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Talking about bad Manners. My dad ever once asked a young Chinese waitress to read the Chinese menu out to him and got some looks from her as she thought he was trying to be funny, since he speaks perfect Chinese.
He's of the older generation that can speak, but never studied written Chinese. So of course he can't read. Now he's not dying his hair, I told him just say you're far sighted so you can't read the menu.
You may have had that sign out, but what if the people in question can't read, either because they don't know the written language, or have bad eyesight? Is that their fault?
Apparently talking about Manners makes you nekkid. That's two pages in a row!

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Ah well. That's a different story then. I'd just go sorry chum. We be sold out. But no need to get nasty about it.
There are lots of people who can't find their way to the cable car tower(it's at the back of my office building and there are signs pointing the way) and if I have time I actually escort them there.

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Ah well. That's a different story then. I'd just go sorry chum. We be sold out. But no need to get nasty about it.
There are lots of people who can't find their way to the cable car tower(it's at the back of my office building and there are signs pointing the way) and if I have time I actually escort them there.
Let me tell you about a job I had I worked at a concession stand at an amusement park. We were one of the first places you see when entering the park. As a result of this we had lines from the beginning of the day till the end. Endless flood of people throughout the entire day. I occasionally had to be on register. I hated register. but thats a different story sort of. Now on the walls were these large plastic dispensers that has NAPKINS written down them in LARGE bight print. Hanging from the dispenser was a napkin in plain view. One of these dispensers (they were everywhere) happened to be located just slightly to the right of me where I stood and took money. Right at eye level might I add. Still every other person that came through asked me Where are your napkins? This didn't bother me at first I would just lightly reach my hand out and touch the dispenser. however after doing this job for 3 months with untold thousands of people asking me the same thing day in and day out and begging the manager to stop putting me on register I quit before I strangled someone. (there was other reasons too but that contributed.)

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Orthos wrote:lynora wrote:lisamarlene wrote:Yeah it’s a super annoying phase. Sometimes it takes longer to grow out of than others....kidlet currently eats like five things and that’s it. I keep reminding myself that my sister wouldn’t eat vegetables until she was like 18 or so, so there’s still some hope...Teensy Valeros is doing the standard thing of deciding that food is "horrible", "gross", and "disgusting" before he's tried it, bursting into tears, throwing a tantrum, and demanding dried cereal.
And when he didn't get his way, sat on the staircase outside the dining room playing his harmonica sadly until it got taken away.
And I thought Hermione was a drama queen.(Dinner, btw, was a crimini mushroom, red pepper and Italian sausage risotto with fresh basil, and roasted asparagus (or "despairagus" as Val calls it) on the side. Not in the least disgusting unless you don't particularly like risotto.).
I am doing my best not to let it hurt my feelings. Hermione went through this phase as well (albeit without the sad harmonica) and now eats everything I make.
My niece has apparently hit this phase at all of age 6.
The good news is many vegetables are on her list of "will eat without complaint" bizarrely.
The bad news is that most main courses - meats, breads (other than french fries), eggs, etc. - she either is really picky about or eats incredibly slowly and very little thereof. The two weeks they were out here almost every meal was filled with her parents having to basically push her to finish each meal.
And no, it's not a vegetarian/vegan thing.
My Youngest tonight cried tears of horror and physical pain because I gave him a bite of... cake.
He ate a couple of broccoli to cheer himself up, thereafter (and Mac-n-cheese).
kids are weird.

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captain yesterday wrote:The General went through two child births without anything for the pain, not even so much as an ibuprofen.
"Was that it?" - After giving birth to Crookshanks.
I’m happy that the general had such positive childbirth experiences.
That said, could we please, pretty please not with the whole pain tolerance = virtue thing? Please? It’s important.
of course.

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I'm lawful and I can't lie to a website!
Yes, cover turtle, you may footpalm now.
Why would I do that? You strict Lawful nature just makes you cuter and cuddlier to this turtle ^^
Think of my kitty poking and prodding as, my attempts of adding a little…chaos…to Kitty's existence.
There are so, so many gifts this turtle can offer to a sweet kitty such as you…
But really Mort, just keep being you. You're a fine ball of fur just as you are, claws and all!
I was trying for the 25m underwater with a single breath thing. I managed about 21.8m on a single breath on Sunday. Go me!
You sure you're not some sort of cat-frog hybrid?
A Frat? or a Caog maybe?You'd peddle past me no problem it seems…
I...
I don't really do the diving thing. Had a drowning experience as a young kid (I was 8 or maybe 9 years old back then), had to be resuscitate.
Haven't been completely comfortable with diving ever since. Though I'm still quite drawn to water for some reason, just don't want to get beneath the surface.
No Mort cover turtle is the tortoise your a cat.
Completely true. Any attempts by me to keep up with Mort's running would in all probability end up in me having a aneurysm or a heart attack.
Now for some completely different.
I'm not, and never have been, good at understanding the emotions of others.
I often miss the signs of displeasure or disapproval, or I'm too suck up in my own feelings or emotions to notice.
What I'm saying is, if I post, act or say anything that any here takes umbrage at, please tell me.
I simply don't think that I can spot such things by myself as I have learned times and again that I often don't see the world quite the same way as (some? most?) others, especially when there are emotions involved. I'm sorry to inconvenience you like this but, I felt that I couldn't keep on pretending there wasn't anything wrong?
And Freehold.
I'm sorry, I don't know if I can discuss my "peculiarities".
It's something that weighs quite a bit on my mind and something I hold very private.
In fact, its some I've only shared with a select few, numbering less the a hand, and its genuinely not something I wish to share with anyone who doesn't share that particular kink (or kinks). While at least one person gave me a calm, measured and heartwarming reaction (even if she didn't share my fantasies), I don't want (somewhat ironically) to push my fantasies on anyone.
I just don't think a "public forum" is the place for me to share in these things. I just feel like its going to open quite the can of worms (heck, it would probably be against the forum guidelines) and would invite moderator intervention.
Sorry again Freehold…
I actually would like to talk about it, but this just isn't the place…

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Just a Mort wrote:I'm lawful and I can't lie to a website!
Yes, cover turtle, you may footpalm now.
Why would I do that? You strict Lawful nature just makes you cuter and cuddlier to this turtle ^^
Think of my kitty poking and prodding as, my attempts of adding a little…chaos…to Kitty's existence.
There are so, so many gifts this turtle can offer to a sweet kitty such as you…But really Mort, just keep being you. You're a fine ball of fur just as you are, claws and all!
Just a Mort wrote:I was trying for the 25m underwater with a single breath thing. I managed about 21.8m on a single breath on Sunday. Go me!
You sure you're not some sort of cat-frog hybrid?
A Frat? or a Caog maybe?
You'd peddle past me no problem it seems…
I...
I don't really do the diving thing. Had a drowning experience as a young kid (I was 8 or maybe 9 years old back then), had to be resuscitate.
Haven't been completely comfortable with diving ever since. Though I'm still quite drawn to water for some reason, just don't want to get beneath the surface.Vidmaster7 wrote:No Mort cover turtle is the tortoise your a cat.Completely true. Any attempts by me to keep up with Mort's running would in all probability end up in me having a aneurysm or a heart attack.
Now for some completely different.
I'm not, and never have been, good at understanding the emotions of others.
I often miss the signs of displeasure or disapproval, or I'm too suck up in my own feelings or emotions to notice.
What I'm saying is, if I post, act or say anything that any here takes umbrage at, please tell me.
I simply don't think that I can spot such things by myself as I have learned times and again that I often don't see the world quite the same way as (some? most?) others, especially when there are emotions involved. I'm sorry to inconvenience you like this but, I felt that I couldn't keep on pretending there wasn't...
worry not, my shelled friend.
You need not share if you do not want to. Sex is a a glorious but private pursuit to many, you are very much within parameters here.

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Just a Mort wrote:I'm lawful and I can't lie to a website!
Yes, cover turtle, you may footpalm now.
Why would I do that? You strict Lawful nature just makes you cuter and cuddlier to this turtle ^^
Think of my kitty poking and prodding as, my attempts of adding a little…chaos…to Kitty's existence.
There are so, so many gifts this turtle can offer to a sweet kitty such as you…But really Mort, just keep being you. You're a fine ball of fur just as you are, claws and all!
Just a Mort wrote:I was trying for the 25m underwater with a single breath thing. I managed about 21.8m on a single breath on Sunday. Go me!
You sure you're not some sort of cat-frog hybrid?
A Frat? or a Caog maybe?
You'd peddle past me no problem it seems…
I...
I don't really do the diving thing. Had a drowning experience as a young kid (I was 8 or maybe 9 years old back then), had to be resuscitate.
Haven't been completely comfortable with diving ever since. Though I'm still quite drawn to water for some reason, just don't want to get beneath the surface.Vidmaster7 wrote:No Mort cover turtle is the tortoise your a cat.Completely true. Any attempts by me to keep up with Mort's running would in all probability end up in me having a aneurysm or a heart attack.
Now for some completely different.
I'm not, and never have been, good at understanding the emotions of others.
I often miss the signs of displeasure or disapproval, or I'm too suck up in my own feelings or emotions to notice.
What I'm saying is, if I post, act or say anything that any here takes umbrage at, please tell me.
I simply don't think that I can spot such things by myself as I have learned times and again that I often don't see the world quite the same way as (some? most?) others, especially when there are emotions involved. I'm sorry to inconvenience you like this but, I felt that I couldn't keep on pretending there wasn't...
A Frat sound cute...a Caog sounds like something out of the Abyss. No offense meant but I thought the idea of demon names were to be unpronounceable. Actually I'm a really slow swimmer ^^ I sort of laze around in the water, and get to see those pajamas wearing kids swim past me in their pajamas.
Sorry if I brought up any bad memories of your bad childhood experiences.
It is possible to surface swim, I did that the last time I forgot to bring my goggles (yay me!). It's more tiring then swimming underwater.
If you want to, it's possible to train out that phobia of yours, but you really need to want to do it, and it won't be easy. And at the end of the day you won't need to - since it's not as if your job requires it.
For anyone who wants to run faster - I'd be the first person to tell you no short cuts - you need to train the stamina slowly. Usually when people push too hard, they get all kinds of complications.
Well Cover Turtle, you haven't posted anything I'd take umbrage at. The clawing was nothing personal - most cats don't like getting belly rubbed. There's lots of articles showing that.

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My phobias...eh, I yowl when put on a roller coaster, I'm scared of heights - but not to the point I can't function. As long as I don't look down, and look forward, or grab on to railing tightly, I can get across. Oh and I get jump scared quite easily. Jump at me around the corner and I'll jump.
Not that it's particularly hard to sneak around me since I'm nose in phone most of the time anyway.

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Well, today is probably going to be either a very yammery NobodysHome day, or a very quiet one:
So my entire team is out except for *one* person who just told me I shouldn't be doing any work for her today. The kids are out of school and sleeping in. Yeah, Impus Minor has been ludicrously sick for 6 days and I'll be taking him to the doctor's today, but it doesn't seem likely that will impact my non-existent workload.
NobodysHome doesn't do well with nothing to do, so I figure I'll work on the wish list and then try to dig up something to do. Otherwise, it'll be FaWtL, FaWtL, FaWtL all day...

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Speaking of random communications: Hey LM! Any update on Friday the 29th? I'm hoping to make the reservations tonight for 7:00 pm. So you'll need a sitter from roughly 6:30 - 10:00 pm (expecting dinner for such a large group to take a while).
Let me know via PM, text, or FaWtL, since FaWtL folk LOVE watching other people's social engagements! :-P

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Just bought discount Tuesday tickets to take everyone to see Incredibles 2 tomorrow night!
I think it's going to be a surprise...
This is our last week as a family until right before the move, with the kids taking turns going up to my mom's in Oregon for "Grandma Camp" (we can't afford to send them to summer camp and I'm teaching summer school until right up before the move) and Whingey Wizzard going to Texas next month to look for jobs and figure out once and for all whether we're moving straight into his mom's house or renting a place of our own first.
So I figured a solid family outing was not a frivolous use of funds under the circumstances. Even if Fandango's "convenience fee" costs more than one of the freaking tickets.

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Talking about bad Manners. My dad ever once asked a young Chinese waitress to read the Chinese menu out to him and got some looks from her as she thought he was trying to be funny, since he speaks perfect Chinese.
He's of the older generation that can speak, but never studied written Chinese. So of course he can't read. Now he's not dying his hair, I told him just say you're far sighted so you can't read the menu.
You may have had that sign out, but what if the people in question can't read, either because they don't know the written language, or have bad eyesight? Is that their fault?
Apparently talking about Manners makes you nekkid. That's two pages in a row!
So that's a thing. Why?
None of the older generation of Chinese faculty at our school can teach children over 4, only the 0-3, because they can't read/write Traditional characters, but even considering all the political/cultural questions I've asked and they've answered over the years, I've always been shy about asking "Why can't you read your native language?"

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Just bought discount Tuesday tickets to take everyone to see Incredibles 2 tomorrow night!
I think it's going to be a surprise...This is our last week as a family until right before the move, with the kids taking turns going up to my mom's in Oregon for "Grandma Camp" (we can't afford to send them to summer camp and I'm teaching summer school until right up before the move) and Whingey Wizzard going to Texas next month to look for jobs and figure out once and for all whether we're moving straight into his mom's house or renting a place of our own first.
So I figured a solid family outing was not a frivolous use of funds under the circumstances. Even if Fandango's "convenience fee" costs more than one of the freaking tickets.
Yeah, that's the *ONE* thing we miss out on with all our gaming. We haven't even seen "Infinity Wars" yet.
As far as I know, Shiro will be non-radioactive enough that we can try to do the Cerrito on Friday to see it (if it's still playing).
6 weeks of an iodine-free diet and then a week of being highly radioactive for 1/4 of our group had serious social impacts.
On the bright side, we saved quite a bit of money on food and spent it on furniture instead (a more long-term investment), and played around 20 hours of Final Fantasy as a group over the weekend.
It's been YEARS since I've enjoyed that much downtime.
We give you: The Cuddler. (In black, of course, and back ordered 'til late August so LM won't get to enjoy its swively ludicrosity.)
EDIT: And before you say, "WTF?" at the price for a single chair, it's actually almost 5' across, holds two adults lying down together quite comfortably (we tested), and we will never extract Impus Minor nor the Fluffernutter from it once it arrives. 'Cause swively.
It's cheaper, holds more people, and is arguably more comfortable than a single recliner chair, which was the other thing we were considering.

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Speaking of sensitive political/cultural questions:
She is twelve years younger than me, so was only 3 years old at the time.
What she was told in later years as a student was that all the Tienanmen protesters "eventually emigrated to America".
And she really believed it.
I mean, that's kind of like believing that the dog really went to live on a big farm upstate, right?

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I'm 300 500 posts or so behind now, probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...
Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy* for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
Edit: * Taco Bell/Old El Paso mild taco sauce is Dad's spiciness threshold (and even that garners complaints). Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich would be completely inedible to them both.

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On the bright side, we saved quite a bit of money on food and spent it on furniture instead (a more long-term investment), and played around 20 hours of Final Fantasy as a group over the weekend.
It's been YEARS since I've enjoyed that much downtime.We give you: The Cuddler. (In black, of course, and back ordered 'til late August so LM won't get to enjoy its swively ludicrosity.)
EDIT: And before you say, "WTF?" at the price for a single chair, it's actually almost 5' across, holds two adults lying down together quite comfortably (we tested), and we will never extract Impus Minor nor the Fluffernutter from it once it arrives. 'Cause swively.
It's cheaper, holds more people, and is arguably more comfortable than a single recliner chair, which was the other thing we were considering.
I'd say I hate you, but we'd both know it's a lie.
Now I've got hard-core furniture envy.
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Please tell me you could fire radioactive eye beams.
I'm afraid the most exciting thing Shiro's done during all his radioactive adventures was prove that he was radioactive enough to generate static on his headset mic.
The good news is that after 3 surgeries and two massive radiation treatments over the last few years, they're pretty sure they're killing off the last of the cancer with this treatment, so now it's just hoping that the radiation treatment didn't introduce any new forms of cancer.
Stupid cancer!
EDIT: And apologies to TL for bringing up such a sensitive topic so soon, but as I told Impus Major as he was sobbing over losing another loved one to cancer: Focus on the people who win. Sometimes, cancer can be beaten.
Otherwise you live your life in terror of, "Who's next?"

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NobodysHome wrote:Impus Major's Friend: Hey, Impus Major! What time is your brother's graduation? My brother's graduating, too, and he didn't know what time it was.
Impus Major: Hang on a sec, let me ask him...
Impus Minor: I don't know.
Impus Major: He doesn't know.
IMF: Tell your brother he's an idiot.The most entertaining aspects of this conversation are:
IMF's brother didn't know, either. So either the school did a terrible job of communicating when graduation was happening for them, or BOTH brothers are idiots. Both are distinct possibilities.
This summarizes my life with teenagers. The school rashly assumes they will communicate with me in some manner. They fail. Events are entirely missed. Huge 12-hour parties are planned at my home without my knowledge.
Anyone have a bomb shelter I can lease for 16 years 'til both my kids hit 30?
I think high schools should do what preschools do: assume the students are not capable of communicating accurately and spam the parents with multiple, detailed email reminders about each event.
Then the *parents* can ignore the reminders, not read the emails, and shrug and say, "Oh, I didn't know that."
Which they do. Because most parents are idiots.
Lol. The kidlet’s high school does just this. We get emails from the district, a weekly schedule of events from the school, a monthly newsletter....
And I still can’t keep all the events straight without looking things up...>.<I mean, yeah, I do have adhd, and I’m lucky if I can remember my own schedule...:P

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Probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...
Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
The way my Sicilian auntie taught me was to make my meatballs 1/2 beef, 1/2 pork (okay, she actually used veal/pork, but I won't use or consume veal)... add one egg per pound of meat so they bind together better, some Italian seasoning (she used fresh herbs but in meatballs I can't tell the difference) and then she fries up the meatballs at the bottom of the big pot, gently (not high, or they scorch), and when they're nicely browned, toss in the garlic for just a minute, and then the crushed tomatoes and the wine and whatever else you're going to throw in...
And then let it sit and simmer, covered, as long as you reasonably can, to let the flavor of the meat fill the sauce.
You also get a better consistency out of meatballs, meatloaf, hamburger, etc. if you have a big-a$$ stand mixer like a Kitchenaid, and you can throw everything in that big metal bowl and whip the crap out of it on high for a few minutes to break down the... somethingorother in the tissues. Collagens, maybe? But it softens up the meat and makes it more velvety.

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Probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...
Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
I don't know how much time you have, but making it from scratch can be extremely simple, and make for an amazing sauce if you cook it for long enough:
- Enough Roma tomatoes to fill your pot. What? 3 pounds? 4 pounds? A lot. 1.5-2 kg or more for you furriners- A bottle of good red wine. I'd surprisingly found that I prefer Zinfandels over Cabernets for this
- A head of garlic
- Maybe 1 tbsp oregano, 1 tsp thyme, 1 tsp marjoram. (What's that in furreign? 30 ml, 10 ml, 10 ml?)
- Around 1/2 lb of really high-quality italian sausage (250 g)
- Salt
So basically, brown the sausage a bit, but leave it a little raw, then throw in maybe 10-12 cloves of garlic, the herbs, maybe 1 cup of red wine (250 ml), all the tomatoes either crushed or diced (no, I don't even bother peeling them), and a couple of tablespoons of salt.
Then simmer it for maybe 8 hours, taste it, and start adjusting the seasoning, giving it about 2 hours to even out after each adjustment. It's very low-effort overall, but it's usually a 24+-hour dish.
EDIT: LM's Sicilian auntie is right; adding the meat early can make the meat more tender and velvety, but I always encounter the issue that if you get low-fat meat it never tastes right, and if you get full-fat meat the sauce gets a bit too much fat in it. So I'm of the, "Enough sausage to flavor the sauce, then add the rest of the meat after the sauce is done" school, but tastes vary.

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lisamarlene wrote:I pictured pinning notes to the teenagers' shirts. I like that idea.NobodysHome wrote:Impus Major's Friend: Hey, Impus Major! What time is your brother's graduation? My brother's graduating, too, and he didn't know what time it was.
Impus Major: Hang on a sec, let me ask him...
Impus Minor: I don't know.
Impus Major: He doesn't know.
IMF: Tell your brother he's an idiot.The most entertaining aspects of this conversation are:
IMF's brother didn't know, either. So either the school did a terrible job of communicating when graduation was happening for them, or BOTH brothers are idiots. Both are distinct possibilities.
This summarizes my life with teenagers. The school rashly assumes they will communicate with me in some manner. They fail. Events are entirely missed. Huge 12-hour parties are planned at my home without my knowledge.
Anyone have a bomb shelter I can lease for 16 years 'til both my kids hit 30?
I think high schools should do what preschools do: assume the students are not capable of communicating accurately and spam the parents with multiple, detailed email reminders about each event.
Then the *parents* can ignore the reminders, not read the emails, and shrug and say, "Oh, I didn't know that."
Which they do. Because most parents are idiots.
I have threatened at various points to do this to the kidlet because neither he nor his math teacher could remember that he needed to take a makeup test that he had missed. I ended up writing on his hand in sharpie instead, but it was definitely the next step

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Speaking of random communications: Hey LM! Any update on Friday the 29th? I'm hoping to make the reservations tonight for 7:00 pm. So you'll need a sitter from roughly 6:30 - 10:00 pm (expecting dinner for such a large group to take a while).
Let me know via PM, text, or FaWtL, since FaWtL folk LOVE watching other people's social engagements! :-P
I'd only need to get a sitter for Hermione, since Val will be at my mom's. That's not as hard. The only remaining question is a budget one: bluntly, what do you anticipate the per-person share of the tab being, in the end? I'm guessing based on the kind of restaurants you go to that it will be around 50-75 per person? Or am I lowballing it?

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Nh just did a fancier version of what I was going to suggest- put sauce in pot with raw meat, cook forever over low heat with a couple of cups of wine(one for the pot, one for you, one for the pot, one for you, stop when you start singing showtunes. Or if you are lisamarlene or lynora, stop when you cannot remember showtunes).

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Nh just did a fancier version of what I was going to suggest- put sauce in pot with raw meat, cook forever over low heat with a couple of cups of wine(one for the pot, one for you, one for the pot, one for you, stop when you start singing showtunes. Or if you are lisamarlene or lynora, stop when you cannot remember showtunes).
...at least 19 hours. That's *almost* as long as my mother-in-law cooks a turkey.

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I'm
300500 posts or so behind now, probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy* for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
Edit: * Taco Bell/Old El Paso mild taco sauce is Dad's spiciness threshold (and even that garners complaints). Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich would be completely inedible to them both.
*Reads spiciness threshold*
I... What?Huh?
I... Don't...
Even... Friend with horrible heartburn stuff can handle...
mild sauce, no... heat!?
I...
What!??

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Freehold DM wrote:Nh just did a fancier version of what I was going to suggest- put sauce in pot with raw meat, cook forever over low heat with a couple of cups of wine(one for the pot, one for you, one for the pot, one for you, stop when you start singing showtunes. Or if you are lisamarlene or lynora, stop when you cannot remember showtunes)....at least 19 hours. That's *almost* as long as my mother-in-law cooks a turkey.
if it takes you 19 hours to get stewed to the point you cant remember hamilton, you may need to invest in several bottles of wine for this recipe.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...
Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
I don't know how much time you have, but making it from scratch can be extremely simple, and make for an amazing sauce if you cook it for long enough:
- Enough Roma tomatoes to fill your pot. What? 3 pounds? 4 pounds? A lot. 1.5-2 kg or more for you furriners
- A bottle of good red wine. I'd surprisingly found that I prefer Zinfandels over Cabernets for this
- A head of garlic
- Maybe 1 tbsp oregano, 1 tsp thyme, 1 tsp marjoram. (What's that in furreign? 30 ml, 10 ml, 10 ml?)
- Around 1/2 lb of really high-quality italian sausage (250 g)
- SaltSo basically, brown the sausage a bit, but leave it a little raw, then throw in maybe 10-12 cloves of garlic, the herbs, maybe 1 cup of red wine (250 ml), all the tomatoes either crushed or diced (no, I don't even bother peeling them), and a couple of tablespoons of salt.
Then simmer it for maybe 8 hours, taste it, and start adjusting the seasoning, giving it about 2 hours to even out after each adjustment. It's very low-effort overall, but it's usually a 24+-hour dish.
EDIT: LM's Sicilian auntie is right; adding the meat early can make the meat more tender and velvety, but I always encounter the issue that if you get low-fat meat it never tastes right, and if you get full-fat meat the sauce gets a bit too much fat in it. So I'm of the, "Enough sausage to flavor the sauce, then add the rest of the meat after the sauce is done" school, but tastes vary.
Can't wait till I turn 21, next month...
I don't want to drink, but I adore cooking with wine.
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Just a Mort wrote:Talking about bad Manners. My dad ever once asked a young Chinese waitress to read the Chinese menu out to him and got some looks from her as she thought he was trying to be funny, since he speaks perfect Chinese.
He's of the older generation that can speak, but never studied written Chinese. So of course he can't read. Now he's not dying his hair, I told him just say you're far sighted so you can't read the menu.
You may have had that sign out, but what if the people in question can't read, either because they don't know the written language, or have bad eyesight? Is that their fault?
Apparently talking about Manners makes you nekkid. That's two pages in a row!
So that's a thing. Why?
None of the older generation of Chinese faculty at our school can teach children over 4, only the 0-3, because they can't read/write Traditional characters, but even considering all the political/cultural questions I've asked and they've answered over the years, I've always been shy about asking "Why can't you read your native language?"
I don't see it as an issue but the answer is slightly influenced by Asian politics.
The reason was because my Dad was studying at the time that Singapore was going to merge with Malaysia, so at home he speaks Chinese, but in school - the national language was Malay, so besides English, he learnt to read and write in Malay.
Furthermore due to the association of communists with Chinese schools - my Granddad chose to send my father to English schools.
The Chinese schools at that time, which were associated with communists were the only places teaching how to read and write Chinese.

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NobodysHome wrote:Can't wait till I turn 21, next...Ambrosia Slaad wrote:Probably won't be online much for the immediate future. I've been drafted as grocery shopper & head chef/cook for Mom & Dad for time being. Tonight's dinner is planned/ingredients on hand, so that's ok. But as for tomorrow's dinner...
Does anyone have recommendations and/or tricks making spaghetti, sauce, & meatballs? I've got an old standby recipe, but I'm looking to mix things up a bit and try something different. I can't cook anything spicy for them, but otherwise open to new options & ideas.
I don't know how much time you have, but making it from scratch can be extremely simple, and make for an amazing sauce if you cook it for long enough:
- Enough Roma tomatoes to fill your pot. What? 3 pounds? 4 pounds? A lot. 1.5-2 kg or more for you furriners
- A bottle of good red wine. I'd surprisingly found that I prefer Zinfandels over Cabernets for this
- A head of garlic
- Maybe 1 tbsp oregano, 1 tsp thyme, 1 tsp marjoram. (What's that in furreign? 30 ml, 10 ml, 10 ml?)
- Around 1/2 lb of really high-quality italian sausage (250 g)
- SaltSo basically, brown the sausage a bit, but leave it a little raw, then throw in maybe 10-12 cloves of garlic, the herbs, maybe 1 cup of red wine (250 ml), all the tomatoes either crushed or diced (no, I don't even bother peeling them), and a couple of tablespoons of salt.
Then simmer it for maybe 8 hours, taste it, and start adjusting the seasoning, giving it about 2 hours to even out after each adjustment. It's very low-effort overall, but it's usually a 24+-hour dish.
EDIT: LM's Sicilian auntie is right; adding the meat early can make the meat more tender and velvety, but I always encounter the issue that if you get low-fat meat it never tastes right, and if you get full-fat meat the sauce gets a bit too much fat in it. So I'm of the, "Enough sausage to flavor the sauce, then add the rest of the meat after the sauce is done" school, but tastes vary.
I cooked with wine before I was 18. Chinese cooking wine features a lot in our cuisine.

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lisamarlene wrote:(You would *really* hate to be in our car on a road trip.)as I have quite accidentally heard your talking voice, I would have no problem being serenaded by you during a road trip. I would request silence should I snapchat any landmarks, however.
ROFL. Do you have any idea how many tries it took to get my voicemail greeting to sound like that? More than the number of hours my MIL cooks a turkey.

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NobodysHome wrote:I'd only need to get a sitter for Hermione, since Val will be at my mom's. That's not as hard. The only remaining question is a budget one: bluntly, what do you anticipate the per-person share of the tab being, in the end? I'm guessing based on the kind of restaurants you go to that it will be around 50-75 per person? Or am I lowballing it?Speaking of random communications: Hey LM! Any update on Friday the 29th? I'm hoping to make the reservations tonight for 7:00 pm. So you'll need a sitter from roughly 6:30 - 10:00 pm (expecting dinner for such a large group to take a while).
Let me know via PM, text, or FaWtL, since FaWtL folk LOVE watching other people's social engagements! :-P
Er... it's *MY* birthday. Your share will be $0.
Captain Yesterday has his amazing set of horrifying birthday stories.
My least-favorite birthday?
Last year, when I invited everyone to Rivoli to celebrate my 50th with me, I told everyone it was MY treat, and then stubborn Portuguese woman insisted on paying NobodysWife anyway, making everyone else decide to pay.
It was aggravating. It was humiliating. I had people come to me after the fact saying, "Y'know, it was your 50th and all but that was really expensive."
People who want to pay me for my BIRTHDAY GIFT OF BUYING DINNER FOR THEM should not come to my birthday!
Grr!!!!
(Sorry, but it was a major, MAJOR sore point with me last year. I invite everyone to dinner, tell them I'm paying, and ended up not paying a dime. For guys like Shiro yeah, if he insists on grabbing the tab I'll let him because I happen to know he makes more than me and NobodysWife combined and his kid is all grown up and out of the house. But when I'm inviting unemployed writers and schoolteachers to dinner, THEY WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR OWN DINNERS, damn it.)
Yes. There are things that piss NobodysHome off. Making people who thought they were getting a free dinner shell out $100+ apiece is one of them.
EDIT: Honestly, you're not alone in being uncomfortable with being treated to dinner. Choir director, Portuguese woman, and the fake Russian all adamantly refuse to allow me to buy them food without paying their share.
I figure my birthday is the ONE day a year I can get away with saying, "Nyah nyah! Rules don't apply! I get to pay today! Neiner neiner!"
And it's my birthday so I get away with it.
EDIT 2: And yes, if they still had those "women's menus" that didn't list the prices for anything, I'd totally make everyone in the group get those so people would order what they wanted, not what they thought I could afford. If you aren't buying the $2000 bottle of wine (or heck, even $200), I'm fine with whatever you order.