Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of the Beast (PFRPG)

zergtitan wrote:

Kitsune Mesmerist? Please..... :}

Watch the tails go back and forth, back and forth. When I snap my fingers you will awaken. My mind will protect yours. And you will boc like a chicken.

Boc? Boc!

*looks to find a cleric to fix clucking.*

Hmm! I do like the prospect of a new shaman for cat folk.

I love the cover!

It is a very nice cover cousin of Elmer Fudd.

Shifts anxiously in chair

Shifts anxiously in chair

Begins to stare at Alex waiting for him to spoiler something

zergtitan wrote:

Kitsune Mesmerist? Please..... :}

Watch the tails go back and forth, back and forth. When I snap my fingers you will awaken. My mind will protect yours. And you will boc like a chicken.

Mmmm, chicken /drool

Nice cover but of course none of them are catfolk art:(

Well at least some racial feats will be in the book.

You don't see the Catfolk ninja on the branch in the back?

Honestly though, which of the 3 types of Catfolk should make the cover?

Kitsune Mesmerist? Please..... :}

There is no such thing as a Kitsune Mesmerist. Forget you ever mentioned it.

I'm just surprised that cover manages to make goofy tengu design from bestiary cool looking .-.

I am not big on racial archetypes, they take up a lot of room and the idea of an archetype that only one race of the 50+ in Pathfinder can use it makes it less interesting especially as I am getting tired of archetypes in general. Also I am not big on Shamans and would have preferred other classes for the catfolk like swashbuckler, kineticist, druid, sorcerer, investigator, etc.

I would love to see some catfolk art like the one in B3.

Racial archetypes, especially for something like a catfolk shaman, can do something very important: change the key casting stat. Right now, catfolk shamans are about as feasible as dwarf mesmerists. You can do it... but you're starting with a significant handicap.

Agreed 100% on the art... though given the nature of this book, I suspect we'll be seeing mostly the other kind (e.g., Khajiit). ^_^

Yes and druid and hunter would have been better choices.

I like Carolina Eade art too :(

Everything looks like a 90's style Disney waifu interpretation. Like I said, horrible and yet perfect.

Hmm, can't say I'm a fan of the cover art myself, personally, but the description certainly makes me quite interested in seeing what lies inside.

No hint at Nagaji toys

Bah, I still think Bestiary3 Catfolk were lame-ish :D They look like beastbrood tieflings

Also more racial archetypes, the better I think. Especially if archetypes actually make use of race specific things

Funny I think about the same way about the catfolk art for the ARG.

Catfolk mesmerist that can only use their abilities on themselves? Focused on tiny laser beams and balls of string?

Catfolk mesmerist that can only use their abilities on themselves? Focused on tiny laser beams and balls of string?

Or Ratfolk.

I am not big on racial archetypes, they take up a lot of room and the idea of an archetype that only one race of the 50+ in Pathfinder can use it makes it less interesting especially as I am getting tired of archetypes in general. Also I am not big on Shamans and would have preferred other classes for the catfolk like swashbuckler, kineticist, druid, sorcerer, investigator, etc.

I would love to see some catfolk art like the one in B3.

The alternative might be alternate racial traits that no one like, and sometime these racial archetypes require X racial trait, so any race who get it in some ways can use the archetype(s).

I want a male Catfolk in the B3 style.

Does this product feature any alternate racial traits for the races involved, or has it buried the concept quietly like most Paizo products (with a little blip in Inner Sea Races being a welcome exception)?

How about any subraces for any of the races?

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There was alternate racial traits in Horror Adventures and Legacy of Dragons.

I like Carolina Eade art too :(

I do as well Rysky.

But I will admit, the Kitsune looks better on this cover than some others that have done it. (Not for Pathfinder just in general.)

Want more tengu! They are sort of iconic to this game, and not a carryover from a previous d20 game (like aasimar and tieflings, which will always carry their Planescape origins around with them, for me).

And maybe something more with nagaji (who I *want* to love, but don't yet, the naga connection is deeply cool, but the race itself seems to have few thematic ties to the naga, in mechanics or character...) and ratfolk.

The rest aren't my cup of tea, but I'm fine with fans of things I don't particularly love also getting cool stuff!

Oh, for a book of completely out-there PC options, like 0 HD centaurs, gnolls and lizardfolk!

Does this product feature any alternate racial traits for the races involved, or has it buried the concept quietly like most Paizo products (with a little blip in Inner Sea Races being a welcome exception)?

Dozens of new spells, alternate racial traits, and favored class bonuses to customize characters of all stripes.

Given the couple of different ways the cover art could have gone, I particularly like this style.

Well the fox creature looks a bit too much like a cartoon or videogame character for my taste, to be honest.

I have to say this artwork does seem to use a brighter color pallet then what is standard for Pathfinder.

Well the fox creature looks a bit too much like a cartoon or videogame character for my taste, to be honest.

it continues the trend that most Kisune arts are obvious CGi.

Ohmygod. Best. Grippi. Picture. Ever.

I just can't get my mind around that there are people who would want to play a frog.

I just can't get my mind around that there are people who would want to play a frog.

What about a grippli monk?

Why do people want to play hairless apes with pointy ears, or short ones with beards? ;)

Zaister wrote:

I just can't get my mind around that there are people who would want to play a frog.

What about a grippli monk?

Still a frog.

The brighter palette and such reminds me a little of the cover of The Harrowing, as a random aside. Maybe it's just me, I dunno.

Why do people want to play hairless apes with pointy ears, or short ones with beards? ;)

I think it's immersion breaking how everything else on the planet but them can see in the dark and the monsters haven't figured out to attack at night yet...

DeciusNero wrote:

Why do people want to play hairless apes with pointy ears, or short ones with beards? ;)

I think it's immersion breaking how everything else on the planet but them can see in the dark and the monsters haven't figured out to attack at night yet...

Them and halflings both!

I think the kitsune must hold some sort of record for the number of racial feats they have, lol. At least if you count the 8 times that you can take the tail feats.

I think the kitsune must hold some sort of record for the number of racial feats they have, lol. At least if you count the 8 times that you can take the tail feats.

Kitsune's Tails Feats and Drow "to Drow Noble" Feats are the biggest racial feats taxes that come to mind.

Matrix Dragon wrote:

I think the kitsune must hold some sort of record for the number of racial feats they have, lol. At least if you count the 8 times that you can take the tail feats.

Kitsune's Tails Feats and Drow "to Drow Noble" Feats are the biggest racial feats taxes that come to mind.

Neither of those are feat taxes.

I just can't get my mind around that there are people who would want to play a frog.

I had a few PCs back in 3rd edition that wanted to be Grippli or Tsathars.

Nutcase Entertainment wrote:

Matrix Dragon wrote:

I think the kitsune must hold some sort of record for the number of racial feats they have, lol. At least if you count the 8 times that you can take the tail feats.

Kitsune's Tails Feats and Drow "to Drow Noble" Feats are the biggest racial feats taxes that come to mind.

Neither of those are feat taxes.

disguise self: feat tax. Hat of disguise does the same thing better.

Rysky wrote:

Nutcase Entertainment wrote:

Matrix Dragon wrote:

I think the kitsune must hold some sort of record for the number of racial feats they have, lol. At least if you count the 8 times that you can take the tail feats.

Kitsune's Tails Feats and Drow "to Drow Noble" Feats are the biggest racial feats taxes that come to mind.

Neither of those are feat taxes.

disguise self: feat tax. Hat of disguise does the same thing better.

charm person: Good!
misdirection: Meh. spell you need once per day. tax.
invisibility: Droool
suggestion: Sweet and thematic.
displacement: Good stuff , specially on your front lines.
confusion: Killer
dominate person: yes master...

By that logic the Invisibility one is also a tax since you can buy potions of invisibility.

*buys up potions of Rysky's awesome reply* ;)

Action economy is everything. Draw potion drink potion and the invisibility lasts longer when your tail casts it. Your own disguise self isn't any better than the hat's : it generally lasts too short to be effective.

Funny I think about the same way about the catfolk art for the ARG.

What? That they look like beastbrood tieflings from Blood of Fiends? xD

Anyway, I love(read "find annoying") how the cover art has made "Oh noes, too many colors in the palette" people appear :D Usually those ones only appear on video game boards talking about "Yar this game looks too cartoony, clearly I prefer everything grey and brown", though at least nobody wants grey and brown in Pathfinder art. Hopefully at least

Also, by that logic, isn't taking disguise self as spell a wasted spellslot since you could just buy hat of disguise? :P Seriously, not all of us want to wear fancy hat just to use a spell xD

Dragon78 wrote:

Funny I think about the same way about the catfolk art for the ARG.

What? That they look like beastbrood tieflings from Blood of Fiends? xD

Anyway, I love(read "find annoying") how the cover art has made "Oh noes, too many colors in the palette" people appear :D Usually those ones only appear on video game boards talking about "Yar this game looks too cartoony, clearly I prefer everything grey and brown", though at least nobody wants grey and brown in Pathfinder art. Hopefully at least

Also, by that logic, isn't taking disguise self as spell a wasted spellslot since you could just buy hat of disguise? :P Seriously, not all of us want to wear fancy hat just to use a spell xD

I'm sorry that you don't want a GRIM, GRITTY, and MATURE role playing game. I'll be back after you've GROWN UP.

Anyhoo, speaking of frogs, I do sort of want to try out gripplis after seeing that Kulipari: an Army of Frogs show on netflix :D I mean, animation quality was bad(and concept trailer was more fancy than actual show), but I find it lovingly nostalgic to my childhood when kids shows have named character death toll. Maybe I should try out books that show was based on.

(that show actually makes me wonder, are there more depictions of frogs as tribal people? .-. I mean, are gripplis(and that show I mentioned by extension) actually inspired by some concept, or are they just frog versions of lizardfolk basically?)

I never said the color pallet bothers me, I just said it is bright, unlike the doom and gloom Pathfinder standard pallet:)