Ravenmantle |
Vampire Hunter is an inquisitor archetype that appears in Inner Sea Magic.
Like a lot of inquisitor archetypes, it takes away the inquisitor's Detect Alignment ability.
My apologies for the confusion my post caused. By "vampire slayer" I was actually refering to the specific character on the cover, a character which I'm assuming is a vampire slayer of sorts, perhaps an inquisitor (vampire hunter), based on the stakes the character carries. I was wondering if I'd seen artwork for the character before somewhere.
Of course, my post didn't include a single example of the word "artwork" and that can't have helped matters. :D
Kajehase |
Very cool cover. I'm pretty sure I've seen the vampire slayer somewhere before. Can't remember where, though.
She's reminiscent of a character in the opening illustration for the Bestiary in Adventure Path #8: Seven Days to the Grave (which I think has been reused somewhere else).
Wolf Munroe |
Looking at the picture, she kind of reminds me of my vampire character in Skyrim. Her armor looks a lot like the Skyrim vampire armor anyway.
A lot of vampires used to be vampire hunters. That's how they ended up as vampires. The stakes she carries may be a throwback to her days as a vampire hunter. (There's a vampire in one Pathfinder AP that carries +1 wooden stakes and was a vampire hunter in life.)
Or she could be a dhampir kinslayer that the Pharasmins have mistaken for a vampire. I mean surely not all dhampirs have white hair.
Laschoni |
Looking at the picture, she kind of reminds me of my vampire character in Skyrim. Her armor looks a lot like the Skyrim vampire armor anyway.
A lot of vampires used to be vampire hunters. That's how they ended up as vampires. The stakes she carries may be a throwback to her days as a vampire hunter. (There's a vampire in one Pathfinder AP that carries +1 wooden stakes and was a vampire hunter in life.)
Or she could be a dhampir kinslayer that the Pharasmins have mistaken for a vampire. I mean surely not all dhampirs have white hair.
2nd half of Council of Thieves if I recall
Tirisfal |
Yeah, I'm really confused on what's going on in the art. I mean, its beautifully drawn, but...
I liked someone else's idea that she's a dhampir kinslayer mistaken for a vampire by the Pharasmians...but why do the priests all look exactly alike?
And she's not farting fireballs...it looks like the priests are carrying torches.
Berselius |
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I really hope there are racial feats for Dhampirs that give them the ability to turn into a bat, go gasious form, change into a wolf, and other vampire abilities.
I really hope ordinary vampire hunter archetypes (aka humans) get more power in this book. The Vampire Hunter archetype just doesn't have that undead-killing SHABANG too it ya knows? It needs to be complimented by a prestige class (like the Aldori Swordlord and Winter Witch archetypes were).
Lilith |
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zergtitan wrote:I believe the priests are dhampirs and the other person is a vampire.The one in the middle has teeth and is dressed like a vampire hunter. As for the others, I'd be really surprised if dhampirs were allowed into the Pharasmian clergy.
Why wouldn't they be? Dhampirs aren't undead, and perhaps those that want to follow the Lady of Graves want to make sure that their unfortunate birth (if that's how they view it) doesn't happen again.
Lucent |
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As for the others, I'd be really surprised if dhampirs were allowed into the Pharasmian clergy.
Why?
They are not undead, and possess natural talents for discovering undead, and are resistant/immune to many undead attack forms. Provided that a pharasman cleric could distinguish a Humanoid from an Undead creature (not a hard task for someone with 1 rank in Knowledge (Religion)), I think it seems like a logical choice.
Race shouldn't be the issue, there.
Edit: A tip of my hat to Lilith on being a quicker draw.
Tirisfal |
Tirisfal wrote:As for the others, I'd be really surprised if dhampirs were allowed into the Pharasmian clergy.Why?
They are not undead, and possess natural talents for discovering undead, and are resistant/immune to many undead attack forms. Provided that a pharasman cleric could distinguish a Humanoid from an Undead creature (not a hard task for someone with 1 rank in Knowledge (Religion)), I think it seems like a logical choice.
Race shouldn't be the issue, there.
Edit: A tip of my hat to Lilith on being a quicker draw.
A complicated retort:
No, I understand that the Gray Lady wouldn't have an issue with a dhampir...and I understand that she has some measure of influence on who lives and dies, and their individual fates and destinies; as such, she may have a specific plan for a dhampir. That being said, the CLERGY, as fallible humans, might have some issues with ordaining them into the CHURCH, even if Pharasma doesn't have a problem with it herself, and still grants them spells (both the dhampir and the racist priests).
Just because Pharasma is just, doesn't mean her servants are. She's a busy Lady...the gods of Golarion, as far as I understand it, don't have time to smack each of their priests that step a bit out of line philosophically (unless its enough to get their spells stripped from them); and denying a dhampir a job as a priest via racial bigotry probably isn't high on her list unless she's got plans for them.
A more simple retort:
Dhampirs are really rare - I'd be more surprised if all three of them are dhampirs.
Ravenmantle |
Just because Pharasma is just, doesn't mean her servants are. She's a busy Lady...the gods of Golarion, as far as I understand it, don't have time to smack each of their priests that step a bit out of line philosophically (unless its enough to get their spells stripped from them); and denying a dhampir a job as a priest via racial bigotry probably isn't high on her list unless she's got plans for them.
True enough, but one thing that defines clerics and their ilk is their wise nature and their devotion to their deity's dogma. If Pharasma is perfectly fine with the existence of dhampirs, it stands to reason that the majority of her mortal servants respect that due to the simple fact that life is a very important part of the Pharasmin faith. Despite the tragic circumstances surrounding their genesis, each dhampir is a living creature.
I'm absolutely certain that some clergymen would protest at the notion of including a dhampir into the ranks of the clergy for whatever reason, be it speicism, superstition, or some other reason entirely, but for the most part, I think that dhampirs are accepted just as much as humans or elves or dwarves, perhaps even more so. In other words, as I see it, a Pharasmin scoffing (or worse) at the notion of a dhampir doing Pharasma's work is the exception rather than the rule.
Mikaze |
Or she could be a dhampir kinslayer that the Pharasmins have mistaken for a vampire. I mean surely not all dhampirs have white hair.
That what I'm figuring at the moment.
Kinda like how I rationalized Book of Fiends cover so that the tiefling could still be the hero on their player companion book, at least in headcanon.
Tirisfal |
Some Pharasmin sects might very well see dhampir as having one foot in the grave, so to speak. Could be seen as a blessing and a curse from that point of view.
I'm in this boat, but then, I really hate the undead.
Wolf Munroe wrote:Or she could be a dhampir kinslayer that the Pharasmins have mistaken for a vampire. I mean surely not all dhampirs have white hair.
That what I'm figuring at the moment.
Kinda like how I rationalized Book of Fiends cover so that the tiefling could still be the hero on their player companion book, at least in headcanon.
Yeah...how exactly did you figure that one? As a fan of tieflings, I love that Paizo goes out of their way to present them as being born of evil, but not necessarily being evil themselves, and then they show one getting smited by a pally on our companion book...? Anyway, that's off topic.
Does anybody here have the caster level to toss a Summon Greater Creative Director spell here? I'd love some explanation on the artwork on this. Mostly because I'm confused as to why all four of the priests look EXACTLY alike.
Mikaze |
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Yeah...how exactly did you figure that one?
Cultists firebomb the cathedral, killing a number of the clergy present before Seelah and her party arrived on the scene outside. While the cultists were being driven off, Seelah burst inside to save who she could.
At the same time the tiefling was standing over a bloodied nun. She had originally intended to flee at the first sign of trouble, but seeing the priestess that had granted her sanctaury in danger got the better of her conscience.
Seelah sees what looks like a diabolist stereotype over a bleeding nun, doesn't have a lot of time to think while in a burning building and with lives in the balance, and jumps to conclusions.
When her smite fails, Seelah realizes her mistake, quickly lays on hands both the tiefling and the nun, and drags them both to safety. From that point they find out that a couple of younger members of the clergy were abducted as leverage for the tiefling's return, so Seelah and the tiefling have to put aside their bad first meeting, team up, and fight crime.
Pre-asskicking lock-and-load montage required.
Painful romantic tension optional.
Laschoni |
I'm a bit late to the new cover, but is that a unholy symbol of Lamashtu hanging from the center figure's neck? Cause it looks that way. If only I could make the image larger and crisper on that one section!
Where is that fancy CSI imaging software?
I do agree that it appears to be Lamashtu.
nighttree |
The one in the middle has teeth and is dressed like a vampire hunter. As for the others, I'd be really surprised if dhampirs were allowed into the Pharasmian clergy.
My Dhampir Inquisitor of Pharasma saw your post, and is very offended.
Don't be suprized if you get a visit in the near future.Patrick Renie Developer |
I wonder, how much of this book is actually stuff for Dhampirs?
Quite a bit! If I had to assign an exact number, I'd say about half the book pertains to dhampir characters and half pertains to vampire characters, though there's plenty of cross-over as well. If you're playing a dhampir, this is a book you won't want to miss!
Kyle Lefever |
So ummm.... just checked my subscriptions and this has been pushed back yet again? to January? I love everything that Paizo does product wise, but seeing all of the development that's going on with the online game space, a card game and mythic rules, while also switching to a "monthly product line," I'm seeing a disturbing trend as far as tardiness on some of them. Honestly getting hit for $130 in one month for my subscriptions that do not include the core rulebooks seems a bit much. An reason why this is happening?
Jessica Price Project Manager |
So ummm.... just checked my subscriptions and this has been pushed back yet again? to January? I love everything that Paizo does product wise, but seeing all of the development that's going on with the online game space, a card game and mythic rules, while also switching to a "monthly product line," I'm seeing a disturbing trend as far as tardiness on some of them. Honestly getting hit for $130 in one month for my subscriptions that do not include the core rulebooks seems a bit much. An reason why this is happening?
With Blood of the Night, it sounds like someone may have bumped back the expected date to be cautious, or maybe the hurricane has affected ship dates and I haven't heard about it yet, but as far as I'm aware it's still on track for December -- I'll post here if I learn differently. You'll have to check with customer service to determine how much you're likely to be charged in a month with extra/late products shipping.
As far as a more global view, the card game and the MMO are licensed products being developed by outside companies. We're working to get a number of our internal product lines which were late (some, such as the modules, by several months) back on track, minimizing the impact of hardcovers on other lines, and making up lost time from convention season; we prioritized the Adventure Paths, and you can see the fruits of our labors in that they're shipping on time. Now that we have them back on time, we are turning our attention to the other product lines and we look forward to a brighter, shinier, more on-time future.
Kyle Lefever |
Thank you much Jessica. I know you guys have a lot going on right now and I don't mean to be abrasive. I was just shocked as I looked at my subs and saw all of them stack up for one month. It's certainly not enough to turn me away. Keep up the great work and I look forward to all of the products coming soon.
Patrick Renie Developer |
How much is for people who want to kill Vampires?
And just to check, there are no vampires that sparkle in the daylight?
There's definitely a lot of this too. I'm wary to put an exact ratio, but a significant portion of this book is highly valuable to vampire and dhampir slayers. Magic items, feats, traits, and more!
Berselius |
Stratagemini wrote:There's definitely a lot of this too. I'm wary to put an exact ratio, but a significant portion of this book is highly valuable to vampire and dhampir slayers. Magic items, feats, traits, and more!How much is for people who want to kill Vampires?
And just to check, there are no vampires that sparkle in the daylight?
Is the Vampire Hunter Inquisitor Archetype getting remake or a prestige class added onto it (like the Winter Witch or Aldori Swordlord archetypes)? Because as it is right now it leaves ALOT to be DESIRED (no offense).
Patrick Renie Developer |
Patrick Renie wrote:Is the Vampire Hunter Inquisitor Archetype getting remake or a prestige class added onto it (like the Winter Witch or Aldori Swordlord archetypes)? Because as it is right now it leaves ALOT to be DESIRED (no offense).Stratagemini wrote:There's definitely a lot of this too. I'm wary to put an exact ratio, but a significant portion of this book is highly valuable to vampire and dhampir slayers. Magic items, feats, traits, and more!How much is for people who want to kill Vampires?
And just to check, there are no vampires that sparkle in the daylight?
Nope. This book doesn't change or add anything regarding that archetype.
Axial |
Hey, Mr. Schneider...if you don't mind me asking, is there a Dhampir Heritage that doesn't have a Constitution penalty?
See, I always figured a Dhampir character would go well with this class because of all the blood-related abilities, it just seems fitting. http://www.pathfinderdb.com/character-options/classes/1358-dark-knight
But because the Dhampir gets -2 Con, it's not exactly practical.
Patrick Renie Developer |
Berselius |
Nope. This book doesn't change or add anything regarding that archetype.
Might I ask from the Developer of this book the reason for that decision. I only ask as I feel as it stands the current Vampire Hunter archetype lacks a GREAT DEAL OF APPEAL for those wishing to fight the hungry dead (as cool as Sun Strike is I don't feel an extra +1d6 dmg dealt merits a good Vampire Hunter or a Hunter of the Undead for that matter).