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Frank Quitely is the artist for All Star Superman.


Valegrim wrote:
I have a whole bunch of villains I have created for my Champions games over the years; your welcome to them if you like; I can send you a blurb about some of them; have individuals; small and big teams.

Yea, I would like that. Sift through and send me what you can, either here or email....whatever works best for you. I'll look at anything you send, if you have some specific ideas about how to incorporate the individuals or teams into the Legion saga send me a note on that as well. Not that I can't do it myself, it just nice to have more than one brain working.

I'll be taking some of the more well known villains from the Legion and using them when I get started playing. I'm hoping to build up a good sized collection. Once I'm in full swing I can take the time to put together more obscure villains found once in a great while in the comics. Your samplings will help me get the ball rolling quite a bit faster.

Heath....I'm glad to see I have infected you...and NO, I'm not really Infectious Lass....We Bgztl's have a certain charm....

Liberty's Edge

Valegrim wrote:
I have a whole bunch of villains I have created for my Champions games over the years; your welcome to them if you like; I can send you a blurb about some of them; have individuals; small and big teams.

I'm going to need about 30-40 tough types that don't ask a lot of questions.


Heathansson wrote:
Valegrim wrote:
I have a whole bunch of villains I have created for my Champions games over the years; your welcome to them if you like; I can send you a blurb about some of them; have individuals; small and big teams.
I'm going to need about 30-40 tough types that don't ask a lot of questions.

Up to no good again?

Liberty's Edge

Naah, we're doing charity work.


Heathansson wrote:
Naah, we're doing charity work.

I got some time to donate....so what are we going to do? By the way is Phantom Girl tough enough for whatever you have in mind? And none of this 1960's the mission is to dangerous for female Legionnaire's stuff either.

Dark Archive

Similar to Valegrim, I've got a bunch of characters written up for various games on my website. (GURPS Supers, Aberrant and Mutants & Masterminds)

The M&M page has write ups for Legion Legacies (a team consisting of the kids of the original silver age Legion) and 'Freedom's Rejects,' a team of 'subs' for a similar setting, as well as a few other teams or groupings that could be fun to pillage for ideas such as a group of flying heroes from an Academy for super-training and a European-Union centric team of heroes.


Set wrote:

Similar to Valegrim, I've got a bunch of characters written up for various games on my website. (GURPS Supers, Aberrant and Mutants & Masterminds)

The M&M page has write ups for Legion Legacies (a team consisting of the kids of the original silver age Legion) and 'Freedom's Rejects,' a team of 'subs' for a similar setting, as well as a few other teams or groupings that could be fun to pillage for ideas such as a group of flying heroes from an Academy for super-training and a European-Union centric team of heroes.

Thanks Set. I flipped through and saw tons of names I have never heard of. Are these things fans made up or is it taken from one of the re-boot series or what? Feel free to post some villains of interest I'd like to see them.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Naah, we're doing charity work.
I got some time to donate....so what are we going to do? By the way is Phantom Girl tough enough for whatever you have in mind? And none of this 1960's the mission is to dangerous for female Legionnaire's stuff either.

Y'know....celebrity appearances.

Are you qualified to fly small radar-invisible single reentry craft with a full compliment of Danox Xoxnink Gigaton Warpedos and a single forward mounted anti-peninsula particle beam weapon?


Heathansson wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Naah, we're doing charity work.
I got some time to donate....so what are we going to do? By the way is Phantom Girl tough enough for whatever you have in mind? And none of this 1960's the mission is to dangerous for female Legionnaire's stuff either.

Y'know....celebrity appearances.

Are you qualified to fly small radar-invisible single reentry craft with a full compliment of Danox Xoxnink Gigaton Warpedos and a single forward mounted anti-peninsula particle beam weapon?

Qualified....I guess I would not be the best choice for a pilot. Honestly, our best pilot is believe it or not...Bouncing Boy. On the other hand, in phantom form I am pretty much undetectable and I am a member of the Legion's Espionage Squad. So if you need me, I'm in.

As far as celebrity appearance....Yea I can do that too.

Liberty's Edge

You got any problems with ethical ambiguousness?


Heathansson wrote:
You got any problems with ethical ambiguousness?

Nope, I know right from wrong, present me with a sample challenge and I shall do my best to prove it to you. I take it since your not Legion Leader this is an unofficial mission, am I correct? I will point out that I am the 5th member, so I am considerably more experienced than most members of the Legion.


Yikes. I've got TONS of characters I made for MSH a few years back..I think I'd actually have to go to my mom's house to find 'em, provided she didn't throw them out. No luck finding that LOSH with D&D on the cover btw...still looking.


Freehold DM wrote:
Yikes. I've got TONS of characters I made for MSH a few years back..I think I'd actually have to go to my mom's house to find 'em, provided she didn't throw them out. No luck finding that LOSH with D&D on the cover btw...still looking.

Freehold, if your talking about the issue discussed earlier about the Legion members sitting around somekind of round computer with a holograph image showing the D&D characters, it wasn't on the cover it was a panel on the inside somewheres. This is assuming we are talking about the same thing. The issue would have been around 1982-84 in the year, original series. Heres a link which shows some comic scenes of some of the Legionnaires playing D&D. Regretfully, it didn't mention a issue number. I noticed that Star Boy has his beard so that narrows down the search.

legionclubhouse linky

If you feel energetic and post some villains for me I promise to use at least one to attempt to take over the universe when I finally have enough material to start playing.

Started working on powers now. Only plan on doing the ones that are required for the Legionnaires and villains to be used right away (for the most part). I wonder how many times I'll have to change things until I have it right.

Chris:
The Legion book has been helpful, but what was really good, was the DC game. Between that and the Marvel game I have I pull it out to see what someone else did when I get stuck. Thanks once again.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
You got any problems with ethical ambiguousness?

Nope, I know right from wrong, present me with a sample challenge and I shall do my best to prove it to you. I take it since your not Legion Leader this is an unofficial mission, am I correct? I will point out that I am the 5th member, so I am considerably more experienced than most members of the Legion.

Just to let you know, if you fail, I will deny all involvement.

They won't believe me, but that never stopped me.

Dark Archive

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Freehold, if your talking about the issue discussed earlier about the Legion members sitting around somekind of round computer with a holograph image showing the D&D characters, it wasn't on the cover it was a panel on the inside somewheres.

I believe that scene happened after Vi's kidnapping and return, as her hair was cut short and she was flirting with Sun Boy (having dumped her ex-boyfriend for not noticing that she'd been kidnapped and replaced with a shapeshifting actress...).

Sun Boy and Star Boy where the two playing at the time.


Heathansson wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
You got any problems with ethical ambiguousness?

Nope, I know right from wrong, present me with a sample challenge and I shall do my best to prove it to you. I take it since your not Legion Leader this is an unofficial mission, am I correct? I will point out that I am the 5th member, so I am considerably more experienced than most members of the Legion.

Just to let you know, if you fail, I will deny all involvement.

They won't believe me, but that never stopped me.

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.....lets have the details, then I will decide if it is the right thing to do. I assume your sharing the risk?

So did anyone recall these panels of the Legionnaires playing D&D. I know years ago I had the comic. Surely someone must recognize it. We have several clues as to the approximate year the comic was written.

legionclubhouse linky

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:


Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.....lets have the details, then I will decide if it is the right thing to do. I assume your sharing the risk?

I find your lack of faith.....disturbing....


Heathansson wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:


Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.....lets have the details, then I will decide if it is the right thing to do. I assume your sharing the risk?

I find your lack of faith.....disturbing....

I've seen Brainiac 5 take this approach, he slides up to you all warm and fuzzy, tries to sweet talk you into the biggest, hush, hush, thing, then WHAM, it's either a set up against you or he's trying to sneak his way into ousting the current Legion Leader because he wants to position. Kinda takes the divide and conquer approach. So if that makes me questionable....well I guess it does.

Or were you questioning the fact that I asked if you were taking the same risk....again, Brainiac 5 didn't take the risk, other than in reputation. Not all Legionnaires are created equal I'm afraid.

Perhaps it is you who is lacking faith....drag our butts how many millions of miles away only then to reveal 1/3 of some crazy plan that could potentially start an intergalactic war (or insert your own overly dramatic conclusion of what could result). Trust is part of being a Legionnaire, so why are you not being open and forthwrite? Clearly there is something your not telling me.

I can handle moral dilemas, but I need the facts to make the right decision. I don't want you making it for me. If you feel you can't trust me with whatever knowledge you have (and I do mean all of it), then...I'm sorry....Heath...sniff, sniff, I, I, I just think...sniff, that (turns her face away to hide her tear), that, we'll....I think it's YOU that don't trust me.....and i thought I was special....(goes into an open sob with her hands covering her face and head in her lap).

Liberty's Edge

Paranoid much? I'm not Brainiac 5. I can't possibly feel guilt.
For things he did.

Liberty's Edge

Okay, I'll own up. There's a certain "banking planet" that needs to quit hording money so bad. I mean, they really don't know how to share, see? We as heroes, in a Robin Hood sort of way, have to rob from the rich, and give to the poor.
So, you're in, right?


Heathansson wrote:

Okay, I'll own up. There's a certain "banking planet" that needs to quit hording money so bad. I mean, they really don't know how to share, see? We as heroes, in a Robin Hood sort of way, have to rob from the rich, and give to the poor.

So, you're in, right?

You are terrible............And funny!

Liberty's Edge

So you're in? Good.

Do ya know a good gitaway driver? I'll be drunk.


Okay, you got me- that is NOT what I remembered! Maybe it was a different game they were playing, but I specifically remembered it was something on the cover of who's who in the legion of super heroes. Thank you very, VERY much for the link!


Freehold DM wrote:
Okay, you got me- that is NOT what I remembered! Maybe it was a different game they were playing, but I specifically remembered it was something on the cover of who's who in the legion of super heroes. Thank you very, VERY much for the link!

No problem, it was bugging me as well. That will be five dollars please....


Heathansson wrote:

So you're in? Good.

Do ya know a good gitaway driver? I'll be drunk.

Actually, you'll be in rehab.....either for criminal actions or alcohol abuse. Any other issues your struggling with these days....gambling addiction, relationship issues, obssession over pepperoni pizza, anything you want to come clean about? You'll be happy to know your cry for help hasn't fallen on deaf ears. Don't worry Heath, we care about you and will get you the help you need since you've apparently fallen on hard times.

Liberty's Edge

Actually, that'd be a groovy hook for a Batman comic: an Arkham Asylum group therapy session, with Joker, Riddler, et al....


Heathansson wrote:
Actually, that'd be a groovy hook for a Batman comic: an Arkham Asylum group therapy session, with Joker, Riddler, et al....

Are you joining them or counseling them?

Liberty's Edge

I'm the Joker's.....sponsor.


Heathansson wrote:
I'm the Joker's.....sponsor.

So what, you borrowed a time bubble from Legion headquarters for your weekly meetings? Unauthorized no doubt. Am I the only positive influence in your life?

Liberty's Edge

But, I wanna be good. I just don't know how.


Heathansson wrote:
But, I wanna be good. I just don't know how.

We can handle this a couple of different ways....

1. Brainiac 5 can rearrange your brain a little bit.
2. You can go through therapy (which rarely seems to work)
3. You need to find a positive female influence who can control the bad boy in you.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
But, I wanna be good. I just don't know how.

We can handle this a couple of different ways....

1. Brainiac 5 can rearrange your brain a little bit.
2. You can go through therapy (which rarely seems to work)
3. You need to find a positive female influence who can control the bad boy in you.

Some guy named "Brainiac"....messing with....my brain.....neh.

Therapy....neh.

Positive female influence.....why do you think I drink and rob bank planets? ;)


Heathansson wrote:
Positive female influence.....why do you think I drink and rob bank planets? ;)

Well lets see....

Triplicate Girl.....taken, has Bouncing Boy
Saturn Girl....taken, has Lightning Lad
Shrinking Violet....taken, can't make up her mind between two guys
Princess Projectra....taken, has Karate Kid
Shadow Lass.....taken, has Mon-el
Light Lass.....taken, has Timber Wolf
Dawnstar....taken, has Wildfire
Phantom Girl....Don't even go there!
Supergirl......maybe, had a thing with Brainiac 5 a while back.... I guess you could have his left overs.

Otherwise that leaves you with Night Girl of the Substitute Legion....oh wait, taken, she has Cosmic Boy

Well, I guess your just out of luck.....

So basically, you drink and rob planets because you can't find a girl friend....Got it!

Dark Archive

That was a hilarious list Eileen. Alot of hooking up in the Legion I see. Hey, couldn't triplicate girl be a polygamist?


mortellan wrote:
That was a hilarious list Eileen. Alot of hooking up in the Legion I see. Hey, couldn't triplicate girl be a polygamist?

That was one of the first things you noticed about the Legion back in the 60's, they paired as many people up as they could. It was by far the most romantic Super-hero, science fiction comic around, still is.

Last year, Triplicate Girl went on 3 separate dates all at the same time. Each guy thought they were the only one. Eventually, she gets one of them back to her dorm room and they are kissing...and he says "So use your power", her response "What makes you think I'm not" at that moment, the other two triplicate girls show up with their dates, and all three guys ran for the hills. True story!

Dark Archive

:O!

Scandalous! I have to check this out next time I'm at the comic shop on D&D night.


hehe someone telling stories about me; warm and fuzzy me? Wham; from me; I dont even own that CD; hehe; trying to take over leadership; well, somebody with a brain SHOULD lead; but had I wished leadership; I would lead, but we are not yet running that program.


Valegrim wrote:
hehe someone telling stories about me; warm and fuzzy me? Wham; from me; I dont even own that CD; hehe; trying to take over leadership; well, somebody with a brain SHOULD lead; but had I wished leadership; I would lead, but we are not yet running that program.

I...I...I...wasn't gossiping, really, I was merely trying to persuade others to join the Legion and in one case, help someone seek professional counseling. I even referred you, so really, you should be thanking me, instead, what do I get, questionable comments. Hmmmph...hardly appropriate when I was only trying to help. By the way Brainiac 5....why did you stop seeing Supergirl? I always thought she was really fun to hang around.

Liberty's Edge

Girls wit' boyfriends are the ones I like,
I'll steal your girlie like I stole your bike!


EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Valegrim wrote:
hehe someone telling stories about me; warm and fuzzy me? Wham; from me; I dont even own that CD; hehe; trying to take over leadership; well, somebody with a brain SHOULD lead; but had I wished leadership; I would lead, but we are not yet running that program.
I...I...I...wasn't gossiping, really, I was merely trying to persuade others to join the Legion and in one case, help someone seek professional counseling. I even referred you, so really, you should be thanking me, instead, what do I get, questionable comments. Hmmmph...hardly appropriate when I was only trying to help. By the way Brainiac 5....why did you stop seeing Supergirl? I always thought she was really fun to hang around.

well, her eyes kept burning holes in my clothes and her even casual strength during uhm moments of uhm you know moments; well, scary.

Dark Archive

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:


Otherwise that leaves you with Night Girl of the Substitute Legion....oh wait, taken, she has Cosmic Boy

A very brave person could date Infectious Lass...


Valegrim wrote:
I...I...I...wasn't gossiping, really, I was merely trying to persuade others to join the Legion and in one case, help someone seek professional counseling. I even referred you, so really, you should be thanking me, instead, what do I get, questionable comments. Hmmmph...hardly appropriate when I was only trying to help. By the way Brainiac 5....why did you stop seeing Supergirl? I always thought she was really fun to hang around.
well, her eyes kept burning holes in my clothes and her even casual strength during uhm moments of uhm you know moments; well, scary.

So basically your intimidated by strong female types?


Set wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:


Otherwise that leaves you with Night Girl of the Substitute Legion....oh wait, taken, she has Cosmic Boy

A very brave person could date Infectious Lass...

Can you picture Heathy and Infectious Lass together....honestly, I think he would find the whole idea...sickening. Or maybe he would be Loveskick".

OK, who would be the right girl for Heathy? Lets take a poll. She needs to be someone who....

1. Would actually like him.
2. Can curb his bad boy ideas.
3. Basically, someone who can keep him on a leash.

Liberty's Edge

But I'm married!!! Wit' children!!!


Heathansson wrote:
But I'm married!!! Wit' children!!!

Stop that nonsense and go back to being in character. (We know your happy at home, as we all should be).

Liberty's Edge

Voice would prolly see me as a challenge.
She'd try me like "please don't leave your dirty socks on the floor. And clip your toenails, because you're making holes in all your socks."

And I'd get my selective hearing power, so her hypnotism wouldn't work.

Liberty's Edge

Why are the Science Police here to take me in for questioning?


Set wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:


Otherwise that leaves you with Night Girl of the Substitute Legion....oh wait, taken, she has Cosmic Boy

A very brave person could date Infectious Lass...

In every version of the legion, Infectious Lass has always been smokin' hot. Count me in as...Pencillin Lad! Immune to all diseases and can exist in unusually hostile enviornments indefinetly!


Heathansson wrote:
Why are the Science Police here to take me in for questioning?

Well let's see......Here are a few quotes from you we have on record!

Two Accounts of Super villain association......
Naah....so I joined the Evil Guys. They got cooler names.
I'm the Joker's.....sponsor.

Two Accounts of Identity Theft.......
I'm "Wolf Star Master Tyrannus Rex.
I am LOBO LAD, LAST OF THE CZARNIANS!!!!!

Four Accounts of Aggressive action against the Legion of Super-Heroes......
" I kicked Superboy boom boom down. He's marooned on a asteroid made of pink kryptonite;
There's a special treat in your slipper.
Gotta go dig out my LoSH comix, yknow, look over their weaknesses.
Supergirl? Good. I don't sweat her. Kryptonite codpiece.

Nine Accounts of intergalactic Terrorism.......
" Watch out, Spackle Lad!!! The Grout Emperor is gunning for you!!!
Never mind....puny earthlings, prepare to be obliterated!!!
Here's a secret not many humons know: dogs and cats? Rule the earth.
What about the President of Earth? He sent her a cheeky picture.
I want Scrappy Doo to be my Vice Admiral or whatever. That way, nobody'll wanna do the job on me.
I'm going to need about 30-40 tough types that don't ask a lot of questions.
Are you qualified to fly small radar-invisible single reentry craft with a full compliment of Danox Xoxnink Gigaton Warpedos and a single forward mounted anti-peninsula particle beam weapon?
Okay, I'll own up. There's a certain "banking planet" that needs to quit hording money so bad. I mean, they really don't know how to share, see? We as heroes, in a Robin Hood sort of way, have to rob from the rich, and give to the poor. So, you're in, right?

One Account of public intoxication.......
Do ya know a good gitaway driver? I'll be drunk.

Three Accounts of Animal Endangerment and abuse.....
Hmmm....hey Noah! Try this barbequed unicorn. Deelish!!!
Monkeys are all evil thieves. They should be destroyed.
King Kong? I heard he has a rubber ding dong.

One Account of misdemeanor theft.....
I'll steal your girlie like I stole your bike!

And your wondering why the Science Police is questioning you....Take your pick!

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