Pathfinder Adventure Path #2: The Skinsaw Murders (Rise of the Runelords 2 of 6) (OGL)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path #2: The Skinsaw Murders (Rise of the Runelords 2 of 6) (OGL)
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The Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path continues! A sudden string of brutal killings terrorizes the town of Sandpoint, and the killer's mark bears a familiar shape. Investigation leads to the Lost Coast's most notorious haunted mansion, a dilapidated ruin that has become the lair of a monstrous murderer. Yet this killer is but one of many, a member of a group of fanatic cutthroats calling themselves the Skinsaw Men. To defeat the cult, the PCs must travel to the bustling city of Magnimar to unravel the sinister source of these murders before they become the Skinsaw Men's next victims!

This volume of Pathfinder Adventure Path continues the Rise of the Runelords Adventure Path and includes:

  • "The Skinsaw Murders," an adventure for 4th-level characters by Richard Pett.
  • Details on Magnimar, the City of Monuments, by F. Wesley Schneider.
  • Information on the church of Desna, goddess of dreams, stars, and travel, by Sean K Reynolds.
  • The second installment of the Pathfinder's Journal, by Jason Bulmahn.
  • Six new monsters by Jason Bulmahn, James Jacobs, Richard Pett, and F. Wesley Schneider.

ISBN-13: 978-1-60125-037-7

Web Supplement: An additional map of Magnimar may be found in the Paizo blog entry for October 5, 2007.

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The best adventure since Elemental Evil

5/5

The Skinsaw Murders quickly became one of my all time favorite adventures... ever!

Without spoiling the best parts, Pett developed a fantastic mechanic to recreate the best hauntings of the best horror flicks. A whole flavor of horror stories have been missing for decades, and now Pett brings hauntings alive in a way that will leave your players screaming in terror as they flee and die.

The only drawback is there are several spots that could be potential Total Party Kills. Not for the feint hearted. A great story ties it all together with a classic haunted house location and more!

Turn down the lights, put out some candles, and some spooky music and watch your players tremble in terror!


Here goes your horror rules

5/5

Well, aparently the second adventure of the 2 complete APs is better than the first! looking foward for the second adventure of SD!

The adventure starts out on a firm "detective-like" setting, which by the way I found very nicely aid.

The second big part of the adventure takes a very interesting turn into a horror-style adventure (more "haunted" maybe) and introduces a great set of rules for this kind of adventure. This alone is very well worth a star!.


Great adventure.

5/5

This is arguably the best undead-based adventure I've seen, and many appear to agree with me -- it sold out first, and it got up to 150 pounds on Ebay. If you haven't read this, pick it up when it reprints next month.


Not there yet...

3/5

I hate to be a party-pooper but the Skinsaw Murders still doesn't make it to the all-time greats that everyone is ranting about.

Firstly, I'm not a PF hater (look into my nick and you'll see I'm a die-hard subscriber of many), instead I'm a game lover. I've read extensively and as such, Skinsaw Murders will only be ranked as above average. Why?

(1) Game hook is too weak - a good game needs a really good hook to involve the players. Of course the DM can think of something (which I did) but the writer should have done this. It's part of the game. Why will player go to foxglove manor? Why go to Magnimar? Why even kill ZZZZ? Is it that important to do so? What if the players miss the lead in the manor? How will the players know that XXXX is the cause of all the problems? Was it mention in the manor climax?

(2) Passive villains - again and like many other rpg games, the villains are way too passive. No doubt XXXX, YYYY and ZZZZ had done evil things according to the writer's synopsis but will the players know? Are they actively seeking out the players or like YYYY and ZZZZ waiting at the final point for the players to turn up and fight it out? Good villains should be involved along the plot, dropping hints of their (mis)doings or frustrating the players at certain points. In Skinsaw murders? Nope. I had to improvise here again.

(3) Too much is too little - The Foxglove manor is definitely creepy and innovative in its handling (although it was done before by other writer, can't remember which game) but throughout, it is just like this. This haunting and that haunting...room after room. Possibly the players found its a relief to meet XXXX and have a good fight with him.

Well, I'm off to read the Hook Mountain Massacre. I hope that it doesn't disappoint.


Another in a pattern of consistent quality

5/5

Great story, great villains, great original monsters. Watch out, though, one of the final bosses is a TPK waiting to happen.


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Scarab Sages

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:
Twizz wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:

We are putting the final touches on a reprint of #2, and once we give the go ahead to the printer, it will take about 6 weeks to get here. I expect that we will give that go ahead this coming week.

-Lisa

I can't believe this book is $50.00 on the secondary market.

Since your company is supporting 3.5. I'm also gonna carry some 3.5 material in my retail store. So I went to restock on all the Pathfinder Runelord series. Only to discover #2 is out of print.
Makes it hard to carry the whole line when one issue is out of print.

Plz give the go ahead at the printer. Summer is coming and retailers need this on our shelves.

$50 - gosh!
Well someones head just swelled up to 10 times the normal size. :)

Just don't tell him how much people are trying to sell it for on the Amazon.co.uk marketplace, I made a lot of incoherent spluttering noises when I looked those up a few weeks ago.

Seriously, I'm so glad it's being reprinted, I'd have ended up spending a fortune just to get rid of that damn hole in my collection

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Illessa wrote:

Just don't tell him how much people are trying to sell it for on the Amazon.co.uk marketplace, I made a lot of incoherent spluttering noises when I looked those up a few weeks ago.

Seriously, I'm so glad it's being reprinted, I'd have ended up spending a fortune just to get rid of that damn hole in my collection

If my rudimentary economics education serves me well, (and I seriously doubt that it does) these extremely high prices forthis book lead me to believe that the demand for the Pathfinder line as a whole is a lot larger than I had ever guessed. Which is great! Then again, no one seems to be willing to pay $50 or more for the book, so maybe the demand isn't yet that high amd thus the equilibrium price has not yet been reached.


Will there be a print version anytime soon again?
I just threw my group at this great Adventure PAth and now part 2 is unavailable - save for horrendous prices om Amazon(.de) :(

Contributor

yoda8myhead wrote:
Illessa wrote:

Just don't tell him how much people are trying to sell it for on the Amazon.co.uk marketplace, I made a lot of incoherent spluttering noises when I looked those up a few weeks ago.

Seriously, I'm so glad it's being reprinted, I'd have ended up spending a fortune just to get rid of that damn hole in my collection

£105 - flippin eck!

Scarab Sages

Heimdall wrote:

Will there be a print version anytime soon again?

I just threw my group at this great Adventure PAth and now part 2 is unavailable - save for horrendous prices om Amazon(.de) :(

About halfway down the previous page

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We are putting the final touches on a reprint of #2, and once we give the go ahead to the printer, it will take about 6 weeks to get here. I expect that we will give that go ahead this coming week.

-Lisa

Assuming it all went ahead without a hitch then I guess it will be available again from early June, perhaps late May if we're lucky.

Contributor

Hmm...and having just checked number 3, I feel an email to louge coming on.

aha ahahaha

Scarab Sages

Richard Pett wrote:

Hmm...and having just checked number 3, I feel an email to louge coming on.

aha ahahaha

Oh dear


Illessa wrote:

...About halfway down the previous page...

Assuming it all went ahead without a hitch then I guess it will be available again from early June, perhaps late May if we're lucky.

Thanks Illessa - should have checked the forums before posting.

Maybe it was the shock after looking it up on amazon ;)
But 105GBP that's hilarious. Maybe I should buy the ones in .de and sell them in .uk for a nice profit :D

Sovereign Court Contributor

Today at CanGames, I noticed several copies of this for sale at one of the dealer booths. I'll try to remember to look in here in the morning before I go back, and if anyone wants one at the regular price plus shipping from Ottawa, Canada, post here and I'll try to grab some copies. You can pay me by paypal and I'll ship them out in refurbished Paizo mailers.

Sorry fot the short notice, but it is what it is...


I thought this was going to be reprinted?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Andre Caceres wrote:
I thought this was going to be reprinted?

It's being reprinted now. I believe we're expecting to have in in our warehouse in July.

Scarab Sages

*does the backorder dance*
Soon that annoying gap in my collection will be gone, soooooooooon...

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
It's being reprinted now. I believe we're expecting to have in in our warehouse in July.

"Just" reprinted or?

Paizo Employee CEO

Stegger wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
It's being reprinted now. I believe we're expecting to have in in our warehouse in July.
"Just" reprinted or?

Just reprinted. We wanted to have this in stock for GenCon, so it is exactly the same as the first printing.

-Lisa

Sovereign Court

Lisa Stevens wrote:
Stegger wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
It's being reprinted now. I believe we're expecting to have in in our warehouse in July.
"Just" reprinted or?

Just reprinted. We wanted to have this in stock for GenCon, so it is exactly the same as the first printing.

-Lisa

Cool, that's the hole in my collection too. It's funny that Pathfinder followed the same path as comics when it came to pricing and demand.

Liberty's Edge

Thank you Lisa

Contributor

Huzzah!


One question: Where do I download the extra maps promised on pg.63? Is it a map folio I have to buy, or is it free content I can't seem to find?


Krisam wrote:
One question: Where do I download the extra maps promised on pg.63? Is it a map folio I have to buy, or is it free content I can't seem to find?

Here you are: Magnimar map.


Cormac wrote:


Here you are: Magnimar map.

Thank you, Cormac!


I also have come here fir the Magnimar downloadable content, but I see none.. has it gone or never was?

Scarab Sages

Lisa Stevens wrote:
Stegger wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
It's being reprinted now. I believe we're expecting to have in in our warehouse in July.
"Just" reprinted or?

Just reprinted. We wanted to have this in stock for GenCon, so it is exactly the same as the first printing.

-Lisa

Hurray! You guys just made some money. I have been putting off getting the APs until I was sure I could get all of them.

Now that I have #2 on backorder, I am heading to my FLGS to get 1 and 3-6 and the PGs.

Once I get caught up, I will become a subscriber with the new series!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

The reprint should be arriving in our warehouse any day now!

Scarab Sages

Vic Wertz wrote:
The reprint should be arriving in our warehouse any day now!

::Heart beating faster in anticipation::

Quick question (should probably be in website feedback, but I'll give it a go here):

If I have products to be delivered, and backordered products, and I ordered them at different times, is there any way to change the shipping so they go out simultaneously?

I know you can do this on a simultaneous order, but not sure about otherwise.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Jal Dorak wrote:
If I have products to be delivered, and backordered products, and I ordered them at different times, is there any way to change the shipping so they go out simultaneously?

Currently, no, but we're working on it.

And we learned today that the Pathfinder 2 reprint will be arriving in the same shipment with Pathfinder 12 and 13, Pathfinder Companion: Second Darkness, and the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting, at the end of the month.

Scarab Sages

Any arrival yet on the reprint? My account still says it is backordered.

What am I to read until the PRPG Beta comes out? ;)

Scarab Sages

Jal Dorak wrote:

Any arrival yet on the reprint? My account still says it is backordered.

What am I to read until the PRPG Beta comes out? ;)

If what Vic says above is true, then I seem to remember mention in another thread a couple of days ago that PF 12, PF 13, the Campaign Setting and the Second Darkness Companion were all on trucks and set to arrive in the warehouse this week as they were hoping to start fulfilling subscriptions by Friday if not earlier, so hopefully that's true here too :).

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Illessa wrote:
Jal Dorak wrote:

Any arrival yet on the reprint? My account still says it is backordered.

What am I to read until the PRPG Beta comes out? ;)

If what Vic says above is true, then I seem to remember mention in another thread a couple of days ago that PF 12, PF 13, the Campaign Setting and the Second Darkness Companion were all on trucks and set to arrive in the warehouse this week as they were hoping to start fulfilling subscriptions by Friday if not earlier, so hopefully that's true here too :).

Vic said last night in the PFS chat that everything was in the warehouse now and would start shipping to subscribers today and tomorrow. So they should have Skinsaw in again, but best to wait for an official confirmation of that before you get too excited.

Liberty's Edge

I would be interested to hear about this too. im after a copy but dont really fancy paying £150+ from amazon uk

will this be available at gen con uk or am I better off just ordering it from here?

Ta

Rich

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

It is in stock now.

We're sending a *small* quantity to Gen Con UK. You may want to go to the Paizo booth early....

Scarab Sages

Vic Wertz wrote:

It is in stock now.

We're sending a *small* quantity to Gen Con UK. You may want to go to the Paizo booth early....

Thanks, Vic!

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:

It is in stock now.

We're sending a *small* quantity to Gen Con UK. You may want to go to the Paizo booth early....

nice one. I hope friday mornin is early enough though...whats the chance of pre ordering stuff for collection at the con to ya know avoid dissapointment.i got some overtime i gotta spend before the other half gets her hands on it : )

Liberty's Edge

Doh ignore my last!just found the answer in another thread!

Rich

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Rich2346 wrote:
whats the chance of pre ordering stuff for collection at the con to ya know avoid dissapointment.

Sorry—our store just doesn't work that way.

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
Rich2346 wrote:
whats the chance of pre ordering stuff for collection at the con to ya know avoid dissapointment.
Sorry—our store just doesn't work that way.

Yeah I saw the post on another thread sayin you didnt after i wrote that...sorry!

ah well fingers crossed that you got enough for me and my gaming group : )


Will you guys be resupplying B&N with this book as well or do we have to order it threw the paizo store?

Scarab Sages

Hurray! I've been away for a week, but I found out my copy shipped about 5 days ago. I can't wait!

Former VP of Finance

Bugoo2 wrote:

Will you guys be resupplying B&N with this book as well or do we have to order it threw the paizo store?

It will be available through all of our normal distribution channels. If you want to see it in your local FLGS or bookstore, be sure to request it!


Ok, its just I keep checking at B&N and they keep telling me out of stock, I don't mind ordering threw paizo but the extra shipping charge hurts and I'd rather spend that money toward the classic monster book =)

Former VP of Finance

Bugoo2 wrote:
Ok, its just I keep checking at B&N and they keep telling me out of stock, I don't mind ordering threw paizo but the extra shipping charge hurts and I'd rather spend that money toward the classic monster book =)

Hey Bugoo2,

Diamond Books' restock of PF2 left our warehouse on the 12th. They should have gotten it in the past few days. The Diamond website went down as I was trying to see if B&N has been shipped an order of it, so I don't know if their order has gone out yet. But, if they have it on order, it should have gone out in the past two days. I don't know what B&N's turnaround is from their warehouse to their stores, but I would expect it to be there in the next few days to a week. Assuming they ordered it already.


Can anyone tell me whether the maps in this are miniature scale? I'm particularly interested in the reputed corn maze?

Help?!?


Garjen Soulhammer wrote:

Can anyone tell me whether the maps in this are miniature scale? I'm particularly interested in the reputed corn maze?

Help?!?

No, it's more like a overland map.

Check out the community created stuff, it has a copy without the paths.
Link

It's the "Farmlands map without detail"


This post contains sort-of mini spoilers for one of the main villains' stats. Nothing important, but I just thought I'd include the warning.

I don't know if I should ask this here or in the rules section, but, I noticed that Justice Ironbriar has the Cat's Grace spell. I'm pretty sure clerics don't get the Cat's Grace spell, and it's not one of his domain spells. What should he have instead? Should his natural Dex be bumped up to 20, or should it be left at 18?


Shad0wdrag0n wrote:

This post contains sort-of mini spoilers for one of the main villains' stats. Nothing important, but I just thought I'd include the warning.

I don't know if I should ask this here or in the rules section, but, I noticed that Justice Ironbriar has the Cat's Grace spell. I'm pretty sure clerics don't get the Cat's Grace spell, and it's not one of his domain spells. What should he have instead? Should his natural Dex be bumped up to 20, or should it be left at 18?

If you're converting to PRPG, just leave that DEX at 20.


Turin the Mad wrote:
Shad0wdrag0n wrote:

This post contains sort-of mini spoilers for one of the main villains' stats. Nothing important, but I just thought I'd include the warning.

I don't know if I should ask this here or in the rules section, but, I noticed that Justice Ironbriar has the Cat's Grace spell. I'm pretty sure clerics don't get the Cat's Grace spell, and it's not one of his domain spells. What should he have instead? Should his natural Dex be bumped up to 20, or should it be left at 18?

If you're converting to PRPG, just leave that DEX at 20.

I am converting the campaign to Pathfinder actually, but Cat's Grace isn't available to clerics in 3.5 either, as far as I know. I have no idea why Ironbriar has it in the first place. Maybe a Bull's Strength spell would be a good replacement, considering how low Ironbriar's Str is, or maybe Owl's Wisdom.

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