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Liberty's Edge

You should've seen her rebuttal.


Heathansson wrote:
You should've seen her rebuttal.

So maybe she actually assked for the portrait but when it came to the public image she rebuttaled it. Sounds like a typical politician huh?

Liberty's Edge

Yeah, but it totally rectum.


Heathansson wrote:
Yeah, but it totally rectum.

Well she can always get a job with Matter Eater Lad on his home planet of Bismoll.


Hokay, looks like they take a go at a legion of substitute heroes in this issue. These guys are hilarious. They don't put in any of the original subbies(although they do have another version of Infectious Lass named Virus, and a weird homage to Chlorophyll Kid named Fruit Boy), but these guys stand on their own. Sludge has a somewhat useful, if disgusting power, while Spy, Voice and I think one other character have powers that are extraordinarily useful if they put their minds to the application. I'd look forward to seeing these guys show up every now and again.

And on the planet where Invisible Kid, Saturn Girl, Ultra Boy and Star Boy are stuck on, Saturn Girl decides to pick up a gun and whip some @$$ when they are faced head on by aliens that are actively trying to eat people. IT was good to see her use her powers to coordinate assults on those things as opposed to just trying (unsuccessfully) "turn their brains off".


Freehold DM wrote:

Hokay, looks like they take a go at a legion of substitute heroes in this issue. These guys are hilarious. They don't put in any of the original subbies(although they do have another version of Infectious Lass named Virus, and a weird homage to Chlorophyll Kid named Fruit Boy), but these guys stand on their own. Sludge has a somewhat useful, if disgusting power, while Spy, Voice and I think one other character have powers that are extraordinarily useful if they put their minds to the application. I'd look forward to seeing these guys show up every now and again.

And on the planet where Invisible Kid, Saturn Girl, Ultra Boy and Star Boy are stuck on, Saturn Girl decides to pick up a gun and whip some @$$ when they are faced head on by aliens that are actively trying to eat people. IT was good to see her use her powers to coordinate assults on those things as opposed to just trying (unsuccessfully) "turn their brains off".

Who were the aliens?

Dark Archive

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Who were the aliens?

So far I've only heard of them referred to as 'Life Eradicators,' and Saturn Girl mentioned at one point that they might even be constructs of some sort, that she was getting no reading from them.

The new recruits are hilarious. Spy, Voice and M'Rissey all seem potentially quite useful, particularly for diplomatic / administrative roles (and, if spurned, could be huge potential threats, both because of their powers and their political connections), while Sludge, Sonar, Virus and Fruit Boy range from pitiable to hopeless.

Virus, "I can make people really sick, but, uh, I can't really aim it. Everybody around me gets sick. Here, let me demonstrate..."

Light Lass, "NO! That's okay, really!"

Sonar, "I can hear really well. Underwater. Do you have some sort of swimming pool?"

Light Lass, "We believe you. Next?"

Liberty's Edge

I could turn those subs into an elite fighting force of fighting dudes.


Heathansson wrote:

I could turn those subs into an elite fighting force of fighting dudes.

And what would your little group be called...

Heath and the wooffie woofs?

The substitute Legion of almost super villains....

Liberty's Edge

The Futurilords.

Ripinator Boy
Wiz Kid
Typhoid Mary Girl
Nepotism Lad

and.....
I was a Middleaged Werwoof.

Liberty's Edge

I wupped Mon-el at arm wrasslin.


Heathansson wrote:
I wupped Mon-el at arm wrasslin.

Wow, I had no idea you were that strong. I'm assuming Mon-el wasn't under the effects of lead radiation poisoning at the time. My sincere apologies for having gave you a hard time since this thread started. I shall give you the respect you command from now on. I'm glad you won, I was never a big Mon-el fan anyways. How did you do against Supergirl, Ultra Boy, and Superboy?

I think I might even vote for you as Legion leader during the next election.

Dark Archive

Wow Eileen I didn't know you were into comics. Well I knew you read mine, but this is cool. I have never read LSH or much DC to be honest. My latest purchase however was Kingdom Come. It is now my favorite graphic novel.


mortellan wrote:
Wow Eileen I didn't know you were into comics. Well I knew you read mine, but this is cool. I have never read LSH or much DC to be honest. My latest purchase however was Kingdom Come. It is now my favorite graphic novel.

And to think, I was beginning to feel ignored. (Starts to Pout)! I had seen your name here once in awhile and just assumed you had seen mine. I suspect you have probably seen Bubba and one or two other familiar names as well.

I started reading DC comics when I was about 8 or so. My Mom would drag my older brother and I to the drug store where they had comic books. I was already reading Disney comics and had a Great Aunt buy them for us every month, and she would buy several at a time.

Eventually, my brother started thinking that Batman and Superman looked a lot cooler than Donald Duck and Goofy, so he would beg, and beg, and beg, and beg until she finally gave in. She allowed us to take one each. If I rememeber correctly, he got either a DC Presents or a Superman comic. Me, I saw Superboy Starring the Legion of Super-Heroes and decided that this future thing was so much better. Anyway, I jumped right in and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Over the next several years we built up a comic collection which filled a few cardboard boxes. My forever greedy brother made sure that any comic money we got was spent on his choices, but as long as I got the Legion comic, I was happy.

Flash Forward a few more years...and my brother goes to college. He decided to take all the comics with, including mine, along with some books and records. By this time, he had abandoned any interest in DC comics and spent a considerable amount of money on Spiderman. Eventually, he tapped himself out of funds, so he did the unthinkable....he sold all the DC comics we had accumlated, including my precious Legion comics. Several boxes, sold for like $50.00. Guess who was really pissed off?

So at that point I kinda threw in the towel.

Eventually I moved to St. Paul, and found a store called The Source Comics and Games, which is where I would buy my RPG items. I would always look at Legion on the shelf, but decided it had been to long and everything had changed so I didn't buy.

Flash forward a few more years and DC put out these hardcover archive books, each priced at $50.00. and there were only 12 of them, that was only a mere $600.00 plus tax. So I admired them and that was about it.

Then a couple of years ago, I was at this local bookstore and they had some used comics. So I'm flipping through and what do I find, the very first Superboy starring the Legion of Super-Heroes comic my Mom bought for me. So I paid .50 for it, and loved it. After that, it wasn't to hard to seriously consider buying the archive books. So I said to myself, "It's my money, I miss my Legion of Super-Heroes, I'm going to do what I want to do". So I bought the first one and within in around 2 years, I finally had all of them.

After that, I decided to to bring my two favorite passions together, obviously the Legion and RPG. I decided to create my own Legion RPG. Now I'm buying more old issues of Legion, along with the new ones and a few scattered other titles which feature the Legion as guest spots. It's pretty easy to afford now since D&D 3.5 has come to an end and I had chosen not to buy 4.0. So basically, I traded my D&D money in for Legion.

Anyway, I don't know how many of the messages you read on this thread but if you did read some or choose to, you'll see me occasionally going on about my game and how it is progressing. I hope my messages aren't to annoying to the others that were kind enough to show an interest in this thread when I started it. It's just so flippin' exciting for me. I had gotten kinda staggnat in D&D so it is nice to once again have a creative outlet.

I'm all up for having a backalley comic thread on Canonfire if you are (and if it is allowed). Anyway, you always know where to find me. Thanks for dropping by and I hope I hear from you again.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
I wupped Mon-el at arm wrasslin.

Wow, I had no idea you were that strong. I'm assuming Mon-el wasn't under the effects of lead radiation poisoning at the time. My sincere apologies for having gave you a hard time since this thread started. I shall give you the respect you command from now on. I'm glad you won, I was never a big Mon-el fan anyways. How did you do against Supergirl, Ultra Boy, and Superboy?

I think I might even vote for you as Legion leader during the next election.

Good, because Lightning Lad is crackin' under the pressure.

And those three "backed away slowly" when Mon-el's wrist snapped. ;)
Plus they were scared of my rattlesnake necktie.


Heathansson wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
I wupped Mon-el at arm wrasslin.

Wow, I had no idea you were that strong. I'm assuming Mon-el wasn't under the effects of lead radiation poisoning at the time. My sincere apologies for having gave you a hard time since this thread started. I shall give you the respect you command from now on. I'm glad you won, I was never a big Mon-el fan anyways. How did you do against Supergirl, Ultra Boy, and Superboy?

I think I might even vote for you as Legion leader during the next election.

Good, because Lightning Lad is crackin' under the pressure.

And those three "backed away slowly" when Mon-el's wrist snapped. ;)
Plus they were scared of my rattlesnake necktie.

I don't know if I believe the story about the "other two backing away slowly"...Ultra Boy is a hot head, always trying to prove himself to be the best. Personally, I'm getting really tired of that tough guy act of his. Superboy on the other hand probably just wasn't interested in competing. Personally, I'm surprised you got Mon-el to sit down with you. So what other powers have you been hiding from us...

Well I hate to agree with you, but out of the founding three members, lightning lad does have a harder time keeping things together. I think Rock and Imra do a much better job as Legion leader. I would like to see a resume of your qualifications in order to make an informed decision about whom to vote for in the next Legion election.

By the way, does anyone know when the next election is?

Phantom Girl

Liberty's Edge

Ultra Boy was about to say something, but I said, "any time you feel squirrely boy, just jump." And he backed off.

Resume

Powers:

Mune to most things, ceptin silver; Kryptonite even makes me surly and tough like spinach

claw/claw/bite

rattlesnake necktie

tall powers--can reach high stuff

strong powers--can lift and open stuff like pickle jars

my breath instantly ripens fruit

Folks I've wupped

Batman

a couplea Robins

5 Green Lanterns--from different planets--at the same time
(used my yellow powers on them)

Mon-El

Zogrog the Demolisher or Destroyer or something like that

El-Mentallo

Dr. Doom

Captain Marvel Junior

Aquaman (then he said, but we wasn't underwater!!! Wa wa wa, let's go boah!!!)

Bizarro World Lex Luthor

Liberty's Edge

Oh and my only real weakness is I'm a workaholic.


Odd Heath, I noticed that the majority of the individuals you have defeated were heroes not villains. I do believe this requires an explanation on your part. In addition, some of these powers just aren't going to cut it for the Legion of Super-heroes. Perhaps you should reconsider your resume. If you want to go with it, well we'll see.....now if Conan were on your list I really would be impressed.

Liberty's Edge

We were just funnin'. Lotta them like to fight Friday night if they don't hook up with no ladies. I'll obligem.

Liberty's Edge

You don't need powers to wup no ass. Batman and Conan have no powers. They could wup anybody practically.

Dark Archive

I hardly get this far down the paizo boards is all, Eileen. Heck I forget to check them most nights. My mistake I guess :P


mortellan wrote:
I hardly get this far down the paizo boards is all, Eileen. Heck I forget to check them most nights. My mistake I guess :P

Well now that you know the gem is at the bottom of the chest I trust we will be seeing you coming back for more. Actually, I should have told you this in my original post, but if you post here two or more times you are automatically sucked into the 31st century and there is no hope of returning. Therefore, you are expected to join the great ranks of the Legion of Super-Heroes, and if you don't qualify, then you can join the Legion of Substitute Heroes, the Legion Pets, or become a super villain. Although it is my experience that the super villains generally end up having a lengthy stay at the prison planet. I do think their security needs upgrading however, because they always seem to escape, only to cause further problems in the cosmos.


ah,<shakes his head with a sigh and speaks as if to a five year old> ; the stimulation of biochemistry would be on those innoculated who fall under the gaze of the power of the Emerald not the villianess herself.

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Valegrim wrote:

I fail to see how being struck by the power of the emerald eye will stimulate her biochemistry. Perhaps you could explain this on a....oh say standard Bgztl intelliegence level (and don't get carried away with the insults, I have a swift kick that never misses the mid mark.


Heathy as leader; this legion is going to the dogs :)

Liberty's Edge

Chuck Norris isn't scared. He IS "Scared."


EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
I fail to see how being struck by the power of the emerald eye will stimulate her biochemistry. Perhaps you could explain this on a....oh say standard Bgztl intelliegence level (and don't get carried away with the insults, I have a swift kick that never misses the mid mark.

Valegrim said:
ah,<shakes his head with a sigh and speaks as if to a five year old> ; the stimulation of biochemistry would be on those innoculated who fall under the gaze of the power of the Emerald not the villianess herself.

Eileen wrote:
(and don't get carried away with the insults, I have a swift kick that never misses the mid mark.

Gotcha scared with this part don't I!

You know we don't have to vote for Heath for Legion leader. His resume was kinda weak....But if nobody opposes him he will automatically win. So does anyone else want to run?

Heath, who would your deputy leader be?


Boy these boards are working terrible today....nothing but problems.

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
I fail to see how being struck by the power of the emerald eye will stimulate her biochemistry. Perhaps you could explain this on a....oh say standard Bgztl intelliegence level (and don't get carried away with the insults, I have a swift kick that never misses the mid mark.

Valegrim said
ah,<shakes his head with a sigh and speaks as if to a five year old> ; the stimulation of biochemistry would be on those innoculated who fall under the gaze of the power of the Emerald not the villianess herself.

Eileen said:(and don't get carried away with the insults, I have a swift kick that never misses the mid mark.

Gotcha scared with this part don't I!!!!

Heath's resume was kinda weak....but if nobody runs against him he will automatically win. Do we have anyone willing to run against him?

Heath: Who will be your Deputy Legion Leader?
Also, I think I would like to hear a campaign speech.

Liberty's Edge

" A turnip in every pot."

Now I'll hold some babies.

Weak?

You wup up on 8 Green Lanterns, asleep or whatever, and tell me that's weak. Some people just ain't impressed by nothin'.


Heathansson wrote:

" A turnip in every pot."

Now I'll hold some babies.

Weak?

You wup up on 8 Green Lanterns, asleep or whatever, and tell me that's weak. Some people just ain't impressed by nothin'.

I'm impressed by heroics and the Legion leader setting a good example for the others. So your holding babies and turnip comments is your campaign speech

OK....NEXT!


hmm I reject the idea of leadership as a basis of good form; all forms of government are faulty and lead to tyranny and despotism; my projections of each legion member as leader show in the long run ultimate failure and corruption; the course of action with projections that range the longest without ultimate failure is; leader of the day; the moment such as a crisis or leaders for different situations; one overall leader of such powerful entities on a long time basis is doomed.


Valegrim wrote:
hmm I reject the idea of leadership as a basis of good form; all forms of government are faulty and lead to tyranny and despotism; my projections of each legion member as leader show in the long run ultimate failure and corruption; the course of action with projections that range the longest without ultimate failure is; leader of the day; the moment such as a crisis or leaders for different situations; one overall leader of such powerful entities on a long time basis is doomed.

Hey, you signed it.....a piece from the Legion Constitution (Wikedpedia reference, originally from precrisis LSH)

6.0 LEADERSHIP
6.1 Each year the active members of the Legion of Super-Heroes shall select a Leader and a Deputy Leader from among the full-time active members in a manner conforming to the requirements of Sections 8.2, 8.3 and 8.4 hereunder.
6.2 The Leader and Deputy Leader shall serve for concurrent one-year terms and may be re-elected for consecutive terms.
6.3 In the event of the resignation, expulsion, leave, death or incapacity of:
(i) the Leader, the Deputy Leader shall become Leader and shall appoint a new Deputy Leader;
(ii) the Deputy Leader, the Leader shall appoint a new Deputy Leader; or
(iii) both the Leader and the Deputy Leader, the senior active member shall serve as temporary Leader, with a new Leader and Deputy Leader to be selected at the first opportunity in a manner conforming to the requirements of Sections 8.2, 8.3 and 8.4 hereunder.
6.4 The Leader shall be the supreme commander of the Legion of Super-Heroes, answerable only to the United Planets Authorities and restricted only by the applicable provisions of this Constitution.
6.5 The Leader may authorize the Deputy Leader or any active member as an acting or temporary or team Leader with an appropriate portion of the Leader's authority hereunder.
6.6 Members shall, in all instances, be required to obey the orders of the Leader and/or the Leader's duly authorized representative, so long as such orders conform to this Constitution.
6.7 The Leader may be suspended temporarily by a unanimous vote of the standing Committee on Constitutional Matters, and such suspension shall last only until a court-martial may be held as provided in Section 4 hereunder.
6.8 The Leader is responsible for the funds of the Legion of Super-Heroes under Section 1.3 hereunder and shall have the full freedom to use those funds to fulfill the purposes and requirements of this Constitution.

To late to change your mind now.

Liberty's Edge

Nobody's runnin agin me. That mean I win???

I want Scrappy Doo to be my Vice Admiral or whatever. That way, nobody'll wanna do the job on me.


Heathansson wrote:

Nobody's runnin agin me. That mean I win???

I want Scrappy Doo to be my Vice Admiral or whatever. That way, nobody'll wanna do the job on me.

I'm sorry Heath, you'll have to give your fellow Legionnaires more time than that to declare yourself as the only candidate. Lets at least get through the next couple of days. Or do you have plans to conquer the universe and so you want to rush things?

Did you see the first Scooby Doo live movie? If you recall, Scrappy kinda did the job on Daffny

Dark Archive

Yikes, I have to join now? The Legion of Substitute Heroes sounds like a flashy futuristic name for sidekicks. Not knowing the LoSH guidelines my super power for as long as I can remember has been superhuman artistic wit but my weakness is brittle teeth and hypochondria. Some have called me Mortellan or Mr Glass or my favorite the Mighty Sore.


mortellan wrote:
Yikes, I have to join now? The Legion of Substitute Heroes sounds like a flashy futuristic name for sidekicks. Not knowing the LoSH guidelines my super power for as long as I can remember has been superhuman artistic wit but my weakness is brittle teeth and hypochondria. Some have called me Mortellan or Mr Glass or my favorite the Mighty Sore.

As far as the Legion of Substitute Heroes is concerned, you can see if they will let you join, it isn't up to us core Legionnaires. Please understand though, that everyone in the Substitute Legion was rejected for membership in the Legion itself. In every case, their powers did not meet up to the requirements we place upon members of the Legion fo Super-Heroes.

Mort, I think I can help you with understanding the qualifications of a Legionnaire, as I will provide you a glimpse of our Legion Constitution (essentially our by laws).(Again, thank Wikipedia for giving us a copy of the actual Legion Constitution as written by DC comics). Section 2.0 and 3.0 should cover most of your questions Mort.

2.0 MEMBERSHIP

2.1 There shall be three classes of membership in the Legion of Super-Heroes: active members, who shall be limited to no more than twenty-five (25) sentient beings; honorary and reserve members, of whom there may be an unlimited number.

2.2 Active members shall be those duly qualified and elected individuals who shall be on call twenty-four (24) Terran standard hours per Terran standard day (except as provided in Sections 2.3 and 4.2 hereof), and who shall devote substantially all of their time to the Legion of Super-Heroes.

2.3 Notwithstanding the foregoing Section 2.2, Superboy may be considered to have status as an active member at any time there is an opening in the membership by agreeing to devote a significant portion of his time to activities of the Legion of Super-Heroes. Honorary members shall be those worthy individuals who do not quality for active membership hereunder, but whom the active membership wishes to honor with inclusion in the Legion of Super-Heroes. Reserve members shall be those duly qualified end elected individuals who shall be prepared to take action in the event of an emergency when the active members require assistance or are unable to respond, and who shall devote such reasonable portions of their time to Legion of Super-Heroes duties as the Leader may from time to time require.

3.0 ADMISSION TO MEMBERS

3.1 To qualify for active membership, a candidate must:
(i) be at the time of proposed admission under the age of eighteen (18), as measured on the Terran comparative physiological age scale (as periodically revised by the United Planets);
(ii) have at least one genuine super-power not activated, assisted, or powered by extrinsic means and not possessed by the contemporary Terran population; and further, such super-power must be distinct from toe super-power(s) possessed by any active member other than Superboy;
(iii) be able to fully control such power; and
(iv) be courageous and of good character. Candidates may be proposed tor membership by any member or may propose themselves on such occasions when the Legion of Super-Heroes may announce a willingness to examine candidates.

3.2 Candidates are subject to evaluation by the standing the Committee on Membership to determine the candidates' qualifications and merits, including any reasonable testing procedures the Committee may deem necessary and desirable. The results of such evaluation shall then be presented to the membership by the chairperson of such Committee, along with the candidate.

3.3 Voting on new active members shall then take place as provided in Sections 8.2 and 8.3 hereunder. Candidates elected shall be promptly inducted into active membership.

3.4 Worthy candidates not elected may be elected to reserve membership status, or may reapply for active membership at a later date, or may receive a token of the respect of the Legion of Super-Heroes as the leader may see fit to award.

3.5 After election and induction, new active members shall undergo a training period as the standing Committee on Membership shall see fit, prior to assuming their duties. Such training may or may not include a period at the Legion Academy.

3.6 In times of emergency, any team of active members may grant provisional active membership to an individual they deem worthy who is assisting in the resolution of such emergency. Upon the resolution of such emergency, such provisional active member shall immediately become a candidate for active membership as provided hereunder.

3.7 Candidates for honorary membership may be proposed for membership by any active member. Candidates are subject to evaluation by the standing Committee on Membership to determine their merits. The results of such evaluation shall then be presented to the membership by the Chairperson of such Committee.

3.8 Voting on new honorary members shall then take place as provided in Sections 8.2 and 8.3 hereunder. Candidates elected shall be promptly informed of such election and offered honorary membership and, upon their acceptance of same, shall be promptly inducted as honorary members.

3.9 To qualify for reserve membership, a candidate must be either:
(i) a former active member;
(ii) an honorary member;
(iii) a member d the Legion of Substitute Heroes in gut standing; or
(iv) a worthy candidate for active membership not elected to active membership.

3.10 Candidtes for reserve membership may be proposed to membership by any active member. Candidates are subject to evaluaton by the standing Committee on Membership to determine their qualifications and merits, including any reasonable testing procedures the Committee may deem necessary or desirable. The results of such evaluation shall then be presented to the membership by the chairperson of such Committee, along with the candidate.

3.11 Voting on new reserve members shall then take place as provided in Sections 8.2 and 8.3 hereunder. Candidates elected shall be promptly inducted into reserve membership.

3.12 After election and induction. new reserve members shall undergo a training period as the standing Committee on Membership shall see fit, prior to assuming their duties. Such training may or may no, include a period at the Legion Academy.


wow; girl you need a hobbie; oh wait; this is a hobby :)

Dark Archive

Oh okay, looks like I am too old for the Legion. I suppose that will give me no alternative but to turn...super-villain? *raises eyebrow*


Valegrim wrote:
wow; girl you need a hobbie; oh wait; this is a hobby :)

Research for the game! Can't have a role playing game without tons of data. Actually I came across it while browsing for pictures of Legionnaires and saved it because I knew I would want it in the game book. The whole thing is a like 10 pages long or so.

Ok, on a different note....I'm still far from completing the character creation process, but I have a request for those who are interested in participating....basically for the heck of it. If anyone has interesting ideas for original, serious, home made super villains which would present interesting challenges to the Legion or fit well into the 30th century, I would love to see them. If you want to post real Legion Super villains that would be neat as well. In such cases, try and give me a reference in comic books so I can go back and read about them. If I don't have the same issue as you do, ah well....such is life. Please don't post any versions of actual villains that exist for Spiderman, etc. Feel free to post it here for everyone to enjoy.

As mentioned before, the game is for my home use only, not actual distribution. If I find something I like a lot, I would throw it into the game with the individual's permission. If your not comfortable sending ideas for any reason it is completely understandable.

Basically, the information I would be looking for includes....

1. Power.....give me an example of a Legion member or villain they would be comparable to in regards to overall powerfulness. Example, Validus is said to be more powerful than Superboy. Below (at the bottom of the post) you will see a list of descriptive words which are essentially a rating of how good your villain is in their power, these are called "categories". Each different usage of a power should get it's own rating. For example, a character who can produce cold would have

A. produce snow (give them a rating)
B (produce ice (give them a rating)
C. Shape the ice into objects ex. a cage (give it a rating)
D. Increase or decrease cold temperatures (give it a rating)

2. Origin

3. Home world basic information

4. Motivation

5. Appearance

6. Stats for these basic scores....The actual scores are those designated with the dot, not thost such as "Combat or Might". Use the descriptive words below just as you did for powers. In the game, these scores are being called Traits.

Combat: This is the ability to physically battle opponents utilizing raw ability and training.

• Fighting: The individual’s raw and trained capability of attacking and defending in hand-to-hand combat.
• Agility: A measure of dexterous motions applied towards combat maneuvers and similarly dangerous actions. At this point also used for speed.
• Aim: The ability to effectively direct a ranged attack at a target.

Might: This is a measure of physical strength, energy release, and the absorption of physical damage. The traits are as follows:

• Strength: A measure of physical might as applied towards lifting and throwing.
• Energy: The amount of power generated from a specific energy.
• Toughness: The ability to absorb physical damage.

Mental: A measure of thought related strength. The traits are as follows:

• Intellect: The measure of intelligence in thought provoking subject matter.
• Concentration: The ability to direct attention to a difficult task.
• Psyche: The ability to project mental energy.

Influence: A determination of leadership qualities and the ability to influence others. The traits are as follows:

• Deception: The ability to mislead others resulting from the use of trickery.
• Leadership: The ability to command and persuade others effectively.
• Allure: The physical attractiveness of an individual.

Guidance: A measure of chance and universal importance. The traits are as follows:
• Luck: Fortune both good and bad resulting from random events.
• Fate: A predetermined outcome related to one’s being.
• Spirit: Increase or decrease of ability based on spirituality.

Also, currently this is the scale in which to rate your power category and traits. As mentioned before, I decided to go with terms like this rather than numbers because it seems so more super-heroish. They are ranked in order from lowest to highest. Give each ability score a rating (I'm calling them traits), as well as power.

Feeble, Weak, Typical, Significant, Good, Exceptional, Remarkable, Outstanding, Astonishing, Incredible, Amazing, Heroic, Powerful, Epic, Unearthly, Ultra, Super, Galactic, Universal, Godlike, Infinite

Each power has a trait (or traits) corresponding to it (depending upon the power and how it is used). Each trait has a category as well. The average Legionnaire has a power category ranging from Outstanding to Heroic. Superboy tops out at the Super category, Validus somewhere around Universal. The average trait for a Legionnaire for a non-power related ability score (say for example Triplicate Girl and Intellect), ranges from Good to Remarkable. Hopefully I didn't make this confusing. This should give us some basic guidlines for those creating a villain.

At least at this point.....


mortellan wrote:
Oh okay, looks like I am too old for the Legion. I suppose that will give me no alternative but to turn...super-villain? *raises eyebrow*

Sigh, sadly, this seems to be what most people want to play. Evil characters.....well, I guess without villains, we Legionnaires would be out of a job. OK, Mort you need the following things...

1. At least one power or the equivelant which makes you a super threat to the universe.

2. A background which results in your evilness coming to being.

3. A motivation to carry you through many issues of Legion comics, for at least another 40 years or so.

5. A homeworld

6. A starting conflict in order to draw the reader in right away.

8. A cool looking costume of some sorts.

9. You'll also need to write a 100 word essasy on "What it means to be a super villain".

10. Didn't have a 10th idea, but included it because it seemed dumb to end with only 9.

Phantom Girl.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
mortellan wrote:
Oh okay, looks like I am too old for the Legion. I suppose that will give me no alternative but to turn...super-villain? *raises eyebrow*

Sigh, sadly, this seems to be what most people want to play. Evil characters.....well, I guess without villains, we Legionnaires would be out of a job. OK, Mort you need the following things...

1. At least one power or the equivelant which makes you a super threat to the universe.

2. A background which results in your evilness coming to being.

3. A motivation to carry you through many issues of Legion comics, for at least another 40 years or so.

5. A homeworld

6. A starting conflict in order to draw the reader in right away.

8. A cool looking costume of some sorts.

9. You'll also need to write a 100 word essasy on "What it means to be a super villain".

10. Didn't have a 10th idea, but included it because it seemed dumb to end with only 9.

Phantom Girl.

Having rules for super villains to follow makes about as much sense as a catfish with a scuba tank, doncha think? ;)


Heathansson wrote:
Having rules for super villains to follow makes about as much sense as a catfish with a scuba tank, doncha think? ;)

Heck no, I was trying to get him into character. Besides, Mort laughed at my 4th edition D&D joke so he gets special treatment.

Liberty's Edge

Chuck Norris said vote for me; the other guy's too old.


Heathansson wrote:
Chuck Norris said vote for me; the other guy's too old.

Mort has to get in before he can run. I thought Chuck Norris tried out and didn't make the team because we already had Karate Kid. I mean he tried and all, but I saw the two sparring and....well....Chuck just didn't hold his own very well. Sorry...I know your a big fan of his. I guess the Substitute Legion might have room for him.

Liberty's Edge

Chuck Norris shot down a fighter jet by pointing his index finger and saying, "bang." He'll get in.


Eileen said:
Chuck just didn't hold his own very well. Sorry...I know your a big fan of his. I guess the Substitute Legion might have room for him.

Heathansson wrote:
Chuck Norris shot down a fighter jet by pointing his index finger and saying, "bang." He'll get in.

So then, we agree that he won't have any problem getting into the Legion of Substitute Heroes. I knew if we searched long enough Heath, we would find common ground in which to agree. Ain't these message boards just great. They bring two strangers together from far away lands only to agree on the fate of Chuck Norris. By the way, does he make movies anymore? All I see him on is those bowflex (or some similar sort of exercise machine)commercials!

Liberty's Edge

I was born in Minneapolis; I am strange, though.


Heathansson wrote:
I was born in Minneapolis; I am strange, though.

Yes you were! I am from Minnesota as well, but I think that was mentioned before. But now you are in Texas and I'm still stuck up here in the snow. It's absolutely freezing up here today, heck of a wind, very low temperatures. I think I'd rather be on a tropical island somewhere eating coconuts and pineapples,(and not Gilligan's island either). As far as being strange....I'll take your word for it. I have noted 374 pecularities so far.

So Heath, what kind of Legion comic collection do you have?


I have a whole bunch of villains I have created for my Champions games over the years; your welcome to them if you like; I can send you a blurb about some of them; have individuals; small and big teams.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
I was born in Minneapolis; I am strange, though.

Yes you were! I am from Minnesota as well, but I think that was mentioned before. But now you are in Texas and I'm still stuck up here in the snow. It's absolutely freezing up here today, heck of a wind, very low temperatures. I think I'd rather be on a tropical island somewhere eating coconuts and pineapples,(and not Gilligan's island either). As far as being strange....I'll take your word for it. I have noted 374 pecularities so far.

So Heath, what kind of Legion comic collection do you have?

I bought the last 2 ish's, and really dug the art. You've infected me.

I have an old Mike Grell art somewhere, and about 5-10 from the Giffen era, and a few of the mando paper issues from around the early 80's, the same time Omega Men started with that.
I also had the Green Lanterns with the Omega Men's first appearance; DC wise I had a bunch of the New Teen Titans from around issues 1-20 or so.
Nowadays, I mainly pick up The Goon and The Superman All Star with the art by (have to look his name up; drew The Authority).
I picked up the first few issues a few years ago of the Legion.
I was mainly into the X-Men, but the whole Dave Cockrum thing recently soured me on Marvel; it just smacked of hypocrisy.

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