Who could whup Conan?


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Could Conan beat Mecha-Conan?

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The Jade wrote:
Could Conan beat Mecha-Conan?

That is the riddle of steel.


I wonder how he'd fair against a Predator, fully equiped, the Cimmerian clad only in a hide loin cloth, high-strapped sandals, a notched broadsword clutched in an iron hand.

I also wonder how Conan would fair against Howard's other characters, like Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, and Kull.


The Jade wrote:
Could Conan beat Mecha-Conan?
Heathansson wrote:
That is the riddle of steel.

"Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger!" Conan wins -- Thulsa Doom says so.

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Crust wrote:

I wonder how he'd fair against a Predator, fully equiped, the Cimmerian clad only in a hide loin cloth, high-strapped sandals, a notched broadsword clutched in an iron hand.

I also wonder how Conan would fair against Howard's other characters, like Solomon Kane, Bran Mak Morn, and Kull.

The predators hunted him back in Hyborian times; he was the first human to win. He killed 8 of them.

They've been returning to earth for 10,000 years trying in vain to find another worthy match.
Since REH wrote the other guys, it'd be close, but Conan would probably takem.


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Well Conan is just a warrior-sneak type right? A badass warrior-sneak, but still there are plenty of those in literature. Heck I don't even have to find a different author to find characters who could whup Conan ...

This is what makes me laugh about you guys.

What you fail to realize is that your favorite modern hero is really just a Conan derivative to begin with. Or should I say the author is a Conan wanna-be.

Conan was given to us by the hand of Crom. Bow to Conan or sleep in hell!


I just got done re-reading "The Frost-Giant's Daughter". I love that one!

"THE CLANGOR of sword and ax had died away; the shouting of the slaughter was hushed; silence lay on the red-stained snow."

It is rapture. REH gives us a glimpse of the entrance way to Valhalla.

What is your favorite Conan story?

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Queen of the Black Coast.


Heathansson wrote:
Could a channeler whup up on Yoda?

Hm, Yoda vs. a channeler...I couldn't say who would win. In the end I'd put my money on the channeler just because I like WoT better than Star Wars.

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Lose your money you would. A channeller could Yoda whup up on. Yes.

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Tensor wrote:

I just got done re-reading "The Frost-Giant's Daughter". I love that one!

"THE CLANGOR of sword and ax had died away; the shouting of the slaughter was hushed; silence lay on the red-stained snow."

It is rapture. REH gives us a glimpse of the entrance way to Valhalla.

What is your favorite Conan story?

Hour of the Dragon.


Lamont Cranston knows: the Shadow would whup Conan.

Leela from Futurama would kick Conan's but with her eye closed.

Fedor Emelianenko would make Conan tap out in 30 seconds.

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Dr Spy Man wrote:
The man, the myth, the legend Drizzt Do'Urden could whup Conan to nothing. Drizzt baby. He wouldn't even need to call Guenhwyvar. Google it if you are clue-less.

Not only could Drizzt not defeat Conan, the Weenie @$$ Drow wouldn't even last three seconds before he started whining and angsting. I'd put better odds on Kirk. (Though now thoughts of overweight Arnie, and tubby Shatner trying to fight one another are making me chortle)

Bill Lumberg wrote:

Lamont Cranston knows: the Shadow would whup Conan.

Leela from Futurama would kick Conan's but with her eye closed.

Fedor Emelianenko would make Conan tap out in 30 seconds.

Conan kills people... though cool, none of these guys would even make an impression.

Now the original Conan Series has been spoken of. Since I own the original printings I'm happy to list them off for everyone.

They are
1. Conan
2. Conan of Cimmeria
3. Conan the Freebooter
4. Conan the Wanderer
5. Conan the Adventurer
6. Conan the Buccaneer
7. Conan the Warrior
8. Conan the Usurper
9. Conan the Conqueror
10. Conan the Avenger
11. Conan of Aquilonia
12. Conan of the Isles

That list is no less then three different series by R.E. Howard, Lin Carter, L. Sprague De Camp and Bjorn Nyberg. My father and I have done our best arrange them into a chronological order of Conan's life. The last two novels weren't even written by Howard. And considering that Howard was a contemporary of Lovecraft, and shared some of tendencies to encourage others to use his creations, its no surprise that Lin Carter stole his thunder to ride to fame on. Having read much of Howard’s other works, I know that the author hated the character (Conan) and wanted to write more historical fiction. But even he could not defeat the Barbarians will to live.

But if we want to talk about Characters who can defeat Conan? Well He got beaten enough in the stories, Either by mobs, or by supremely skilled individuals. He’s been sold as a slave enough times to evidence that. Some say that Silke and Franzetta's; Gath of Baal could top him. Others that some of Howard’s other characters, such as Kull, Solomon Kane, Bran Mac Morn, Black Vulmea. Or maybe some of Moorcocks characters? Elric and Conan clashed in the comics, but in keeping with the purer fiction the Novels, Elric, or any of the other Eternal Champions such as Corum would be a much stiffer challenge. Perhaps Lin Carters own Ganelon Silvermane? Historically speaking I would say that Gilgamesh, or Beowulf could definitely take Conan, to say nothing of Heraclese, or Yamato Date. King Arthur Probably couldn't stand against him on his own per say, but having a magic sword with a scabbard that heals all your wounds, as well as a whole order of knights. Gives the good king a certain edge. Lancelot Du Lac could take him, though Conan's willingness to ignore Chivalry would definitely make him a tough opponent.

But if you want to stay with D&D then IMO theres only one character that has a chance against Conan. Warduke, He's been around forever, he's not afraid to go in face to face and mix it up, and just like Conan he's not afraid to cheat, groin punch, and fight dirty to Make it happen.

There, my 2 bits and a Pound.


Heathansson wrote:
"Conan. Tell them what is best in life."

Crush your enemies

See them driven before you
and to hear the lamindations of the women!

Crom!


Jesus Christmas, this thread is growing fast! Someday, I'll read a Conan novel and find out why y'all like him so much. And on second thought, Heathy you're right about Yoda beating at least some channelers.

Rand al'Thor v. Yoda: Yoda stands behind a woman jedi, and Rand refuses to attack and is summarily run through.

Nynaeve though would kick ass.

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That's not a woman jedi. It's Hayden Christenson.


Heathansson wrote:
That's not a woman jedi. It's Hayden Christenson.

NICE!

Young Darth Vader was a girl with a lazy eye. Precious.

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Fathom wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
"Conan. Tell them what is best in life."

Crush your enemies

See them driven before you
and to hear the lamindations of the women!

Crom!

Goooooood, Conan.

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The Jade wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
That's not a woman jedi. It's Hayden Christenson.

NICE!

Young Darth Vader was a girl with a lazy eye. Precious.

As was the Cat in the Hat explication elsewhere. I'd've toltcha there, but I have to stay away from that thread. There's lakes of bile in hell, they say.


my favorite Conan quote:

"Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is an illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and I am content."

— Robert E. Howard, "Queen of the Black Coast"


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Something for all of you Conan fans!

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Crom!


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Something for all of you Conan fans!

I am not saying your interpretation is wrong (I like it,) but have you taken into consideration his stately political skills (by age 55 he was King wasn’t he), his language abilities, not to mention his skill as a sailor and as a horseman? I think you have him a few inches too tall.

Other than that – cool! I think I'll drop this guy on my party and see what happens?

Opinions/Comments/Questions ?

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Tensor wrote:

Other than that – cool! I think I'll drop this guy on my party and see what happens?

Opinions/Comments/Questions ?

Yah. Do you think they could whup him? ;D


Tensor wrote:
I am not saying your interpretation is wrong (I like it,) but have you taken into consideration his stately political skills (by age 55 he was King wasn’t he), his language abilities, not to mention his skill as a sailor and as a horseman? I think you have him a few inches too tall.

Oh, I know next to nothing about Conan. I've read one short story, which was part of a fantasy compilation, and I've seen about 20 minutes of 2 Conan movies (don't know which ones). I just wrote him up as a d&d character to see how many 'hey, that's not Conan!' responses I could get. From what I've heard, Conan probably can't be accurately statted for d&d because it sounds like he's just good at everything.

Here to cause trouble,
TS


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Oh, I know next to nothing about Conan. I've read one short story, which was part of a fantasy compilation, and I've seen about 20 minutes of 2 Conan movies (don't know which ones). I just wrote him up as a d&d character to see how many 'hey, that's not Conan!' responses I could get. From what I've heard, Conan probably can't be accurately statted for d&d because it sounds like he's just good at everything.

I think you can construct him with D&D 3.5 -- you just have to start with straight 18s.

It's too bad you haven't gotten into or read much of the original material -- as Tensor said, it's magical, and has rarely (if ever) been equaled in the genre.

As far as the movies went, the first was fun to watch, and perhaps caught some of the feel of the Conan mythology. The second movie was nothing short of vomitous.

Regards,

Jack


Which author is the 'magical' one? (and presumeably Conan's creator?) I'm getting back into reading fantasy novels seriously, so I'll put Conan on my list.

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Robert E. Howard.
Robert Jordan wrote a few too.
I've never read any of his stuff, but I guess if you liked Wheel of Time he'd be right up your alley...

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"Why do you cry?"
"He is Conan. A Cimmerian. He will not cry. So I must cry for HIM!!!"

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The Florida Gators could whup Conan.

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The florida gators haven't even one the super bowl. No way they beat Conan.
Who could though? here are potential cadidates.

Conan vs Ash (Evil Dead/Army of Darkness) - Result: Conan, but Ash is to cool to get on conan's blacklist.

Conan vs Chuck Norris - Result: Chuck Norris could win but would
let Conan win as he is one of the only two men to ever exist that he would take the fall for, the other was Bruce Lee.

Conan vs St. of Killers(PREACHER comic book) - Toss up as both could and have killed god and both prettymuch kill anything they hit. That and again, the wolrd would proably end before the fight was finnished.

Conan vs Any Character from Dragon Ball Z - Obvious victory because even if it took him multiple hits to kill them, they would be too busy screaming themselves into a crater to accually fight.

Conan vs Guts (Bezerk Manga) - Another Tossup though since they're both swordsmen, the entire world would not end, just most of Europe.

Silver Crusade

Dick Cheney could should Conan in the face.


Groundskeeper Willie would crush Conan.

Go Aberdeen!

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Bill Lumberg wrote:

Groundskeeper Willie would crush Conan.

Go Aberdeen!

"Call tha' a soccer riot? Cmon lads, let's takem to School!"

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Dr Spy Man wrote:
The man, the myth the legend Drizzt Do'Urden could whup Conan to nothing. Drizzt baby. He wouldn't even need to call Guenhwyvar. Google it if you are clue-less.

Conan, while blindfolded and with his hands tied behind his back, could kick Drizzt's ass. Drizzt wouldn't have a chance. However, if Artemis Entreri and Conan fought, my money'd be on Entreri. No matter that Drizzt beat Entreri; it was only beacuse the 'Lone Drow' had his frie-ends with him, and Entreri was going it alone.

Also, Ash from Army of Darkness, Hellboy, 23 from Swerve, and Ozzy Osbourne could all whip Conan in a 1-on-1 fight. And Colonel (now General) Jack O'Neill could beat 10 Conans! Even if All the Conans were implanted with Goa'uld symbiotes and covered in bulletproof armor!

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Also, Ash from Army of Darkness, Hellboy, 23 from Swerve, and Ozzy Osbourne could all whip Conan in a 1-on-1 fight.

Umm...Ozzy couldn't whip butter at the present without having a cosmic freakout; I understand he was quite the Billy Badarse in his day and all....


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Also, Ash from Army of Darkness, Hellboy, 23 from Swerve, and Ozzy Osbourne could all whip Conan...

Teletubbies -- worse than cutting oxygen off from the brain; Conan would be helpless within seconds.

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Tatterdemalion wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Also, Ash from Army of Darkness, Hellboy, 23 from Swerve, and Ozzy Osbourne could all whip Conan...
Teletubbies -- worse than cutting oxygen off from the brain; Conan would be helpless within seconds.

Now they got them Boobahs. I don't know what any of that is. They fart and fly around. I'm not making this up, either!

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Marv from Sin City would wipe the floor with Conan. After that, who knows what he would do to him...

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Vattnisse wrote:
Marv from Sin City would wipe the floor with Conan. After that, who knows what he would do to him...

I don't know about that. Marv was pretty bad, but Conan was a Cimmerian from the craggy windswept hills. He was always fighting wolves with a rusty stewfork, so not only was he strong, he was also faster than that little psycho karate nerd that whooped up on Marv. He was pantherlike in a lot of ways.

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You will recall, however, that once Marv finally got his hands on Kung Fu Frodo, it was all over, and the same will be true for that loincloth-clad Fabio lookalike. Pussycat-like speed will not help you against Marv - he is implacable and indestructible, slowly but surely grinding you down.


REH could kick Conan's ass.

Not in an actual fight, of course. But all it would take would be REH writing, "And then he died."

Of course, that would take a bit of resurrection and probably a domination effect, so my money is on the high level vampire cleric.

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Vattnisse wrote:
You will recall, however, that once Marv finally got his hands on Kung Fu Frodo, it was all over, and the same will be true for that loincloth-clad Fabio lookalike. Pussycat-like speed will not help you against Marv - he is implacable and indestructible, slowly but surely grinding you down.

Crom! I can't believe it's not baddur!!!


Dogbert would not sully his paws on a dirty barbarian. He would confuse Conan's tiny mind then have Bob the Dinosaur dispatch him with a loincloth-wedgie.

Lord Flashheart would be too busy shagging Red Sonja to whup Conan. He would tell Conan to bash his own head in against some rocks. Conan would realize the futility of trying to best Flash and would obey.

Wuff!

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There's no way anybody played by Rik Mayall could whup Conan.


KORGOTH THE BARBARIAN could take Conan.
(and korgoths only got one episode of a cartoon.)
(though im suspicious that korgoth might be Conan's illegitimate son)

HE-MAN might could take him. I only say that bc He-mans got a posse.

PROFESSER X could take him to town, easilly making Conan his slave.

and a fight id wanna see?
Conan v.s. Riddick


What about Tomas from the Riftwar saga?


Heathansson wrote:
There's no way anybody played by Rik Mayall could whup Conan.

"Blasphemer! You'll smoke a turd in Hell for saying that!"

(I know I am not the only one who remembers that movie)

Also, Vyvyan would have head-butted the big oaf back into the Hyborian Age. That is, of course, unless Conan outsmarted him. That would not be difficult.

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Vyvyan would be too busy beating Rick Mayall with a cricket bat to alleviate his boredom to give Conan much trouble.

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