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Just a Mort wrote:
My memory of Baldur's gate may be rather faded - but I know one flaw about computer RPGs(Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights) is that generally when you gain alignment in good, you gain it in law as well. For some reason those two seem to go together, likewise chaos and evil.

"Give a man a fish, and he can eat for a day. Give him a sword, and he can chow down on the meaty marrow of evil!"

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, watch it!

Nekkid seems right for that post!

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I didn't do it! It was Woran!

*points paw at Woran*


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Yuugasa wrote:
So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?

mod the hell out of it. Gibberlings is the best place to go. Make sure you BRING (censored) BACK, I NEVER liked the storyline where you got with (censored) that seemed INCREDIBLY gross considering the previous game and what happened in the beginning of the first one, and I also thought that the unmodded relationship with (censored) was a very big "remember kids, sex is bad!" trope,and the mod made it a bit more realistic.


Freehold DM wrote:
Yuugasa wrote:
So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?
mod the hell out of it. Gibberlings is the best place to go. Make sure you BRING (censored) BACK, I NEVER liked the storyline where you got with (censored) that seemed INCREDIBLY gross considering the previous game and what happened in the beginning of the first one, and I also thought that the unmodded relationship with (censored) was a very big "remember kids, sex is bad!" trope,and the mod made it a bit more realistic.

Ok, you wouldn't happen to know which mods are the best and which work with each other would you?

Scarab Sages

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I never really played baldur's gate 2. Did play one a looooooooot.
GO for the eyes Boo!


Yuugasa wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Yuugasa wrote:
So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?
mod the hell out of it. Gibberlings is the best place to go. Make sure you BRING (censored) BACK, I NEVER liked the storyline where you got with (censored) that seemed INCREDIBLY gross considering the previous game and what happened in the beginning of the first one, and I also thought that the unmodded relationship with (censored) was a very big "remember kids, sex is bad!" trope,and the mod made it a bit more realistic.
Ok, you wouldn't happen to know which mods are the best and which work with each other would you?

the site lists which mods are stable and which aren't and which play best with each other.


Freehold DM wrote:
Yuugasa wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Yuugasa wrote:
So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?
mod the hell out of it. Gibberlings is the best place to go. Make sure you BRING (censored) BACK, I NEVER liked the storyline where you got with (censored) that seemed INCREDIBLY gross considering the previous game and what happened in the beginning of the first one, and I also thought that the unmodded relationship with (censored) was a very big "remember kids, sex is bad!" trope,and the mod made it a bit more realistic.
Ok, you wouldn't happen to know which mods are the best and which work with each other would you?
the site lists which mods are stable and which aren't and which play best with each other.

Oh I see, thank you =)

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Finished Strange Aeons Book 2 prep.

Weird quirk of mine - maybe there wasn't much chocolate liquor in the bottle - but I didn't feel much today after drinking it all - its like I have the ability to ignore the effects of alcohol on my system if I'm doing something that needs concentration(like map prep).


Freehold DM wrote:
Yuugasa wrote:
So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?
mod the hell out of it. Gibberlings is the best place to go. Make sure you BRING (censored) BACK, I NEVER liked the storyline where you got with (censored) that seemed INCREDIBLY gross considering the previous game and what happened in the beginning of the first one, and I also thought that the unmodded relationship with (censored) was a very big "remember kids, sex is bad!" trope,and the mod made it a bit more realistic.

When I play through the game and find out your censored references I shall chat with you about it!

Seeing how it's about in game relationships I'll likely agree though, judging from later Bioware RPGs even the sex positive ones are a little weird, especially with turning romantic relationships into just a long seduction that ends with making love then is pretty much over lol.


The philosophical underpinnings of fictional relationships is a favorite topic to me, though in video games they are usually either woefully incomplete or kinda lame.

That's ok though, not every game can be ff10.


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I am rapidly learning that Steam is a guarantee of disappointment for me:

  • Left 4 Dead: Paid $19.99. Played 2 hours. Just not my cup of tea. I like neither FPSes or zombie apocalypse games, but we were trying to find a new multiplayer game.
  • Stardew Valley: Paid $14.99. Played 3 hours. OK. I'll cut Stardew Valley some slack: It is exactly the kind of game I should love playing. The problem is, Shiro and GothBard had put in over 100 hours each before I started playing with them, so my entire experience was, "C'mon! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Wait, what? I'm still trying to figure out how to grow a plant here!"
    "You can do that later! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Oh, I haven't unlocked it yet, apparently."
    "Well, why not?!?!?"
    There was an eternal expectation that I would know what the heck I was doing, I got frustrated, and I stopped playing. Not Stardew Valley's fault, but I have to list it because I'm listing my ENTIRE Steam library here.
  • Far Cry 5: Paid $89.99. Played 18 hours. In spite of being a FPS, I really tried to enjoy this game, and had fun... except the main storyline, "Oh, time to kidnap you, brainwash you, and release you back to the wild," SO turned me off that I couldn't stomach it. Watching GothBard and Shiro play through the execrable ending, I'm glad I quit when I did.
    Seriously, Ubisoft? You haven't read anything about how much players love losing player agency?
  • Devil May Cry 5: Paid $70.42. Played 63 minutes. Asked for a refund.
    So, how is it that Devil May Cry 5 is listed as one of the top-rated multiplayer games on Steam and elsewhere, yet in the words of one reviewer, "Devil May Cry 5 has a multiplayer mode that lets players make guest appearances in each other's games...the company said Devil May Cry 5 is "primarily" a single-player experience, but wanted to have the three protagonists run into each other and work together from time to time."
    So, no, it is NOT a multiplayer game in any sense of the word. GothBard, Shiro, and I played for an hour while we were online together and never once had the chance to interact. Even worse, the game simply makes the assumption that you are an octopus who owns a Steam controller. Move #3 or #4 in the game was, "Hit this key on the keyboard, then do this joystick move, then hit this other key on the keyboard."
    Any game where THAT is one of the most basic moves is NOT a game for me.
    And yeah, the overwhelming, insufferable, "We're SO cool you have to love us" of ALL the characters was, well, insufferable. In under an hour of play, I wanted the bad guys to win and all the protagonists to die because I hated them so much.
    Not so great.
    So my first refund request ever from Steam. Usually if I buy a game and I hate it, I figure it's my own fault for not researching it. But when multiple sites say, "This is a great multiplayer game for up to 3 players" and it really ISN'T, I feel justified in demanding a refund.
  • Far Cry 3: Never played, and not in my purchase history. I don't even know why I have it. Maybe it was part of the Far Cry 5 package I purchased?

  • And that's what's truly striking to me: Other games I've purchased from other vendors, from Diablo III from Blizzard to Rift from Trion to Final Fantasy XIV from Square Enix I've played for dozens of hours.
    Not a single game I've ever bought on Steam has even made the 24-hour mark.

    Steam and I apparently just don't get along.


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    I still think about Wakka's story sometimes, it did a good job of showing how there can be good hearted racists when it is simply born of ignorance,that scene where the party is on a boat and Wakka's talking s$!* about Al Bhed while Rikku and Yuna sit quietly nearby felt super realistic and his growth over the game was cool.

    His loss of faith too, while not the focus of the game, really made me feel the sting of loss for him and made me realize that even in the real world the loss of faith can be one of the most devastating feelings.


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    Best. Starfinder. Trap. Ever!

    We have a glitter bomb.

    In Dawn of Flames.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    I am rapidly learning that Steam is a guarantee of disappointment for me:

  • Left 4 Dead: Paid $19.99. Played 2 hours. Just not my cup of tea. I like neither FPSes or zombie apocalypse games, but we were trying to find a new multiplayer game.
  • Stardew Valley: Paid $14.99. Played 3 hours. OK. I'll cut Stardew Valley some slack: It is exactly the kind of game I should love playing. The problem is, Shiro and GothBard had put in over 100 hours each before I started playing with them, so my entire experience was, "C'mon! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Wait, what? I'm still trying to figure out how to grow a plant here!"
    "You can do that later! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Oh, I haven't unlocked it yet, apparently."
    "Well, why not?!?!?"
    There was an eternal expectation that I would know what the heck I was doing, I got frustrated, and I stopped playing. Not Stardew Valley's fault, but I have to list it because I'm listing my ENTIRE Steam library here.
  • Far Cry 5: Paid $89.99. Played 18 hours. In spite of being a FPS, I really tried to enjoy this game, and had fun... except the main storyline, "Oh, time to kidnap you, brainwash you, and release you back to the wild," SO turned me off that I couldn't stomach it. Watching GothBard and Shiro play through the execrable ending, I'm glad I quit when I did.
    Seriously, Ubisoft? You haven't read anything about how much players love losing player agency?
  • Devil May Cry 5: Paid $70.42. Played 63 minutes. Asked for a refund.
    So, how is it that Devil May Cry 5 is listed as one of the top-rated multiplayer games on Steam and elsewhere, yet in the words of one reviewer, "Devil May Cry 5 has a multiplayer mode that lets players make guest appearances in each other's games...the company said Devil May Cry 5 is "primarily" a single-player experience, but wanted to have the three protagonists run into each other and work together from time to time."
    So, no, it is NOT a multiplayer game in any sense of the word....
  • Yeah the only FPS that I ever really liked was the original F.E.A.R.

    Regarding Devil May Cry I actually find the main characters self involvement endearing because they are just so stupid. Apparently I find it funny when dumbasses think they are awesome, lol.


    Dante is awesome!; I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with light! =p

    Scarab Sages

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    If you liked diablo and are looking for a new mulitplayer, I can highly recomend Torchlight.


    I'm pretty bored with our games.


    Not that it matters much, I'll be working again in a couple of weeks.


    NobodysHome wrote:

    I am rapidly learning that Steam is a guarantee of disappointment for me:

  • Left 4 Dead: Paid $19.99. Played 2 hours. Just not my cup of tea.
  • And they say love of math doesn't rot the mind...


    Yuugasa wrote:

    I still think about Wakka's story sometimes, it did a good job of showing how there can be good hearted racists when it is simply born of ignorance,that scene where the party is on a boat and Wakka's talking s!$* about Al Bhed while Rikku and Yuna sit quietly nearby felt super realistic and his growth over the game was cool.

    His loss of faith too, while not the focus of the game, really made me feel the sting of loss for him and made me realize that even in the real world the loss of faith can be one of the most devastating feelings.

    Wakka doesn't deserve lulu in the slightest.


    Dawn of Flames is quickly becoming my favorite Starfinder Adventure Path.


    captain yesterday wrote:
    I'm pretty bored with our games.

    What kind of games do you like?


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    Yuugasa wrote:

    I still think about Wakka's story sometimes, it did a good job of showing how there can be good hearted racists when it is simply born of ignorance,that scene where the party is on a boat and Wakka's talking s!$* about Al Bhed while Rikku and Yuna sit quietly nearby felt super realistic and his growth over the game was cool.

    His loss of faith too, while not the focus of the game, really made me feel the sting of loss for him and made me realize that even in the real world the loss of faith can be one of the most devastating feelings.

    Wakka doesn't deserve lulu in the slightest.

    I dunno I kinda think Lulu is a hard to deal with person as well. She basically criticizes Wakka nonstop and that's when she isn't being cold.

    Edit: Basically the only person she supports is Yuna, other than that she tends to be pretty condescending.

    Edit 2: Though yes, I realize she wears a fetish outfit and her chest is so big after battle she leans forward like her back is killing her =p


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    I am rapidly learning that Steam is a guarantee of disappointment for me:

    ...
    Steam and I apparently just don't get along.

    Yeah, I dunno what to tell you, other than you're clearly buying games in genres/styles you don't enjoy.

    Looking at my own Steam list, I have:

    Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition - 192 Hours (and that's just since the beginning of the year; if I were to add in the years upon years I played NWN basic...).

    Audiosurf - 141 hours. (Plus 2 more hours in Audiosurf 2.)

    Final Fantasy 6 - 96 hours.

    Axiom Verge - 71 hours.

    Sam and Max - 47.5 hours across all three seasons of six games apiece.

    Psychonauts - 22 hours.

    Temtem (Alpha) - 21 hours.

    20XX - 37 hours.

    Undertale - 13 hours.

    Beat Hazard - 10 hours.

    Ys: Oath in Felghana - 9 hours.

    Castle Crashers - 9 hours.

    Battleblock Theatre - 9 hours.

    VVVVVV - 6 hours.

    Shovel Knight - 3 hours.

    Bastion - 3 hours.

    Rosenkreuzstilette - 2 hours.

    Yooka-Laylee - 2 hours.

    Almost all 2D platformers, JRPGs, Metroidvanias, Megamanalikes, or SHMUPs. AKA all the genres I most strongly identify with and enjoy. So I've been pretty happy with most of my purchases or gifts.


    Yuugasa wrote:
    captain yesterday wrote:
    I'm pretty bored with our games.
    What kind of games do you like?

    Video games.


    Red Dead Redemption 2 is pretty boring and I've murdered too many sheep as it is.

    There's only so many crashes in GTA 5, I can't be expected to go on missions can I.

    Fallout 4 plateaus pretty quickly.

    Same with Skyrim.

    Mass Effect Andromeda is, well, Mass Effect Andromeda.

    Star Wars Battlefront 2 is Mass Effect Andromeda with fun parts added (anything involving a Jedi Rampage, good or evil, and space ship combat).


    NobodysHome wrote:

    I am rapidly learning that Steam is a guarantee of disappointment for me:

  • Left 4 Dead: Paid $19.99. Played 2 hours. Just not my cup of tea. I like neither FPSes or zombie apocalypse games, but we were trying to find a new multiplayer game.
  • Stardew Valley: Paid $14.99. Played 3 hours. OK. I'll cut Stardew Valley some slack: It is exactly the kind of game I should love playing. The problem is, Shiro and GothBard had put in over 100 hours each before I started playing with them, so my entire experience was, "C'mon! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Wait, what? I'm still trying to figure out how to grow a plant here!"
    "You can do that later! Let's go do xxx!"
    "Oh, I haven't unlocked it yet, apparently."
    "Well, why not?!?!?"
    There was an eternal expectation that I would know what the heck I was doing, I got frustrated, and I stopped playing. Not Stardew Valley's fault, but I have to list it because I'm listing my ENTIRE Steam library here.
  • Far Cry 5: Paid $89.99. Played 18 hours. In spite of being a FPS, I really tried to enjoy this game, and had fun... except the main storyline, "Oh, time to kidnap you, brainwash you, and release you back to the wild," SO turned me off that I couldn't stomach it. Watching GothBard and Shiro play through the execrable ending, I'm glad I quit when I did.
    Seriously, Ubisoft? You haven't read anything about how much players love losing player agency?
  • Devil May Cry 5: Paid $70.42. Played 63 minutes. Asked for a refund.
    So, how is it that Devil May Cry 5 is listed as one of the top-rated multiplayer games on Steam and elsewhere, yet in the words of one reviewer, "Devil May Cry 5 has a multiplayer mode that lets players make guest appearances in each other's games...the company said Devil May Cry 5 is "primarily" a single-player experience, but wanted to have the three protagonists run into each other and work together from time to time."
    So, no, it is NOT a multiplayer game in any sense of the word....
  • I don't remember if I asked before how did GothBard and Shiro enjoyed Far Cry 3, 4, and 5 - both when it comes to gameplay and to the storylines?

    Also, do they have Far Cry New Dawn already?


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    Orthos is currently adding more NVN hours to his list... :P


    Huh, I have Shadow Of Mordor? Maybe I should play it?


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    Yuugasa wrote:
    So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?

    Spellcasters are monstrous at higher levels; cleric/fighters are especially good, as they can wander around in full plate, bash people pretty effectively, and heal like mad.

    You *will* need a thief. More than one, just for safety's sake, if you like; a thief and a bard is a nice combo, too.

    Some spells you will definitely need:

    Resist Fear
    Chaotic Commands
    Negative Plane Protection (plenty of those...)
    Death Ward
    Slow Poison
    Anything (else) that protects against charm/domination.

    Missile weapons can really give an (unprotected) mage a hard time, especially if they're poisoned.

    Poisoned weapons are nasty overall. This can work against you, of course, but also in your favour.

    Cernd is a nob-end.

    Scarab Sages

    I have 167 hours in borderlands. 181 hours in Borderlands 2 and 85 hours in borderlands: The pre-sequel.
    182 hours in skyrim.

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    Limeylongears wrote:
    Yuugasa wrote:
    So worked on it for like 6 hours but got Baldur's Gate 2 to work, I shouldn't leave such a fan favorite unplayed. Any advice for someone just beginning the game for the first time?

    Spellcasters are monstrous at higher levels; cleric/fighters are especially good, as they can wander around in full plate, bash people pretty effectively, and heal like mad.

    You *will* need a thief. More than one, just for safety's sake, if you like; a thief and a bard is a nice combo, too.

    Some spells you will definitely need:

    Resist Fear
    Chaotic Commands
    Negative Plane Protection (plenty of those...)
    Death Ward
    Slow Poison
    Anything (else) that protects against charm/domination.

    Missile weapons can really give an (unprotected) mage a hard time, especially if they're poisoned.

    Poisoned weapons are nasty overall. This can work against you, of course, but also in your favour.

    Cernd is a nob-end.

    But the NPC thief they provide is tons of fun! The front liners other then Minsc are either a pain in the @rse or unoptimized as heck.

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    Baldur's Gate 2 Spoilers:

    I went with Aerie, Jan(loved his cloud cookcoolander deamnor), Minsc, Imoen and myself. Imoen needs to be in your party in the later part of the game due to story, but I don't find her very optimized.

    Also Jahiera as well yes.

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    No time to be a couch potato. I'm a busy kitty! I haven't prepped Ironfang Invasion Book 5 yet!


    Drejk wrote:
    Orthos is currently adding more NVN hours to his list... :P

    Yep. I was starting my Waking Rune plotline today! Beware the Goblin Guild!


    Drejk wrote:

    I don't remember if I asked before how did GothBard and Shiro enjoyed Far Cry 3, 4, and 5 - both when it comes to gameplay and to the storylines?

    Also, do they have Far Cry New Dawn already?

    GothBard started on 5 and LOVED it, but HATED the stupid story and horrible ending. But she loved the gameplay enough to forgive it.

    And yes, she and Shiro already did New Dawn twice on regular and are working their way through it on its hardest setting. But they wanted me to play with them (hence the abortive attempt at Devil May Cry 5), so amusingly enough right now we're playing our way through Diablo III (which neither GothBard nor I ever finished).


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    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.


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    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.

    Falling asleep is easy. Just think about all the clowns hiding in your closet that will come out and eat you while you sleep. The lure of the sweet embrace of death will have you dozing happily in moments.


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    My wife has hung all her bras up in the bathroom. I think it's some kind of booby trap.


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    My friend and I went to an NBA game dressed in bright yellow chicken suits, but got thrown out almost immediately. When we asked why, the security guard said "Two flagrant fowls is an automatic ejection."


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    I went to the doctor to ask about a vasectomy. The price he quoted was too high, so I made a counter offer that he felt was too low. We went back and forth for a bit, and in the end decided to split the deferens.


    I'm Hiding In My Closet wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.
    Falling asleep is easy. Just think about all the clowns hiding in your closet that will come out and eat you while you sleep. The lure of the sweet embrace of death will have you dozing happily in moments.

    Uh sure that sounds like it could work...

    >.>

    <.<


    Completly horrified Vidmaster7 wrote:
    I'm Hiding In My Closet wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.
    Falling asleep is easy. Just think about all the clowns hiding in your closet that will come out and eat you while you sleep. The lure of the sweet embrace of death will have you dozing happily in moments.

    Uh sure that sounds like it could work...

    >.>

    <.<

    Always happy to help.


    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    My friend and I went to an NBA game dressed in bright yellow chicken suits, but got thrown out almost immediately. When we asked why, the security guard said "Two flagrant fowls is an automatic ejection."

    I feel this is some sort of sports related pun. I approve of the pun part anyways..


    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    Completly horrified Vidmaster7 wrote:
    I'm Hiding In My Closet wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.
    Falling asleep is easy. Just think about all the clowns hiding in your closet that will come out and eat you while you sleep. The lure of the sweet embrace of death will have you dozing happily in moments.

    Uh sure that sounds like it could work...

    >.>

    <.<

    Always happy to help.

    Oh that was your parody alias. I thought it was actually IHIYC at first.

    Clowns don't actually bother me at all. Not even that Stephen King clown.


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    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    Completly horrified Vidmaster7 wrote:
    I'm Hiding In My Closet wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    Slept so long today. I'll never be able to get to sleep tomorrow.
    Falling asleep is easy. Just think about all the clowns hiding in your closet that will come out and eat you while you sleep. The lure of the sweet embrace of death will have you dozing happily in moments.

    Uh sure that sounds like it could work...

    >.>

    <.<

    Always happy to help.

    Oh that was your parody alias. I thought it was actually IHIYC at first.

    Clowns don't actually bother me at all. Not even that Stephen King clown.

    They might not have bothered you in the past, but they will soon. All those bright white faces with giant grease paint smiles laughing as they approach you, honking their horns. Enormous shoes flapping on the floor like duck feet. The cold, soulless eyes promising that, despite the fact they are laughing on the outside, they desire nothing more than to strangle you with cotton candy ropes and then feast upon your tender vittles. Your skin destined to be dyed with bright, alluring colors and sewn into their patchwork clothing. Your hair and beard turned into big poofy wigs. Your intestines inflated and twisted into animal shapes like weird splotchy balloons.

    Still okay?


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    Yelp still good. Their was a thing during a Halloween awhile back that had clowns going out and trying to scare people and some of them trying to hurt people. Apparently people dressed as batman started beating them up and that stopped. (This is a true story I promise google it.)


    I remember the thing with people dressed as scary clowns showing up on security cams and such. Don't remember hearing about them actually attacking people or that Batmen started beating them up.


    Yeah I know their was a guy in the UK he looked spot on like batman too.


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