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Only 1 post for the entire account.......

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Assault
Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Helina the Beast - CG Elf Barbarian

Skilled
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)

Arcane
Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Halfling Summoner (unchained)
YdaliaGanae - TN Elf Witch
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Jack of All Trades
Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard
Noya has some elven heritage, if you looked closely in the render, you might see her ears are somewhat elven

Back at the top.....

Well, seems I'm gonna need to roll to get started before I get some answers.

rand: 4d6 - 4 ⇒ (6, 4, 6, 5) - 4 = 17
rand: 4d6 - 3 ⇒ (3, 4, 3, 3) - 3 = 10
rand: 4d6 - 1 ⇒ (1, 6, 6, 4) - 1 = 16

rand: 4d6 - 1 ⇒ (3, 4, 1, 4) - 1 = 11
rand: 4d6 - 2 ⇒ (5, 5, 3, 2) - 2 = 13
rand: 4d6 - 3 ⇒ (5, 3, 4, 6) - 3 = 15

I'll come up with something....

RHMG Animator wrote:

Oh.....hum......yeah, maybe not.... depending on views.

Don't take that personally. Nina has reasons not to trust or even like people who rely on their charm and appearance to get by in life and manipulate others.

Funny part is, Noya would of preferred being a half-elf with more average looks,

NPC_Female_Recruitable wrote:

I think Nina might think of Noya as a commander of some sort.

Keeping men in line, and knowing how to raise moral...

Trust me, that's not what Nina thinks of Noya.

Oh.....hum......yeah, maybe not.... depending on views.

Noya is not the GM, just a player with a ton of rules knowledge and having observed and taken notes of things in real life.

RHMG Animator wrote:

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Assault
Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Helina the Beast - CG Elf Barbarian

Skilled
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)

Arcane
Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Halfling Summoner (unchained)
YdaliaGanae - TN Elf Witch
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Jack of All Trades
Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard
Noya has some elven heritage, if you looked closely in the render, you might see her ears are somewhat elven

This is very helpful, thanks a lot!

No problem.

Cleaning up some stuff before I post Noya's info into an alias.
Wording matters at times.

edit:
Bonus, the list got tossed to the top of the next page

Wow those are some sweet rolls you got there, elbowtotheFace.
you've pretty much can make anything with those kinds of rolls

Also..
Any race?
No Limits?

Being Classless at the start sounds fine, but I'd want to know if we can hop into complete classes (maybe even doing Gestault with two classes)

Any chance we could opt for point buy (say 15 or 20 PB), if we roll a heart attack victim
(i.e. rolling something below 10 or 15 PB worth of stats)

dotting.

I have a few character ideas that could work in a slow build up.

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Assault
Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Helina the Beast - CG Elf Barbarian

Skilled
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)

Arcane
Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Halfling Summoner (unchained)
YdaliaGanae - TN Elf Witch
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Jack of All Trades
Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard
Noya has some elven heritage, if you looked closely in the render, you might see her ears are somewhat elven

Extra traits only gives 2 traits, and with the base of 2 traits, that is 4 traits.

Oh I see it now, that adopted trait and how it is laid out is the problem

Lay it out like this and it'll stop the error when glancing over the character

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2:Adopted(social) -> Bred for War (Human)
You tower above most other humans and possess a physique of hard, corded muscle.
Benefit You gain a +1 trait bonus on Intimidate checks and a +1 trait bonus on your CMB because of your great size. You must be at least 6 feet tall.
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not quite, No third trait

2 traits - you can take a drawback but you won’t get a 3rd trait <3

and that infamous drawback effects the whole party.

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard

Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Halfling Summoner (unchained)

Helina the Beast - CG Elf Barbarian

Lapyd - ?? ??

Sometimes Roleplaying before you have something generates what is missing.

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If everyone wants to continue, there are some Paizo modules that we could use for continuing, though there are also some 3.5 modules as well...
I have notes about what level each module/adventure starts at

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard

Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Halfling Summoner (unchained)

Edit:
Found Summoner's race added info.

For a level 3 party, it's actually surprisingly balanced thus far. Only weakness is a lack of healing. But a bard can handle that, especially with a wand of cure light wounds.

Funny part is, I was in a game as a bard, with a cleric and another that could heal, and guess what,

Interestingly, Nina, Chakos, and Valdear all have AC19.

Also, just noticed. Chakos, Valdear and Nzuri are all elves. Which is not something which is seen that often.

Here is something else interesting

the only two female characters, their first names are both 4 letters long and both Start with N and end with A

and both kinda fit the meaning of their Names

Nina:
Short form of names that end in nina, such as Antonina or Giannina. It was imported to Western Europe from Russia and Italy in the 19th century. This name also nearly coincides with the Spanish word niña meaning "little girl" (the word is pronounced differently than the name).
As Nina's first post she mentioned she was short....

Anikee mostly doesn't know your character. She tried to be friendly to Nina by buying her a drink. Anikee is a bit of a nerd, and is not very good at reading other people. She's also not capable of understanding that buying someone a free horrific beer doesn't exactly demonstrate a warm feeling of admiration.

Kinda like when your boss asks you to work overtime without pay, but then compensates you by offering to let you pick a reward item from the box of fun. Except the 'box of fun' is just the lost and found, and next thing you know you're picking up a dirty jacket that won't fit and holding out hope for a two month old granola bar in the jacket pocket. In this scenario, Ankiee is the boss, the dirty mug of beer is the jacket, and Nina got the granola bar already.

I do appreciate the list of submissions, by the by, however I have no granola bar to offer beyond the favorite post button. I don't think timezones are necessary.

Ah, .....

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Good idea. I’m in CET (Denmark)

I'm in the EST (GMT -5:00) time zone of North America.

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Nina Vannas - LN Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard

Dalabrac CN and Nzuri CG - Summoner (unchained)

Edit:
fixed an error and added profile links for the summoner.

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"Did it?" The woman asks, as oblivious to any change in the room's atmosphere as she is to the fact that she's catastrophically failed to demonstrate her good faith.

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Getting the feeling from this line, Ms. Anikee dislikes my character.....

Current character submissions (focusing more on the class with the most levels)

Nina Vannas - LG Human (Chelaxian) fighter (armiger)
Chakos Hyluan - CG elf unchained rogue (consigliere)
Valdear - ?? Elf Kensai Bladebound Magus

Noya Olivia Yona Abia - NG Aasimar Bard

Dalabrac and Nzuri - ?? Summoner (unchained)

edit:
should we mention our timezones so we know about when folks can easily post?

hi GM EltonJ, are you still recruiting for this game? if yes, do you have a list of applicants, or any particular roles you're looking more for?

If you make a caster character, you gonna have to use that alternate magic system.

Given the GM really pushing for psionic verson of magic, I'm thinking of going back to my first character, or make a new one that has fast healing and or Regen.

Nonya wrote:

"Ah ....

is it just me or did the feeling on the room just change...."

"Did it?" The woman asks, as oblivious to any change in the room's atmosphere as she is to the fact that she's catastrophically failed to demonstrate her good faith.

You can play any type of character that you want, but I'll let you know that I don't derive joy from the dumb blonde stereotype

I said "leans into", but not "is a".

She could be playing at being a bit at dumb or oblivious (lacking awareness),
Enemies believe the stereotype, because it was presented when it is not actually true.
And when they believe it, they set their own expectations of how she'll act.
This also makes intelligent enemies drop their guard thinking she's not a intelligent threat or aware threat.
To fool your enemies, you have to fool your allies.

The drawback is kinda based on a PragerU video from 10 years ago...

They also have other notes including fears (ones she does not want known mostly) and complexes.

Let's not forget we can RP with each other to see who and how well characters mesh with one another.

GM likely did a mix-up since your post was next to mine mentioning 3.5 and 3PP content....

Edit: responding to your comment about 3.5e/3pp content, it's off the table for now. You don't need to finalize your build now anyway, however. If there's some existing Paizo material that's close to what you want, you can feel free to modify the flavor to better suit your concept

Sadly their are ZERO equivalents or even substitutes for all of them.

The Flaw system was like Drawbacks in PF, but they were for Feats and they hit harder then the value of a feat. The Flaw version of Great fort (which is Merger Fort) is -3 on Fort saves vs the +2 you get from the feat.

Since Noya is a bit scatter brained, I figured the Ditzy flaw would work and give the idea some mechanical bite, it gives a -2 penalty on ALL int checks and Skills.
While taking one of two which are LURE OF DISTRACTION and HEAD TURNER or the gag feat that comes with it's own mechanical paper work that looks like that found in bureaucracy. There was one 3.5 feat from official 3,5 D&D that came close though.
Leaning into the Dumb Blond stereotype some.

I've made a Drawback to add to her, as there are again no equivalents to it.

Never touched the psionic system, and I recall one GM I had who mentioned a number of broken things he did using the psionic system.

Yeah, as a GM and player, I prefer the restraints and resource management aspect of the original system.

So we are only limited to the effects of drain and saving throws for spells.....
So If I made a level 1 Human Sorcerer with a CON of 30 (CON MOD of 10), gave them Great Fort (+2, totaling +12 Fort there) along with Improved Great Fort (able to re-roll fort save) and that is without adding that Fort bonus for casting I noticed,
I could cast spells of level 4 or even higher, Like Polar Ray, if I want to gamble with the drain save, wow that is exploitable and has no restraints.

Working on finishing things up...

Will be wiping up a drawback for them,
It might be strong enough to count as a Flaw in 3.5......

In fact if I had access to two 3.5 flaws and one or two 3PP feats (one of which is a gag feat), I could make a better match in syncing Roleplay with mechanics

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Glad you like them! One design truism I've learned is that if there's something that's generally considered suboptimal (multiclassing) but people do it anyway (they do) it probably means it's very fun

It can be and and make for some interesting characters.

Finishing up the Job Survey and building a render of the character..
I'll use one of my generic NPC aliases to post IC with the survey

Got a Bard 3/Fighter 1 nearing completion.

Sorry, but glancing over it. it is a mess.

Break it down into 3 to 7 easy to read paragraphs.
If you can't then it is more then just simple addition.

Looks at those that had early interest and left (all caster characters).....

I don't think folks like that magic system seeing the clear results and the drop in the usual takers for your games...
Notices the avoidance of classes with spells and or avoiding spells for those that are active...

You can have "Markofbane" be the guinea pig with their wizard character.
Players do not want the extra work this system requires a player to handle.

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If your looking to make this a default system for magic since you bought the 3.X version rights, people will reject this magic system and either use the version found in the original DnD books, or go with another more streamlined method.

We could all easily circumvent any need for any casters.

We buy potions and or all take a template that gives fast healing or Regen, no divine healers needed effectively skipping the need for magic or healing.

So for spells in a game, the saying "Less is More" is the better path.
If you really want me to use it, I will break it, hard.

The advance d20 magic system you want to try is a kin to a regression of fixes and optimizations Paizo made to other areas within the PF system.
If you want a smoother magic system, use that was provided, but tweak it while not opening the darn flood gates to options.
Never open the flood gates of spell options, it'll backfire hard.

Starting to wish I had written down all my D&D/PF1e fixes and patches into a word document. If fixes a number of long standing problems, but leaves as much of the original systems in as they are.

Looks at CC rules, sees options no one thinks of.....

I'll get to building the character.....

reading it,

I can see that it is trying to add flexibility and some realism.
But I can already see flaws, some of which they missed.

Drain and fort saves, well Divine casters get good Fort saves, arcane casters don't,
they only cover that divine casters have access to all spells, while arcane casters have to learn them.
Which is now false due to Oracle and Paladin being CHA casters
Also recall that when Paizo updated monsters from 3.X to PF, they bumped up their CON score which effects fort saves.

More rolls equals a slower game, it causes more ROLLplay then ROLEplay in a few ways though the opposite in one.
This system adds rolls to a caster's turn slowing stuff down and making casters even less appealing then they already are.
Though the "Runaway HP" problem is the worst offender as levels rise compared to this, but it does make it worse.
I've come up with a few ways to fix that HP problem.
If you want drain effects for casting, put that cost with the spell like in BoED's sanctified spells. As the sanctified spells had special costs listed for each one, no extra rolls then what player regularly use.

There is an idea I had before you mentioned this system that is kinda a hybrid between the regular d20 system and this one. (No extra rolls or saves at all) and was tied to a cascading fix of one of the methods for fixing the Runaway HP problem. this is part of the fix that fits
It was simple idea, refer to the regular system, but you could slot any spell into any level of slot (sans a non-zero into zero), provided you had access to that level of spell. So no greater invisibility as a level 4 Sorcerer, when the earliest is level 8 (as the higher level spells can be a real headache if access to then if way earlier then expected)
Putting a higher level spell into a lower slot would not only lower the DC, but cut the caster level effects of the spell down by 3 levels / level difference, putting a lower level spell into a higher slot would raise the DC, and heighten the caster level 2 levels per level of difference allowing caps to be raised as well. If a spell capped at 6d6 damage, putting it into a higher level 1 higher upgrades the caps to 8d6.

RHMG Animator wrote:

Nope, read through my old Copy of Book of Exalted Deeds

Good characters should NOT associate with evil characters like in the Paladin Code.
And if we are in goal alignment, NO evil sh*t at all.
And my character has a Legalistic curse.
Only way to not cause issues is having a Non-evil alignment (or you hide it darn well), or split tables.

Been also thinking about the Vow of Peace
Which will effect everyone.

I have had a good think my Monk has a view of truth so if he catches any of you lying he will just tell the truth. I don't think he will play well if we are being this strict on rules interpretation.

So I think Helina The_Beast as my main PC, would be a much better fit.
She is CG and a good fit for what looks to be the Party.

NOTE: IF picked seeing how I was so rude over Advanced magic
{still do not like it but GMs game GMs rules hahaha}
Also the 9th has past to will stop making any more PCs hahaha

There were a few exemptions for being with the evil characters like; if I had my character redeeming them, but I figured most would not like another character using the rules to force a change on their character after failing a number of rolls.

That and what I wiped up, it would be very hard to lie to them.
and glancing over the Advance d20 magic rules.
Yeah they apply and don't apply to Oracle.
I'm also trying to finish up the character when I get a moment to work on it.
I'd rather just use the regular system instead of needing to learn a new one at this point.

Nicely done, looks like a entry from the "Races of" series of books.

You'll get at most 2 levels during the module

Check for a PM....

there is a 3.5 race named Dragon-Born from the book Races of the Dragon
They are become children of a LG dragon god.....

there is also the Draconic template and the Half-dragon template as well

From the way the GM said it, I would guess that is correct class wise.

Thinking of a Monk/Ninja

Or might do a sorcerer and or bard class combo...

dotting.....
with interest

Well I'm now filling in the divine role, Seth.
So martial is now open.

Just make a new character, one that is non-evil.

Nope, read through my old Copy of Book of Exalted Deeds
Good characters should NOT associate with evil characters like in the Paladin Code.
And if we are in goal alignment, NO evil sh*t at all.
And my character has a Legalistic curse.
Only way to not cause issues is having a Non-evil alignment (or you hide it darn well), or split tables.

Been also thinking about the Vow of Peace
Which will effect everyone.

Oooo never used Zorin OS, Ill have a look.

I'm gaming on Zorin OS daily, thanks to Proton and Proton GE.

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I think we are still gonna have some party issues.

Party having a Cleric of a Chaotic Evil Goddess and a Oracle of a Lawful Good God.
Yeah gonna be problems......
Two that are complete opposites.

Might need split tables to stop potential fights.......

Almost got all the crunch done, as I switched the second class a few times....

@GM_Panic

Never heard of PonyOS, but a quick summary gave me a bit of a laugh.

I'm pretty much am now Using Zorin OS (Core and Pro lines and Zorin is off-shoot of *Ubuntu) as my primary OS (on many machines) with some desktops being able to dual-boot into Windows. I use MX Linux (Xfce version) for the older computers I still use, since the Zorin OS Lite line is being retired.

*Zorin OS is magnitudes better then Ubuntu in my eyes.
Ubuntu was the first one I was introduced to, didn't like it.
Tried Zorin, and I dived right in.

I even have Bazzite on another machine dual booting with Windows.
I am almost free from Windows, as Microsoft has been becoming more and more like a creepy stalker over the past decade.

And I agree the AI-slop needs to stop.
It just produces buggy, bloated and insecure code.
Did you hear the term Micro-Slop that is popping up?

RHMG Animator wrote:

I'm kinda rushing through this new character,

can I get a Link to the real Book?

I'm planning to upload my pdf copy on the Internet archive.

Thanks, that Archive has some hard to find stuff on it from old TV shows/cartoons like;