48 is an issue I'm just in love with. All the little characterization snippets that got worked into people's postures and actions (and votes!) during the tryouts were awesome.
Sun Boy returns. Projectra smacks her fist angrily (since he's been chumming around with the team that destroyed her world and killed her people). Phantom Girl, Colossal Boy, Light Lass and Star Boy all stand up to greet Sun Boy, excitedly, which seems to fit their characterizations in this 'boot' as the four friendliest and most outgoing Legionnaires. (And, in the process, Gim rests his hand on Brainy's shoulder, with Brainy giving it a withering glance, as if an animal had crawled onto his shoulder and died. Heh.)
The picture of Phantom Girl and Saturn Girl discussing what's up with the Princess at the end of the book is, I think, one of the prettiest pictures of Phantom Girl we've seen in years. For a throwaway scene of the character at rest, it's really amazing. It's also interesting that through the entire scene, she's physically clinging to something solid, with the exception of the first panel, where she's phasing into the room through the floor. Foreshadowing? A hint that she sometimes feels like she's 'losing touch' with the solid world and it helps her / reassures her / anchors her to physically hold onto something?
I love Night Girl's outfit and feisty attitude. This is a far cry from the girl who begged her daddy to give her super-powers so that she could meet Cosmic Boy! Hopefully when they replace it with an armored version, they don't change the look of it! (Granted, we've got two issues left, and I don't think we'll see her, Sizzle or Turtle again under this creative team anyway.)
I thought the conversation between Phantom Girl and Saturn Girl was quite pivotal to the entire story. It laid out clues (in my opinion. As of late, Saturn Girl has been passing on being involved in missions and such. Phantom Girl came to her with a serious problem and Saturn Girl listend but did tell her to talk to Brainiac 5. Brainiac 5 is to busy in his own right to listen to Phantom Girl, so this sets up the scenario for Phantom Girl to take the fall from I believe Projectra. Without anyone helping her, she's going to get in over her head. At this point Projectra has found a way to eliminate Dream Girl revealing the truth. She ran when Sun Boy showed up (I think it has more to do with the fact that he might be able to give things away, so she ducks into hiding). Anyway, with Phantom Girl close on Projetra's trail, its time to do her in. I agree its foreshadowing concerning PG. If you receall, Shooter said "something would happen that would change Phantom Girl forever" and I think we are going to see that next issue.
Hey Set, I've got a picture on my computer (I'm sure you've seen it before) which shows all the Legionnaires (original version) flying straight upwards as a group. It includes Supergirl along with everyone else. Costumes are from the 70's. No Blok or White Witch though. There is one character I can't identify. I'm thinking it's Night Girl but I don't know for certain. She's wearing a purple colored skimpy outfit with a yellow or gold buckle. Her arms and legs are nude, long dark hair. If you know the picture I'm speaking of, Superboy is at the top center of the group. This gal is below and slightly behind him. Is it Night Girl or someone else? I'd link the picture but I have no clue where I originally found the picture.
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There is one character I can't identify. I'm thinking it's Night Girl but I don't know for certain. She's wearing a purple colored skimpy outfit with a yellow or gold buckle. Her arms and legs are nude, long dark hair.
From the description, I'm not sure.
The outfit sounds like Kid Quantum's outfit, but she's black (can't call her African-American, 'cause she's from Xanthu..., African-Xanthu'an?) and had really short hair most of the time, IIRC.
Shrinking Violet / LeViathan has had a purple costume and long dark hair, but I don't recall if she ever wore a costume with bare arms and legs, save in the Waid/Kitson era, during which I think she was usually wearing green.
No idea. If you can link it, or point to somewhere where it is already posted online (using some google image search or something), I might have a better idea.
Well I know its not Violet because she is shown in the middle fore-front wearing her green and black costume. The individual is caucasion.
Ok, just found it
check out the girl directly below Superboy and Cosmic Boy, directly above Phantom Girl.
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Found a bigger picture here.
The yellow thing on her belt does look kinda like the owl-eyes symbol of Night Girl, and she did once wear a skimpy outfit like that. Barring the new Action Legion, I don't think she's ever been an actual Legionnaire 'though, so she really shouldn't be in a picture of the Crisis-era team with people like Tyroc...
The only other dark-haired character who dressed like that was Laurel Kent, but she also was never a Legionnaire, and I'm pretty sure that she always had very short hair.
Found a bigger picture here.
The yellow thing on her belt does look kinda like the owl-eyes symbol of Night Girl, and she did once wear a skimpy outfit like that. Barring the new Action Legion, I don't think she's ever been an actual Legionnaire 'though, so she really shouldn't be in a picture of the Crisis-era team with people like Tyroc...
The only other dark-haired character who dressed like that was Laurel Kent, but she also was never a Legionnaire, and I'm pretty sure that she always had very short hair.
So where does that leave us? Who the heck is she? There is no Blok, White Witch, no Ferro Lad, and no Invisible Kid (either 1 or 2), all the costumes are from the 70's era. It's my favorite Legion picture and I used it for the 1/2 the cover of my game book as well. Must know! Looking back in issue #212, it looks like Night Girl except it's purple rather than black. When did she join? I thought I read somewhere that she did join. But even then, other costumes should have changed and Tyroc would have been gone, do you think we can track down the artist maybe?
::puts on glasses of comic book geekery::
AH! I believe that is either Duo Damsel or Mono Lass.
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Looking back in issue #212, it looks like Night Girl except it's purple rather than black. When did she join? I thought I read somewhere that she did join. But even then, other costumes should have changed and Tyroc would have been gone, do you think we can track down the artist maybe?
She's only a member in the 'Action Legion' by Geoff Johns, which wasn't even established until after that picture was painted, IIRC.
But over on Legionworld.net, it seems to be the opinion that it's Night Girl, and that the yellow things on her belt are indeed her signature owl-motif (I couldn't really get them big enough to see them that clearly. They could have been a pair of big brass balls, for all I could tell...).
Perhaps the artist knew that she was going to become a member in the new Action Legion, perhaps he just wanted another female member for artistic balance in that area, perhaps he just likes Night Girl and thought she deserved to be in the picture. :)
Looking back in issue #212, it looks like Night Girl except it's purple rather than black. When did she join? I thought I read somewhere that she did join. But even then, other costumes should have changed and Tyroc would have been gone, do you think we can track down the artist maybe?She's only a member in the 'Action Legion' by Geoff Johns, which wasn't even established until after that picture was painted, IIRC.
But over on Legionworld.net, it seems to be the opinion that it's Night Girl, and that the yellow things on her belt are indeed her signature owl-motif (I couldn't really get them big enough to see them that clearly. They could have been a pair of big brass balls, for all I could tell...).
Perhaps the artist knew that she was going to become a member in the new Action Legion, perhaps he just wanted another female member for artistic balance in that area, perhaps he just likes Night Girl and thought she deserved to be in the picture. :)
I thought Night Girl when I first saw it and still lean that direction myself. I just couldn't understand why she was there.
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AH! I believe that is either Duo Damsel or Mono Lass.
I know if wasn't Duo Damsel because she's shown elsewhere, twice in fact. As for Mono Lass, I don't believe I met her before.
Would you please stop encouraging that ankle biter?
And is Mon-el dead yet?
Hmmm......Bizarro Mon-el for a superhero game.....hrrrmmmmm.....
Very well, I had no idea my presence was upsetting to you. I shall refrain from encouraging that ankle biter.
No, in fact he's still alive and rumor has it that the new Legion stories which are returning to Adventure Comics actually is called Mon-el and the Legionnaires.
I was just kidding. Nothing upsets me.
It was funny actually.
Oh, ok that's good. I thought your absence here was an indication that you had gotten tired of me. Hope to see you around!
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Naah, I'm just burned out lately.
Work is kinda long and busy, and I had this cold for two weeks that if I started blowing my nose it wouldn't end for 10 minutes, so I come home, I do my pbp's, and go lie comatose.
I get these times of not having anything funny to say that turn into saying stuff that sounds funny to me but really is just mean crap but I'm just so beat to hell I don't know any more, so I shut up.
A start for Bouncing Boy's power? Input everyone?
BOUNCING
The character is able to inflate their body allowing it to become round much like a ball, and as such granting the ability to bounce like one and perform a variety of power effects. The individual’s width increases by approximately five times their normal dimensions though their height remains unchanged. The character’s size category increases by two as a result of their inflated body.
The power effects associated with Bouncing include:
Avoid Injury From Falling
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Toughness
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: 20 modified by distance fallen
Distance: None
Area: None
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to fall for considerable distance and as a result of their inflation, significantly reduce damage taken. The amount of damage absorbed by the impact is equal to twice the character’s power trait category number. The individual is able to fall a distance equal to their power category number x 25 feet, requiring a challenge score of 20 to succeed. Additional heights increase the challenge score by 1 point for every added 25 feet fallen. Lesser heights reduce the challenge score by 1 point per 25 feet less than that determined for their power category number. A failed power effect roll results in regular damage. Heights equal to ¼ or less of their power category number x 25 may be maneuvered without any power effect roll being required.
Bouncing Movement
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Strength increases to Epic 12 when bouncing
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard, 1 Phase
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score:
Distance: Epic 12 x bouncing distance factor per subsequent phase of bouncing, maximum of 6 phases for distance achieved
Area:
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to inflate their body as a standard action. In this state, the individual is capable of projecting their entire body forward a considerable distance. The character may increase their distance each subsequent phase of bouncing up to a maximum of half their power category number (round fractions upward). Actions other than movement interrupts the cumulative bouncing distance achieved, thereby reducing the individual to the next lower the distance possible. A character that comes to a complete stop must start the movement process anew. Each bounce allows the character to attain a height equal to half the distance achieved.
Phase 1: Distance Epic 12 x 5 feet, Max Dist. 60 feet, Height 30 feet
Phase 2: Distance Epic 12 x 10 feet, Max Dist. 120 feet, Height 60 feet
Phase 3: Distance Epic 12 x 15 feet, Max Dist. 180 feet, Height 90 feet
Phase 4: Distance Epic 12 x 20 feet, Max Dist. 240 feet, Height 120 feet
Phase 5: Distance Epic 12 x 25 feet, Max Dist. 300 feet, Height 150 feet
Phase 6: Distance Epic 12 x 30 feet, Max.Dist. 360 feet, Height 180 feet
Bouncing Object
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Toughness increases to Epic 12 when bouncing an object
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: 15 for objects of Epic 12 size, -2 per category lower, +5 per category exceeding Epic 12, maximum of Super
Distance: Epic 12 x 100 feet, larger objects halve distance per greater category
Area: None
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to hurl towards an object, using their body mass and momentum to move objects of considerable size. The individual may move objects equal to their power trait category. Objects of equal size as the character’s power trait category require a challenge score of 15 to move. Each size less the object is, the challenge score is reduced by -2. Each size category the object exceeds the character’s power trait category increases the challenge score by 5 points, up to a maximum of 3 sizes greater. Objects extending beyond this size cannot be bounced away. An object may be moved a distance equal to the character’s category number x 100 in feet but for each size greater the object is, the distance is halved.
Bouncing Opponents Down
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Strength increases to Epic 12 when bouncing opponents down
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: 15 plus 1 per opponent, up to a maximum of 12 opponents
Distance: None
Area: Opponents must be within a 20 area of one another
Power Links: None
This power effect allows the character to bounce directly into their opponents and knock them over, scattering them as far as possible. The character may strike a number of opponents equal to their category number providing they are all within a 20’ foot area. A single attack roll is made to strike all the available opponents. The character may if they choose, reduce the number of opponents struck but they may not bypass those standing between a targeted individual and themselves. Each opponent receives a defense at -5 to avoid being knocked around and must equal to exceed the character’s attack in order to succeed. Each individual who fails their defense suffers a knock back
Destructive Bouncing
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Strength increases to Epic 12 when destroying an object
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: Object’s material hardness and size category numbers added together
Distance: None
Area: Equal to the power trait category
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to hurl their body at non-living objects and destroy them just as if they had Super Strength of an equal category. To determine the area or material in which a character may destroy in a single bounce, add the object’s material hardness and size category together. Thus an object with a material hardness of 10 and a size category of 6 would require a challenge score of 16 to be met. The maximum area a character may affect in a destructive bounce equals cannot exceed their power trait category. The character cannot destroy items whose material hardness exceeds the character’s power trait category by 3. If the challenge score is not met, the object remains intact, though damaged. An object which isn’t destroyed in a single blow may be struck again and each subsequent destructive bouncing blow reduces the challenge score by 5 points until success is achieved.
Re-Bound Blow Preferred Defense
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Toughness and Aim increases to Epic 12 when rebounding attack
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Instantaneous
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score:
Distance: Strength category number x 100 feet
Area: May bounce a number of times equal to Strength category, each
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
This power effect enables the character to re-bound or bounce back a physical blow inflicted upon them by an object. The item being re-bounded must be a physical object such as a weapon, rock, or spacecraft. Attacks utilizing energy or physical blows from super strength are not repelled by the characters inflated body. If the weapon has a category lower than the character’s power category, all damage is negated upon a successful defense. If the defense fails, the character suffers merely half the normal damage inflicted by the blow (round fractions upward).
The individual re-bounding the attack is able to determine the direction the attack is knocked backed and effectively use it to strike another. Attempting an attack with a re-bound weapon is a free action but does require an Aim power effect roll to strike an intended target. An object may be re-bounded a distance equal to the character’s power trait category x 10 feet. A character cannot re-bound an object with a size category greater than his or her own.
Characters selecting this power effect as their primary defense are able to increase the activation time to instantaneous.
Self-Ricochet Bouncing
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Agility increases to Heroic10 when ricochet bouncing
Power Source: Internal
Activation Time: Standard
Emanation Point: Entire body
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: None
Distance: Agility category number x 5 feet
Area: Targets must be within power category number x 5 in feet from one another, maximum targets equal power category number
Power Links: Trajectory Aim power effect
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to ricochet themselves around an area, striking multiple targets. An attack roll is required for each opponent. Each ricochet attempted becomes harder than the previous one and each target after the first imposes a -2 penalty to the attack roll. A character may affect a number of opponents equal to half their power category number (round up). The character may select which target they will ricochet towards after a successful attack. The ricochet effect ends once an attack fails. Each opponent is allowed a defense at -5 to avoid the character’s attack. Opponents must be within a distance no greater than the character’s power trait category number x 5 in feet.
Trajectory Aim
Status Score Modifier:
Power Trait: Aim increases to Heroic 10 when throwing objects utilizing trajectory aim
Power Source: Internal
Power Type: Standard
Emanation Point: Hand
Emanation Appearance: Torso becomes completely inflated and round, legs momentarily disappear
Application: Internal
Challenge Score: None
Distance: Aim category number x 5 feet
Area: May bounce a number of times equal to power trait category number
Power Links: None
Power Effect Unfamiliarity: No
The character is able to ricochet an object capable of bouncing (such as a ball) around an area, striking multiple targets. An attack roll is required for each opponent. Each ricochet attempted becomes harder than the previous one and each target after the first imposes a -2 penalty to the attack roll. A character may affect a number of opponents equal to half their power category number (round up). The character may select which target they will ricochet towards after a successful attack. The ricochet effect ends once an attack fails. Each opponent is allowed a defense at -5 to avoid the character’s attack.
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This is some Big Brother future stuff. I want a future that owes more to Roddenberry and less to Kafka, thankyou.What you want and what is are often to different things. As a productive citizen of the 30th century it is your responsibility to accept the government appointed procedures necessary for appropriate mental and emotional stability.
That will be 50 credits please.
You guys are freakin socialists. USA! USA!!!
emmination point; hmm; does the bouncing power really eminate; I probaby would call it local; if it is his entire body; can he just inflate his feet or does he have to do his whole body at once; can he just do his head and feet and look like a bobble head?
to me this is all power framework advantages and disadvantes of the power; so if you buy the power your whole body exands uniformly and you cannot control specific parts; to do one part differently would be an advantage of the power.
just some thoughts for you to think about how to look at powers. A blast for instance should have one emination point like hands outstreched or eyes or something; to have more than one place a blast can come from would be an advantage and cost more.
emmination point; hmm; does the bouncing power really eminate; I probaby would call it local; if it is his entire body; can he just inflate his feet or does he have to do his whole body at once; can he just do his head and feet and look like a bobble head?
to me this is all power framework advantages and disadvantes of the power; so if you buy the power your whole body exands uniformly and you cannot control specific parts; to do one part differently would be an advantage of the power.
just some thoughts for you to think about how to look at powers. A blast for instance should have one emination point like hands outstreched or eyes or something; to have more than one place a blast can come from would be an advantage and cost more.
It's the torso that inflates, a correction I'll make. I got the emanation point idea from you. It's specifies where the power comes from or what area of the body is affected. This is the original text for emanation point and Emanation Appearance. Keep in mind this is the starting point of things, not a final draft of anything.
Emanation Point
An emanation point is the body part required for power generation. It may be defined as a single location such as the hand or eyes, or the emanation point may encompass the entire body. The emanation points are listed at the beginning of each power as well as under the description of each specific power effect.
Some power effects have multiple emanation points, such as both the hands and the eyes. Whenever a power effect has more than one emanation point available to it, the Representing Player or Cosmos Master determines which particular area the ability derives from when the ability is used. Once determined, the location does not change.
Should the Representing Player or Cosmos Master like to have more than one emanation point available, such as using hands and eyes; they must increase the cost of the power effect when they select it. For each added emanation point, the cost of the power effect increases my 50% (rounding fractions upward). A Representing Player or Cosmos Master may choose other emanation points after the power effect has been acquired, but doing so requires them to purchase the entire ability over a second time, at its full cost.
Emanation Appearance
Powers which produce energy often are visible and have a specific appearance when used. The power effect defines the emanation appearance as indicated within the ability.
Variations may occur from one character to another, but in such situations, they should be determined in advance and agreed upon by both the representing player and Cosmos Master. The emanation appearance remains the same once determined. A Representing Player or Cosmos Master who varies the emanation appearance from that described may do so at no penalty but the alteration has no significant effect other than descriptive to roleplaying.
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So where does that leave us? Who the heck is she? There is no Blok, White Witch, no Ferro Lad, and no Invisible Kid (either 1 or 2), all the costumes are from the 70's era. It's my favorite Legion picture and I used it for the 1/2 the cover of my game book as well. Must know! Looking back in issue #212, it looks like Night Girl except it's purple rather than black. When did she join? I thought I read somewhere that she did join. But even then, other costumes should have changed and Tyroc would have been gone, do you think we can track down the artist maybe?Found a bigger picture here.
The yellow thing on her belt does look kinda like the owl-eyes symbol of Night Girl, and she did once wear a skimpy outfit like that. Barring the new Action Legion, I don't think she's ever been an actual Legionnaire 'though, so she really shouldn't be in a picture of the Crisis-era team with people like Tyroc...
The only other dark-haired character who dressed like that was Laurel Kent, but she also was never a Legionnaire, and I'm pretty sure that she always had very short hair.
Is that not the post Crisis Night girl who is a member?
Is there any place to get a list of the alternate names for the Legion EG Live Wire for Lightning Lad?
Set or Freehold DM will be more familiar with the changed codenames. This website will be helpful.
Set introduced me to it last summer and these people are VERY knowledgable. My experience really is limited to the Adventure Comics - Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes from the 60's and 70's, as well as the current Legion comic run.
Is that not the post Crisis Night girl who is a member?So where does that leave us? Who the heck is she? There is no Blok, White Witch, no Ferro Lad, and no Invisible Kid (either 1 or 2), all the costumes are from the 70's era. It's my favorite Legion picture and I used it for the 1/2 the cover of my game book as well. Must know! Looking back in issue #212, it looks like Night Girl except it's purple rather than black. When did she join? I thought I read somewhere that she did join. But even then, other costumes should have changed and Tyroc would have been gone, do you think we can track down the artist maybe?Found a bigger picture here.
The yellow thing on her belt does look kinda like the owl-eyes symbol of Night Girl, and she did once wear a skimpy outfit like that. Barring the new Action Legion, I don't think she's ever been an actual Legionnaire 'though, so she really shouldn't be in a picture of the Crisis-era team with people like Tyroc...
The only other dark-haired character who dressed like that was Laurel Kent, but she also was never a Legionnaire, and I'm pretty sure that she always had very short hair.
Yes I believe it is, that's the conclusion we came to anyway. What doesn't make sense is the other costumes and even some of the Legionnaires present. The costumes match the 1970's as do the Legionnaires (notice Tyroc in there). Others are missing though like Blok and White Witch. This is primarly why we were confused.
Invisible Kid's probably.......
Have you gone bonkers again? I am clueless as to what your talking about.
He hasn't gone bonkers, your just slow...
Ummm....no I'm not, I'm just tired.
Are you talking about that picture Heath?
Yea actually you are kinda slow.
Better to be slow than a one-minute man.
BURRRRRRRRRRN!!!
mortals playing gland games is confusing to us immortal, firey beings of wishful delights.
uhm; any have a wish they want twisted for the holiday? I am Super at that and my deed are LEGION! hahahahahah
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Is there any place to get a list of the alternate names for the Legion EG Live Wire for Lightning Lad?
The Wiki has a pretty thorough list. The team that had the most changed names was the Batch SW6/New Earth team.
Are you talking about that picture Heath?Yeah; the Alex Ross one.
I'm sorry I can't see Invisible Kid anywhere. Is it Invisible Kid I (the real deal) or Invisible Kid II (that French guy? I don't have special vision which allows me to see invisible characters in the painting.
Though on a side note, I like Supergirls outfit better now than in the 70's. Not that the 70's is bad, I just like the current one better.
mortals playing gland games is confusing to us immortal, firey beings of wishful delights.
uhm; any have a wish they want twisted for the holiday? I am Super at that and my deed are LEGION! hahahahahah
Why is it confusing? Do you immortals not have glands all in the right places?
Ok, my wish is for immortals to suddenly have glands in the right places. Now what are you going to do with your new and sudden Ahem...urges?
Efreeti don't have prostates.
They do now, I wished for it.
Why don't you wish for something good?
I thought I was. You don't want the Efreeti getting lucky once in awhile?
Ok, I wish my stomach would settle down, its doing the flip flops right now.