I always thought Spongebob was just stupid. It seemed incredibly dumb. Like, you need to be really high to enjoy it dumb. But if you're THAT high anything I fun, so why waste time on that?
Well you're both wrong. :-)
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Grilling, Captain Yesterday style.
-Get a grill, after never having a grill.
-Get hipster grilling charcoal (all natural of course)
-Spend at least an hour trying to get it sufficiently lit.
-Settle on S'mores, the chicken, Krabby Patties (what we have to call burgers in front of the kids), brats, and marinated pork kabobs will have to wait until tomorrow.
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Grilling, Captain Yesterday style.
-Get a grill, after never having a grill.
-Get hipster grilling charcoal (all natural of course)
-Spend at least an hour trying to get it sufficiently lit.
-Settle on S'mores, the chicken, Krabby Patties (what we have to call burgers in front of the kids), brats, and marinated pork kabobs will have to wait until tomorrow.
Do you have an empty coffee can, some basic tools, and some spare time?
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We got it figured out. Had grilled corn and burgers, Pea Bear had a brat.
S'mores be next I guess. I hate S'mores, so none for me.
Well you're both wrong. :-)
I, at least, can say that I am truly not incorrect.
I have a visceral physical reaction to the things being flashed on the screen.
If you enjoy it, that's fine - it's not a value-judgement on the show, it's a fundamental reaction to what is happening.
I've tried watching it, and it's an unpleasant experience the whole time.
I'm glad you like it, though~! Enjoy! :D
Also, what's up with the water IN the water? Or the fires underwater? Or Sandy being able to eat/drink through her glass?
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What's up with anything in any cartoon. How does Archer survive getting shot seven times in the back. Every week.
Trying to bring reality to poke holes at a cartoon is a false argument.
And nobody asked you.
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Also, what's up with the water IN the water? Or the fires underwater? Or Sandy being able to eat/drink through her glass?
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If you're wondering how Sandy eats and breathes,And other science facts, (La-la-la)
Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax."
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Ok... so I watched season 1 of Scooby Doo Mysteries Inc.
I TOTALLY blame a certain someone on here that went on endlessly about how great it was...
My thoughts?
Pros:
- It follows the original Scooby Doo fairly accurately.
- I love that their relationships evolve over time.
Cons:
- Fred is a blithering idiot. I totally feel sorry for Daphne.
- The capers ignore physics. No one is going to believe a girl in a rubber suit can throw a large man around like a stuffed toy. Or that mere body builders can tear apart construction machinery and knock down stone walls with their bare hands.
Obviously this show was aimed at adolescent children so I get that it's just about the gang acting like the gang. But I only give it a Watchable and fun but nothing special.
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Looked through Wardens of the Reborn Forge. Won't spoil much, but I would've expected Gunslingers to have Rapid Reload. I'm not a character builder, but even I know you don't make a Gunslinger without Rapid Reload. Have movie westerns and Pirates of the Caribbean taught us nothing!
It really should be a bonus feat.
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What's up with anything in any cartoon. How does Archer survive getting shot seven times in the back. Every week.
Trying to bring reality to poke holes at a cartoon is a false argument.
And nobody asked you.
I wasn't trying to poke holes in it - it was a genuine question. Is it something they ever address? I haven't watched enough episodes. Is it, like, deeper water, or something? I don't know if they have some kind of internal logical consistency, or if they make jokes about it (a lot of cartoons like to make fun of their own shortcomings and I appreciate when they make meta-jokes like that).
Just cause I don't like it doesn't mean I want it to end or other people to not like it.
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Sorry!
Yes, they do make jokes about it. One episode Patchy the Pirate sends a birthday invitation to Spongebob, but he can't read it because the ink ran and smeared and Spongebob says "Whoever sent this clearly does not understand the physical limitations of living underwater!... well, better throw them in the fire"
Spongebob fun fact: the creator is an oceanographer Marine Biologist. And Biff from Back to the Future is a voice actor on the show.
Edit: fixed an error.
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Biff from Back to the Future is a voice actor on the show.
He's a really funny standup comedian, too.
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Also Klaus the fish from American Dad is in it a lot.
Both my kids love Squidward best.
"Who needs a soul when you have money" - Mister Krabs
"Why must every eleven minutes of my life be filled with pain, and misery" - Squidward Tentacles. Each episode, after commercial breaks is around eleven minutes long.
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Biff from Back to the Future is a voice actor on the show.He's a really funny standup comedian, too.
I'll totally have to look for that, love me some standup comedy.
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When are train passengers going to figure out the posted rules that non-cyclists should not be using the seats in the bike car? The train is not standing room only, so you don't need to sit here, while cyclists are required to stay in here (the railroad has a rule that you must accompany your bicycle at all times). So we have to stand because you can't obey the signs telling you these seats are reserved for cyclists.
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I have a running theory:
"Everyone in the world thinks every rule applies to everyone else except for themselves."
It explains just about everything I've seen people do in my life. Our hatred of when other people do something unfair, our willingness to make excuses for our own behavior, etc.
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I was a little bummed you didn't link to the ask Mark thread which was linked to the rules question.
I'm going to guess right now.
6 people will affirm your position and then one person will take a dump all over everyone else. Aelrynth will come in with the absolute most literal definition of what the word "Is" means, which only causes the next ten to four hundred posts trying to figure out how the Paladin fell, legally speaking.
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I personally wonder how the Sprite learned Charm Monster so many times, what is it, like ten times. :-)
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Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
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Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
That sounds like a fetish porno.
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I was a little bummed you didn't link to the ask Mark thread which was linked to the rules question.
In retrospect I could've linked one ask thread that linked another that linked another until I went through all of them and ended back up at my original thread.
Oh well, 20/20 hindsight.
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Something to think about in the future. :-)
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That sounds like a fetish porno.Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
I was thinking of a dwarven clown show based on the Dr. Seuss book, Ten Apples up on Top.
But I see you went there with it. :-)
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That sounds like a fetish porno.Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
Give this man a director's chair! He's going places! Straight to the top!
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Give this man a director's chair! He's going places! Straight to the top!That sounds like a fetish porno.Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
...of the pile!
Ok... so I watched season 1 of Scooby Doo Mysteries Inc.
I TOTALLY blame a certain someone on here that went on endlessly about how great it was...
My thoughts?
Pros:
- It follows the original Scooby Doo fairly accurately.
- I love that their relationships evolve over time.Cons:
- Fred is a blithering idiot. I totally feel sorry for Daphne.
- The capers ignore physics. No one is going to believe a girl in a rubber suit can throw a large man around like a stuffed toy. Or that mere body builders can tear apart construction machinery and knock down stone walls with their bare hands.Obviously this show was aimed at adolescent children so I get that it's just about the gang acting like the gang. But I only give it a Watchable and fun but nothing special.
Hah! I definitely disagree, but you're free to feel how you like! :D
(Also, as for physics, I recommend not watching cartoons. Any of them. Even Batman: TAS or Gargoyles - (in)famous rubber cars and impossible falls come to mind for those shows, too, and I love those things to death.)
That said, I think you're focusing unfairly on who's an idiot. Fred most certainly is, but so is everyone - including Daphne - when it suits their character to be. Fred, at least, has an entire history of emotional estrangement and repression.
One of the strong points of the show is that they each grow and mature - while remaining themselves - throughout both seasons. Fred has emotional hangups. Daphne has completely inappropriate expectations and puts wrongful pressure on him - she wants him to be someone that he isn't, and that's not his fault.
It's a surprisingly mature concept, and one that I teach when we do premarital counseling:
E + P = D
That is:
Expectations + Performance = Disappointment
The reason Daphne is constantly disappointed in Fred is because she hasn't truly fallen in love with Fred for who he is. She's fallen for an idealized version of Fred created exclusively in her mind. That idealized version has lots of similarities to the real Fred, but it lacks some of his key features.
Velma and Shaggy had the same problem, at first, but the clarification of who and what they were, and coming to an understanding that she didn't want him unless he changed to be someone else was an important part of both of their character growths.
Fred, of course, changes who and what he is. But it's not Daphne's doing - she can't force him to change. Instead, she can only be there when and if he decides to do so. This is a fundamental truth for anyone who's in any sort of a relationship.
Similarly, the show acknowledges the problems with its own physics in multiple ways. And in other ways, it ignores it, or rather, embraces it as part of the genre it's trying to be.
I will admit that the the show is at its weakest when trying to do things in an exclusively "realistic" manner (though the emotional beats, when they exist, are very strong)... but, for the most part, it very much so embraces the nonsense of its genre, and most of those "realistic" (or, more usually, science fiction) elements are immediately undercut by (or are directly part of) a joke.
For instance, in the very episode alluded to by Aranna,
It then explains that the excess helium gas must have affected the guys by the "anterior release mechanism" - i.e. the suit farted helium and made the guys' voices squeaky.
Similarly, early on,
A little later, this comes back to bite him, with wrongful imprisonment lawsuits. When are we informed of this? When he refuses to lock a guy up on the kids' say-so because of all the lawsuits -
.. it's a nod to realism, but the entire point of bringing reality is a joke + plot element.
This goes right back to the beginning of the show: the first post I made about it has both biting commentary about
... yet has that same guy somehow afford a host of ridiculous items and techniques that would be prohibitively expensive, for the purpose of robbing a bank that, by all metrics, should have less money than either the money he could have made with his inventions or the money it would have required to create them in the first place.
(For the record, this is pretty standard for everyone, including the first spoiler, I mentioned above.)
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If you're wondering how Sandy eats and breathes,
And other science facts, (La-la-la)
Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax."
Pretty much.
I find it fun to nerd out over the things, heavily analyze and compare them to reality, but the enjoyment of this show is seeing just how ridiculous some of it gets.
The humor is written so that "adolescent children" can enjoy it... but much like the Animaniacs or UP!, it was not written for or aimed at them.
That said, feel free not to love it! I don't mind!
Each person has their own tastes! :D
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Or ten dwarves riding on top of each other with the undersized mount feat.
Now, that's dwarven ingenuity. :-)
Seven, guys. It's seven dwarves.
All riding on top of Snow Whi- wait-!
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The "Off to work we go" line becomes a lot more degrading though. But she's probably in to that. Hopefully.
The "Off to work we go" line becomes a lot more degrading though. But she's probably in to that. Hopefully.
Mildly not safe for work or children (contains drug use and dwarf abuse).
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I truly love Hell Girl. It is one of my all time favorite anime. I can't decide which opening is my favorite.
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Random musings: Tried book by new author. About halfway through had to abandon book because I realized that the main character was such a caricature of hyper-masculinity that he was basically Gaston from Beauty and the Beast...and could no longer read any scenes he was in without imagining the accompanying musical number....
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More random musings:
So I realized a few days ago that our current campaign has taken an unexpected turn. Our last campaign we were playing planes hopping muderhobos who ended up becoming heroes at the end much to their own surprise. Our current campaign we started out as heroes working hard to stand up for the oppressed against corrupt authorities. Add in trauma and disillusionment and stir and I....I think we're the bad guys now. Or will be shortly. That should make the end of the campaign interesting....
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Tacticslion I draw a line between comic book physics and toon physics. I can easily suspend disbelief for comic book physics, but toon physics just make the show seem TOO dumbed down. The show relies on Toon physics but then I had the same complaint about Animaniacs too. Just means they aimed too childish to get me excited about it.
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Random musings: Tried book by new author. About halfway through had to abandon book because I realized that the main character was such a caricature of hyper-masculinity that he was basically Gaston from Beauty and the Beast...and could no longer read any scenes he was in without imagining the accompanying musical number....
I am curious to know what book it was.
Tacticslion I draw a line between comic book physics and toon physics. I can easily suspend disbelief for comic book physics, but toon physics just make the show seem TOO dumbed down. The show relies on Toon physics but then I had the same complaint about Animaniacs too. Just means they aimed too childish to get me excited about it.
As I said: that's fair; definitely not for all! Same thing with Animaniacs - it's probably akin to my own reaction to Spongebob'.
But, uh, I don't know a cartoon that doesn't, to some extent, rely on entirely ridiculous or impossible physics.
Batman: TAS might be the best cartoon (for me, it's a tie between that, Avatar: The Last Airbender and Gargoyles, in no particular order), but it's still got 'toon physics.
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I love revenge tales. Hence I love Hell Girl.
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Random musings: Tried book by new author. About halfway through had to abandon book because I realized that the main character was such a caricature of hyper-masculinity that he was basically Gaston from Beauty and the Beast...and could no longer read any scenes he was in without imagining the accompanying musical number....I am curious to know what book it was.
Melting into You by Tracey Alvarez. A lamentably bad romance novel that in addition to being constructed solely of cliches has issues with some really icky 'love' scenes in which no apparently means yes. Blech. Definitely one to avoid. Should never have tried to go back and finish this. :/
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Taking the kids to the dentist this morning. :-\
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Okay.
Which one of you took Captain Tomorrow.
Luckily, I was able to recover, but it just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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At the dentist office, ten minutes early. :-)