Hatred & Defensive Training)
Str: 8
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 19
Traits: Dangerously Curious, Reactionary
Feats: Spell Focus (Illusion)
Curse: Blackened
Revalation: Lure of the Heavens
Favored Class Bonus: 1/2 Oracles Curse
Starting Osirons: Create Water, Detect Magic, Read Magic, Stabilize
Starting Spells: Bless, Burning Hands, Cure Light Wounds, Prot. from Evil

Lvl 2: Color Spray, Lighy
Lvl 3: Awesome Display, Heighten Spell, Entropic Shield
Lvl 4: +1 Cha, Bull's Strength, Guidance
Lvl 5: Spell Penetration, Consecrate, Doom
Lvl 6: Spark, ???
Lvl 7: ???, Cloak of Many Stars, ???
Lvl 8: +1 Cha, ???
Lvl 9: Persistant Spell, ???
Lvl 10: ???
Lvl 11: ???, Moonlight Bridge, ???

I'm not sure what to throw in or if I should change the order. Or what my higher lvl spells should be. Any suggestions?

Aww, I read that wrong then. So your sayning that I should switch Awesome Display and Coat of Many Stars even though I don't pick up Color Spray till 2nd?

As for dipping in Sorcerer to effect undead isn't something I had considered. I had planed on taking Threnodic Spell and it's prerequisite Spell Focus (Necro). Would the dip be worth it over the metamagic feat? And how big of dip would it be?

Hello all. I played some Society this weekend and had the pleasure of encountering a Heavens Oracle. Loved what she did and thought about making my own. So here is what I have so far:

Race: Gnome (Eternal Hope replacing Hatred & Defensive Training)
Str: 8
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 19
Traits: Dangerously Curious, Reactionary
Feats: Spell Focus (Illusion)
Curse: Deaf
Revalation: Coat of Many Stars
Favored Class Bonus: 1/2 Oracles Curse

Lvl 3: Heighten Spell
Lvl 4: Awesome Display, +1 Cha
Lvl 5: Spell Focus (Necromancy)
Lvl 7: Threnodic Spell, Lure of the Heavens
Lvl 8: +1 Cha
Lvl 9: Persistant Spell
Lvl 11: Piercing Spell, Moonlight Bridge

So how does this look? I've heard Aasimar good Heavens Oracles. Is that a better way to go?

Edit: What spells should I be picking up? (Haven't played a Devine Caster in a while)

Thanks everyone. I tried out the character with Driver's suggested a stat block but went with a big cat instead if the Roc. It turned out pretty well despite my piss pour rolls. Since he's level one I can still tweak him. I'm sure others are still interested in hearing people's opinion.

Yep, but I believe that archetype isn't allowed in PFS. Also see above for Spirit Guide.

Oh, is it just me or would a Roc count for Huntmaster feat since it is a bird?

Edit: here are the details in the Spirit Guide Archetype for ACs Driver: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions/animal -companion-archetypes/totem-guide-companion-archetype

Driver you still feeling Roc is the best AC?

I love the feel of Totem Guide, and it fits the character concept very well. My only concern is the loss of Evasion. I have seen that save many Rogues and ACs.

Oh, I'm also thinking that second Ability Score Increase should go into Con rather than Dex, since HP is so critical and Rocs have so little. Besides I hate odd numbered Con scores, they seem like wasted potential.

calagnar wrote:

The only way to change them out is to get a new animal companion.

And the Roc looks really good. Right up to the point where half PFSP scenarios are indoors.

He should be okay indoors. First, he flies so no problem with climbing ladders or going down ropes. Second, he can always squeeze. Third, narrow frame at tenth level. Forth, the barbarian is a wand user so reduce person & link spell is the answer if all else fails.

Actually Link Spell only works with spells you cast, rather than items you activate. I've heard several Society Judges point this out at various events. The barbarian will have to get a 2nd level wand of Reduce Animal instead of the cheaper wand of Reduce Person.

Thanks Glutton. Don't have a character who whose faction is Quadiran before. Though how well he'll do on the faction missions will be interesting since he has no Diplomacy. Plenty of Intimidate, but no Diplomacy. Then again I know a guy with a monk who seems to get by with no Diplomacy and a negative Charisma Mod as a Quidiran.

Thank you. I can now start fleshing out the character. Only played a little bit of Kingmaker before the game fell through. There are barbarian tribes there right?

Ah, I suppose then at 7 I will be releasing the first Roc and getting a new one? Maybe I'll just take the later feats first and keep the initial Roc. I like that idea better of raising a Roc from a hatching to an adult. That is long as it doesn't die from a random crit. Calagnar you wouldn't know where Roc's are located in Golarion, would you?

Hello everyone! I'm making myself a Mad Dog Barbarian with a Roc Animal Companion for Society. I'm trying to come up with a back story for him. Thing is I'm not sure what region he will be from since I don't know where Rocs can be found in Golarion. If someone knows this little bit of trivia I would love to hear it. Thanks in advance those who respond.

Awesome Driver! Though it might be better to switch the Ferocious Mount line with the new Ferocious Beast line. That way the Roc can rage when not used as a mount.

I didn't know that Eye for Talent and Animal Companion Feats could be switched at higher levels. Good to know.

Edit: Know I need to come up with a good back story for this character. Maybe a tribe of Barbarians who have the Roc as there totem. Not sure where Roc can be found in Golarion though.

@calagnar: Ah, I see we have different tastes then. One of my favorites settings in 3.5 was Eberron. They had tribes of barbarian halflings that rode various dinosaurs. I loved those crazy little buggers.

@Driver: I would love the help. It would be nice to have it by Friday since I'm going to attend a convention where there will be several Society events. But I have other characters to use and at least one that can do the low level stuff. So no real rush. The character would start at lvl 1 and be retired at 12.

As for societies restrictions, there's a whole page for what additional resources are allowed (http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources). But the gist is 20 pt buy, core races plus Aasimar, Tieflings, & Tengu, all classes other than those that require you to be evil (can't be Evil), all traits are available other than Campaign ones (Faction replaces them), and no Crafting feats (you have to buy all your gear). I think that covers it.

What about dinosaurs?

@Driver: Unfortunately Optimistic Gambler is not an option (no campaign traits in Society other than the Faction ones). And I don't think it's horrible, it may not be optimal but it is not as bad as say the vast majority of Rogue archetypes that give up Trapfinding.

@calagnar: That looks pretty good. Though I don't want to dump CHA due to Handle Animal being CHA based. I already have a Ranger with a wolf, so I'd like to try something else. Based on how I read it, the Mad Dog gets an animal Companion like a Druid so they have a lot more options than my Ranger did. Got any other ideas for a good Animal Companion?

@swish: You make some good points there Swish. Now I'm a little torn between buffing my Animal COmpanion with Eye of Talent or getting Furious Focus.

And can anyone tell me where the list of approved Animal Companions for Society is? I can't seem to find it.

Here's a link to the archetype: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/archetypes/paizo---b arbarian-archetypes/mad-dog-barbarian-archetype

Basically you give up most of your Rage powers, Delay your DR till 10th lvl and Delay Rage till 4th lvl to get an Animal Companion who makes an excellent flank buddy, gets the Improved Drag feat, an awesome ability that involves it dragging opponents to you and an ability that lets you take an attack of opp when the animal succeeds on several different combat maneuvers. If you use one of your few rage powers you can get your animal companion to rage with you. That's the archetype in a nutshell.

Hello all. I just got my hands on the Animal Archive this last Saturday and saw the Mad Dog archetype for Barbarians and thought, "This is what my next PFS character will be."

My problem is that I have never played a Barbarian before (I usually play casters) and am having trouble figuring out what I should do. I know I'm probably going to need to focus primarily on Strength and Constitution (and to a lesser extent Dexterity). I know I'll need at least 10 in Charisma if not higher since I'll need to use Handle Animal to guide Animal Companion. I'm thinking Human for the extra feat at first lvl and Power Attack and Cleave as my feats. I'm also unsure on what traits would be beneficial for a Barbarian. I'm not sure on what animal for my companion, though a T-Rex sounds pretty cool as one since at 7 you can ride it. So here is what I have so far:

Race: Human
STR 16 (+2 racial)
DEX 14
CON 14
INT 10
WIS 10
CHA 14

Feats: Power Attack, Cleave
Traits: ???
Animal Companion: ???

Any and all advise is welcome and thanks in advance to those who respond.

Is there away in society to add Dex to my natural attack's damage?