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captain yesterday wrote:Sadly Fallout 4 is for the PC, X-Box One, and Playstation 4. I feel your pain. If it were not for my Mom being nice, I would be in the same boat as you.Zounds!
I hear ya, probably not for the 360 i'm sure:-(
Something something Dragon Pillaging gone wild.
sorry thats the best i can do on such short notice.

captain yesterday |
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captain yesterday wrote:Sadly Fallout 4 is for the PC, X-Box One, and Playstation 4. I feel your pain. If it were not for my Mom being nice, I would be in the same boat as you.Zounds!
I hear ya, probably not for the 360 i'm sure:-(
I guess i'll have to ramp up my efforts to acquire New Vegas then, you know past the two stores i've looked (one of which i work at:-D) and hopefully the price of Xbox one goes down by spring time:-)

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Sharoth wrote:I guess i'll have to ramp up my efforts to acquire New Vegas then, you know past the two stores i've looked (one of which i work at:-D) and hopefully the price of Xbox one goes down by spring time:-)captain yesterday wrote:Sadly Fallout 4 is for the PC, X-Box One, and Playstation 4. I feel your pain. If it were not for my Mom being nice, I would be in the same boat as you.Zounds!
I hear ya, probably not for the 360 i'm sure:-(
I know that you can get it for the X-Box 360 for $20. Amazon has FO - NV for $14 right now.

Xenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer |
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Xenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:A Walk in the ParkXenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:Running in CirclesXenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:Cold ShoulderXenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:Seeker of SecretsXenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:Shall We Dance?Xenthya, Nuzlocke Trainer wrote:Folding the ForkQuote pyramid was getting too tall to handle. =)

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Treppa wrote:For the love of all that is good and holy, why?Could be worse. Could be "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz".
That is fantastic :)

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I did some writing for Pathfinder today. Still haven't done any studying :P
What I wrote was in response to a question over at the Playground about how to handle fantasy counterpart cultures, which I use, and it let me hash out some basic stuff about my main country in my setting:
I'm trying to hit this with my nation of Vendalia. On the basis of things, it is supposed to be a counterpart of America west of the Rockies, including Hawaii. However, it has it's differences. It is an independent country, yet is also a former colony. I went with Spanish and then British. It has four major population corridors, roughly comparable to Los Angeles-San Diego, San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle-Portland, and Denver (this region is much more heavily populated than the real Denver is). There are major cities outside these areas, but a good three quarters of Vendalia lives in one of these four corridors (note that there are somewhat rural areas within these corridors). That's pretty similar to the real American West. Yet Vendalia's land use patterns are different. Specifically, Vendalians build in a much denser fashion. The classic city looks almost Parisian. I have two alternate universes for Vendalia so that I can have one be Eberrontech and one 20th century tech with magic, and the second gives Vendalia the automobile. Vendalians don't build their cities around the automobile like the vast majority of the United States, however. Suburbs are built around streetcar, bus, and rail lines, and the number of Vendalians who own a car but rarely use it or don't own a car at all is very high. Explaining why would get into politics not allowed on this forum, however (Though I can say that Vendalia, unlike America, is not a federation of largely autonomous states, it is one centralized state, and this is evident through the whole structure of government, and therefore urban planning and infrastructure.). That said, outside major population corridors you very well may need a car to have any sort of mobility. There isn't a whole lot of infrastructure out in the boonies, but there are rural towns out there. The point is that the climate, terrain, and in many ways history and culture is as the real American West, but the urban land scape looks different, and there are reasons within Vendalia's history and culture that explain why it looks different. This is good.
Another thing one could do with a heavily immigrant and multicultural fantasy counterpart culture like Vendalia is play around with those cultures a bit. For example, much of Vendalia was a Spanish colony at one point, just like California and the Southwest. However, Italians discovered and settled the SF Bay Area, with the Spanish just ruling the roost (Conditions in Southern Italy favored emigration much more than conditions in Spain.). Southern Vendalia was, as a Spanish colony, more Italian than it was Spanish. Yet outside the Bay Area and the slave plantations where the natives were trapped, there weren't many Europeans at all. This doesn't really change until after the British nick the land and combine it with their northwestern holdings to create Vendalia. Lots of tension arises between the mostly Italian Mediterranean peoples and the Gaelic-Scandiavian colonizers. This persists to this day in the Bay Area. Not to mention that Gaels and Scandinavians don't necessarily get along all the time. Then immigration opens up, and we get lots of Mexicans, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, Turks, Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese. Especially East Asians. The Asian and White populations are almost at parity with each other (incidentally, that's about the current situation here in San Francisco). From a social perspective, the "primary" ethnic groups are Northern European, Mexican, Western Mediterranean, Eastern Mediterranean, and East Asian. That Natives aren't on that list is a major point of contention and dissatisfaction. Unlike America, Vendalia as a whole lacks a clear racial majority. In the modern day, however, these traditional immigrant groups have tapered off, to be replaced by South Asians, Southeast Asians, and West Africans. So, ethnically it still looks like California in many ways, but also isn't the same. Rather than being part of a superpower, Vendalia is a regional power closely allied (both politically and culturally) with two world powers, Britain and Japan, which causes tension, because Britain and Japan are reluctant allies with each other and have quite the rivalry. That Vendalia considers both close (and not in the least reluctant) allies can sometimes be a point of contention, and when the two quarrel Vendalia can end up caught in between.
Culturally, Vendalians still do American West (or at least Californian and Cascadian) things, like lionizing cowboys, considering surfing a major activity, making lots of movies and TV shows and exporting them, obsessing about high quality food (seriously, us Californians are weird about it, and I don't think Portland and Seattle are much better), loving outdoor activities, and lot of other superficial things. However, there are differences. Vendalia is historically British, and talks like it. You go to hospital (and you don't pay them), go on holiday, call them crisps and chips instead of chips and fries, ride to work on a tram or an underground (and always remember to mind the gap), and such. You do have your own slang, though. You probably say dude a lot, call a locomotive a horse, you usually call cowboys vaqueros, you call American style biscuits sticker scones and eat them with coffee (if you had tea, you would eat sweet scones), an American style soft cookie is a chewy biscuit and is primarily a northern thing, you use the word crisped to refer to either fried food or something that's been burned, ho or ho there is how you get someone's attention (as opposed to hey or oi), a coyote is an unethical business person or politician, you know and use quite a few Japanese words and a few Chinese, Greek, and Turkish ones, you probably use surfer slang if you live near the coast, and if you are from the south you say ciao instead of hello and goodbye and use Italian and Mexican slang commonly even if you aren't actually of Italian or Mexican ancestry. The British would find Vendalian accents rather casual and their word choice informal, and note that southerners speak a good bit faster than northerners. To a Vendalian, dressing up really nice is slacks, a monochrome botton up shirt, and maybe a tie, and a normal office environment would show a lot of jeans, henleys (very common shirt style in Vendalia), and polos. Some places are looser, but, while wearing shorts and flip flops to the office is a common stereotype of southerners, it is a minority of office jobs that actually allow that. Being asked to wear slacks to an office job every day would be quite weird and either British or northern sounding to a southerner and uncommon but not rare to a northerner. Northerners call southern work ethics lazy and southerners call northern work ethics hardass, while the British think they're all lazy, but those are just stereotypes. Denverites are southerners, but often resent that lable. Other southerners call them a bunch of vaquero obsessed loons who live in cities or suburbs while acting like ranchers, despite having no idea what to do with a horse. Denverites often think everybody else is soft and lazy, and resent everybody else assuming they are all reactionary and poorly educated. Compared to the British, Vendalians put more emphasis on extended family, with adult children often living at home for a while, even after getting full time employment. This is especially noticeable in the south, where you often don't move out of your parent's home until marriage (if you never marry, you might switch from your parents supporting you to you supporting your parents as they get older while staying in the same home, or you might move out as you approach middle age). In the south, it is expected that the elderly move in with their children after retirement or when they become widowed, and live in grandparents weild a lot of influence in childrearing. That said, Vendalia is also a dense country with a high rate of apartment and condo living, and the phrase "living with my parents" or "living with my children" very often means that you live in the apartment or condo next door or at least on the same floor, not that you actually live in the same housing unit. As a result of this system, it is common to see apartments and condoes that have interior doors to the units next to them so that families with adjacent units can treat multiple smaller units like one big family unit. In the north, this is less common, though certainly not unheard of. Round the Denver area, people are expected to be more independent, and children tend to move out sooner. The elderly do still commonly live with their children, though.
So, basically, it's good if a counterpart culture has something to contrast it with whatever culture it came from, but the similarities should still far outnumber the differences.

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Sissyl wrote:That might have been a matter of EU anti-monopoly regulations and not necessarily applicable to US releases... Or was that some other court case involving M$ Windows and its components?Sharoth wrote:~grumbles~ Thanks Microsoft. ~sighs~ So it appears the ever greedy Microsoft has not included a DVD media player with Windows 10. Theirs cost $15 and I refuse to pay that unless absolutely necessary. Can anyone suggest a good DVD player for Windows 10?Unless my memory fails me, Microsoft was forced NOT to include a media player in Windows by a high-up court decision. It... hardly seems fair to blame them.
I do not THINK this is true. ALthough I am no expert. :)
But on many media sites and I believe on Microsoft website itself, they said (Paraphrased) That they were discontinuing the Windows Media Center because of lack of use or interest by the public.
:P
I cry BS, because that is the ONLY thing about Microsoft that I liked. That the Media Center was fairly user friendly. That's what I use to burn CD's to my PC, or burn Cd's FROM the PC so I can play them in my car. So much easier than ITunes.

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Orthos wrote:That is fantastic :)Treppa wrote:For the love of all that is good and holy, why?Could be worse. Could be "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz".
OMG those are both,.... Yes! ;P
Treppa, That looks redonkulous, yet I'll bet you a Coke-Cola that if I shared that with a couple of people in the music department where I work, ONE of them would be trying to get it performed within the year! :P
And yes Limey, it COULD, I suppose, be worse. ;)
Although from reading onward, the provider of that piece sounds pretty cool.

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Quite often, people forget that inhabited North America is generally lower latitude than Northern Europe. Montreal is the same latitude as Venice and Milan, and Toronto is the same latitude as Florence. Chicago? Rome and Barcelona. New York City? Madrid and Naples. San Francisco? Athens (incidentally, also Seoul). London is north of any major Canadian or American city except Edmonton, as are pretty much all of Ireland and Scotland, Berlin, Amsterdam, Prague, and Warsaw. Paris and Zurich are further north than any major American city (though below Vancouver). The reason for this is the warm ocean waters of the gulf stream make Europe quite warm for its latitude by influencing weather patterns and surface temperatures.
This concludes our lesson.

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Quite often, people forget that inhabited North America is generally lower latitude than Northern Europe. Montreal is the same latitude as Venice and Milan, and Toronto is the same latitude as Florence. Chicago? Rome and Barcelona. New York City? Madrid and Naples. San Francisco? Athens (incidentally, also Seoul). London is north of any major Canadian or American city except Edmonton, as are pretty much all of Ireland and Scotland, Berlin, Amsterdam, Prague, and Warsaw. Paris and Zurich are further north than any major American city (though below Vancouver). The reason for this is the warm ocean waters of the gulf stream make Europe quite warm for its latitude by influencing weather patterns and surface temperatures.
This concludes our lesson.
~nervously raises my hand~ Ummmm... Professor Riveter. Will there be a quiz on this? I forgot to take notes.

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Quite often, people forget that inhabited North America is generally lower latitude than Northern Europe. Montreal is the same latitude as Venice and Milan, and Toronto is the same latitude as Florence. Chicago? Rome and Barcelona. New York City? Madrid and Naples. San Francisco? Athens (incidentally, also Seoul). London is north of any major Canadian or American city except Edmonton, as are pretty much all of Ireland and Scotland, Berlin, Amsterdam, Prague, and Warsaw. Paris and Zurich are further north than any major American city (though below Vancouver). The reason for this is the warm ocean waters of the gulf stream make Europe quite warm for its latitude by influencing weather patterns and surface temperatures.
This concludes our lesson.
Miss Riveter? My pen isn't working!

captain yesterday |
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Begins driving to New York with a fresh pen, then the car breaks down in Chicago (where all bad things happen to me), begins hitchhiking, spends three weeks disguised as a young Amish boy to evade Harrison Ford, loses virginity in a barn I just built, remembers mission after killing several thugs with various farm implements, arrives at New York after riding a plane, train, and vehicular conveyance with the ghost of John Candy. Delivers pen to who I assume is Freehold (next time I'll get his address first, and probably find a picture of)

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captain yesterday wrote:I hope the New York FaWtL Folks are well. :-)Why's that? The Penn Station shooting?
I'm still in bed at that hour.
same here, though I will have to pass that area later on today for second job. I'm sure the police have the situation well in hand, they're damn good at this sort of thing in that part of town, so I doubt any commute will be affected.

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Drejk wrote:Sissyl wrote:That might have been a matter of EU anti-monopoly regulations and not necessarily applicable to US releases... Or was that some other court case involving M$ Windows and its components?Sharoth wrote:~grumbles~ Thanks Microsoft. ~sighs~ So it appears the ever greedy Microsoft has not included a DVD media player with Windows 10. Theirs cost $15 and I refuse to pay that unless absolutely necessary. Can anyone suggest a good DVD player for Windows 10?Unless my memory fails me, Microsoft was forced NOT to include a media player in Windows by a high-up court decision. It... hardly seems fair to blame them.I do not THINK this is true. ALthough I am no expert. :)
But on many media sites and I believe on Microsoft website itself, they said (Paraphrased) That they were discontinuing the Windows Media Center because of lack of use or interest by the public.
:PI cry BS, because that is the ONLY thing about Microsoft that I liked. That the Media Center was fairly user friendly. That's what I use to burn CD's to my PC, or burn Cd's FROM the PC so I can play them in my car. So much easier than ITunes.
Nobody I know uses the Media Center/player so they probably aren't wrong. I use a community modified shareware player "media player classic" that has been updated with all the latest codexes.

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Celestial Healer wrote:same here, though I will have to pass that area later on today for second job. I'm sure the police have the situation well in hand, they're damn good at this sort of thing in that part of town, so I doubt any commute will be affected.captain yesterday wrote:I hope the New York FaWtL Folks are well. :-)Why's that? The Penn Station shooting?
I'm still in bed at that hour.
I went through Penn this morning around 9:00 and there was nothing unusual.
Penn gets some 600,000 rail passengers a day, excluding subway usage, so they get things running pretty quickly.