Is this the finalized list?
Yep. When we post set lists on the site, they are final.
Will this be available at Gen Con? In time to preorder and pick up at the show?
Why no venture captains? Ambrus? Zarta?Pawns are best served by NPCs who are likely to show up on a tactical map, so those who appear on the list are ones that the PCs might fight, fight alongside, or defend during one or more scenarios. The venture-captains and faction leaders who are more conversation-inclined made much kore sense for the Pathfinder Society Face Cards.
That's understandable for folks running PFS. I run society scenarios at home and often set up maps for non-combat encounters. Players like to be funny if you only set up maps for combat. I like to keep them guessing by putting them on the board for social encounters as well. I am disappointed at the lack of venture-captains, but I will just keep using the NPC pawns that I've been using.
Has anyone begun a scenario index that shows which pawns are needed with each scenario?
Wow! This list is pretty impressive. I'm curious as to why there's no Aram Zey? You included 322 (btw one of the most fun pre-gens I've ever had the opportunity to play). Perhaps you're holding off as you are planning to release a set of minis: The PFS Iconics?
You're welcome to read my review, which include my hypothesis for your question.
TL;DR, Paizo only included characters they already had full-body art for. They left out all the NPCs whose art only show their head. It makes sense from a logical point of view, since a head-only portrait wouldn't look great on the minis. It also obeys an economical concern: extra art costs money, and they didn't want to have Aram Zey (or Kafar, Nefti, Amenopheus, or Yargos Gill) redone as a full-body picture probably because of these extra costs.
Wow! This list is pretty impressive. I'm curious as to why there's no Aram Zey? You included 322 (btw one of the most fun pre-gens I've ever had the opportunity to play). Perhaps you're holding off as you are planning to release a set of minis: The PFS Iconics?You're welcome to read my review, which include my hypothesis for your question.
TL;DR, Paizo only included characters they already had full-body art for. They left out all the NPCs whose art only show their head. It makes sense from a logical point of view, since a head-only portrait wouldn't look great on the minis. It also obeys an economical concern: extra art costs money, and they didn't want to have Aram Zey (or Kafar, Nefti, Amenopheus, or Yargos Gill) redone as a full-body picture probably because of these extra costs.
That does seem a likely reason. One thing I noticed in your review is that you mentioned pawns that don't appear in any PFS scenario (Radillo, Darago, etc.). While true, an explicit purpose of the pawn collection was also to cater to those that play the Adventure Card Game (or its organized play version PFSACG), where Radillo, Darago, et al. are all playable characters. If you have no use for those pawns, you may have luck selling them online to ACG players who don't want to shell out for 160 pawns they'll never use just to get the 40 or so they care about.
There are 220 pawns in this set:
-35 small
-160 medium!
-20 large
-5 huge
What are you doing this for? There is a list of these in each product description. We can count.
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What are you doing this for? There is a list of these in each product description. We can count.There are 220 pawns in this set:
-35 small
-160 medium!
-20 large
-5 huge
I did this for each pawn collection, mainly for comparison reasons (to see which set has the most small, medium, large, huge or overall pawns in it).
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Why no venture captains? Ambrus? Zarta?Pawns are best served by NPCs who are likely to show up on a tactical map, so those who appear on the list are ones that the PCs might fight, fight alongside, or defend during one or more scenarios. The venture-captains and faction leaders who are more conversation-inclined made much kore sense for the Pathfinder Society Face Cards.
Zarata shows up on the battlemap in at least 3 scenarios... which is more than many of the named characters I see there.
This set is a huuuuuuge disappointment.
Just make a set for the card game next time and don't rip off the tabletop GMs trying to run PFS scenarios.
I think I was a bit salty when I made that last post. "Rip-off" is a strong word. The set is still well made with gorgeous art and has pawns you won't find anywhere else. I think the lack of venture-captains and the Bestiary and NPC Codex pawn repeats really exacerbated my disappointment with the set.
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bought this and like it, even though dont recognize most of named npc. had a thought. Why not create a set for each season and take more of my money.
If I had to guess, I'd say that a single season of PFS doesn't produce enough full-body pieces of art to fill up a whole pawn set. So they'd either need to commission a bunch of new art to make it work, or the set would be mostly reprints.
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bought this and like it, even though dont recognize most of named npc. had a thought. Why not create a set for each season and take more of my money.If I had to guess, I'd say that a single season of PFS doesn't produce enough full-body pieces of art to fill up a whole pawn set. So they'd either need to commission a bunch of new art to make it work, or the set would be mostly reprints.
Its usually one new full body per scenario, so 28. The main issue is that Scenario development and layout often finishes less than a month or two before the scenario is available to the public. Based on prior blogs, scenarios are played most often within 6 months of release. This means that you would have to wait until December to get the pawn set for the prior year, a full 4 months after the majority of the players have moved to the next season.
Has anyone begun a scenario index that shows which pawns are needed with each scenario?
Yes, I am curious who The Pale Silence are. Some kind of ninjas?
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Its usually one new full body per scenario, so 28. The main issue is that Scenario development and layout often finishes less than a month or two before the scenario is available to the public. Based on prior blogs, scenarios are played most often within 6 months of release. This means that you would have to wait until December to get the pawn set for the prior year, a full 4 months after the majority of the players have moved to the next season.bought this and like it, even though dont recognize most of named npc. had a thought. Why not create a set for each season and take more of my money.If I had to guess, I'd say that a single season of PFS doesn't produce enough full-body pieces of art to fill up a whole pawn set. So they'd either need to commission a bunch of new art to make it work, or the set would be mostly reprints.
Time is probably also a factor, but 28 pieces of art makes a single sheet of pawns. That's far short of the 8 or so pages that go into the typical pawn set.
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I may be the only one buying this just for Harvestmaster Quint. For some reason I really like his art, even if it is a bit generic bad guy-ish. But the whole arc with Zyphus is one of my favorites. Even if I have had a near TPK in every one. What can I say, my dice love heavy picks and hate players (even me).
Pardon the thread necromancy, but I recently picked up this set, and am curious if anyone has compiled a handy-dandy list of which scenario(s) each named character appears in? (Either by character or by scenario--both would be useful.)
I think I've played the majority of non-Seeker scenarios from early seasons, so I'm not worried about spoilers. It would just save me a lot of the effort of compiling my own list for reference for when my wife and I are prepping stuff to run.