Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Planar Adventures

I do like that one piece of art from 3.5 of a Vrock and Rakshasa arguing over a tactical map at a table while a incucbus/human form pit fiend is reading a book and looking annoyed.

I do like that one piece of art from 3.5 of a Vrock and Rakshasa arguing over a tactical map at a table while a incucbus/human form pit fiend is reading a book and looking annoyed.

Savage Species, pg. 196, for the curious. ^_^

Rysky wrote:

I do like that one piece of art from 3.5 of a Vrock and Rakshasa arguing over a tactical map at a table while a incucbus/human form pit fiend is reading a book and looking annoyed.

Savage Species, pg. 196, for the curious. ^_^

Sweet! Thankies (I was trying to remember where I had seen it lol)

I would love to see a Pathfinder version of Savage Species.

Dragon78 wrote:

A four way fight between a angel, inevitable, protean, and pitfiend would also be cool for the final cover.

Okay, is the battle is a four-hand poker game.

What if instead of chips they are gambling with souls...

Gambling for souls would make sense since that is the "money" of the outer planes:)

"I'll raise you three paladin souls and one traumatized Iomedean priest."

"Man, you KNOW I'm down to just the run-of-the-mill orphan souls."

"Oh, please. I know full well you're hiding a silver dragon soul gem up your sleeve. Pony up."

"...this is why no one likes playing with you."

I would love to see a Pathfinder version of Savage Species.

Surprised they have yet to explore that option.

Probably a future hardcover.

Kalindlara wrote:

Rysky wrote:

I do like that one piece of art from 3.5 of a Vrock and Rakshasa arguing over a tactical map at a table while a incucbus/human form pit fiend is reading a book and looking annoyed.

Savage Species, pg. 196, for the curious. ^_^

Sweet! Thankies (I was trying to remember where I had seen it lol)

The book the incubus is reading was titled "How to Pick Up Chicks" too. A nice bit of a joke.

Four-hand poker, connect four, a four player chess game, clue, shoots and ladders, etc.;)

Hope Verney four-handed chess. It's the only way to be sure.

Planar AP coming next?

Nothing announced yet. But we'll see what gets announced at PaizoCon. ^_^

It is possible there might be a planar focused AP but only time will tell.

PaizoCon or GenCon;)

Hopefully this isn't just an expanded campaign setting book like Book of the Damned was.

Whaaa?!! BotD was awesome!!!

Also I'm sure this book will be great too.

Didn't get BotD, (most)evil outsiders are just not my thing.

I have the original three books of the damned, they're pretty awesome!

I have the original three books of the damned, they're pretty awesome!

While I don't dislike them (and certainly don't regret purchasing them), I got so much development of those three fiend types in previous editions, that I'm more psyched by the notion of more development of rakshasa, oni or kytons, than demons, devils and daemons. For the same reason, I'd much rather see development of Golarion-exclusive Axis, than yet more on the City of Brass, which had at least one boxed set all to itself in a previous edition.

Still, we gotta have the Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman movies before they can greenlight movies about Booster Gold or Vixen or Nightwing, I suppose. :)

I would love more stuff about oni, rakshasa, and azura. But I even more interested in pure chaos and law then good and evil.

I would love more stuff about oni, rakshasa, and azura. But I even more interested in pure chaos and law then good and evil.

Well, yeah, books dedicated to Formians, Axiomites and Inevitables, on the one side, and Proteans, on the other, would rock. Evil and Good get a ton of focus in this game (and it's predecessors), while Chaos and Law seem like afterthoughts, at times.

I'd love more focus on law and chaos. As an added bonus, it could lead to some increased love for Calistria, Abadar and Irori (and Gorum, I suppose...), who are the signature 'big 20' gods for law and chaos.

Formians are no longer outsiders but are now LN monstrous humanoids found on alien planets.

I hope the new planar infusion feats will grant energy resistances and other defenses related to each plane.

Formians are no longer outsiders but are now LN monstrous humanoids found on alien planets.

Yup, no longer outsiders, but AFAIK, they are still a major presence in Axis, and so would still be a viable subject to explore in an exploration of that city/plane.

One thing I'm very much in favor of, is that all of the major denizens of the planes aren't outsiders.

Dragon78 wrote:

Formians are no longer outsiders but are now LN monstrous humanoids found on alien planets.

Yup, no longer outsiders, but AFAIK, they are still a major presence in Axis, and so would still be a viable subject to explore in an exploration of that city/plane.

One thing I'm very much in favor of, is that all of the major denizens of the planes aren't outsiders.

As of this hardcover, the formians are no longer a major presence in Axis, and haven't really had a major presence there since we moved out of 3.5 content into Pathfinder stuff.

There's still plenty of non-outsider life in the Great Beyond, but formians in Axis aren't part of it.

I can't wait to see more non-outsider planar life one day.

Covers aren't for Pathfinder fans. They're for retailers, distributors and random people at B&N ... who tend to pick stuff based on cover images which depict things they Know and Like (horned bat-winged demons, Cthulhu, Death Knights, dragons) over strange stuff that seems so setting-specific that it's best to steer clear and order half of what you'd take of a proper D&D book that has a beholder on the cover. Jeez, what's with those Paizo people, why don't they just slap a Mind Flayer there, that would sell.

So, overplayed stuff tends to make it on the cover more often that that funky monster which you know it can deal up to 7 negative levels with dagger attacks, but for Joe Doe, it's just something less recognisable than a Grim Reaper or a Grey Alien.

That's actually another good thing about the vrolikai though. It is a horned bat-winged demon and can be recognized as a demon, or, at worst, mistaken for a gargoyle because of its gray skin. It just has four arms with black smokey daggers instead of a fiery sword and whip. And it's grayish instead of red. But really the Pathfinder balor art has kind of a weird head with four eyes and...uh... kinda weird horns coming down.

Nobody has to look at it and think "What's that thing the angel is fighting?" Uh... Demon.

Alternatively, you could go with devils and have a pit fiend. You get the same basic fiendish look. But I like the vrolikai as an option. It's a Pathfinder-specific demon, but it's one that is definitely in the style of a recognizable pop-culture demon.

Anyway, kind of a moot point. They'll have on the cover whatever they want. I'm just thinking a vrolikai would be a good alternative to a balor.

I just want more Axis. It sounds like a fun place to visit.

I just want more Axis, Maelstrom, Positive Energy Plane, Dimension of Time, Dimension of Dreams, and various demi-planes:)

as long as dimension of lust gets some love i am okay with any book

i don't remember the dimension of lust being cannon to Pathfinder but would love it if it was:)

Could the CR 30 monster be:
Itzamna?
Maahes?
Lugus?
Melek Taus?
Ogma?
Ogoun?
Radigost?
Qetesh?
Sandalphon?
Svarozic?
Tsukuyomi?
Inanna?
Duellona (Bellona)?
Erlang Shen?
Atropos?
Magdh?
Xiquiripat?
Zipacna?

Those are all the demigods I know of that are from mythology and aren't from either a fiendish plane, or the material plane, which is probably unlikely as well, given it's not really the focus of the book. It could also be something other than a demigod, but I have no idea what that would be.

There are creatures from myth that are powerful enough to fight a demi-god.

It could be Tane like Leviathan.

I would love to see stats for creatures like Fenrir or Cerberus.

The Leviathan would be a great choice. It's said that even the linnorm Eldest would have trouble against it, so I'm sure he could be a CR 30 creature.

I'm really interested in anything about the positive energy plane and it's outsiders inhabitants. I hope it's one of the main planes with more pages to cover it.

Last I remember all the major planes get the same page count.

Melek Taus would be awesome. :)

Melek Taus is the object of worship a living religion, so I'll be very surprised if Paizo does anything further with him.

Leviathan would be pretty awesome, though.

I am aware. However, I like what I've read of her so far, at least Paizo's interpretation.

I'm pretty sure we won't be hearing much of her. Getting her into print was an error on Paizo's part, and is best forgotten before we enter the slippery "current RL deity" slope.

Will each major plane get a full page art introduction or something similar to that?

Will each major plane get a full page art introduction or something similar to that?

Each major plane gets 6 pages, including one half-page illustration, one body shot of something/someone associated with the plane, and one half-page illustrative (non-tagged) map.

Thanks for the info Mr. Jacobs.

Leviathan would have been my first guess but Mr. Jacobs said earlier in the thread it wasn't him.

I just read the description and I am now intrigued: 0 HD races? Three of them? Gotta wander who that might be? I mean a race dedicated entirely to order would be a good place to introduce a Paizo version of Warforged.

That... depends on exactly what you consider the primary theme of the warforged to be. I wouldn't in any way describe them as "dedicated entirely to order".

That... depends on exactly what you consider the primary theme of the warforged to be. I wouldn't in any way describe them as "dedicated entirely to order".

I meant since the Plane of Order is very construct-y heavy, you could use that as a way to create a new version of Warforged

The warforged had a lot of cool worldbuilding and personality that sprang from their relatively recent creation, their role in the Last War, and their involvement with society in a post-world war setting... it's right there in the name.

We already have "a construct race" - the wyrwood. I don't know what you're looking for that they don't already cover.

Maybe something bigger than Wyrwood.

We also have Androids, the other constructed race. :-)

If this book doesn't include a race of 0HD Captain Yesterday clones that spring forth from the Plane of Chaos, it's a soely missed opportunity.

-Skeld