That is ALMOST like an investment. Don't flame me here. I did say almost. I would never recommend that you buy plastic toys to replace your 401K.
Me neither. I recommend overproof rum. Where else will you get 80%?
Luckily for me, gambling in my country is rather restrained.
Only legal gambling, my friend. Only legal. The real fun stuff, where contractual penalties include limb breaks rather than tax breaks is still totally free-form :P
And my contention has been price point.
All I was doing was pointing out an example of blind-packed, randomized product in stores.
Really? I didn't get that from your previous posts where you went on and on about how it needs a lame collectible miniatures game to go with it.
To which I still respond: Prove it. I have yet to see any evidence that a significant amount of DDM sales were from players of the miniatures instead of the vast majority being to role-players who wanted them for the same reason they will be buying Pathfinder minis: For use in D&D/Pathfinder games.
And my contention has been price point.
All I was doing was pointing out an example of blind-packed, randomized product in stores.Really? I didn't get that from your previous posts where you went on and on about how it needs a lame collectible miniatures game to go with it.
To which I still respond: Prove it. I have yet to see any evidence that a significant amount of DDM sales were from players of the miniatures instead of the vast majority being to role-players who wanted them for the same reason they will be buying Pathfinder minis: For use in D&D/Pathfinder games.
I can't prove that a miniature game would create a significant increase in the sales, I do think however that a mini game to go with it would open another sales avenue. So I am in favor of a mini game for that reason. And because I have several old DDM players who I could probably get to go in on minis with me.
And my contention has been price point.
All I was doing was pointing out an example of blind-packed, randomized product in stores.Really? I didn't get that from your previous posts where you went on and on about how it needs a lame collectible miniatures game to go with it.
To which I still respond: Prove it. I have yet to see any evidence that a significant amount of DDM sales were from players of the miniatures instead of the vast majority being to role-players who wanted them for the same reason they will be buying Pathfinder minis: For use in D&D/Pathfinder games.
I'll get that to you, right after I find the evidence that "miniature buys drive other purchases of game content" and "$4 is common market price point for blind-boxed random singles that don't have their own driving incentive to purchase them"
Its worth noting that neither are on the right sized base, and the troll is medium sized.I couldn't find size provided
Also, find me a hill giant, white dragon. Or grell. Or anything beyond your most basic low level fodder monsters, because that's all you can afford take the risk on with non-random plastic pre-paints.Are we moving the goalposts now? "Can't use Reaper LE minis or DDM minis to qualify, now find something that qualifies or else!"
I myself am satisfied with your Legendary Encounters example. I will point out that the Pathfinder/Wizkids method will bring twice as many sculpts to market within a year as Legendary Encounters has taken several times that long to produce by re-using existing sculpts.
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I'll get that to you, right after I find the evidence that "miniature buys drive other purchases of game content" and "$4 is common market price point for blind-boxed random singles that don't have their own driving incentive to purchase them"
If only someone engaged in the business of selling miniatures and rpgs had already indicated that they believe the model being discussed will be a successful one, based upon their experience and knowledge in the industry, including the reliability of those assumptions.
Oh wait, we already have that.
Hey! I just figured out something - is the avatar with the long nose intended to invoke a fictional character with a similar propensity relating to the truth?
It all makes sense now!
Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here, but if you want to debate the finer points of the roleplaying miniatures market, please create a new thread in the miniatures forum (for the market in general) or the licensed product forum (for Pathfinder Battles specifically).
To which I still respond: Prove it. I have yet to see any evidence that a significant amount of DDM sales were from players of the miniatures instead of the vast majority being to role-players who wanted them for the same reason they will be buying Pathfinder minis: For use in D&D/Pathfinder games.I'll get that to you, right after I find the evidence that "miniature buys drive other purchases of game content" and "$4 is common market price point for blind-boxed random singles that don't have their own driving incentive to purchase them"
I never claimed that "miniature buys drive other purchases of game content", that's other people.
At the moment "$4 is common market price point for blind-boxed random singles that don't have their own driving incentive to purchase them" is the only price point for such a product. So I guess it is the most common.
I'm betting that the $4-$6 price point will drive an amazing amount of impulse buys. If my local store carries them, I may pick one up every time I pick up comics.
I myself am satisfied with your Legendary Encounters example. I will point out that the Pathfinder/Wizkids method will bring twice as many sculpts to market within a year as Legendary Encounters has taken several times that long to produce by re-using existing sculpts.
Its worth noting that neither are on the right sized base, and the troll is medium sized.I couldn't find size provided
Also, find me a hill giant, white dragon. Or grell. Or anything beyond your most basic low level fodder monsters, because that's all you can afford take the risk on with non-random plastic pre-paints.Are we moving the goalposts now? "Can't use Reaper LE minis or DDM minis to qualify, now find something that qualifies or else!"
Hell by the time the Rise of the Runelords set comes out we will have 105 minis (minimum) versus 39 (45 if you count the extra sculpts in the multipack). So we could easily see 3 to 4 times as many minis in a year.:)
Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here.
Fair enough. I have one remaining question: I know you can't release the list of models yet, but can we get some sort of indication as to how many of the 40 models for the set will be large?
Fair enough. I have one remaining question: I know you can't release the list of models yet, but can we get some sort of indication as to how many of the 40 models for the set will be large?Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here.
I'd assume by the size of the cases it'd be 8~10. If you have a good shot of getting one of everything in a semi-random case with only 12 larges. Again, just a guess, but I'd think that should be close anyways.
I'd assume by the size of the cases it'd be 8~10. If you have a good shot of getting one of everything in a semi-random case with only 12 larges. Again, just a guess, but I'd think that should be close anyways.Fair enough. I have one remaining question: I know you can't release the list of models yet, but can we get some sort of indication as to how many of the 40 models for the set will be large?Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here.
I think you are being optimistic here. I would wager it is not more than 6 and probably closer to 5.
I'd expect: 1 rare, 1 uncommon, 3 common. In case of 12, you'd probably get 1 rare, 3 uncommons, and the rest would probably be commons.
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Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here, but if you want to debate the finer points of the roleplaying miniatures market, please create a new thread in the miniatures forum (for the market in general) or the licensed product forum (for Pathfinder Battles specifically).
Hey, wow, I feel vindicated.
I think this product is going to be awesome!
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I think you are being optimistic here. I would wager it is not more than 6 and probably closer to 5.
I'd expect: 1 rare, 1 uncommon, 3 common. In case of 12, you'd probably get 1 rare, 3 uncommons, and the rest would probably be commons.
Did you edit this Pressman? I didn't remember seeing your breakdown on first read. 12 boxes, I'm thinking like 4 common, 2 uncommon, 2 rare. 6/4/2 in an 'ideal' case.
Then again I don't know much about break downs. What would be good large commons? Ogres for sure. Mounted figures? (Alain being a rare?)
I'd assume by the size of the cases it'd be 8~10. If you have a good shot of getting one of everything in a semi-random case with only 12 larges. Again, just a guess, but I'd think that should be close anyways.Fair enough. I have one remaining question: I know you can't release the list of models yet, but can we get some sort of indication as to how many of the 40 models for the set will be large?Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here.
I think you are being optimistic here. I would wager it is not more than 6 and probably closer to 5.
I'd expect: 1 rare, 1 uncommon, 3 common. In case of 12, you'd probably get 1 rare, 3 uncommons, and the rest would probably be commons.
Yes a bit optimistic probably, my first gut was 6~8, but I was going for what would a high cap, based on possible maximums. 1 rare, 2 uncommon, and 3 commons would probably be a good guess too. However, that's all it really is, a guess.
I think you are being optimistic here. I would wager it is not more than 6 and probably closer to 5.
I'd expect: 1 rare, 1 uncommon, 3 common. In case of 12, you'd probably get 1 rare, 3 uncommons, and the rest would probably be commons.Did you edit this Pres man? I didn't remember seeing your breakdown on first read. 12 boxes, I'm thinking like 4 common, 2 uncommon, 2 rare. 6/4/2 in an 'ideal' case.
Then again I don't know much about break downs. What would be good large commons? Ogres for sure. Mounted figures? (Alain being a rare?)
Yes, I did.
I would wager the troll is going to be a common. The other commons probably won't be humanoid.The frost giant is probably an uncommon. (What is the deal with the bare chest by the way? Shouldn't he be wearing armor of some type?)
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Yes, I did.
I would wager the troll is going to be a common. The other commons probably won't be humanoid.
The frost giant is probably an uncommon. (What is the deal with the bare chest by the way? Shouldn't he be wearing armor of some type?)
He's got the same magic armor that protects cleavage...
I suggest for everyone who has an issue with the distribution/marketing of this product to take it over to Wizkids and let them know because posting about here is really not the way to go....
On a different note, I agree with a lot of people because I too hate the randomness (see my first post in this thread for my reaction to the news) but I have since decided that it will be a necessary evil for this product to exist at all. Several people are hung up on the individual figure packaging, which sucks, but the next set will not be like that. However...there may not be a next set without Wizkids making some kind of money off of this one, so catch 22 there.
Two things:
1) WizKids folks are reading this thread (and we Paizo people are, even while at Gen Con), so there's no need to fear that messages posted here aren't being heard by the right people.
2) I am seriously not at all worried about this first set underselling to the point where there will not be a second set. Like, seriously not worried about it at all. Even if everyone who has raised a single concern about this set (and I _do_ understand a lot of those concerns and am not trying to discount them) decided that they absolutely could not buy any of the first set, I still think the first set would be a smashing success. Especially after seeing paint masters and sculpts here at Gen Con. The quality of these minis is going to make believers out of a lot of skeptics, and I am far more worried that we will not make enough to meet demand than I am that the line will sell so poorly that we immediately cancel it. That simply isn't going to happen.
ZOMG! Eric Mona responded to my post! *swoons*
On a more serious note I'm well aware of both of these things....I was making a very subtle attempt to tell people to take their garbage elsewhere and leave my favorite forums alone.
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You se this post? This post is something I agree with.While I'm certain that it's all been debated in the previous threads, I do feel the need to voice my two cents.
I find the models themselves to be looking really well done when judging by the pictures, and I'd love to own them.
But not at a price of 4 dollars each. For that, I'll happily substitue HeroClix models, or even MageKnight ones, as they at least come in a package of 4 at a price of 7 dollars for a pack.
Sorry Paizo, but much as I love your products and find that your Adventure Paths and hardcovers are usually worth more than the price you ask, this isn't the case here.
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The point is I don't remotely see how selling minis that give no benefit for a game other than character representation would encourage people to buy the game they are representing characters for. There is no driving incentive. For D&D/PF players to buy the minis? Some in that they want character representation. For people buying the minis to spontaneously deciding to pick up rule books for a game they (a) aren't playing and (b) can find the rules for free online simply because they bought character minis is ridiculous.Thankfully, reality is not dependent upon your limited ability to understand or perceive it. Again, you'd have to accept the base assumption that your opinions are not universally held, which, I realize, is well outside what your ego can handle.
Hey stick to the law. Psychology is my thing.
He's got the same magic armor that protects cleavage...Yes, I did.
I would wager the troll is going to be a common. The other commons probably won't be humanoid.
The frost giant is probably an uncommon. (What is the deal with the bare chest by the way? Shouldn't he be wearing armor of some type?)
So he has magic heavage?
What would be good large commons? Ogres for sure. Mounted figures? (Alain being a rare?)
I think ogres are the iconic large commons.
I don't think mounted figures will be anything other than rare (I'll assume that there will be common, uncommon and rare figures). Certainly not common. They're complex buggers, and complexity translates into rare status. At least that's how it was in DDM.
Things I can see as common large miniatures:
Ogres.
Minotaurs.
Dire Wolves (and other dire animals).
Horses (maybe even a warhorse with barding).
Owlbears.
Probably a lot of other stuff found on the summon lists.
Trolls
Uncommons would be
Pegasi
Unicorns (though they might also be common)
Centaurs
Large Elementals (since I think they will have clear plastic parts, and that might be too much for common. Earth elementals would make good commons)
Genies (not quite sure about those)
Nightmares
Some of the mid-level giants
Some of the mid-level outsiders, especially stuff from the "races" (i.e. everything that is a group containing several entries, like devils, demons, etc)
Rares:
Everything mounted (except maybe some very simple mounted figure, which might be uncommon)
Stronger Giants
High-end outsiders (balors, pit fiends, solars)
Dragons
It could be completely different, though. I do think that CR will probably be one determining factor.
Fair enough. I have one remaining question: I know you can't release the list of models yet, but can we get some sort of indication as to how many of the 40 models for the set will be large?
A case will have 12 large boosters. Since the case is supposed to have the whole set, more than 12 is basically impossible. And 12 is highly unlikely. I doubt it's more than 8, I can see it going as low as 6.
Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here, but if you want to debate the finer points of the roleplaying miniatures market, please create a new thread in the miniatures forum (for the market in general) or the licensed product forum (for Pathfinder Battles specifically).
Shouldn't the Pathfinder Battles products get their own forum/subforum?
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At the time where either of us posted, it'd not been announced that we were to take it to another forum, as that message was posted roughly 2 hours ago. My original one is 5 hours and 40 minutes old, and Lordofkhybr's response is 5 hours and 16 minutes.
That of course being the case now, should I feel the need to voice any further opinion on the matter (which, incidentally I don't), that'll be relegated to another forum or thread.
Stuff about Cartigan being wrong.
Statisically, he's bound to be right eventually....
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Its worth noting that neither are on the right sized base, and the troll is medium sized.I couldn't find size provided
Also, find me a hill giant, white dragon. Or grell. Or anything beyond your most basic low level fodder monsters, because that's all you can afford take the risk on with non-random plastic pre-paints.Are we moving the goalposts now? "Can't use Reaper LE minis or DDM minis to qualify, now find something that qualifies or else!"
Congrats, you found one instance....that several other people already mentioned...which means you did nothing. The task was for you to find a single instance where you can purchase LARGE Prepainted plastic nonrandom Minis (3 inch bases, larger than a medium fig) for under $6. Guess what? You won't be able to do it. Wanna know why? Because it is not a viable way to make the figures. The LE figures don't count because they do not meet the size qualifiers. The DDM's do not count BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SECONDARY MARKET.
*takes deep breath*
I need to stop reading this thread.....
Its worth noting that neither are on the right sized base, and the troll is medium sized.I couldn't find size provided
Also, find me a hill giant, white dragon. Or grell. Or anything beyond your most basic low level fodder monsters, because that's all you can afford take the risk on with non-random plastic pre-paints.Are we moving the goalposts now? "Can't use Reaper LE minis or DDM minis to qualify, now find something that qualifies or else!"Congrats, you found one instance....that several other people already mentioned...which means you did nothing. The task was for you to find a single instance where you can purchase LARGE Prepainted plastic nonrandom Minis (3 inch bases, larger than a medium fig) for under $6. Guess what? You won't be able to do it. Wanna know why? Because it is not a viable way to make the figures. The LE figures don't count because they do not meet the size qualifiers. The DDM's do not count BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SECONDARY MARKET.
*takes deep breath*
I need to stop reading this thread.....
You need to take this somewhere else to discuss.
Also, FYI, large is 2 inch bases, not 3, those are huge.
Folks, this has gone on long enough.
Discussions specifically relating to Heroes and Monsters still belong here, but if you want to debate the finer points of the roleplaying miniatures market, please create a new thread in the miniatures forum (for the market in general) or the licensed product forum (for Pathfinder Battles specifically).
Well don't I feel silly now....
To those of you who have responded to my recent posts...keep in mind I was posting as I was reading.
Well apparently the lizard sale business is very unethical...
Uh, from my posts here, you can't tell I say whatever I want, damn the consequences? That's not keyboard courage, that's me.
When do we get a list of the miniatures?
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Thankfully, reality is not dependent upon your limited ability to understand or perceive it. Again, you'd have to accept the base assumption that your opinions are not universally held, which, I realize, is well outside what your ego can handle.
Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
That comment, and some of the others nearby, are absolutely unnecessary and do not contribute in any way to a healthy discussion or a growing community. Things like this hurt not only your own image but that of the game itself - as in 'people that play Pathfinder are jerks'.
You may think it's cool to be snarky, and your buddies may all line up for high-fives, but if you want people to participate here you have to rein it in.
Could you imagine what might happen to the attitude of a Beginner Box customer when they see this sort of trash?
Not cool.
OK, I am not one to back out of a fight, especially one I fell 100% in the right in, but one of you smarties figured out my cell phone and just went as crazy on me as I've been accused of being in this thread.
I can be bashed and name called, but threatening me over plastic dolls? OK, you can have your thread.
BTW, I recorded all but the first minute or so of your rant. Since your area code is in the same state as mine, I've called the police.
Enjoy Paizo.com people. I know I'm in the minority here, but if that is the majority, I think I'll bow out for a while. A long while.
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Thankfully, reality is not dependent upon your limited ability to understand or perceive it. Again, you'd have to accept the base assumption that your opinions are not universally held, which, I realize, is well outside what your ego can handle.Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
That comment, and some of the others nearby, are absolutely unnecessary and do not contribute in any way to a healthy discussion or a growing community. Things like this hurt not only your own image but that of the game itself - as in 'people that play Pathfinder are jerks'.
You may think it's cool to be snarky, and your buddies may all line up for high-fives, but if you want people to participate here you have to rein it in.
Could you imagine what might happen to the attitude of a Beginner Box customer when they see this sort of trash?
Not cool.
Look, you might be new around here, but Carty is a black hole of negativity for several years running, and his default attitude on any given topic is "this is bad. I don't like it.". The day he will give as much as damning praise about anything will be a worldwide holiday.
Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
That comment, and some of the others nearby, are absolutely unnecessary and do not contribute in any way to a healthy discussion or a growing community. Things like this hurt not only your own image but that of the game itself - as in 'people that play Pathfinder are jerks'.
Other places have similar reputations except as applies to other game systems. Turns out, people on the internet or jerks. Or more precisely, jerks tend to stand out in the crowd. I think most of the Paizo message board goers are decent people. It's just that a very vocal subset gets a lot of attention.
OK, I am not one to back out of a fight, especially one I fell 100% in the right in, but one of you smarties figured out my cell phone and just went as crazy on me as I've been accused of being in this thread.
I've disagreed with you on this thread, but that was definitely not cool. I'd like to think that if we met in real life we could be friendly and talk about other things. I'd love to see pictures of your geckos sometime.
Anyway, I apologize that messageboard discussions got that far out of hand.
OK, I am not one to back out of a fight, especially one I fell 100% in the right in, but one of you smarties figured out my cell phone and just went as crazy on me as I've been accused of being in this thread.
I can be bashed and name called, but threatening me over plastic dolls? OK, you can have your thread.
BTW, I recorded all but the first minute or so of your rant. Since your area code is in the same state as mine, I've called the police.
Enjoy Paizo.com people. I know I'm in the minority here, but if that is the majority, I think I'll bow out for a while. A long while.
Sounds like douche-baggery of the highest order -- the person who called you probably has some mental issues. :(
Removed a post. That was uncalled for.
Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
Yes. In fact, I've sometimes ended up on the wrong side of that myself. No fun, and no good for anyone.
I couldn't find size provided
Its worth noting that neither are on the right sized base, and the troll is medium sized.
I've seen them in person. The ogre is the best of the lot, but he's on what is more or less a 2" x 1" base (calvary base)
Also, find me a hill giant, white dragon. Or grell. Or anything beyond your most basic low level fodder monsters, because that's all you can afford take the risk on with non-random plastic pre-paints.Are we moving the goalposts now? "Can't use Reaper LE minis or DDM minis to qualify, now find something that qualifies or else!"
Its not moving goalposts. Its pointing out that non-random has terrible variety, so isnt good for DM's who want to have minis anything beyond low level mooks. This is due to the high cost of molds, requiring anything made sell a LOT of copies to be viable. People buy lots of orcs. They dont buy lots of Balors.
Hopefully the rarity schemes can take into account that lots of high level monsters ARE fought in groups. Its kind of frustrating seeing the commons top out at low levels.
Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
Agreed. Too much group-think typically infests every online forum though so this is by no means a Paizo specific problem. That said, you are more likely to be hounded by the regulars if you don't have a well thought out post. For example I rarely post and don't always hold the popular opinion on an issue but have only been responded to kindly that I recall.
Since my previous posts were not super highly positive and the thread hasn't gotten much fun since, I just want to say the minis I've seen so far look amazing. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on them. I saw the Ezren pic on the blog. Are there any samples of the Pathfinder Battles minis at Gen Con? If so, does anybody have pics?
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OK, I am not one to back out of a fight, especially one I fell 100% in the right in, but one of you smarties figured out my cell phone and just went as crazy on me as I've been accused of being in this thread.
I can be bashed and name called, but threatening me over plastic dolls? OK, you can have your thread.
BTW, I recorded all but the first minute or so of your rant. Since your area code is in the same state as mine, I've called the police.
I am really sorry to hear this. This is completely unacceptable behavior. Please email me at webmaster@paizo.com with any details the police are able to find.
Just announced! See the Press Release here!
We will be making the black dragon case premium available to those who order cases from paizo.com, and in other ways as well. Details on that will be announced later.
Holy frak... there goes my wallet.
Edit: Vic the link currently only points to the original iconics set.
Same here.
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Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?Yes. In fact, I've sometimes ended up on the wrong side of that myself. No fun, and no good for anyone.
Bugley,
I'd point out that there's a difference between disagreeing with a business decision (like you and I did with the APG stuff in Carrion Crown) and calling the CEO a liar.
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OK, I am not one to back out of a fight, especially one I fell 100% in the right in, but one of you smarties figured out my cell phone and just went as crazy on me as I've been accused of being in this thread.
I can be bashed and name called, but threatening me over plastic dolls? OK, you can have your thread.
BTW, I recorded all but the first minute or so of your rant. Since your area code is in the same state as mine, I've called the police.
Enjoy Paizo.com people. I know I'm in the minority here, but if that is the majority, I think I'll bow out for a while. A long while.
Not to further validate the group theory think, but that's completely assinine and I can say without reservation that the person who did that was an a!#!%&@ with mental health issues.
Which isn't to say I'm not an a&&$#*& with mental health issues, but there's a matter of perspective. Plus, as I mentioned previously, you get serious props from me for breeding geckos for a living. I've got no ill will for you - there's a good chance I'll have forgotten this dust up the next time I encounter you in a thread (assuming such next time exists) and will smack down whoever you're feuding with at such time. I piss off so many people, it's hard to keep track of them all.
Sorry to hear it got personal. Best of luck to you in finding a company that produces a product you like.
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Off topic, but were you guys aware that this forum has a reputation for being inhospitable towards anyone with a less-than-frothing love for all things Paizo?
I hear that the DailyKos is inhospitable towards people who bash liberals and liberal policies and the same with regards to the Drudge Report and conservative bashing. From this, I can only conclude that everyone who follows politics is an a%%*!!&.
Oh wait...that is probably true...
By the way, do the other forums mention me by name? Because, if so, that would be rad.
Could you imagine what might happen to the attitude of a Beginner Box customer when they see this sort of trash?
If a Beginner Box customer came in, saw some ridiculous nerdrage, and the subsequent smack-down, I expect they'd understand the cause and effect inherent in such an interaction. Particularly if the person came to say they'd never purchase something from Paizo ever because the Beginner Box exists.
Not cool.
But sexy. Damn sexy.
I can't recall jumping down anyone's throat who said something like "Neat idea, but at $4/mini, it's just not for me" or "Too bad - I like minis, but this random thing is a deal-breaker for me." For god's sake, don't buy a product you don't want. I'm not going to give anyone hell for that.
But the armchair quarterbacking of "I know how to sell minis" or the nerdrage of "I'll never buy anything from Paizo because these minis exist" invites the reaction it received in this thread (except, of course, the calling someone on the phone to b@%~+ them out, that's way over the line).
Once you post in a manner that suggests you want to have an intelligent conversation, I'm certain you'll get an intelligent, non-hostile reaction. That's not what you did, and the reaction you received should not come as a surprise. Nor is it unique to this forum.
Edit: Selectively quoting the part of a post where someone says "random minis is a deal-breaker for me" and leaving out the part where they go on to say "they'll never sell and this product is an insult to god and man alike" and I respond in a less than friendly manner, doesn't count.
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The 'gecko saga' is now the weirdest thing on these forums, which is pretty impressive.
Gecko Guy's history lacks histrionics (see what I did there), so it begins with nerdrage of otherwise affable paizonian.
This is followed by the most long-winded and tedious argument this side of the Elves of Golarion thread.
Then Gecko Guy signs off, letting us know he's been hounded in RL about this! I didn't even know that was possible!
So, um, yeah... those sculpts look pretty cool. Guess we'll have to wait a while before we get any more information.
Is this whole topic an example of Aristotelean Interwebbery? Nature abhors a vacuum.
I myself will move a lot within these few years so I'm not buying any more miniatures until I've settle down.
But I really REALLY want one of those Black Dragon miniatures...
I am sad.