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One Thousandth Post :-)

Will get right to updating Johnnie. The week's just been very busy for me.


Radavel wrote:

One Thousandth Post :-)

Will get right to updating Johnnie. The week's just been very busy for me.

Flash. Moth! Is there a HTH for beating something with a rifle or shotgun stock?

Just asking because I don't think a anybody wants to fire their guns. All Johnnie has is a scalpel

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Male Mothman Expert 5

A rifle butt effectively acts as a two handed club; 1d6 base damage, crits on 20, bludgeoning. Pistol whip is similar but one handed and does 1d4 damage.

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Mothman wrote:
A rifle butt effectively acts as a two handed club; 1d6 base damage, crits on 20, bludgeoning. Pistol whip is similar but one handed and does 1d4 damage.

Pretty much what Moth said. :)


Kruelaid wrote:
Dave Judd wrote:
Holy f*ckin’ sh*t!

Nice...

Man I am totally digging this: Jambi

2 more months and I can set up my (insanely powerful) stereo again. My god. It's been 9 years.

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Kruel, I have everything but my Skills levelled.

I do have a Question regarding Skills though. I know (at my suggestion) we're Pathfinderizing the way we distribute Ranks and such, but are we also Pathfinderizing the remaining amalgamated Skills? eg. Balance/Jump/Tumble into Acrobatics...
Also, are we going to do Concentration the way Pathfinder does it now instead of as a Skill?

If so, the List of Skills would now look like this:
Acrobatics
Bluff
Climb
Computer Use
Craft(s)
Demolitions
Diplomacy
Disable Device
Disguise
Drive
Escape Artist
Forgery
Gamble
Gather Information
Handle Animal
Intimidate
Investigate
Jump
Knowledge(s)
Linguistics
Navigate
Perception
Perform
Pilot
Profession
Repair
Research
Ride
Search
Sense Motive
Sleight of Hand
Stealth
Survival
Swim
Treat Injury

Note: I did consider rolling Gather Information and Investigate into one Skill (probably called Investigate) but since they use different Ability Scores (GI=CHA and I=INT) I didn't. As GM, feel free to override me and combine them using whatever Ability you deem appropriate). :)

Cheers


I think for the purposes of this game here gather information and investigate can be the same skill--just because we're not going to be running a forensics lab here and that's the only thing I can think of that would distinguish the two.

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Kruelaid wrote:
I think for the purposes of this game here gather information and investigate can be the same skill--just because we're not going to be running a forensics lab here and that's the only thing I can think of that would distinguish the two.

Cool. Put it under INT? I figure you still have to know where to Gather the Information and figuring that out is INT based...


flash_cxxi wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
I think for the purposes of this game here gather information and investigate can be the same skill--just because we're not going to be running a forensics lab here and that's the only thing I can think of that would distinguish the two.
Cool. Put it under INT? I figure you still have to know where to Gather the Information and figuring that out is INT based...

Seems right thinkin' to me.


Kruelaid wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
I think for the purposes of this game here gather information and investigate can be the same skill--just because we're not going to be running a forensics lab here and that's the only thing I can think of that would distinguish the two.
Cool. Put it under INT? I figure you still have to know where to Gather the Information and figuring that out is INT based...
Seems right thinkin' to me.

I think in cases where persuasion and social interaction are crucial to getting the info you could get situational bonuses for high CHA... or penalties for low CHA.

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Kruelaid wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:
Cool. Put it under INT? I figure you still have to know where to Gather the Information and figuring that out is INT based...
Seems right thinkin' to me.
I think in cases where persuasion and social interaction are crucial to getting the info you could get situational bonuses for high CHA... or penalties for low CHA.

That sounds fair enough.

Also...

Sam is fully up to date and I even transferred her stats over to the latest update of my PbP Character Sheet.
Only real Skills that changed was I threw Max Ranks into Perception and a couple of Skills got bumped up 'cause of the Pathfinder +3 to Class Skills.
Apparently I hadn't updated her BAB from 2nd level though, so she's been attacking at a disadvantage for some time now... :/
Also added in an Ammunition Tracker under each of my Weapons. I'm just gonna throw a couple of used into each, except for the FN and the Beowulf. Beowulf I'm gonna use half ('cause I fire it a lot) and FN I haven't used yet, so it's at full capacity.

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Holy Crap on a Popsicle Stick!

Do you have a death wish or what Pat...

We all fall back and you stay strong and take the horde on by yourself... O.o


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flash_cxxi wrote:

Holy Crap on a Popsicle Stick!

Do you have a death wish or what Pat...

We all fall back and you stay strong and take the horde on by yourself... O.o

I am armored, and I don't have a silenced weapon. I'll be the bait, you lot fillem' fulla lead ... ;)


Heads are gonna roll.


Good reading...


Yes, I knew it could be true from the moment I cooked this up.


And if cracked agrees with me... how could I be wrong?


Cord is updated, I think.

He seems to have a lot of feats listed as Bonus feat, you must of been feeling generous as I got two at level 3.

His stat line is now:

Cord: LVL 4, INIT +2, PER +7, AC 21*(Dodge and Defensive Martial Arts not included) HP 34 (-26), ACTION not assigned

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I'm not going to be around computers very much for the next week or so. I thought I would have internet at my apartment by today, but the cable company is jerking me around. Feel free to DMPC Mike. Sorry about this.


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No problem Shiny.

For everyone else watching Sarge and thinking... "f#+@ I need to get a sword":

Just down the street from the hospital. Really.

Their website.


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Kruelaid wrote:
Just down the street from the hospital. Really.

I love the way you make that sound like a pleasant stroll down sun dappled streets.


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BTW, good character tension between Cord and Sarge ADMaE!


All DMs are evil wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
Just down the street from the hospital. Really.

I love the way you make that sound like a pleasant stroll down sun dappled streets.

How about this: Cord's wife was head nurse one floor up in the palliative oncology unit. She probably left a note for you. Go check. What could happen?


dotsky

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Kruelaid wrote:
dotsky

Trotsky...


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flash_cxxi wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
dotsky
Trotsky...

Tchotchkes


Most current soundtrack

DISC 1:
01 - David Bowie - "Space Oddity"
02 - Peter Schilling - "Major Tom"
03 - Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
04 - Motorhead - "Killed by Death"
05 - Motorhead - "Ace of Spades"
06 - Dead Milkmen - "B@*&#in' Camaro"
07 - Megadeth - "Angry Again"
08 - Slayer - "Dead Skin Mask"
09 - Anthrax - "Got the Time"
10 - Cake - "The Distance"
11 - Motorhead - "Orgasmitron"
12 - Cake - "Comfort Eagle"
13 - Pink Floyd - "Run Like Hell"
14 - Johnny Cash - "God's Gonna Cut You Down"

DISC 2:
01 - Hank Williams Jr. - "A Country Boy Can Survive"
02 - Hank Williams III - "Pills I Took"
03 - Black Flag - "Revenge"
04 - Black Flag - "Nervous Breakdown"
05 - Rammstein - "Moskau"
06 - Stryper - "I Believe in You"
07 - Katrina and the Waves - "Walking on Sunshine"
08 - Carter USM - "Bloodsport for All"
09 - Megadeth - "Sweating Bullets"
10 - MSI - "Stupid MF"
11 - Queen - "Don't Stop Me Now"
12 - MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
13 - Metallica - "Disposable Heroes"
14 - The Brood - "Blood of Cuchulainn (Boondock Saints theme)"

DISC 3:
01 - System of a Down - "Aerials"
02 - Tool - "Prison Sex"
03 - Tool - "Aenema"
04 - Tomoya Ohtani - "Radical Train (The Chase)"
05 - Lunatic Calm - "Leave You Far Behind"
06 - The Prodigy - "Firestarter"
07 - The Prodigy - "Smack My B@$+* Up (DJ Blitz remix)"
08 - Daft Punk - "Technologic"
09 - KMFDM - "Anarchy"
10 - The Workhorse Movement - "Keep the Sabbath Dream Alive"
11 - Tom Waits - "Going Out West"
12 - Tom Waits - "God's Away on Business"
13 - Black Flag - "Rise Above"
14 - Rollins Band - "Volume 4"

DISC 4:
01 - Dope - "Die MF Die"
02 - Black Flag - "My War"
03 - Iggy Pop - "Repo Man"
04 - Dany Janssen - "Tell Me, Tell Me"
05 - KMFDM - "WWIII"
06 - The Chemical Brothers - "Leave Home"
07 - Wang Fei - "Bored"
08 - Suicidal Tendencies - "Institutionalized"
09 - Marilyn Manson - "Tainted Love"
10 - Rob Zombie - "Living Dead Girl"
11 - Iron Maiden - "Run to the Hills"
12 - Metric - "Monster Hospital"
13 - GTRONIC - "Destroyer"
14 - Dax Riggs - "Wall of Death"

DISC 5:
01 - Tool - "Rosetta Stoned"
03 - Novadriver - "Bury me Alive"
02 - Killing Joke - "The Death and Resurrection Show"


Most current soundtrack

DISC 1:
01 - David Bowie - "Space Oddity"
02 - Peter Schilling - "Major Tom"
03 - Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
04 - Motorhead - "Killed by Death"
05 - Motorhead - "Ace of Spades"
06 - Dead Milkmen - "B@*&#in' Camaro"
07 - Megadeth - "Angry Again"
08 - Slayer - "Dead Skin Mask"
09 - Anthrax - "Got the Time"
10 - Cake - "The Distance"
11 - Motorhead - "Orgasmitron"
12 - Cake - "Comfort Eagle"
13 - Pink Floyd - "Run Like Hell"
14 - Johnny Cash - "God's Gonna Cut You Down"

DISC 2:
01 - Hank Williams Jr. - "A Country Boy Can Survive"
02 - Hank Williams III - "Pills I Took"
03 - Black Flag - "Revenge"
04 - Black Flag - "Nervous Breakdown"
05 - Rammstein - "Moskau"
06 - Stryper - "I Believe in You"
07 - Katrina and the Waves - "Walking on Sunshine"
08 - Carter USM - "Bloodsport for All"
09 - Megadeth - "Sweating Bullets"
10 - MSI - "Stupid MF"
11 - Queen - "Don't Stop Me Now"
12 - MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
13 - Metallica - "Disposable Heroes"
14 - The Brood - "Blood of Cuchulainn (Boondock Saints theme)"

DISC 3:
01 - System of a Down - "Aerials"
02 - Tool - "Prison Sex"
03 - Tool - "Aenema"
04 - Tomoya Ohtani - "Radical Train (The Chase)"
05 - Lunatic Calm - "Leave You Far Behind"
06 - The Prodigy - "Firestarter"
07 - The Prodigy - "Smack My B@$+* Up (DJ Blitz remix)"
08 - Daft Punk - "Technologic"
09 - KMFDM - "Anarchy"
10 - The Workhorse Movement - "Keep the Sabbath Dream Alive"
11 - Tom Waits - "Going Out West"
12 - Tom Waits - "God's Away on Business"
13 - Black Flag - "Rise Above"
14 - Rollins Band - "Volume 4"

DISC 4:
01 - Dope - "Die MF Die"
02 - Black Flag - "My War"
03 - Iggy Pop - "Repo Man"
04 - Dany Janssen - "Tell Me, Tell Me"
05 - KMFDM - "WWIII"
06 - The Chemical Brothers - "Leave Home"
07 - Wang Fei - "Bored"
08 - Suicidal Tendencies - "Institutionalized"
09 - Marilyn Manson - "Tainted Love"
10 - Rob Zombie - "Living Dead Girl"
11 - Iron Maiden - "Run to the Hills"
12 - Metric - "Monster Hospital"
13 - GTRONIC - "Destroyer"
14 - Dax Riggs - "Wall of Death"

DISC 5:
01 - Tool - "Rosetta Stoned"
03 - Novadriver - "Bury me Alive"
02 - Killing Joke - "The Death and Resurrection Show"
03 - Pop Will Eat Itself - "Everything is Cool"

Liberty's Edge

How many action points do our characters get per level? I was under the impression that there were just a few "tiers," and that they only replenished their action point pool when they gained a level (which is why Mike only has 5 action points). Are you making them cumulative?

Liberty's Edge

Fixed & updated soundtrack:

Spoiler:
The Z-Day Soundtrack

DISC 1:
01 - David Bowie - "Space Oddity"
02 - Peter Schilling - "Major Tom"
03 - Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
04 - Motorhead - "Killed by Death"
05 - Motorhead - "Ace of Spades"
06 - Dead Milkmen - "B&*@&in' Camaro"
07 - Megadeth - "Angry Again"
08 - Slayer - "Dead Skin Mask"
09 - Anthrax - "Got the Time"
10 - Cake - "The Distance"
11 - Motorhead - "Orgasmitron"
12 - Cake - "Comfort Eagle"
13 - Pink Floyd - "Run Like Hell"
14 - Johnny Cash - "God's Gonna Cut You Down"

DISC 2:
01 - Hank Williams Jr. - "A Country Boy Can Survive"
02 - Hank Williams III - "Pills I Took"
03 - Black Flag - "Revenge"
04 - Black Flag - "Nervous Breakdown"
05 - Rammstein - "Moskau"
06 - Stryper - "I Believe in You"
07 - Katrina and the Waves - "Walking on Sunshine"
08 - Carter USM - "Bloodsport for All"
09 - Megadeth - "Sweating Bullets"
10 - MSI - "Stupid MF"
11 - Queen - "Don't Stop Me Now"
12 - MC5 - "Kick Out the Jams"
13 - Metallica - "Disposable Heroes"
14 - The Brood - "Blood of Cuchulainn (Boondock Saints theme)"

DISC 3:
01 - System of a Down - "Aerials"
02 - Tool - "Prison Sex"
03 - Tool - "Aenema"
04 - Tomoya Ohtani - "Radical Train (The Chase)"
05 - Lunatic Calm - "Leave You Far Behind"
06 - The Prodigy - "Firestarter"
07 - The Prodigy - "Smack My B@!#@ Up (DJ Blitz remix)"
08 - Daft Punk - "Technologic"
09 - KMFDM - "Anarchy"
10 - The Workhorse Movement - "Keep the Sabbath Dream Alive"
11 - Tom Waits - "Going Out West"
12 - Tom Waits - "God's Away on Business"
13 - Black Flag - "Rise Above"
14 - Rollins Band - "Volume 4"

DISC 4:
01 - Dope - "Die MF Die"
02 - Black Flag - "My War"
03 - Iggy Pop - "Repo Man"
04 - Dany Janssen - "Tell Me, Tell Me"
05 - KMFDM - "WWIII"
06 - The Chemical Brothers - "Leave Home"
07 - Wang Fei - "Bored"
08 - Suicidal Tendencies - "Institutionalized"
09 - Marilyn Manson - "Tainted Love"
10 - Rob Zombie - "Living Dead Girl"
11 - Iron Maiden - "Run to the Hills"
12 - Dead Kennedys - "Police Truck"
13 - Beck - "Loser"
14 - Alex Lloyd - "My Way Home"

DISC 5:
01 - Mastodon - "The Wolf is Loose"
02 - Deep Purple - "Smoke on the Water"
03 - Iggy Pop and the Stooges - "Search and Destroy"
04 - Mike Watt - "Liberty Calls"
05 - Coheed & Cambria - "Blood Red Summer"
06 - Metallica - "The Call of Ktulu"
07 - Metallica - "Seek and Destroy"
08 - John Lee Hooker - "Boom Boom Boom"
09 - Marilyn Manson - "Resident Evil theme"
10 - Metric - "Monster Hospital"
11 - Captain Clegg and the Night Creatures - "Zombie A Go-Go"
12 - GTRONIC - "Destroyer"
13 - Dax Riggs - "Wall of Death"
14 - Metallica - "For Whom The Bell Tolls"

DISC 5:
01 - Tool - "Rosetta Stoned"
02 - Rob Zombie - "Living Dead Girl (Subliminal Seduction mix)"
03 - Novadriver - "Bury Me Alive"
04 - Killing Joke - "Death and Resurrection Show"
05 - Pop Will Eat Itself - "Everything is Cool"
06 - The Kooks - "Crazy"
07 - Rollins Band - "The End of Something"
08 - Hollywood Undead - "Undead"
09 - Dropkick Murphys - "Pipe Bomb on Landsdowne"


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
How many action points do our characters get per level? I was under the impression that there were just a few "tiers," and that they only replenished their action point pool when they gained a level (which is why Mike only has 5 action points). Are you making them cumulative?

I think you roll 1d6 per level up until level 6, then it's 2d6.


Were we making a movie here, I think a freerunning scene, no sound just this music would be a total gas.


Kruelaid wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
How many action points do our characters get per level? I was under the impression that there were just a few "tiers," and that they only replenished their action point pool when they gained a level (which is why Mike only has 5 action points). Are you making them cumulative?
I think you roll 1d6 per level up until level 6, then it's 2d6.

That is how much the Action Points add to a roll, not how many you get per level.

I can't remember us having action points before.


All DMs are evil wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
How many action points do our characters get per level? I was under the impression that there were just a few "tiers," and that they only replenished their action point pool when they gained a level (which is why Mike only has 5 action points). Are you making them cumulative?
I think you roll 1d6 per level up until level 6, then it's 2d6.

That is how much the Action Points add to a roll, not how many you get per level.

I can't remember us having action points before.

So they should be listed with the character classes then. Nobody even used any until recently I think.

In any event, you've got lots of them because you haven't used them.


of coure D&D wiki MSRD is down...

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Kruelaid wrote:
All DMs are evil wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
How many action points do our characters get per level? I was under the impression that there were just a few "tiers," and that they only replenished their action point pool when they gained a level (which is why Mike only has 5 action points). Are you making them cumulative?
I think you roll 1d6 per level up until level 6, then it's 2d6.

That is how much the Action Points add to a roll, not how many you get per level.

I can't remember us having action points before.

So they should be listed with the character classes then. Nobody even used any until recently I think.

In any event, you've got lots of them because you haven't used them.

Yeah, Action Points are listed under each Character Class. Every Class gets 5 + 1/2 their Character Level at every Level and they are cumulative. Dave's really the only one who's used any on a regular basis (I think others have used one or two here and there).


Another MSRD site, good navigation.


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Hmm. I thought I had calculated mine correctly. I'll have to recheck. I think I estimated 18. I don't think I've used any, but that's gonna change I think....


Close Combat Shot [General]
Prerequisites: Point Blank Shot
Benefit: You can make a ranged attack with a light, ranged weapon while in a threatened area without provoking an attack of opportunity.


House rule time

I just read weapon finesse... why is uber secret secret.

Anyone out there who wants me to expand weapon finesse to MSRD weapon groups? Right now you take it for each weapon type.

I intend to apply it to weapon groups:

Archaic Melee Weapons
Exotic Melee Weapons
Improvised Weapons
Melee Weapons Table
Simple Melee Weapons

Yah, that means you can have finesse with all improvised weapons... isn't that totally cool?

Also

Also Evil DM, Axe should probably be archaic, not simple. A fire axe has a pick and a blade, it's not just a frickin cleaver. I don't know whats with that...

Also, a cleaver does not do 1d6. It's 1d4. THe thing is a damn knife.

And a katana does not do 2d6. It's like T.A.D. wrote Modern Core... Owen Stephens. Jeez. There is no katana. Get a long sword or a two handed sword. Then call it a katana or a nodachi or whatever those are called.

And a chainsaw does not do 3d6. Thank you texas chainsaw massacre. I know a guy who took a chainsaw to the leg landscaping; it was no worse I reckon than what a good sword would do. Probably less. It's all gore and show because it usually just shreds the surface tissue. I'll give it 2d6 cuz it's a zombie game.


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Kruelaid wrote:

And a chainsaw does not do 3d6. Thank you texas chainsaw massacre. I know a guy who took a chainsaw to the leg landscaping; it was no worse I reckon than what a good sword would do. Probably less. It's all gore and show because it usually just shreds the surface tissue. I'll give it 2d6 cuz it's a zombie game.

I hate chainsaws. Anyone who has used one on a regular basis knows how b!tchy they are. All I can see is hitting a Z's leg with one and the chain coming off the track. O.o Gimme a Heckler and Koch any day.


Weapon groups could also break down according Pathfinder weapon groups...


And are there any other rules like this?

Liberty's Edge

Action points are fixed: Mike has a maximum action point total of 24, and he's used a few so far during the game. I'm going to ballpark his current action point total at 20.


Roger that.

Liberty's Edge

My life seems to be normalizing (by half measures, but what the f#@+ can you do), so I should be back on a more regular posting schedule.


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I am seriously ganked until the weekend (but I might have the 4th off in entirety. Of course, my lawn is a disaster =( )

Nice crit on the GMPC K


note to self: do not lose passport and credit cards while in foreign country.

Liberty's Edge

Sorry I was gone so long--I was in a bad jam. If you want an explanation, send me a private message on FB.


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Guys, taking a small sabbatical from posting. I'm not quite sure how long, but please GMPC my character as needs be. I'll see you aruond sometime.

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