Pathfinder Player Companion: Paths of the Righteous (PFRPG)

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Walk the Path of Virtue

Those who serve honorable causes and worship the gods of goodness face dangerous and devious threats. To bolster them in their quests, their religions develop potent techniques and astonishing powers to reward those who follow the noble and devout course without fail. Pathfinder Player Companion: Paths of the Righteous presents more than a dozen prestige classes, each associated with a different good-aligned deity and customized to enhance your gameplay, whether your character's a member of a widespread religion or one that's relatively obscure.

Inside this book, you'll find:

  • Fourteen fully detailed prestige classes, from the undead-fighting Ashavic dancer to the rebellious rose warden to the mysterious stargazer.
  • New rules options for every religion featured, including a new witch patron, a magical weapon sure to delight any revolutionary, and a spell that invokes the aid of a vengeful angel.
  • Additional feats to bolster characters taking any prestige class, be they those of a religious bent or otherwise.

This Pathfinder Player Companion is intended for use with the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game and the Pathfinder campaign setting, but can easily be incorporated into any fantasy world.

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5/5

Amazing book with awesome prestige classes. This is how prestige classes can be done. Hopefully there is another book like this for the other alignments.


Amazing addition

5/5

One of the best additions for non standard classes who want to add a touch of divine worship to their characters. A must have for anyone with any interest in the good aligned dieties of Golarian.


Prestige Classes Done Right

5/5

TLDR: This is an excellent book that provides a number of balanced, versatile, thematic and well designed Prestige Classes that can be well used by fans of any base class published. The new options presented demonstrate the best use of Prestige Classes in Pathfinder to date.

Now for the detailed review.

I hope it doesn't come off as dramatic to say this Player's Companion lanced isn't just a collection of thematic, balanced and versatile prestige classes, but may just be a turning point for the game itself. The Prestige Classes offered are versatile enough to work with a number of base classes without overpowering the base-class only options. They are thematically appropriate but at the same time don't pidgeonhole you into one or two narrow predefined options. The classes here certainly can be used by players that don't want to have to delve into half a dozen books to figure out the best way to play them, but at the same time they use under-appreciate mechanics and the potential for combining the roles of other base classes. Tying the Prestige classes to established lore helps create characters already established in the setting. And using deities and factions like this secures their positions in a way that is less obstructive to GMs than “special requirement” classes. The best part is how the classes are largely untied to any base classes, allowing for maximum versatility and character adaptability.

The holy symbols in the inside cover and description of each deity will be a literal godsend to those who aren't as familiar with Golarion lore. The Prestigious Feats are incredibly helpful in giving prestige shy players a reason to take the more flavorful prestige classes of this and prior books without worrying so much about losing their favored class bonuses or spellcaster levels. The rest of the book is divided very cleanly by prestige class/deity, and I will separate my review as such.

Ashavic Dancer class seems limited in that almost every class feature mentions undead or haunts. But don't let its Bardic theme mislead you: This class is perfectly accessible by any caster and tailor made for an Oracle or Sorcerer who wants extra tools against the undead without sacrificing more than one level of spellcasting. Reading the class features as though they were merely a Mystery or Bloodline makes it a far more appealing class, even if it's narrow-use. The feat is oozing with flavor, even if it's not the most powerful in the book.

The Brewkeeper reminds me of how much fun Cayden Cailean characters can be. Making your own potions and enhancing them with Metamagic gives you a slew of options, whether your an alchemist or otherwise. Being able to use your own caster level when you drink or administer a Potion is the hidden gem of this class, but using the Brew Point system to enhance your extracts and bombs is where you will have your fun. The Two-Weapon Drunkard feat feels like the same feat we've seen at least once before for Cayden Cailean, but being able to use any old Tankard as a Divine Focus has its uses.

I didn't realize how cool Ragathiel was until I read the Crimson Templar. This fire-oriented divine-inspired anti-outsider assassin class just oozes flavor. Between the devastating holy fire, the burning wings and the divine obedience, the class is going to make a lot of melee character look and feel incredible. Mechanically, it's a full base attack bonus class with bonus feats and sneak attack dice. Essentially a divine Slayer. And whether its a vital strike or dual-wielding bastard sword build, you'll find yourself easily doing over 150 damage with only 5 levels in the Prestige Class. Shield of Wings is a really cool spell, effectively giving Clerics/Paladins of the deity a single spell-slot for both flight and fire resistance. It's nice to see the extra option, given both aren't always usable in every scenario...but you're often in trouble if you don't have them.

Mechanical Trivia? The class also confirms that you can take the Divine Obedience feat and not necessarily the Celestial Obedience feat for Ragathiel, opening up some new character options in other books. It also is a little disappointing that by RAW it's Fiendish Study class feature doesn't function on the spell-like abilities the class grants it via Divine Obedience.

The Darechaser was one of the most exciting classes in the book. It fits absolutely perfectly for a deity of Kurgess, and who doesn't love adding extra rolls to your d20? While the Daring Exploit feat clearly makes it ideal for a Sleuth or Swashbuckler, the class will work for any martial character and give you that thrill of adding to so many difference checks that you'll really feel like you're playing the exact kind of boisterous daredevil the class was intended to be! A total win for flavorful mechanics.

Dawnflower Anchorite gives you all the warm fuzzies of the goddess of the Sun in a highly versatile package. The Focused Class Feature Credence lets you advance a number of pre-existing base class features as you level, not only giving you way to continue progressing as any of the three-fourth base attack bonuses casters in Pathfinder, but even blend the two becoming a hybrid-class all of its own stacking, for example, Sacred Weapon and Bardic Performance. Of course your Spells per Day will still be stuck to only one class, but its still an option. The Solar Invocation ability will provide a fantastic party buff, and being an almost full spellcaster with three-fourths base attack bonus means the class can be applied to any number of base classes. The Flame Blade Dervish feat is a fantastic buff to Sarenrae's favorite spell.

Devoted Muse is my absolute favorite class in this book. Feint is probably the least touched upon feature in the combat section of the Core Rulebook, and this book has completely blown me away with a class that provides full martial characters with a new and exciting versatile combat option. Being able to debuff enemies with your feint and continue progressing in swashbuckler talents gives you this far less feat intensive pseudo Dirty Trick vibe. And Bladed Brush gives Swashbucklers, devoted muse or otherwise, the option use a Glaive as a Finesse and One-Handed weapon! That being said, the class can be deceptively trickier than the similar Vexing Devil archetype due to the vague nature of Feinting, with numerous Feinting feats not necessarily functioning with Artistic Flourish due to the nature of the feature replacing the Dex to AC bonus. Furthermore, the Deeds ability inadvertently works with Gunslinger better than Swashbuckler...but maybe that was intentional?

Heritor Knight is touted as both one of the most powerful and flavorful classes in the book, and I'm beginning to see why. The effects all look very narrow-use when you first read it, and I suspect that and the prerequisite feats are a good argument for its balance. Most of the effects are keyed against certain tactics that can make it a pain for melee characters, such as swallow hole, flight and incorporeality. But where it really gets nasty is at level 6, when it not only get Vital Strike and Improved Strike as bonus feats, but can use Improved/Greater Vital Strike as a Standard Action, allowing it to combine with a number of other class features and feats. The fact the class advances your fighter's weapon training and feat prerequisites is fabulous. Strike True looks pretty fun for Vital Strike builds, but usually you'll want to move around and its already a feat intensive build.

The Hinterlander is one of two classes I'm excited about. It'd be great in an Adventure Path that is all about defending a specific settlement, but most adventurers move around too much to use most of its class abilities. Defended Hearth can also be something of a game breaker, letting you know if there are any “unnatural” presences in your town without having to actually go out and investigate. Getting Imbue Arrow like an Arcane Archer is really powerful for a class with bonus feats and almost full spell-caster progression. The feat Erastil's Blessing looks good for Rangers who will want to focus on their spells, but absolutely fantastic for Zen Archers or bow-wielding Clerics.

The Rose Warden was the first class I used from this book. Mechanically, its a sort of advanced Pathfinder Field Agent, giving you Talents and Sneak Attack dice. But it does it so much better that I won't be surprised if more Milanites suddenly show up at your local Lodge. Shoring up Will Saves is absolutely something rogues have needed from the beginning, not that this class is tied exclusively to Rogues. Unchained Rogues will also appreciate being able to take “Chained” Talents with this class, in addition to its Synergies with the popular Scout Archetype (being able to charge through crowds/difficult terrain). The thorn-themed talents are really neat, but I was a little disappointed when I realized you can't actually add sneak attack dice to Chaos Hammer or Holy Smite. Thematically, the class oozes rose petals and rebellion, an excellent addition for Hell's Rebels or any Urban Campaign where you don't mind ruffling a few feathers. The Magic Item is quite nice too, especially if you have high Charisma. Its a little annoying that the class features of the Rose Warden keys off Intelligence but its Magic Item keys off Charisma, but I can understand why. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Oracles and Sorcerers pick up an Everbloom Thorn.

The Rune Guard is a fascinating addition to the book I wasn't expecting. A “good Thassilonian Rune mage” that uses the original Virtues of Soralyon to buff its allies by sacrificing spell-slots. It's a pretty solid class if you want some new ways to help your friends, and the Charity Rune will allow some killer combinations depending on who else is in your party. Want to see a Rogue get Sneak Attack on their Ray? Spiffy.

The Sacred Sentinel is the least exciting class in the book, able to defend a certain number of allies a day by fighting defensively. It progresses Lay on Hands, Animal Companions, Familiars and Divine/Arcane Bond all the way through, but doesn't get spellcaster levels (instead opting for a full base attack bonus). It's kind of neat dedicating yourself to defending your Animal Companion or Familiar, and I can think of a number of Amusing Paladin/Druid or just straight Druid builds that will undoubtedly become powerful accessory items for their friends. Its just not the kind of class that appeals to me.

Now the Scar Seeker is a bit more flashy. Full Base Attack Bonus, half-casting progression, smite and lay on hands gives the worshiper of Vildeis a paladin feel, despite having no paladin-only prerequisites. Its abilities that require them to get hurt in order to activate, including powering up their weapon or exploding in healing and/or damage when they are brought to zero hit-points. It provides a nice “good aligned” variant to classes like the Pain Taster that are usually keyed to Evil aligned gods like Zon-Kuthon. The Smite Evil Magic feat looks like an absolute blast, and I can't wait to see a Paladin slice an ongoing spell-effect in half with their deities favored weapon.

The Sphere Singer is another example of how the Prestige Classes in this book reference other base classes (granting Bardic Music) without outright requiring you to take the class. It's a lovely little Prestige Class, right on target for a Desnic Gish looking to fly across the battlefield with a Starknife. The biggest aha moment here was the Versatile Performance class feature letting you retrain ranks in associated skills at no cost: An absolutely brilliant design move. The Guided Star feat is going to make a lot of Desnan Clerics very happy.

The Stargazer class has the most potential for a multiclass caster, improving spellcasting, channel, hexes, domains, mysteries, and familiars. The Arcana are flavorful, useful and flashy, and the fact its a ¾ Base Attack Bonus prestige class with full casting and no feat requirements makes it another versatile class. The Aurora Patron is going to be a top choice for witches regardless of Deity, both for the awe inspiring nature and flavor potential of the Aurora itself, and access to the powerful Color Spray spell.

In short, the book not only clarifies some rules, gives us fourteen wonderful prestige classes and a number of cool feats, spells and magic items, but could actually represent a turning point in Prestige Class design that makes me absolutely excited for the Adventurer's Guide coming out this Spring! Each class somehow retains a distinct playing style while not absolutely stapling itself to a base class, making them feel less like puzzles and more like tools you can use to express your character. The expanded lore for these deities is refreshing, especially with the focus on these “chosen followers”. And while I focus on this book largely as a player, it's an excellent tool for a GM who wants to fill their temple with distinct NPCs.

Overall the book is an amazing addition to the Player's Companion line and one I highly recommend.


An Amazing Collection

5/5

This book contains fourteen prestige classes tied to various good deities for the Pathfinder setting. Prestige Classes got a bad rap back in the old 3.5 days because for a while it seemed like we were drowning in them. In Pathfinder, they have been relatively rare, with the idea being that a PrC should be something tied to the setting and that it should provide unique benefits that no regular character class can. This book gives us over a dozen such examples.

The Brewkeeper is for anyone who wants to play a brewer. Ah, but such a brewer! They can modify their spells or alchemical extracts with metamagic feats to aid or with harmful conditions to hinder. In tune with their patron Cayden Cailean, the drunken hero, they get bonuses on saves when they drink any of their own magical beverages. Really an original PrC, as well as a great option for the seemingly forgotten alchemist. I long wanted to play a dwarf alchemist brewer and with this I can make an amazing one.

The Dawnflower Anchorite is a sort of Sarenraen hermit. It is best for druids or clerics but allows itself to be modified for a great may spellcasting classes. Really, you can do almost anything with this one provided you're Neutral Good and worship Sarenrae. They can progress like druids, clerics, inquisitors, or warpriests with plenty of room for customization.

The Runeguard is focused on the dead realm of Thassilon and its lost virtues. Unlike some other PrCs this one is pretty much solely for wizards who specialize in Thassilonian spellcasting. That said it does so in great manner, to the point that if you were playing a good Thassilonian wizard this is the PrC you always wanted. They gain powers based on the virtues of Thassilon, and they all seem well thought-out and very thematic.

The Stargazer is a class best suited to the witch. Some fans complain about the weakness of the witch, or that it doesn't get very many prestige classes that can support both their spellcasting and their unique class features like hexes. The stargazer seems to be the answer to this. Full spellcasting, some new hexes from the shaman class, a cleric subdomain and associated spells, and some oracle revelations, what more do you want? A new witch patron based on the theme of the aurora? Class abilities focused around the Cosmic Caravan, the zodiac of Golarion, granting a number of unique powers? You get those too. Really, this one makes me want to play a good witch of Pulura and I never even thought of that empyreal lord very much before this. That seems to be the biggest problem with this book. I keep finding myself saying/thinking, 'okay now I HAVE to play one of those!'

Bards get their due with the Ashavic Dancer and Sphere Singer. The Ashavic Dancer specializes in sending ghosts and haunts to their rest, peacefully or otherwise. They get special dance performances that can quell undead, harm them, or even return them to their graves. The PrC also comes with a feat that grants the Necril language and gives bonuses on using social skills on the restless dead. Great class for anyone who wants to make an undead-busting bard, but aside from that utility may be a bit limited.

The Sphere Singer serves Desna and gains abilities in tune with her patron. She can sing and increase her speed, protect dreamers, and even fly. She can communicate through dreams and in the end, become a fey being, gain butterfly wings, and become immune to cold and even lose the need to breathe. Once again, this is really a great PrC that makes me want to play one of these characters.

Don't worry, martials get their share too. Ragathiel's Crimson Templars fill some niches I feel the game has needed for a long time. They're lawful good assassins and they specialize in fighting devils, though they're equally good against other evil outsiders. Really, why must every lawful good hero paint a target on their back by demanding that the villains face them out in the open? Why can't honorable good guys be sneaky when they have to? With this PrC now you can.

I was surprised at the Darechaser of Kurgess. The class itself is fine if a bit odd for Pathfinder. Basically, it turns you into an incredibly talented athlete. You can run faster, jump higher, and swim quicker than anyone else. You can also dare yourself to accomplish something great and get a variable but potentially amazing bonus on any attack or save or other roll that helps you to fulfill it. I originally expected Kurgess' chosen to be more fighters, but then In remember he's the god of competition, not mayhem. And this PrC does work very well in a fight anyway. It's really an amazing PrC for anyone who wants to play an athletic brawler in the game.

The Devoted Muse of Shelyn is one of the very best PrCs in the book. They're basically glaive-wielding, dancing swashbucklers of the goddess of art and beauty. They can wield their glaives with such gorgeous skill that foes are left gaping in disbelief, and perform attacks so elegant that even her comrades are inspired. This has to be one of the most original takes on the swashbuckler class I've ever seen, and to me it's the very best PrC in the entire book. You also get a feat allowing swashbucklers to use glaives like rapiers for the purpose of class features. I won't lie when I saw that I really want to see someone with this PrC show up in an official adventure someday.

Iomedae's Heritor Knight is probably the PrC most heavily based on setting material. They go through the same events that Iomedae did when she became a goddess, getting all their class-based abilities from them, It also comes with a fine feat that makes it easier to land a blow provided you're willing to take the time for it.

Erastil's Hinterlander is a defender of farming villages and other small communities across Golarion. Their powers revolve around defending others and archery. This PrC comes with a feat that allows Erastil's worshipers to use their Wisdom modifier on ranged attacks with bows, which is something this god's worshipers really can use.

Another great original PrC is the Rose Warden of Milani. Basically a divine PrC for rogues, they specialize in rousing angry mobs and urban fighting. This is an amazing class for good rogues and would work incredibly well in campaigns like Curse of the Crimson Throne. It's enough to make me want to play such an adventure of campaign just so I can make one of these characters.

Torag's Sacred Sentinel is an amazing PrC for anyone who wants to play a defender, especially a dwarf cavalier. They're great at protecting others and even develop a limited healing ability as they progress.

Vildeis' Scar Seeker is another defender. They can share in the pain of others, give forth one last burst of healing power when slain, inflict greater damage in melee at the price of bring hurt themselves, and gain paladin mercies. They can also accept injuries rather than expend daily uses of their powers; and eventually, they get morale bonuses on several rolls by doing so. This is yet another amazing and flavorful class in this book. Vildeis' faith revolves around martyrdom, and the powers of the class focus on accepting pain and injuries to spare others.

In the end this book is an amazing collection of prestige classes for a Golarion-based game. These PrCs are each unique, flavorful, and fill a niche in the setting. The biggest problem I have with the book is that I kept finding myself wanting to play these classes! It makes me hope that more such themed prestige class collections get done for Pathfinder, especially in they're on this level.


Yes

5/5

Wonderfully powerful.


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Rysky wrote:

-_-

But Ragathiel is probably perfectly fine.

The obedience itself is problematical to me. Maybe this book will "clarify" it so that it can be met when no evildoers worthy of death are in the area?

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David knott 242 wrote:
Rysky wrote:

-_-

But Ragathiel is probably perfectly fine.

The obedience itself is problematical to me. Maybe this book will "clarify" it so that it can be met when no evildoers worthy of death are in the area?

I was pointing out the disjunction between violence=Good, sex=bad but for Ragathiel I would look at his Paladin Code in Divine Anthology, really cuts down on the Murderhobo-ness.

And remember, a DO is something you can do, it's not something you have to do.


I thought a Do was like Mountain Dew...


I somewhat doubt that the Obedience would be required for these prestige classes. But yeah, count me in on "Ragathiel's obedience is kinda messed-up." I was glad to see that his Paladin Code was a lot less Smite At Will, Commander.

I do know that in the thread on Chronicle of the Righteous, the devs said that at GM purview you could swap it with Dammerich's Obedience, particularly for campaigns where you're not always likely to get your daily murder quota in.

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Isabelle Lee wrote:
I would love to write some classes for the neutral and evil deities. ^_^

I would love to see one or both of those books. I'm super excited for this book already, to the point where I've almost exclusively been playing my neutral PFS characters until I get a look at the goodies in here, since many if not most of by goodies follow relevant deities.

That said, if we could get a Chronicles of the Righteous style book for the Psychopomp Ushers, Primal Inevitables, etc. first that would be literally the best thing.


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I agree with Dhenn, I'd love to see more stuff for Psychopomp Ushers and Primal Inevitables.


David knott 242 wrote:

After taking a look at Arshea's Celestial Obedience and imagining a prestige class based on it, I think I can see why Arshea was skipped for this book.

I would imagine that Lymnieris was skipped for pretty much the same reason.

Bah, if Wizards of the Coast can come out with the Book of Vile Darkness which discusses awful stuff like torture and live sacrifice then I'm sure Paizo Publishing would be okay with some sort of sexual-based prestige classes. Besides, not all of a prestige class of Arshea needs to be based on sexuality. She's also about tolerance and freedom. :D


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I agree with Dhenn, I'd love to see more stuff for Psychopomp Ushers and Primal Inevitables.

PRIME Inevitables you mean (^_~) but yeah, a prestige class focusing on the Psychopomps and Inevitables would be awesome (also the Protean Lords, Elemental Lords, Whore Queens, etc etc). :D

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Berselius wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

After taking a look at Arshea's Celestial Obedience and imagining a prestige class based on it, I think I can see why Arshea was skipped for this book.

I would imagine that Lymnieris was skipped for pretty much the same reason.

Bah, if Wizards of the Coast can come out with the Book of Vile Darkness which discusses awful stuff like torture and live sacrifice then I'm sure Paizo Publishing would be okay with some sort of sexual-based prestige classes. Besides, not all of a prestige class of Arshea needs to be based on sexuality. She's also about tolerance and freedom. :D

You deeply underestimate the dramatic difference in how Americans perceive violence and gore vs. how they look at sexuality and nudity.


But earlier this year they had the "Enchanting Courtesan" prestige class.


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PannicAtack wrote:
But earlier this year they had the "Enchanting Courtesan" prestige class.

They did?


Gorbacz wrote:
Berselius wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

After taking a look at Arshea's Celestial Obedience and imagining a prestige class based on it, I think I can see why Arshea was skipped for this book.

I would imagine that Lymnieris was skipped for pretty much the same reason.

Bah, if Wizards of the Coast can come out with the Book of Vile Darkness which discusses awful stuff like torture and live sacrifice then I'm sure Paizo Publishing would be okay with some sort of sexual-based prestige classes. Besides, not all of a prestige class of Arshea needs to be based on sexuality. She's also about tolerance and freedom. :D
You deeply underestimate the dramatic difference in how Americans perceive violence and gore vs. how they look at sexuality and nudity.

I don't underestimate it. I just don't really care about people who perceive it as offensive. As far as I'm concerned, if they don't want to buy the book because it offends them then don't bloody buy it then. If there's a TV show or movie that offends them then don't watch it for the love of gods.

There are a great deal more perverse books being sold on the market anyways. Ever read 50 Shades of Grey? If not then how about any of Howard Stern's books? As far as television and movies go, everything from nudity to sex has been done there.

Also, who ever said the a book containing an Arshea prestige class had to feature any artwork of sex or nudity?


Nate Z wrote:
PannicAtack wrote:
But earlier this year they had the "Enchanting Courtesan" prestige class.
They did?

Yes, it - along with a reprinted version of the Lion Blade prestige class - appeared in Inner Sea Intrigue.


I will probably get attacked for this...but maybe Arshea is not being represented because s/he is unnecessary and badly written deity. I mean she is pretty much the goddess of Transgender, sex, and freedom. The only thing is transgender...and she is a good alignment. Who do evil or neutral transgender people in Golarion worship?

I just don't think this deity should exist when Cayden, Gorzeh, Sivanah, Shelyn and Calistria fill the role much better.

I think a deity like Arshea would be awesome...I just think they needed the deity to be more unique. Maybe not have anything to do with sex...

Anyway Pazio does not shy away from sex in the Campaign line.


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John Kretzer wrote:
I will probably get attacked for this...but maybe Arshea is not being represented because s/he is unnecessary and badly written deity.

I couldn't disagree more but I respect your opinion. I think Arshea fills a very important niche in the Pathfinder universe that most tabletop roleplaying companies have been hesitant to use.

John Kretzer wrote:
I just don't think this deity should exist when Cayden, Gorzeh, Sivanah, Shelyn and Calistria fill the role much better.

So, are you saying all we should have is Deities and other beings of worship such as Empyreal Lords shouldn't exist at all or am I misunderstanding you??

John Kretzer wrote:
Who do evil or neutral transgender people in Golarion worship?

I think evil as a concept would encourage discrimination and intolerance against transgender people dude rather than tolerate it.


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John Kretzer wrote:

I will probably get attacked for this...but maybe Arshea is not being represented because s/he is unnecessary and badly written deity. I mean she is pretty much the goddess of Transgender, sex, and freedom. The only thing is transgender...and she is a good alignment. Who do evil or neutral transgender people in Golarion worship?

I just don't think this deity should exist when Cayden, Gorzeh, Sivanah, Shelyn and Calistria fill the role much better.

I think a deity like Arshea would be awesome...I just think they needed the deity to be more unique. Maybe not have anything to do with sex...

Anyway Pazio does not shy away from sex in the Campaign line.

Transgender individuals, whether good, evil, or neutral, can worship whoever appeals to them. They are not unilaterally defined by being transgender. Someone who is evil and transgender is probably more likely to be focused on other goals than personal acceptance...if they were interested in that at all, they would probably be more interested in forcing others to accept them.

Calistria is not a positive role model, given her interests in revenge and trickery, while Shelyn is explicitly not a goddess of sexuality, so I think a good-aligned supporter of positive, wholesome sex is worthwhile. Furthermore, her interests in freedom, while still opposed to tyranny, also turns inwards to examine and perhaps reject needlessly restrictive beliefs, an introspective trait that Cayden Cailean and his followers are not necessarily known for. Gozreh certainly has their dualistic forms, but remains primarily a nature deity, and would not appeal to everyone who was transgender - not that Arshea's worshipers are only transgender individuals. Sivanah, I frankly don't see where she impacts on Arshea's interests at all.

Regardless, given that many are clearly fans, it doesn't seem productive to announce that you think they are both unnecessary and badly-written. You could certainly say you don't care for Arshea yourself, or that you personally don't see the point in having them in the setting, rather than unilaterally stating the above as though it were a fact. Though I find 'badly-written' rather puzzling...was their entry grammatically incorrect? To my knowledge, Arshea hasn't appeared in a narrative...

...but regardless. Please respect other people's preferences while stating your own?


@Bersleius: I think it is great that Pazio made Arshea...I really think they could have done a better job at it though.

And yes I do think they are way too many Empyreal Lords. Especially ones who double down on all ready taken niches.

And it depends on the Evil how accepting it is of whatever. True intolerance of Transgender would be evil. But there are many forms of evil. For instance Lamashtu appeals to the outcast and deformed.

@Luthorn: A good aligned follower of Calistria can just focus on the sex part and be okay. Calistria and her faith judges people as invididuels and encourages people to be themselves.

I meant by badly written by adding sex to Arshea portfolio was a I think a bad decision. I can not count how many times people have come here to complain about Pazio including a LGBT character in a AP. Their complaint was that it added sex to their game. So Pazio in my opinion having Arshea be also a sex deity just adds to that mistaken belief.

As I said I love the idea of Arshea...I just think the execution could have been alot better. I think I expecting more and just disappointed.

Anyway if people want to continue this discussion send me a PM...as I don't want to derail this thread anymore.

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That being said typed, let's bring this conversation back on topic, i.e. a discussion of the Player Companion Paths of the Righteous. If you wish to discuss what is in our books, please start a new thread!

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I want more righteous Pr-classes of Manus!


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Personally I'm looking forward to Rose Warden. I've got a Milanite cleric who's about to go into Evangelist but I may say screw that if Rose Warden advanced spellcasting.


BardWannabe wrote:
Will at least one of them support Empyreal Lords? The Mystery Cultist is only worthwhile for full casters.

I agree,


Will this be shipped out in time for Christmas?

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Shalafi2412 wrote:
Will this be shipped out in time for Christmas?

See this thread for your question:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tzuq?December-2016-Monthly-Shipping-Thread#1


Luthorne wrote:
Nate Z wrote:
PannicAtack wrote:
But earlier this year they had the "Enchanting Courtesan" prestige class.
They did?
Yes, it - along with a reprinted version of the Lion Blade prestige class - appeared in Inner Sea Intrigue.

Yep. Inner Sea Intrigue had a decent amount of content that dealt with sexuality, including the "Companion to the Lonely" vigilante social talent and the Seduction inquisition. And birth control.

So I don't think that Arshea got left out because Paizo is shy about sexuality. I'm guessing they just figured they'd cut it off at 14, rather than 15, and that they had a better idea for a prestige class for other things.

Speaking of stuff that I'd like to get more attention, I'd love to see more stuff related to Korada. But then pacifism doesn't mesh very well with the typical Pathfinder campaign. One of these days... I got like a dozen different pacifist build ideas...

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Gorgeous art for the Iomeadae PC! Can't wait for it!

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Paladinosaur wrote:
Gorgeous art for the Iomeadae PC! Can't wait for it!

?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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PannicAtack wrote:
So I don't think that Arshea got left out because Paizo is shy about sexuality. I'm guessing they just figured they'd cut it off at 14, rather than 15, and that they had a better idea for a prestige class for other things.

This is correct.

In picking the 14 religions, I was pretty limited in my choices, since we have FAR more good religions than 14. I wanted to include all the core good religions as well as as many of the other god core religions as possible, which left only a few slots left to do prestige classes for Empyreal Lords. In choosing which ones to represent there, I skewed towards ones that I liked a lot or that I felt could stand to have a bit more context and information to explain a complex in-world dogma/role. Arshea, like many others, simply did not make the cut—had nothing to do with their themes being "too mature" to be included.


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Rysky wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:
Gorgeous art for the Iomeadae PC! Can't wait for it!
?

Look at the "Coming Next Month" entry in Blood of the Beast. ^_^

I'm glad to see it turned out so well, to be honest!


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James Jacobs wrote:


This is correct.

In picking the 14 religions, I was pretty limited in my choices, since we have FAR more good religions than 14.

Religion bloat! Religion bloat!

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Isabelle Lee wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:
Gorgeous art for the Iomeadae PC! Can't wait for it!
?

Look at the "Coming Next Month" entry in Blood of the Beast. ^_^

I'm glad to see it turned out so well, to be honest!

Ah Thankies!

*checks*

Badass!


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It's recently occurred to me that Pharasma probably won't be getting anything in this? And now I'm sad.


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Pharasma is not a good aligned deity -- that is why she is excluded.


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Yeah which is why we suggested Paths of Balance for the next one. ;)


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If there's a follow-up - and I hope there is! - Pharasma will definitely be included, along with all of the other neutral Core deities. ^_^

I've got my eye on writing the Calistria class...


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Calistria needs more love.


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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Calistria needs more love.

She needs more lust...she considers love to be silly and wasteful...(most of the time..she is also fickle)

But agreed more Calistria stuff.


I am hoping these prestige classes don't have high requirements (such as needing more than 2 feats to access)

Any chance you can spoil on the requirements for the Desna prestige class? ;)


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Askanipsion: the answer to both your statement and your question is "yes and no". Hope that helps. ^_^

Spoiler:
I look forward to being able to give less cryptic answers when the time comes.


David knott 242 wrote:
Pharasma is not a good aligned deity

Hence why Qi Zhong (NG) will resurrect slain gods but she won't.


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SOON.

anticipation intensifies


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Isabelle Lee wrote:

SOON.

anticipation intensifies

intensity anticifies

For those wondrous entities who get the PDF in the first few batches *cough* Skeld *cough*, a list of the prestige classes and a note on your favorite would make me a happy kobold.


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I have yet to even receive my 'Pending' notice, folks. I think you are getting ahead of yourselves a bit... I too am eagerly anticipating this , though.


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Actual shipping is not scheduled to start until Wednesday, so don't expect anyone to have PDFs before then.


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Fourshadow wrote:
I have yet to even receive my 'Pending' notice, folks. I think you are getting ahead of yourselves a bit... I too am eagerly anticipating this , though.

Just me getting ahead of myself. But I do love me some prestige classes.

I'm actually more excited about the feat options for any PrC. Eagerly awaiting Wednesday.


I'm waiting next Wednesday myself...if only because it means we're getting closer to the 14th.


Xethik wrote:
Fourshadow wrote:
I have yet to even receive my 'Pending' notice, folks. I think you are getting ahead of yourselves a bit... I too am eagerly anticipating this , though.

Just me getting ahead of myself. But I do love me some prestige classes.

I'm actually more excited about the feat options for any PrC. Eagerly awaiting Wednesday.

Just hours after I say that, I get my "Pending" notice...hoping to have the PDF by the end of the week.


My pending notice is in too. Anticipation intensifies.


I got my pending notice as well. I am looking forward to this book.

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