Pathfinder Flip-Tiles: Dungeon Starter Set

These look amazing! I like where this is heading. My only concern is how many people will balk at the increased price in spite of the increased content.

EDIT: Just saw that the expansion packs beyond this are not much higher priced than the Map-packs! Concern averted! :)

Design request:

Could you please put a unique alpha-numeric coding on each tile face?

I want to be able to layout the tiles, note their serial numbers, sweep them up and put them away, and then easily reassemble that layout next week or next month from my layout diagram.

"Take a photo" is not a good answer. I don't want to have to peer at part of an image and then try to find the same pixels and orientation by visually scanning a bunch of similar little pictures. A photo of the layout is useless if I can't quickly identify the specific tile face and its position in the layout.

Excellent suggestion, CrystalSeas! I second it.

Do the squares not line up with the edge of the tiles? The picture show there is a spacing between the square line and the edge. This would make it difficult to place them edge-to-edge. Or did the designer expect us to have the tiles placed overlapping each other?

I'd prefer there to be no text on the tiles as it breaks immersion. It looks bad on the Traps and Treasures pawns and I don't think it would look good here. Really, writing down a sequence of tile numbers then finding said tiles would not be faster than something like looking at a photo as you will still need to account for the facing of the tiles.

Please Paizo, no text on these, it worked fine for the map packs and they look great.

These look fantastic! I using the reverse side of the tiles is an idea that seems almost intuitive to use, doubling the product while not increasing the size of packaging and etc. I’m hoping that since these are listed as “tiles” and ARE double-sided that they are being printed on something sturdier than the usual card stock used in the Map Packs. Something thicker, like the Pawns are printed on.

As a PFS GM, I can easily picture these being used for an Interactive Special or Evergreen scenario in the near future!

Good move making them all 6X6. I'll be checking these out!

Dotting for interest.

Nice

Does this set contain any duplicate tiles? Things like the intersections, hallways, and rooms would probably be useful to have multiple copies of.

If no duplicates in the starter set, it may be useful for some of the tiles in the expansion sets to have one side be generic (a repeat of a tile in the starter set) whereas the other side is themed to that expansion.

generally interesting
they look like there is a fraction of a square around the edge, that would not be good on the final product: we‘d either have to modify every single tile or place them overlapping to make a seamless dungeon.

I'll just imagine the extra space isn't there.

This is a great concept, and I hope it works better off in the long run. I like the two-sided tiles I have from similar old 3e/4e D&D products, and that they are marker-safe like the Flip=Mats.

Question: Pictured are 21 unique tile images (uncropped, I assume - to account for the edges), and since the set "features 42 full-color 6 x 6-inch map tiles, with dungeon corridors and room pieces on both sides," does this mean there are 21x 2-sided tiles with 42 images, or 42x 2-sided tiles with 84 images? Either way, the assumption is that only a portion of the tile set is currently being displayed, prior to release and distribution.

Thanks. Looking forward to it.

I love the map pack series, so it is sad to see it come to an end. It does seem like a good time as most scenarios that I can imagine have been covered. There is always room for more dungeon variations, so I suppose using it to kickstart a new map style is the way to go.

Wait WAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAT?

Will not succumb to maps addiction, will not succumb to maps addiction, will not succumb...... WANT WANT WANT!

Question: Pictured are 21 unique tile images (uncropped, I assume - to account for the edges), and since the set "features 42 full-color 6 x 6-inch map tiles, with dungeon corridors and room pieces on both sides," does this mean there are 21x 2-sided tiles with 42 images, or 42x 2-sided tiles with 84 images?

I believe that "42 tiles...with images on both sides" means 84 sides/images.

That's correct.

Thanks, Samy. I was hoping to assume that as well, but was just looking for confirmation.

I have been drafting some maps relevant to Starfinder, both for Flip-Mat layout, as well as some accompanying modular tiles in this vein. I would like to make sure they are appropriately formatted for standard use, and had a similar question on a Flip-Mat product thread [here] regarding the standard-sized vs. over-sized Flip-Mat format, and if this was a new standard.

PS: Thanks for confirmation, Vic.

That's correct.

Thank you for confirming, Vic. :-)

Do you already know how the package box is made up?

Is it essentially the same as the old tiles boxes (only thicker to be able to hold more tiles and with 6 x 6 inches measurements), made of the same cardboard or will it be a box?

Thank you for your time.

It's in a 2-piece box.

It's in a 2-piece box.

So it will essentially be like the Bestiary Pawn boxes, only square?

That's great news, as it will make storage much easier.

It shouldn't be as thick & heavy either.

I imagine the Expansion set(s) will be in thin two-part boxes too?

Thank you, Vic! :-)

I'm gonna guess expansions won't have boxes, and will be packaged like Map Packs or Pawn not-box Collections -- with a wraparound paper slip serving as a cover.

I'm gonna guess expansions won't have boxes, and will be packaged like Map Packs or Pawn not-box Collections -- with a wraparound paper slip serving as a cover.

I don´t think so, Samy. Why?

I think these 2-piece boxes are of thinner cardboard than the Pawn boxes, maybe as thick as the map-pack boxes or a little thicker.
They also won´t have to be as high, as the tiles are much thinner as the pawn sheets.

"These double-sided dungeon tiles come in convenient packaging for easy storage."

I stand corrected.

Huzzah for the Semantics Crew! We love our nerdy details! Keeping the Paizo peeps on their toes.... :P

So I assume these won't be as thick as 3.5E Dungeon Tiles. Does that mean they are easily bendable?

Those old dungeon tiles were too thick. Most likely these will be the same as the map packs, just square.

Brother Fen is correct. These will be similar to our current Map Pack tiles except for double-sided and 6"x6" instead of the old 5"x8" single-sided format. The reason we are calling these Flip-Tiles is because they are exactly like our Flip-Mats but smaller tile versions.

Can we get some sample images?

The release of Pathfinder Flip-Tiles: Dungeon Starter Set and Pathfinder Flip-Tiles: Dungeon Perils Expansion has been changed to July.

The release of Pathfinder Flip-Tiles: Dungeon Starter Set and Pathfinder Flip-Tiles: Dungeon Perils Expansion has been changed to July.

That's still in time to use them in conjunction with the Pathfinder Playtest adventure. ;-)

Weight of a box? It is pretty important for us living oversea. Shipping cost is the reason for which I have regretfully suspended the pawn subscription.

Weight of a box? It is pretty important for us living oversea. Shipping cost is the reason for which I have regretfully suspended the pawn subscription.

We'll have the final shipping weight next week, but the current estimate in the system is probably going to be within an ounce or two. Feel free to add it to your cart and start the checkout process to see the shipping estimate for you.

Updated with final product description, image, and samples!

Anti ch'mabers? Holy shit, I have been looking forward to theses monsters for ages!

Looks extremely useful! For the PDFs, though it's critical to have a white background, instead of black, so we can print them economically. Otherwise, I'd pursue using a paint program with a color eraser -- or have to forego the product.

Design request:

Could you please put a unique alpha-numeric coding on each tile face?

I want to be able to layout the tiles, note their serial numbers, sweep them up and put them away, and then easily reassemble that layout next week or next month from my layout diagram.

"Take a photo" is not a good answer. I don't want to have to peer at part of an image and then try to find the same pixels and orientation by visually scanning a bunch of similar little pictures. A photo of the layout is useless if I can't quickly identify the specific tile face and its position in the layout.

Each tile has an alpha-numeric code.

Format: Two-letter code identifying the map group it belongs to (DU for Dungeon as an example) followed by a set number (0 for the starter set, 1 for the first expansion, etc.). Under that code each tile has a two digit number for each tile (01, 02, 03, etc.) followed by an A or B to mark which side of the flip-tile it is.

So the first tile map is marked:

DU0
01A

Its reverse is marked:

DU0
01B

So the first tile map is marked:

DU0
01A

Its reverse is marked:

DU0
01B

Perfect!

It would be nice if there was an index sheet included in the box,
so it wasn't necessary to look through all the tiles to see if there
was one that could be used instead of drawing a custom map.

I know I can create one myself from the PDF, but that's a lot of work!

Would some kind soul be willing to put up a review of this product? Of interest to me would be:

1: Whether there are any duplicate tile faces, such as for more common features like longer hallways;

2: How well they "handle" on the table, such as how neatly they abut one another, how slippery they are (like how easily they can be accidentally knocked around), etc.

3: Ease of storage, organisation, and retrieval.

(For reference, I do not own any flip mats or map packs; I've long thought tiles would be a better approach, and so I'm really excited for these, but I also REALLY want them to be awesome, and it would be great to have other opinions before I go sinking money into them.)

Thanks.

Would some kind soul be willing to put up a review of this product? Of interest to me would be:

1: Whether there are any duplicate tile faces, such as for more common features like longer hallways;

2: How well they "handle" on the table, such as how neatly they abut one another, how slippery they are (like how easily they can be accidentally knocked around), etc.

3: Ease of storage, organisation, and retrieval.

(For reference, I do not own any flip mats or map packs; I've long thought tiles would be a better approach, and so I'm really excited for these, but I also REALLY want them to be awesome, and it would be great to have other opinions before I go sinking money into them.)

Thanks.

You might find this of interest (though I'd suggest skipping to around 14:48; the dude's commentary is painful).

As for #2: They're pretty easy to knock around, depending on the surface on which you place them. For something like a kitchen table, I find putting them down on something like this is helpful. You might also try poster tack, but that might get a bit unwieldy with this many tiles.

That was indeed painful to listen to. The constant comments on lack of color while the expansion set was sitting right there looking all bright and cheery. Ugh.

At least I got to see the tiles though. Well, most of them. The constant flipping and lack of centering the camera for the expansion portion was not at all viewer friendly.

Thanks for sharing.

That was indeed painful to listen to. The constant comments on lack of color while the expansion set was sitting right there looking all bright and cheery. Ugh.

At least I got to see the tiles though. Well, most of them. The constant flipping and lack of centering the camera for the expansion portion was not at all viewer friendly.

Thanks for sharing.

Anytime. FYI the last few minutes of the video show each tile in succession nicely centered. ;-)

Ah, I stopped at about the 14:00 mark.

My subscription copy of this (and the dungeon perils expansion) just arrived.

Full marks to the care and thought that went into this - they've clearly been designed with usefulness in mind. I loved the fact there's room for a couple of expansions to fit in this box. I loved the fact you included half a dozen dividers. I loved the fact the box wasn't a super-snug fit (the one the expansion set came in was a little tight for me)

I haven't used them in play yet, but from flipping them around it seems to me you've done a good job in including useful tiles - perhaps I would have liked more rooms and fewer corridors, but given the obvious expandability, that's not going to be an issue for long.

The little code identifying each tile are small enough to be unobtrusive and large enough to be legible.

I really think you've done a great job with this evolution of the map line.

Out of curiosity, is there any chance of these being shifted to JPG or other image files for VTTs?

Strange request years after these have already released, but what are the odds you guys update the (current) PDF only files for each of the digital versions with a JPG download with no security text essentially giving the customer's identity away, like you do with all newer released tile products? I want to use these for my VTT games, but the idea of having random people be able to see my IRL name and email account just looks like a recipe for bad outcomes.

As is, I had to use a free trial of Adobe just to convert the PDFs into a usable file, and while I'm not claiming to be computer savvy in any way, it's a weird hurdle you're asking your customers to go through for a product that frankly isn't particularly cheap for what you're getting.