Zeugma |
So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
James Sutter Managing Editor |
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GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
Marco Massoudi |
Zeugma wrote:GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
This has been moved to April. I wonder if the novel after that will be moved too because i don´t want the Dave gross novel that was scheduled for june to move too...
Do you have any information abot that?
James Sutter Managing Editor |
James Sutter wrote:Zeugma wrote:GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
This has been moved to April. I wonder if the novel after that will be moved too because i don´t want the Dave gross novel that was scheduled for june to move too...
Do you have any information abot that?
There have been some printing delays, but as you'll see at the top of the page, I think we're still looking for Firesoul to hit in late March.
Regardless, this will have absolutely no effect on the release date of the new Dave Gross novel. No worries. :)
Marco Massoudi |
Marco Massoudi wrote:James Sutter wrote:Zeugma wrote:GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
This has been moved to April. I wonder if the novel after that will be moved too because i don´t want the Dave gross novel that was scheduled for june to move too...
Do you have any information abot that?
There have been some printing delays, but as you'll see at the top of the page, I think we're still looking for Firesoul to hit in late March.
Regardless, this will have absolutely no effect on the release date of the new Dave Gross novel. No worries. :)
Sara Marie from Customer Service has written it has been moved to april.
Here is the link:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rr12?February-2015-New-Release-Shipping-Thread
But thank you for reassuring me.
I recon we will then have a novel in april, one in May and the one from Dave in June - good times! :-)
Kata. the ..... |
James Sutter wrote:Marco Massoudi wrote:James Sutter wrote:Zeugma wrote:GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
This has been moved to April. I wonder if the novel after that will be moved too because i don´t want the Dave gross novel that was scheduled for june to move too...
Do you have any information abot that?
There have been some printing delays, but as you'll see at the top of the page, I think we're still looking for Firesoul to hit in late March.
Regardless, this will have absolutely no effect on the release date of the new Dave Gross novel. No worries. :)
Sara Marie from Customer Service has written it has been moved to april.
Here is the link:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rr12?February-2015-New-Release-Shipping-Thread
But thank you for reassuring me.
I recon we will then have a novel in april, one in May and the one from Dave in June - good times! :-)
Looking at the schedule, it is still Late April, mid-May and June. I guess my bus rides will be all pathfinder for a while starting late next month. Looking forward to it. Now to finish some Feist that has been ignored.
Liane Merciel Contributor |
I just finished this one and wow it is SO MUCH FUN you guys.
I love it, definitely top tier Tales for me. It's really hard to do a classic adventuring party story well, and this is a great one. Hits all the expected beats (awesome monsters! colorful local scenery! party banter! classic four-person party!) but does it cleverly and without lapsing into cliche. And the writing is just a joy to read, which is always much appreciated.
I would dearly love to see these characters' adventures continue.
Steve Geddes |
I agree about the story (didn't feel "cliche" to me at all). It was very good. I struggled a bit with the pacing of the character development.
I also found one scene to be particularly unpleasant - definitely not a joy to read and beyond paizo's usual limits, in my view. Of course, given it affected me so strongly, I'd have to concede it was well written - just not what I expect to find in a PF Tales novel.
Liane Merciel Contributor |
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That was one of a few moments where I stepped out of the flow of the story as I was reading it, not because it disturbed me (although, granted, I have a pretty high bar), but because I started dissecting the scene in my head even as I was reading it for the first time. I don't normally do that, but I was really curious to see how the author would thread that particular needle.
I think he did a good job of it, and here's why:
Instead what we see are a bunch of head games, some humiliation, and very little actual physical damage -- certainly much less than in almost any combat scene in any of the novels. The focus is squarely on Team Evil's intents and nastiness. They don't actually hurt Jiri that badly, but they're very clearly shown to be capital-B Bad people, and so the stakes go way up for Jiri's escape: if she can't find a way out of this one, and soon, the next round's going to be awful.
I thought it was a highly effective scene in that it made the villains extremely villainous, made Jiri's situation truly dire, and yet didn't rely on gore or grisliness to achieve the effect. What's disturbing about that sequence -- and I agree, it is disturbing -- is that you don't often see that level of pure unvarnished sadism in these books (at least not on screen). But it's almost entirely a mental and emotional effect, there's very little reliance on physical damage. And so it makes you think about how brutally this character's being treated even when she's "not really being hurt" (is that a waterboarding allusion I see there? I think so!).
Also, I liked how it differentiated the various members of Team Evil into the ones who actually enjoy doing that sort of thing and the ones who are essentially indifferent to torture and not especially eager to get their hands dirty. (And, piggybacking off that point, it does a nice job of illustrating why even standing idly by when someone else does the dirty work is still very clearly Evil.) When you can use a torture scene for character development, that is a pretty good trick.
ALSO also, I liked how it made the Aspis Team Evil as much of a threat as the giant village-destroying mystery monster that was still running around in the background (and this paid off later, I think, when we got to find out exactly what that monster was and found out that its motivations and background were considerably more sympathetic than, say, Mikki's). Up until then it might have been possible to imagine that the human threat was maybe the less awful one. Afterward, not so much.
Of course it's completely reasonable that not everyone is going to be on board for that, but when I read the scene, my reaction was pretty much "aha, I see what you did there. And there. And oh hey, over there too. Neat!" So I didn't think it was gratuitously nasty, although it certainly was nasty.
But yes, I can certainly see why not everybody would love that scene. I think it plays an important role in the story, and I appreciate that the Tales are occasionally willing to push the boundaries a little, but that could easily be a bit much for some. :)
Steve Geddes |
I think violence and gore is expected in PF Tales (whether it should be acceptable in a nominally PG book is another matter, but I think our culture has a casual acceptance of physical violence, so there it is). The psychological torture was really quite uncomfortable for me - I don't really mind reading that stuff, but PF tales are generally "light romps" in my view and I was caught a little by surprise.
GeraintElberion |
Zeugma wrote:GeraintElberion wrote:So...
A sci-fi author with no web-fiction and no published novel-length fiction is dropped into cliche-danger territory.
I am concerned.
James better be showing some mad editor-fu here and have gone full diamond-in-the-rough with this author.
Do you have any links to any of Gary Kloster's short sci-fi, or a blog, or something? My Google-fu was weak and I had trouble finding him and wasn't sure if I had him or some other Gary Kloster in my search results.
Hopefully more info about the author will be forthcoming.
For the record, both Gary and I are fully aware of the danger inherent in a novel about the Mwangi Expanse—and the opportunity. The reason Gary hasn't done any web fiction yet is because the web fiction story I assigned him was so good that I immediately made him turn around and make it the first four chapters of this novel!
Long story short, I'm *really* excited about this one. Gary took on a monumental task, and knocked it out of the park. I can't wait for you all to read it. :)
Finally got round to reading this and really enjoyed it. Nice work all round.
I would happily read a sequel.