Montalve |
Snorter wrote:Found easier access infos. It's all about the easy access.Anyone here tried THIS GAME?
I'd have thought it was right up your alley (so to speak).
fear
i fear what i see and my eyes can unsee it!Snorter |
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Found easier access infos. It's all about the easy access.
So; you wearing a pair of those 'Old Prospector's Pants', with the door in the back?
Susan Draconis |
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Susan Draconis wrote:Found easier access infos. It's all about the easy access.So; you wearing a pair of those 'Old Prospector's Pants', with the door in the back?
Heck no. Skirts give the easiest access.
Wolf Munroe |
Wolf Munroe wrote:If that's a typo, it's the best typo ever.Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:One of Calistria's planar allies is a "hypersexualized chaos beast." What, other than tentacles, are we supposed to think about that, eh? ^.^Great. Now I'm really trying not to think about a hypersexualized chaos breast.
Was a typo but it's one I caught as soon as I typed it and decided to leave in anyway because hypersexualized chaos breasts are the best thing ever.
Who is that masked DM? |
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Snorter wrote:Heck no. Skirts give the easiest access.Susan Draconis wrote:Found easier access infos. It's all about the easy access.So; you wearing a pair of those 'Old Prospector's Pants', with the door in the back?
Susan...will you marry me? I mean, I'm no Dagon, but I do make a mean grilled salmon over rice pilaf.
I finally saw it. Now, I cannot unsee. I don't know what I did right, but I do know this game(and its' expansions) are my reward for a life well lived. Thank you, God.
Susan Draconis |
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Susan Draconis wrote:Snorter wrote:Heck no. Skirts give the easiest access.Susan Draconis wrote:Found easier access infos. It's all about the easy access.So; you wearing a pair of those 'Old Prospector's Pants', with the door in the back?Susan...will you marry me? I mean, I'm no Dagon, but I do make a mean grilled salmon over rice pilaf.
I finally saw it. Now, I cannot unsee. I don't know what I did right, but I do know this game(and its' expansions) are my reward for a life well lived. Thank you, God.
::pats Masked DM on the head:: Ooo how cute.
Susan Draconis |
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The choice as been made. Sister May Arkad of the church of Iomedae has fallen.
The Voice of Dagon came to her in an encounter with a giant squid, whispered sweet nothings in her ear. He told her how to destroy Iomedae's sword using the powers of pure chaos and madness, how to avoid the inevitable divine backlash, and where to seek out cultists of the True Faith. He gave her the tools to change, just as the Voice of Iomedae gave her the tools to stay the same.
The sword is sundered. The trumpet archons sounded their challenge, the hound archons tracked her down but in the end she evaded them the way Dagon bid her: she ran like heck to the ocean and dove in.
The Campaign Setting book mentions deep ones among Dagon's faithful. I have turned their mention into Nests. Stripped of all power save those granted her by knowledge and items May swam into the deep and dark to such a Nest.
Like Iomedae's suggested atonement, Dagon asked for both very little and all too much. Forever passed in a moment and she is now heavy with his child.
The other deities have quelled Iomedae's fury for now. She no longer attempts action through the throwing of archons at her wayward charge. No, her vengeance will be much more insidious, much harder to trace as the Mother Superior of Korvosa's Church of the Inheritor sends the products of her own wounded pride to track down and take revenge upon the heretic.
I look forward to the future.
KaeYoss |
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Can we get back on track, please? Fighting over real-world cultures and religions will get us nowhere except into afternoon detention. And don't think I won't spit paper into your hair with my self-made blowgun, because I totally will.
Anyway, as far as PF is concerned, what Christians, or Swedes, or the Lone Rangers, or anyone not in the game things about good, evil, order, and chaos, doesn't really matter.
And Pathfinder has the following to say about the matter:
Good Versus Evil
Good characters and creatures protect innocent life.[...]
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.
It may be just me, but that precludes good outsiders - lawful or otherwise - that just kill people without really good cause. And I still maintain that just being different isn't a really good cause.
Law Versus Chaos
Lawful characters tell the truth, keep their word, respect authority, honor tradition, and judge those who fall short of their duties.[...]
Law implies honor, trustworthiness, obedience to authority, and reliability. On the downside, lawfulness can include close-mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, judgmental, and a lack of adaptability. Those who consciously promote lawfulness say that only lawful behavior creates a society in which people can depend on each other and make the right decisions in full confidencethat others will act as they should.
While the whole judgemental and close-minded part might support a killing-because-they-are-different, there would still have to be a law about it, and they would still have to consider it honourable.
And that's not even taking the combined alignment into consideration yet....
Lawful Good, Crusader: A lawful good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act. She combines a commitment to oppose evil with the discipline to fight relentlessly. She tells the truth, keeps her word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice. A lawful good character hates to see the guilty go unpunished.
Lawful good is the best alignment you can be because it combines honor and compassion.
That first sentence I feel is the most important here: They act as a good person is required to act. That means they have their principles from good (the self-sacrifice and respect for life) and their lawful aspects make them really stick to it.
Wolf Munroe |
Can we get back on track, please? Fighting over real-world cultures and religions will get us nowhere except into afternoon detention.
I think you replied to the wrong thread. This one is about tentacles and a falling/fallen cleric.
Did I mention tentacles? Your reply looks like it's intended for the angels and good outsiders thread.
Susan Draconis |
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KaeYoss wrote:Can we get back on track, please? Fighting over real-world cultures and religions will get us nowhere except into afternoon detention.I think you replied to the wrong thread. This one is about tentacles and a falling/fallen cleric.
Did I mention tentacles? Your reply looks like it's intended for the angels and good outsiders thread.
Maybe KaeYoss's post has some significance. If said KaeYoss can tie alignment issues to the actions of differently aligned tentacles during a hentacle attack. Gotta admit, that would be an interesting discussion.
Snorter |
Should we flag it to get it removed?
It was a response to people being obtuse, pedantic asshats on the 'Should Angels routinely slaughter whole nations of good people for being slightly non-conformist' thread.
For me, it interferes with the whole pervy goodness of the rest of this thread. I was just getting to the vinegar-strokes, and it's like getting a mental image of your gran, wagging her finger at you.
Jordan Fenix |
nah
its a good reference for another player i have
and terrific story that of the poor sister know become follower of the Deep One
as a priestess of Iomedaei hope our justices smacks her... now can i have the sword reforged by the elves for my personal use and so i can be called Queen when i return to the realm?
Susan Draconis |
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nah
its a good reference for another player i haveand terrific story that of the poor sister know become follower of the Deep One
as a priestess of Iomedaei hope our justices smacks her... now can i have the sword reforged by the elves for my personal use and so i can be called Queen when i return to the realm?
I have a feeling that one among the pack of hound archons Iomedae had to call off from searching has picked up the pieces of the shattered sword. It will be reforged when Sauron awakens again, I mean, when need of it arises.
Jordan Fenix |
Jordan Fenix wrote:I have a feeling that one among the pack of hound archons Iomedae had to call off from searching has picked up the pieces of the shattered sword. It will be reforged when Sauron awakens again, I mean, when need of it arises.nah
its a good reference for another player i haveand terrific story that of the poor sister know become follower of the Deep One
as a priestess of Iomedaei hope our justices smacks her... now can i have the sword reforged by the elves for my personal use and so i can be called Queen when i return to the realm?
lol next AP to ask for justice for her previous "owner" crimes?
i appoint myself for such carrying of justice!Susan Draconis |
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So I guess I have a hypothetical question. Say a band of adventurers saved your city of Korvosa, deposed your queen, aided in the placing of a new ruler on the throne (despite rumors that the new king is a rakshasa), and the city now enters a new Golden Age of power, trade, influence, and all those good things for making people rich enough to afford the many vices that the new king allows (and finances). This is a lawful neutral city so if the king says it's okay then it must not be so bad.
But say you were Just a Commoner. Your brother lost his arm and nearly his life in building stupid monuments for the deposed queen. The church of Asmodeus demanded you pay for his healing in blood. And the adventurers stopped that, saved the both of you. Life is now looking up, trade is bustling, the city is repopulating, you even handled your first ever Gold Piece recently thanks to the efforts of these adventurers.
And then you see a paladin, a supposed bastion of everything that is good and just. A paladin who had stayed quiet like the rest of his fellows during the queen's rule, citing that she was lawful ruler and they could thus do nothing to stop her. A paladin who is at the moment stabbing one of the heroic adventurers in the back, without warning, while screaming to the skies and streets that this adventurer is a "heretical demon-worshiping whore unworthy of even speaking the Inheritor's name".
What do you do?
Susan Draconis |
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Susan Draconis wrote:Jordan Fenix wrote:I have a feeling that one among the pack of hound archons Iomedae had to call off from searching has picked up the pieces of the shattered sword. It will be reforged when Sauron awakens again, I mean, when need of it arises.nah
its a good reference for another player i haveand terrific story that of the poor sister know become follower of the Deep One
as a priestess of Iomedaei hope our justices smacks her... now can i have the sword reforged by the elves for my personal use and so i can be called Queen when i return to the realm?
lol next AP to ask for justice for her previous "owner" crimes?
i appoint myself for such carrying of justice!
You'll have your work cut out for you. I'm altering Second Darkness to work for high level play and we're continuing with these characters. By the time that's done Poor Evil Cleric will be about powerful enough to act as the big boss of an AP.
::tempts writers:: 20th level cleric of Dagon... has her own nest of deep ones... mother to a half-fiend... wants to sink all the lowlands of Varisia beneath the waves...
Littlest Elder God |
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The 6th Act of Iomidae was grappling with dagon without losing her virtue.
What?! She said she wasn't going to write about that! I was drunk, I tell you. She never told me her alignment. You have no idea how pissed Aroden was the next morning when he came to pick her up.
Oh, and she lied about not losing her virtue. Turns out she was good. Very good.
Montalve |
You'll have your work cut out for you. I'm altering Second Darkness to work for high level play and we're continuing with these characters. By the time that's done Poor Evil Cleric will be about powerful enough to act as the big boss of an AP.
::tempts writers:: 20th level cleric of Dagon... has her own nest of deep ones... mother to a half-fiend... wants to sink all the lowlands of Varisia beneath the waves...
je nice ! that sounds interesting
mmm about the eearlier question... i think they made a mob to bring down the paladins... unless the "heretic" shows really appareance of some devil kin
but in Korvosa that might be acceptable
Jordan Fenix |
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Teach wrote:The 6th Act of Iomidae was grappling with dagon without losing her virtue.What?! She said she wasn't going to write about that! I was drunk, I tell you. She never told me her alignment. You have no idea how pissed Aroden was the next morning when he came to pick her up.
Oh, and she lied about not losing her virtue. Turns out she was good. Very good.
liar liar!
how could you rememebr if you where drunk?
Littlest Elder God |
Littlest Elder God wrote:Teach wrote:The 6th Act of Iomidae was grappling with dagon without losing her virtue.What?! She said she wasn't going to write about that! I was drunk, I tell you. She never told me her alignment. You have no idea how pissed Aroden was the next morning when he came to pick her up.
Oh, and she lied about not losing her virtue. Turns out she was good. Very good.
liar liar!
how could you rememebr if you where drunk?
I wasn't that drunk, just drunk enough that I couldn't fly my byakhee straight. And she looked really hot in all that form-fitting plate armor.
What can I say? I fall easy for girls who want to show me their chain mail bikinis.
Susan Draconis |
Susan Draconis wrote:You'll have your work cut out for you. I'm altering Second Darkness to work for high level play and we're continuing with these characters. By the time that's done Poor Evil Cleric will be about powerful enough to act as the big boss of an AP.
::tempts writers:: 20th level cleric of Dagon... has her own nest of deep ones... mother to a half-fiend... wants to sink all the lowlands of Varisia beneath the waves...
je nice ! that sounds interesting
mmm about the eearlier question... i think they made a mob to bring down the paladins... unless the "heretic" shows really appareance of some devil kin
but in Korvosa that might be acceptable
Hmm, wears snakeskin, has Celestial Armor, is pregnant... Nothing really jumps out as fiendish. She keeps her unholy symbol covered in town.
Well the newly-reformed Korvosan Guard took the paladin away. And the crown has used this incident to require that all paladins register with the Guard and the reformed Sable Company (headed by a wererat now).
Jordan Fenix |
Jordan Fenix wrote:Oh no, you don't even start giving those above ideas! I get enough grief as it is, and you know your lot wouldn't be better than mine.nah
its a good reference for another player i have
lol i meant the lawful and good and lawful good cruzader reference :P
not the tentacles :PMontalve |
Hmm, wears snakeskin, has Celestial Armor, is pregnant... Nothing really jumps out as fiendish. She keeps her unholy symbol covered in town.
Well the newly-reformed Korvosan Guard took the paladin away. And the crown has used this incident to require that all paladins register with the Guard and the reformed Sable Company (headed by a wererat now).
damn! pretty much understandable...
damn! err he should have attacked her from the front... or show her as the evil monster she is...being LG and paladin is not always requiered to include being intelligent... sight
and yes most players Paladins are like that... :P
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Wolf Munroe wrote:Maybe KaeYoss's post has some significance. If said KaeYoss can tie alignment issues to the actions of differently aligned tentacles during a hentacle attack. Gotta admit, that would be an interesting discussion.KaeYoss wrote:Can we get back on track, please? Fighting over real-world cultures and religions will get us nowhere except into afternoon detention.I think you replied to the wrong thread. This one is about tentacles and a falling/fallen cleric.
Did I mention tentacles? Your reply looks like it's intended for the angels and good outsiders thread.
True story:
KaeYoss |
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I wasn't that drunk, just drunk enough that I couldn't fly my byakhee straight.
Leave your bukkake out of this.
KaeYoss wrote:Was this for the Ask A Shoanti Thread? Because if it was, the answer is "Kill, Rape, Pillage". In that order.
I could make it so...
Wait, aren't you supposed to rape before you kill? Like how you're supposed to pillage before you burn.
The raping and killing is usually done to different people. (Take care not to confuse those two groups)
Anyway, I think the correct term is ravish. It's technically like rape, but there are fewer complaints.
Montalve |
Littlest Elder God wrote:Leave your bukkake out of this.
I wasn't that drunk, just drunk enough that I couldn't fly my byakhee straight.
thanks, yes no bukkake, please!
Susan Draconis wrote:KaeYoss wrote:Was this for the Ask A Shoanti Thread? Because if it was, the answer is "Kill, Rape, Pillage". In that order.
I could make it so...
Wait, aren't you supposed to rape before you kill? Like how you're supposed to pillage before you burn.
The raping and killing is usually done to different people. (Take care not to confuse those two groups)
Anyway, I think the correct term is ravish. It's technically like rape, but there are fewer complaints.
ahh the Titus Pullo policy for a good life "i kill my enemies, take their gold and rape their women"
a summary for a good life... for a Roman soldier at least :P
but many adventures partake on this
KaeYoss |
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Hm... now that I think of it (and have gained maddening insights from this thread), they never tell us what exactly the Eleven Acts of Iomedae were. Maybe it's not about what she did, but who! There's always more than one way for people to climb the career ladder, including the one where you climb it lying on your back. ;-)
Littlest Elder God |
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Littlest Elder God wrote:Leave your bukkake out of this.
I wasn't that drunk, just drunk enough that I couldn't fly my byakhee straight.
Got a thing against leather-winged birds? They're great for interdimensional travel.
Besides, bukkake means there's a hole not being filled and we all know that all holes must be filled.
Susan Draconis |
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Hm... now that I think of it (and have gained maddening insights from this thread), they never tell us what exactly the Eleven Acts of Iomedae were. Maybe it's not about what she did, but who! There's always more than one way for people to climb the career ladder, including the one where you climb it lying on your back. ;-)
Yeah but from what I hear that lowers the glass ceiling to demidiety status. Unless of course your sugar-daddy dies randomly (or not so randomly, heh) and you immediately rise to take his portfolio.
Susan Draconis |
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KaeYoss wrote:The raping and killing is usually done to different people. (Take care not to confuse those two groups)Damn! So it actually was kill their cows and rape their women? Excuse me while I go get a new pillaging manual... and a doctor.
I recommend Pillage Before Your Burn by Vic the Viking. Lots of good tips.
Jordan Fenix |
Montalve, are you just gonna let that go? What kind of Paladin are you?!
ohh i wasn't aroun, you are right i can't let this pass... also i am a cleric.. so i am even more aggresiveabout talks about Dogma!
Hm... now that I think of it (and have gained maddening insights from this thread), they never tell us what exactly the Eleven Acts of Iomedae were. Maybe it's not about what she did, but who! There's always more than one way for people to climb the career ladder, including the one where you climb it lying on your back. ;-)
HERETIC! *grabs her sword and gets ready get medieval on the creepy clown*
well at least 2 Acts are know... 1) is helping kick Tar-Baphon's ass; 2) Surviving and passing the Star Stone Test...
the others... infidel you do not deserve to know them! and all truths would be revealed in time!
while i do believe she did great acts... i can imagine in my sick mind that kind of corporative climbing... i just won't agree in her always lying on her back... maybe with Aroden... but i see her as being the one in charge and in top riding, she IS the Paladin Goddess after all :P
KaeYoss wrote:Hm... now that I think of it (and have gained maddening insights from this thread), they never tell us what exactly the Eleven Acts of Iomedae were. Maybe it's not about what she did, but who! There's always more than one way for people to climb the career ladder, including the one where you climb it lying on your back. ;-)Yeah but from what I hear that lowers the glass ceiling to demidiety status. Unless of course your sugar-daddy dies randomly (or not so randomly, heh) and you immediately rise to take his portfolio.
what are you trying to imply... dear? *getting sword ready to even more shopping*
Bellona |
The raping and killing is usually done to different people. (Take care not to confuse those two groups)
Damn! So it actually was kill their cows and rape their women? Excuse me while I go get a new pillaging manual... and a doctor.
I recommend Pillage Before Your Burn by Vic the Viking. Lots of good tips.
Was it by any chance written by the relative of a certain Eric (with a "c", not a "k")? :)
Dogbert |
well at least 2 Acts are know... 1) is helping kick Tar-Baphon's ass; 2) Surviving and passing the Star Stone Test...
the others... infidel you do not deserve to know them! and all truths would be revealed in time!
*insert typical 'BowChikaWoWoW' jingle*
"All truths will be revealed in time, and oh what revealing truths! Don't be left out and reserve your copy of "The Acts of Iomedae: Aroden's Cut" now! On DVD! Pre-sale limited to 500 units."
Susan Draconis |
Susan Draconis wrote:what are you trying to imply... dear? *getting sword ready to even more shopping*KaeYoss wrote:Hm... now that I think of it (and have gained maddening insights from this thread), they never tell us what exactly the Eleven Acts of Iomedae were. Maybe it's not about what she did, but who! There's always more than one way for people to climb the career ladder, including the one where you climb it lying on your back. ;-)Yeah but from what I hear that lowers the glass ceiling to demidiety status. Unless of course your sugar-daddy dies randomly (or not so randomly, heh) and you immediately rise to take his portfolio.
Just sayin' Aroden wasn't exactly careful with his previous herald Arazni. If he'd really been respectful and loyal she'd never have been liched into becoming the Harlot Queen of Geb. There's got to be some reason Aroden replaced her with Iomedae so quickly and so totally. And not just her skills with the longsword.
Perhaps the, ahem, staff?
Just having fun poking at this. The Paizoians left too many dangling threads in their world not to try and tie them in knots.