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I'm starting to wonder if conservatives are asking the courts to take up these cases so privately knowing or hoping that the courts side with the LGBT community while publicly complaining so that they can maintain their seats. For a while that's how they approached abortion, until the last 10 years or so. I have a feeling that's happening here too.
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I'm starting to wonder if conservatives are asking the courts to take up these cases so privately knowing or hoping that the courts side with the LGBT community while publicly complaining so that they can maintain their seats. For a while that's how they approached abortion, until the last 10 years or so. I have a feeling that's happening here too.
Not all the courts side with the LGBT community. Texas Attorney AG Ken Paxton has had success so far in blocking or impeding trans rights.
Other judges have similarly sided with those who oppose trans rights.
And the Supreme Court itself has previously blocked a court order protecting Gavin Grimm in the case they're about to take up.
I think it's completely up in the air how the Supreme Court is going to rule on the Grimm case, and the outcome of the presidential election may have a big impact.
And I think conservatives will continue to try and block, prevent, or chip away at LGBT rights wherever they can, much as they've approached abortion rights. Ken Paxton is now asking the Texas State Supreme Court to limit same-sex marriage rights, for example.
My brain is wrapping around a question but I can't seem to figure out how to parse it right. If this is offensive, please accept my apologies.
Is there a scale for gender akin to the Kinsey scale for sexuality? What does it encompass?
My brain is wrapping around a question but I can't seem to figure out how to parse it right. If this is offensive, please accept my apologies.Is there a scale for gender akin to the Kinsey scale for sexuality? What does it encompass?
Do you mean like the Benjamin scale (which I think was tossed out awhile ago)?
Not sure.
I think there was also the Blanchard's transsexualism Typography but that is rife with controversy and not exactly what many would adhere to or even condone (with many condemning it).
I don't know of any specific scale condoned and used by LGBT overall...but I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist.
I should add, even the Kinsey scale is only one of many different scales, and there is some controversy regarding it as well in modern times.
For a more comprehensive look at what is used today you should read
Handbook of sexuality related measures
Or the older version
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My brain is wrapping around a question but I can't seem to figure out how to parse it right. If this is offensive, please accept my apologies.Is there a scale for gender akin to the Kinsey scale for sexuality? What does it encompass?
Do you mean like the Benjamin scale (which I think was tossed out awhile ago)?
Not sure.
I think there was also the Blanchard's transsexualism Typography but that is rife with controversy and not exactly what many would adhere to or even condone (with many condemning it).
Both benjamin's and Blanchard's work no the subject is HEAVILY biased, sexist, and homophobic, and isn't just considered "outdated" by the modern community, but actively transphobic and homophobic.
There is no modern scale akin to the Kinsey scale but for gender, mostly because most people don't really look at "men and "women" as opposite sides of a binary scale, just the most common tendencies in a very large pool.
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I thought I would share an anecdote about my upcoming wedding.
Some of my mother's siblings are staunch Catholics. One uncle had already told my mother he did not plan to attend. So recently his youngest daughter (my cousin) called my mom and told her that my uncle doesn't speak for her and her mother (my uncle's wife) and they hoped they were still invited even without him. After that, they told my uncle of their plans. Naturally, he decided it was time to talk to his priest. Apparently, the priest told him, "I see. Well, as it happens, I have a gay brother. And I went to his wedding last year."
So now the whole family is coming. I'd like to find that priest and shake his hand.
This is related to CH's example above, but not exactly germaine to the thread, so I'm going to spoiler-tag it.
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Hi folks! I have a player interested in portraying a gender neutral PC. This is an experience I know very little about, so I'm worried about "doing it right," to be a little reductive. I thought people here might be able to offer insight - if you have time and interest, I'd appreciate your contributions to this thread.
Thanks! (and thanks to Paizo and the Paizo community for all their work encouraging inclusive gaming experiences!)
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If I'm being honest, Andrew, I wish you'd just asked us here, instead of making a new thread. For the most part, the bigots don't show up here. Sadly, the Advice forum thread drew a few.
(By the way, I don't recommend anyone from this thread follow the link, unless you're ready to see some ugliness.)
Feel free to ask again here once that thread has been locked, though. And I wish you the best of luck getting assistance. ^_^
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Honestly... I pretty much avoid the "Rules" and "Advice" forums altogether. They're by far and away the nastiest, most pedantic, and least friendly boards on the Paizo forums.
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Neat! I didn't know this thread existed. I don't have any new topics to bring up, I just wanted to say hello!
Hello!
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I really want to go out to a party this weekend that I was invited to in femme clothing, but I'm also a little bit afraid of being on the streets at night like that. Does anyone have any advice?
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It always seemed to me confusion is more or less the normal state of humanity.
[tangent] It's sometimes the people who are most confident with themselves that I feel are maybe just a little *too* comfortable, and resistant to any sort of positive change or growth.
Maybe some confusion is necessary. [/tangent]
Hello!
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I really want to go out to a party this weekend that I was invited to in femme clothing, but I'm also a little bit afraid of being on the streets at night like that. Does anyone have any advice?
Just common sense that would apply to anyone traveling at night.
Stick to safe areas if you are taking public transport, or drive a car, or travel with others to the party either in public transport or a vehicle.
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Hello!
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I really want to go out to a party this weekend that I was invited to in femme clothing, but I'm also a little bit afraid of being on the streets at night like that. Does anyone have any advice?
Big coats. It's cold, after all, and who doesn't secretly long to do the whole "take off the coat and BAM" thing.
Also, I'm new to the thread and suppose I should say hi? Robin here--Venture Agent for PFS in Olympia, Washington. Nonbinary (neutrois) trans intersex queer (gray-ace, poliro) pinko commie educator.
Greetings to the new arrivals, don't mind the weird bird-guy trying to parse things in the corner.
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Decided against going to the party, but hung out with a group of people from my college's LGBTQ alliance and cooked lots of food.
I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
189 -- Grats!
I'm not sure if she's in any tales or not, but Shardra Getl's backstory is worth looking at, if nothing else?
As far as G? Mercedes Lackey has the Valdemar books, but I can't vouch for them beyond the first couple, and it's been a few years since I've read them?
Decided against going to the party, but hung out with a group of people from my college's LGBTQ alliance and cooked lots of food.
I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
there was something that ch mentioned. I'll ask him about it next time I see him.
Thank you all!
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I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
I know that life! One of my roommates was on board for a while, but that stopped suddenly. I'm going to talk to him again about it myself, as I'm really working on using my pronouns even at events at my FLGSs. I hope that you have luck with that!
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Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
When in doubt, ask Goodreads! From that list, I enjoyed Malinda Lo's books, and several friends recommend Ginn Hale and Astrid Amara.
In other news, we saw The Handmaiden this weekend—it was gorgeous but not for the faint-hearted.
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Decided against going to the party, but hung out with a group of people from my college's LGBTQ alliance and cooked lots of food.
I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
It's not purely fantasy, but Ursula LeGuin's Left Hand of Darkness is a classic and deals a lot with gender.
Otherwise, definitely second the Goodreads option. Here's a list they have of fantasy books with gay protagonists, at least--not sure if they break it down further from there. There's also a reading group for LGBT fantasy as well, available here.
If I'm being honest, Andrew, I wish you'd just asked us here, instead of making a new thread. For the most part, the bigots don't show up here. Sadly, the Advice forum thread drew a few.
(By the way, I don't recommend anyone from this thread follow the link, unless you're ready to see some ugliness.)
Feel free to ask again here once that thread has been locked, though. And I wish you the best of luck getting assistance. ^_^
Sorry, just saw this! I made the Advice thread because my initial concern was cluttering up this thread; I hadn't posted in it before, and I didn't want to "invade" it or stomp my cishet feet around other folks' space. From a broader forums harmony standpoint, that backfired pretty hard :(
Also, seconding Left Hand of Darkness, one of my favorites! It's interesting to see where we're at now versus the social context in which it was written.
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Decided against going to the party, but hung out with a group of people from my college's LGBTQ alliance and cooked lots of food.
I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
Mercedes Lackey's stuff was good at the time, but it's a little dated now.
The Swordspoint trilogy by Ellen Kushner is gloriously gay. Django Wexler's Thousand Names series has a lesbian protagonist. N.K. Jemisin's stuff tends to have a lot of characters that are queer. There's a surprising amount of lesbian YA, like Malinda Lo's Huntress. The Kushiel series by Jacqueline Carey features a bi protagonist (and is beautiful), but be forewarned that the main character is a sex worker (and spy), who's submissive/masochist, so it's not to everyone's tastes. Amanda Downum's The Bone Palace features a trans protagonist.
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there was something that ch mentioned. I'll ask him about it next time I see him.Decided against going to the party, but hung out with a group of people from my college's LGBTQ alliance and cooked lots of food.
I've been quite happy with my friends, lately. It's gotten to the point where my friends will correct other people on my pronouns- makes it a lot easier for me, since I get really anxious to correct other people. Making progress :D
Does anyone know any fantasy literature with LGBTQ protags? I've been looking for some!
My picks tend to involve gay or bi male protagonists.
I was probably mentioning the Nightrunner series by Lynn Flewelling. Those guys are adorable. I've only got a couple books left to read and that makes me sad. I am spacing them out.
Richard K. Morgan's A Land Fit for Heroes series is well done, but very gritty.
Also, seconding the Last Herald Mage series by Lackey, but I agree it would probably show its age at this point.
Time for me to read like 10 books :)
In other news, we saw The Handmaiden this weekend—it was gorgeous but not for the faint-hearted.
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I hadn't heard of it, but then I very rarely get out to watch any films. If you don't mind elaborating on your comments for the benefit of fussy strangers...
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This may not seem like a big deal to a lot of people, but it is a huge step for me. My 4-year-old niece (ok, my best friend's daughter, but good enough) really wanted to paint my nails. They are very sparkly and 9 different colors. She wants me to keep it on for a while so I went to work with my nails done. I know that it's for her, but it's also for me. Everyone is enjoying it. Once I take it off, I'll probably start doing them my way for a bit.
I also finally spent time with a friend as Cindy at her place watching movies. I never asked her to call me Cindy. She just did it automatically. She was posting on Facebook about how much fun she had with a little girl's night. She doesn't get to get out much anymore because her health is failing (she has ALS and will probably not be here this time next year). She's talking about inviting some more friends over and having a slightly bigger group, maybe 4 or 5 people.
This is a very big step for me. I still don't think I can go out, but I do think that I can spend time with people indoors.
In other news, we saw The Handmaiden this weekend—it was gorgeous but not for the faint-hearted.
** spoiler omitted **I hadn't heard of it, but then I very rarely get out to watch any films. If you don't mind elaborating on your comments for the benefit of fussy strangers...
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Thank you kindly! I've always found folks' recommendations in this thread helpful and interesting.
*Adds title to list of things to check out at some point, examining the ever more crowded page with pleasing despair.*
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This may not seem like a big deal to a lot of people, but it is a huge step for me. My 4-year-old niece (ok, my best friend's daughter, but good enough) really wanted to paint my nails. They are very sparkly and 9 different colors. She wants me to keep it on for a while so I went to work with my nails done. I know that it's for her, but it's also for me. Everyone is enjoying it. Once I take it off, I'll probably start doing them my way for a bit.
I also finally spent time with a friend as Cindy at her place watching movies. I never asked her to call me Cindy. She just did it automatically. She was posting on Facebook about how much fun she had with a little girl's night. She doesn't get to get out much anymore because her health is failing (she has ALS and will probably not be here this time next year). She's talking about inviting some more friends over and having a slightly bigger group, maybe 4 or 5 people.
This is a very big step for me. I still don't think I can go out, but I do think that I can spend time with people indoors.
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If anyone has been watching the election coverage in the U.S. and needs an internet hug (or two) right now, I'm happy to do so. I'm honestly scared crapless right now about all our futures. I hope we can all manage to weather this oncoming uncertainty, fear, and hardships.
If anyone has been watching the election coverage in the U.S. and needs an internet hug (or two) right now, I'm happy to do so. I'm honestly scared crapless right now about all our futures. I hope we can all manage to weather this oncoming uncertainty, fear, and hardships.
Just remember that the Great White North will always be around to accept you.
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If anyone has been watching the election coverage in the U.S. and needs an internet hug (or two) right now, I'm happy to do so. I'm honestly scared crapless right now about all our futures. I hope we can all manage to weather this oncoming uncertainty, fear, and hardships.Just remember that the Great White North will always be around to accept you.
Not really. Getting into Canada legally is tough and a long journey for the best of folk; being barely employed here with two marginal associates degrees, with no savings and ignored medical issues will make it much harder.
I shouldn't have to leave. This is the only home I've known. And I can't take all my vulnerable friends and family with me.
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Well.
F*$&.
I really want to go to Canada. Badly.
But Canada without amby is just... A cold land(yay!) with no Slaad(boo!). I don't think I can do it.
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I am no longer proud to have served my country. I fought for the right for everyone to be treated equally under the law. I believed that since I was a child. I wanted to serve since I was about 3 and I got my chance when I turned 17 in 1989. I accepted that my country made a lot of mistakes, but learned from them and we fixed them. Tonight I realize that I am wrong. I don't know how to deal with more than half of the country not wanting me to exist. I never was part of an in crowd. I just wanted to be accepted. Tonight I was told that it is not in the cards. I am going to put away my identity and just be Bob.
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Edit: This wasn't a reply to you Cindy/Bob. It was just something I thought needed to be said tonight after the horrible results of this enervating, maddening election.
I know things look bleak and frighteningly uncertain (and I know my last two comments didn't help), but if anyone reading this is feeling really alone, deeply scared, and hopeless... please, please, please don't make a horrible mistake and take your life.
Please, no.
I've seen up close what suicide does to a family, to friends. I know it may seem totally dark and you just want the pain to end, but please don't do it. Please. You are valuable and needed in this world. You make peoples' lives better by participating in it. Believe it or not, your fight also gives others hope.
Please don't say goodbye.
Before you attempt it, please call someone. The Trevor Project is available 24/7 and I'm certain you wouldn't be the only one contacting them tonight or in the coming days. You can call them at 1-866-488-7386, or text them/chat with them tomorrow.
You can also call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 24/7 at 1-800-273-8255, or chat with them right now.
Please be safe. Your loved ones and friends need you. This community needs you. I need you.
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I am no longer proud to have served my country. I fought for the right for everyone to be treated equally under the law. I believed that since I was a child. I wanted to serve since I was about 3 and I got my chance when I turned 17 in 1989. I accepted that my country made a lot of mistakes, but learned from them and we fixed them. Tonight I realize that I am wrong. I don't know how to deal with more than half of the country not wanting me to exist. I never was part of an in crowd. I just wanted to be accepted. Tonight I was told that it is not in the cards. I am going to put away my identity and just be Bob.
Please don't. You have to be true to yourself. Trust me from experience, staying bricked up in a closet just rots your soul.
“Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” -- Martin Luther King Jr.
Things will get better. I hope we all can hold out long enough to see it.
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No one can Kal. But if playing 25+ years of table top fantasy gaming has taught me anything...it's that evil might take the stage, but it never steals the show.
Things will get better. I hope we all can hold out long enough to see it.I can't guarantee that I will.
I know. I can't guarantee I'll live to see it either. :/
I still believe we are all stronger together. And while I'm disappointed by half the country tonight, the other half still gives me hope that they too want to see a better tomorrow.
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No one can Kal. But if playing 25+ years of table top fantasy gaming has taught me anything...it's that evil might take the stage, but it never steals the show.
Get ready for a pure-red conservative Supreme Court for at least that long. Between that and a pure red legislature, our rights are gone for the rest of my life.
I don't know what to do. I'm still reeling, just trying to puzzle out how I can get through each day now while trying not to constantly dread the axe hanging there.