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Adamantine Golem questions?

Is a PC with Adamantine Armor resistant to the armor breaking effects of "Destructive Strike"? Or is this effect an automatic effect that happens regardless of armor type, hardness etc?

How much gp value of Adamantine does a dead Adamantine Golem yield?

Considering high grade Adamantine armor is 32,000 gp + 3,200 per bulk (38,400 for bulk 2 medium Full Plate for example), I am presuming since it's a huge creature and it's more dense than hollow plate mail, I am guessing at least 10 times that, or around 384,000 gp worth of adamantine?

That would be enough to craft 20 suits of armor which sounds right.

However, the Bestiary says the incredible amount of Adamantine necessary to create a single adamantine golem is worth more than many nations treasuries. Is 384,000 gp worth too low?


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I wish they would errata/clean up the rules on precious materials.

Your really awesome special materials armor or weapon that you have at mid level can't be upgraded without upgrading the materials first.

For example, if you have standard grade materials such as adamantium you can't upgrade it from +2 to +3 without first upgrading the quality of the materials first.

However, +3 weapon potency is level 16 and high grade adamantine weapon is level 17. It seems absurd that you can upgrade a mundane material weapon from +2 to +3 but not a standard grade precious materials one?

Adamantine, Darkwood, Mithril and Orichalcum weapons all have this issue of having the higher grade material requirement be a higher level than the +3 rune itself.

This rule should be changed or the level of the higher grade material reduced to at least be the same as the +3 rune.

Armor has similar issues and should also be fixed.

A high grade adamantium object is level 16, a shield is level 16, a weapon level 17 and armor level 19. Why are they not all the same for the same material? Crafting is already gatekeeped behind the Legendary requirement.

This means you are usually better off switching out your standard grade adamantine weapon or armor back to a mundane one to get +3 then switching it back out to high grade adamantine a level or two later.


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Am I crazy or didn't they used to discount the first $10 on subscription shipping?

Just got my email on shipping for Fists of the Ruby Phoenix Pawn collection and they are charging $15.17 to ship a $21 product.


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Themetricsystem wrote:
Pretty much, yeah, it would be a crafting activity to reverse-engineer the item for the formula and you end up with half of the item value in raw materials at the end.

Do you need a formula to craft an item out of precious materials if its not magic?

Also, I was getting it how much Adamantium could you harvest? Seems odd you would only get 192.50 gold value out of it using the crafting rules, but using the using the precious item rules it's 350 gold value for a standard grade object?


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Our group received as treasure a standard grade Adamantine Battle Axe.

The weapon is not useful for anyone in our group but we have a Master Crafter with Specialty Crafting Blacksmith. Can we melt it down and harvest the Adamantine? If so, how much does it yield? It's bulk 1.

On page 599, the gp value for Adamantine Weapon is 1,400gp + 140 per bulk, so 1540 gp. The craft requirement is 175 gold of Adamantine + 17.5 per bulk implying it required 192.5 gold value of Adamantine to craft it?

However, on page 578 under Adamantine it lists a chunk as 500gp (bulk L) and a standard grade object (as 350gp per bulk).

How much Adamantium should it yield, since the Crafting math and the precious materials rules seem to vary?

Obviously we can just sell it at the usual 50% or 770 gold. We are only considering this because it's Uncommon.


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vagrant-poet wrote:

I'd definitely like to see more interesting magic items, at various levels.

Like 3-4 options for every skill at every increment, so there's a diversity of skill items, etc.

And I'm not sure a LO book would bulk up the whole list so maybe that could be a part of a rulebook line book.

Agree, totally second this idea.


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
Paizo can’t tell it’s partners what to charge for their products. The price reflects both Paizo’s work and the work of VTT partners to bring it to their customers. The Pathfinder Beginner Box remains an incredible value for five people to have many hours of entertainment, both physical and digital.

Maybe there is disconnect somewhere? They literally said on their forums:

"Standard FG pricing, as set by the license agreement with Paizo, is that of the physical product."

I can see where that model works for most books and adventures, but in a boxed product where part of the content is dice and pawns it make the beginner adventure absurdly expensive.


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CrystalSeas wrote:

The digital edition of the Beginner Box includes digital versions of everything in the physical product except the dice and the pawn bases. It has the Game Master's Guide, Hero's Handbook, character sheets, and pregens as well as all of the pawns and maps and it costs $14.99

Does Fantasy Grounds usually price things at the physical product level or the digital product level?

They price it at the cost of the physical product.

If you own the PDF and link your Paizo account you get a discount so it would still be $25. Physical box price minus PDF. This is usually because you get the PDF with purchase so they don't want to duplicate charge you if you already own it.


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Over on the Fantasy Grounds forum, it was mentioned that the beginner box was going to be $40 in Fantasy Grounds due to their contract requiring to charge SRP.

This seems not to translate very well in that the beginner box contains pawns and dice. For people just wanting the starter adventure or starter box rules, that seems to be very expensive. The starter adventure would be one of the most expensive adventures on FG for Pathfinder 2e.

I would think Paizo would want to make the starter adventure and ruleset as cheap as possible to get people to try it? Seems like they might want to subsidize Smiteworks so they can sell it affordably (like $10-$15 or so), or even give it away free?

Just making a suggestion in case anyone at Paizo sees this.


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Are we not going to get a map pack for Age of Ashes and Extinction Curse like the 1st edition adventure paths had?

Due to COVID I have been both playing and GM online in Fantasy Grounds which eliminates the need for a physical map. However, when we return to in-person gaming next year, I would love to have a map pack for Age of Ashes...


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Question the Lost Omens World Guide has an 8th Level Archetype feat for the Hellknight Arminger called Arminger's Mobility.

One of the prerequisites is Expert in Heavy Armor. I for the life of me can't figure out how you get this by 8th level. The only scenario I see is Champion with Armor Expertise at 7th. Hellknights are supposed to be Lawful and could in theory be LG, but a Paladin Hellknight seems to be the only way?

It seems massively out of character for that to be the only way to get it before 11th level when the Fighter class gets Armor Expertise.

I was wondering if the Hellknight Dedication Archetype feat from the Lost Omens World Guide (level 6 feat) was supposed to give this and be the prerequisite but was inadvertently left out? Possible errata?


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HammerJack wrote:
Right. Options to boost your proficiency earlier or higher than your class allows are basically not a thing that exists, or that we should ever expect to exist. At least not outside of the design space if something like the Class Archetypes that do not yet exist, but which could conceivably have big enough adjustments to pay for that kind of thing.

That doesn't seem right though? Hellknights have to be Lawful, so only a Lawful Good Paladin could get the Hellknight feat before level 11?

With the Advanced Player's Guide a LE Champion (Tyrant) could get it but that book came out much much later.


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As a Fighter is there a good way to get Expert in Heavy Armor Proficiency before you get Armor Expertise at 11th level?

To elaborate, I am wondering how on earth you meet the prerequisite of expert in Heavy Armor at 8th level for the Armiger's Mobility Feat in the Lost Omens World Guide?


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Castilliano wrote:


Also, if this is tied to armor, it'd be hard to balance this vs. Bulwark which you'll really need if you've kept Dex low.

It's the 4th level Mortification feat from the Hellknight Arminger Archetype in the Lost Omens World Guide. Not armor dependent.

I think I am going to take piercing, as I get armor specialization at 11th level, so the slash resist wouldn't stack.


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Playing a melee based fighter using polearms. I have a chance to pick up damage reduction via an archetype feat. Just wondering which type would be most beneficial? I was leaning towards slashing or piercing as bludgeoning seem to be used less often. There appear to be more melee slashing type weapons, but of course piecing covers ranged weapons.

Thoughts?


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So I had the accessories subscription and dropped it. Will I still get digital versions for the items I did get when I was subscribed?


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Related question I have noticed some multiclass feats give you trained in that Classes DC.

Example Barbarian Dedication. You become trained in barbarian class DC. Say you were already a class that had a trained DC (such as Fighter) you are going to progress in both equally right? At level 10 your class DC for Both Barbarian and Fighter is 12 right? (Class level + 2 for trained).


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Thanks the "Hellknight Titles" for Arminger on the Character Guide page 79 seemed to imply that an Arminger couldn't wear it because they weren't yet full members. Passing a test makes you a Hellknight and no longer an Arminger regarless of level or feats. Thanks!


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So when can a character legally wear Hellknight Plate? (According to the Hellknights).

It's a level 2 item, but an Arminger can't wear it.

Can they wear when it they pass the test, but before they take the Hellknight Dedication Feat at Level 6, or must they take the test and take the feat?

The Flavor text seems to imply they are eligible as soon as they pass the test. (Feat not required).


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Age of Ashes Player’s Guide Page 7, # 8 Monument Circle. and
Age of Ashes #1 Hellknight Hill page 68 Monument Circle.

The six water towers are supposed to be water towers, not wells. The art is correct (and delightful). The text slipped through the cracks.

All below is for Age of Ashes #1 Hellknight Hill

Most of the descriptions imply the keep is 1 mile away, but page 63 has it as 10 miles.

It's a mile.

Page 19-20 Alak is said to be wearing something other than Hellknight armor, and he is listed with a greatsword. The art depicts him with Hellknight armor and a halberd, and later, in chapter 2, undead ignore him because he supposedly wears Hellknight regalia.

The art depicts him with Hellknight armor and a halberd, not a greatsword, so the art is in error. As for the undead, regalia is more than just armor, and he can instruct the PCs of this.
Alak's stat block is correct.

I'm pretty sure it's referring to the Order of the Nail insignias the party can find in A6.

In area D7 on the Goblinblood Caves map parts a, c, d, and f are mislabeled. The labels are on the benches in the alcoves and not on the gates. Parts b and e are correct.

The write-up for area D2 suggests that Renali will intervene in the fight between the PCs and Ralldar in D3 if they haven't already found her, and says to see that section for more info, but I'm not seeing anything in D3 about Renali?

--Question: On p49, under the description of encounter C2, it mentions that the party can make one Diplomacy or Intimidation check to get the guard to call Dmiri out to speak with the PCs. But I can't find any further guidance about this in the AP. How is this conversation supposed to go?

What are Voz's skeletons supposed to be? The encounter suggests a skeletal champion and a skeleton guard, but the text says "skeletal champions" at one point, so it could be two skeletal champions instead.
I suppose it had once been 2 Skeletal Champions, but later it was revised to a champ+common skeletons.

The Bloody Blades are half-orcs. Voz Lirayne is a half-elf. Are they supposed to have low-light vision?
They absolutely should, come to think of it. So sneaking up at night might not be such a great idea if your PCs can't all see...

So my players reached the risen skeletons in the catacombs last session and i've noticed that the skeletal hellknight doesn't have the usual resistances every skeleton has.
Is this intended? The lack of usual skeleton resistances is an error.

So my question is about the silver longsword they find in Area A9 in chapter 2. Was curious what grade it was since there are 3 different grade with precious metals. I assumed low grade silver since it is a level 2 item as well as the Knights would not leave high quality behind.
It is low-grade. (It was clarified in another thread that they hadn't finalized material grades at the time the adventure was written, since it was timed to release at launch, and it slipped through editing.)

--On p43, it says that once the PCs begin Chapter 4, Alak will take off. But later in Chapter 4 it says some things which suggest Alak may still be traveling with the party (e.g., on p49 it talks about what Alak can tell the party about the Bloody Blades, on p53 it says that Alak will volunteer to take Voz into custody).

If the citadel’s battlements are 25 feet above the courtyard, they can't be 30 feet above ground level, which is already higher than the courtyard. Is the battlements "just a bit" shorter than those represented in art?
Yes. Sometimes art and text don't match up as best we want, especially when art comes in very late and there's no time to change the text.

The good news is that if folks want to include one or two of these magic parchments in their game, found, I suggest, in Voz's research room (Hellknight Hill page 46), I felt like whipping them together on the spot for folks to use right here.
Scamp Scrap; Item 4
Conjuration, Consumable, Magical
Price 18 gp
Usage held in 1 hand; Bulk —
Activate (two-actions) command, Interact
Each scamp scrap contains a magical phrase linked to a specific type of mephit. You read a short magical phrase from this scrap of parchment, and then rip it in half. As you do so, the parchment vanishes in a puff of energy or material associated with the mephit—a scamp scrap that summons a water mephit would melt away into a puddle while one that conjures a fire mephit would burst into flames.
When you activate a scamp scrap, it casts a 2nd level summon elemental to summon forth a mephit that you control as you spend an action each round to Sustain the Activation.


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Alyran wrote:
I don't recall there being any actual errata for the AP. A few obvious typos, maybe.

I don't know? I've see quite a bit from just the first module, although some is more FAQ than errata. See thread below.


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Is there a complied errata for the Adventure Path somewhere? It's a bit tedious to scroll through hundreds of posts. I can do that, but didn't want to reinvent something if it's already posted somewhere?


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Are the pawns (other than the PC) going to be unique, or repeats of the Bestiary ones?


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Tender Tendrils wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:

The answer is simple.

Fireball.

Always fireball.

ALWAYS, FIREBALL.

Salamileg wrote:

Keep in mind that, since it has to fill all of your slots, that excludes any spells higher than 1st level./quote]

No spell slot that can't turn itself into a pyroclastic spheroid is a spell slot of mine!

The only answer other than Grease that I will tolerate.

This! Not practical for every situation but sometimes you just have to burn the world .


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I think the problem is the HLC was a great product and HLO is not there yet. The expectations for HLO were absurdly high because of how good HLC is.

As to quitting a game or switching versions due to lack of character builders see D&D 4th edition. The paywall subscription to access Dungeon & Dragon mags online and the character builder helped doom it. The character builder was really good at the end, but the monthly fees killed it. Our group took a break for a month or so and everyone dropped their subscriptions. There was huge resistance to restarting the monthly fees and our group switched to Shadowrun for awhile away from D&D over lack of a good easy to use character builder alternative.

Shadowrun with HLC was pretty good by the way.


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PossibleCabbage wrote:
My PF2 fighter's THAC0 is too high, or too low. Whichever the bad one is.

Lower is better


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I should have asked? Are there any plans for a map pack?


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James Jacobs wrote:

The Players' Guides have never been entirely spoiler free. Spoiler-light is a better description, and so is "teaser." We mentioned that the PCs get a castle specifically in the player's guide because that sort of knowledge is important for players to know before-hand so that they'll realize that they won't be "wasting" ranks in skills, and so that they can look forward to building characters who fit the themes of the upcoming campaign.

If you don't tell the players anything, they don't know what kind of character to make or what kind of adventure to anticipate. That's not fair to the players.

Appreciate your comments.


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I thought the players guides were spoiler free?

Kinda tells them they get a castle...

"you’ll be returning home to Breachill, where your group is likely to have earned the right to dwell in and rebuild the abandoned castle atop Hellknight Hill"


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Pathfinder Kingmaker Promotional Organized Play Boons Herolab code

So I got these as an award for backing Kingmaker.

They have an alphanumeric "Herolab" code for 2nd edition?

What is that? I presume it's some sort of eventual unlock in HeroLab online?


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Ares71 Lord of War wrote:

I noticed on another site they are releasing a new box of bases.

PATHFINDER RPG 2ND EDITION: BESTIARY PAWN BOX BASE ASSORTMENT (PREORDER)

That's the replacement for this product; it will come in a box instead of a bag and has a few more bases. The paizo.com listing for it should go up soon.

Will it still have a random color medium base?


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I noticed on another site they are releasing a new box of bases.

PATHFINDER RPG 2ND EDITION: BESTIARY PAWN BOX BASE ASSORTMENT (PREORDER)


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Mogloth asked this earlier and not sure I saw a reply? Will there be a PDF of this product?


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Do these include PDF if on subscription?


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Do we get a PDF of these with subscription?


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CrystalSeas wrote:
Ares71 Lord of War wrote:
Spell Cards - 5 decks being release in January along with the GM Screen and Bestiary cards? Is that really 7 products in January?

Just a note: the spell cards are not part of any subscription. If you want to put off getting them, it's trivial to do.

And one maps subscription benefit that you haven't mentioned:
Flipmat Classics are not part of any subscriptions even though new ones are coming out regularly.
If you are a Maps subscriber and you pre-order a flipmat, they have been offering free PDFs when the product ships. No information about whether or not this will continue

Is that confirmed that spellcards are NOT part of a subscription?


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Longtime D&D player (all versions since AD&D1) who decided to jump into Pathfinder 2nd at launch. I actually subscribed one issue early to Adventure Path to get the grandfathered discount.

I am currently subscribed to:

Pathfinder Adventure Path
Pathfinder Lost Omens
Pathfinder Adventure
Pathfinder Pawns - (Just added this for the upcoming Bestiary Pawns)
Pathfinder Rulebook
Pathfinder Society - Free
Pathfinder Accessories

The subscription discount may not be quite as good as Amazon, but getting the free PDFs is a great value, and helps mitigate that. I really don't have a local store, so subscription is also good in that regard to get the newer releases.

Here are my thoughts on each.

Adventure Path - Already familiar with this concept from D&D 3rd (from Dungeon) and Pathfinder 1st edition. Like the concept and glad they will eventually support Age of Ashes with Pawns and hopefully a map pack.

Lost Omens - Disappointing the two books are so small. Lot of player content in the character guide. I feel these could have been one larger book, but maybe the book size on the Core books has spoiled me?

Adventure. I missed there was a map pack for Fall of Plaguestone and had to go track it down at a retailer. Since there are so few releases, I sorta wish the map was included in this subscription.

Pawns. Don't have the new ones yet, but have used in the past. Useful.

Rulebook. Big books, big content. Hope the Gamemaster guide is good. Glad we are getting errata. Would like to see the PDF's updated with the errata before a second printing of the physical books.

Society - Not playing Society, but who doesn't love free adventures?

Accessories - This is perhaps my one actual regret so far? Here are my thoughts.

Combat Pad - Useful

GM Screen - Useful, but you did 2 versions at launch and I didn't get to choose? Now you are replacing it with a third screen in January?

Character Sheets - Worst product in the whole line. Great concept with class specific sheets, but has errors for Fighter and Alchemist. Not printer friendly, not form fillable for PDF. Please fix and update the PDF at least.

Condition Cards - Mildly useful - no PDF of cards

Critical Hit Deck - Haven't really used yet, but seems brutal for PC's - no PDF
Critical Fumble Deck - Haven't really used yet, but seems brutal for PC's - no PDF

Aside from the Combat Pad, I could probably have done without all the accessory content so far.

The upcoming releases raise a concern for me?

Advanced GM Screen - A third screen?
Bestiary Battle Cards - Potentially useful, but no errata and more expensive than the Bestiary itself?

Spell Cards - 5 decks being release in January along with the GM Screen and Bestiary cards? Is that really 7 products in January? Will these contain the errata?


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FYI response to my email in case anyone else wants to late pledge.

Virginia wrote:

Hello Daniel!

Thank you so much for your patience, the four of us in the customer service department have been experiencing a larger than usual influx of messages. I can definitely answer your questions.

1. Correct, these are not going to be part of Paizo subscriptions at all.

2. The items you listed were exclusive to the original campaign, and are not available during the late pledge period.

3. Yes, some of the items will be for sale, as we have opened up pledges to retailers.

4. No, the PDFs are only for the main books. You will see an itemized list once you view the items in your cart.

If you have any further questions or concerns, don’t hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,

Virginia
Customer Service
7120 185th Ave NE Ste 120
Redmond, WA 98052-0577
Phone: (425) 250-0800
Fax: (425) 250-0801
Email: customer.service@paizo.com


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FYI - Response from customer service in case anyone else has late pledge questions.

Hello Daniel!

Thank you so much for your patience, the four of us in the customer service department have been experiencing a larger than usual influx of messages. I can definitely answer your questions.

1. Correct, these are not going to be part of Paizo subscriptions at all.

2. The items you listed were exclusive to the original campaign, and are not available during the late pledge period.

3. Yes, some of the items will be for sale, as we have opened up pledges to retailers.

4. No, the PDFs are only for the main books. You will see an itemized list once you view the items in your cart.

If you have any further questions or concerns, don’t hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,

Virginia
Customer Service
7120 185th Ave NE Ste 120
Redmond, WA 98052-0577
Phone: (425) 250-0800
Fax: (425) 250-0801
Email: customer.service@paizo.com


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Are these going to include Bestiary Errata?


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In business terms they have a "pipeline" of stuff they are releasing months from now. It is being finished, proofed, etc., put on the schedule for printing.

That takes at a minimum months. I wouldn't expect any slowdown as that would have needed to have started months ago to slow anything down.

I would appreciate an official errata soon, but we know it's coming.


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Received my monthly adventure path shipment and there was a postcard advertising the Kingmaker Late Pledge. After visiting the site, I had some questions?

All the items are a separate purchase and are not being released as part of any Paizo subscriptions in the future correct?

If I late pledge do I still get the stretch rewards such as the PDF's of People of the River and Guide to the River Kingdoms, the Pathfinder Society Scenarios and the original 6 AP modules?

I presume all of these items will eventually be available at retail in the future except those marked exclusive? (Specifically the Kingdom Management Screen, Dice Set and Hero Point tokens).

If I pledge the Gold Tier (print and PDF) and then buy add-ons like the flip mats, poster map folio, Kingdom tracker and pawns do I get both print and PDF versions of those? (The bestiary add-ons specifically mentioned print and pdf).

Thanks,


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Received my monthly adventure path shipment and there was a postcard advertising the Kingmaker Late Pledge. After visiting the site, I had some questions?

All the items are a separate purchase and are not being released as part of any Paizo subscriptions in the future correct?

If I late pledge do I still get the stretch rewards such as the PDF's of People of the River and Guide to the River Kingdoms, the Pathfinder Society Scenarios and the original 6 AP modules?

I presume all of these items will eventually be available at retail in the future except those marked exclusive? (Specifically the Kingdom Management Screen, Dice Set and Hero Point tokens).

If I pledge the Gold Tier (print and PDF) and then buy add-ons like the flip mats, poster map folio, Kingdom tracker and pawns do I get both print and PDF versions of those? (The bestiary add-ons specifically mentioned print and pdf).

Thanks,


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I bought some dice at the Paizo booth at Gencon branded as Second Edition Dice. They are NOT marked as Playtest dice so I don't think they are the same set?

Just curious as I never saw them on the Paizo website? Were they a limited release at Gencon or just early stock?


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It's in stock at other resellers like Nobleknight and Gamenerdz.


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I was going to pick this up at Gencon, but this was sold out by Friday.


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Another subscription question.

I am now subscribed to 5 subscriptions. Do I get Pathfinder Society Scenarios free? I don't have to subscribe to that right, it just happens?


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Joana wrote:
Ares71 Lord of War wrote:

The subscriptions page:

https://paizo.com/store/subscriptions

Still says "As a bonus, when you sign up for to Pathfinder Adventure Path or four physical Starfinder subscriptions you'll qualify to gain access to the Paizo Advantage, which grants you a 15% discount on most products available on paizo.com!"

From what was posted above it sounds like PathFinder advantage will now require 4 subs also, and not just the Adventure Path Subscription?

If you already have an AP sub for PF1, you only need the AP subscription; it's grandfathered. Even if you only sub to the last volume of Tyrant's Grasp (#144, which will ship with the first 2e AP volume), it counts as long as you're subscribed by July 3rd.

See here:

blog wrote:

Current Pathfinder Adventure Path subscribers keep their 15% discount. If you ever cancel your subscription, you need to meet the new criteria for the Paizo Advantage to get the discount.

It’s not too late! If you subscribe to the Pathfinder Adventure Path before July 3, and receive Pathfinder AP #144 as part of your subscription, you’ll lock in the 15% Paizo Advantage discount!

Otherwise, yeah, because of the delay in the Lost Omens line, it can't count as one of your subs at release. You'd need 4 of the following 5: Rulebook, AP, Adventure, Accessories, Maps. Or you could start your Lost Omens sub with Druma, which will ship with the first 2e stuff.

Thanks! I changed AP back to 144 so i’d be grandfathered.


Pathfinder Maps, Pawns, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

The subscriptions page:

https://paizo.com/store/subscriptions

Still says "As a bonus, when you sign up for to Pathfinder Adventure Path or four physical Starfinder subscriptions you'll qualify to gain access to the Paizo Advantage, which grants you a 15% discount on most products available on paizo.com!"

From what was posted above it sounds like PathFinder advantage will now require 4 subs also, and not just the Adventure Path Subscription?

I am trying to start with 2E Pathfinder and get the advantage on the rulebooks, but the comment about it not being available until the first one ships makes we wonder on the timing?

"Qualifying subscribers automatically receive their Paizo Advantage discount once their first subscription item ships, and only as long as their subscriptions remain active."


Pathfinder Maps, Pawns, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
David knott 242 wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:


So, as someone who has Paizo Advantage both ways, the answer I am waiting for is which subscriptions I can cancel without losing Paizo Advantage.

And we have our answer.

More complete info here.

I am more confused than ever. It mentions you get Pathfinder advantage if you have the the Adventure Path subscription.

It also says:

To gain the Paizo Advantage, mix and match any combination of 4 qualifying subscriptions. With 6 or more qualifying subscriptions, subscribers will receive both the Pathfinder Society AND the Starfinder Society scenarios!

So do we need the Adventure Path Subscription OR any combination of 4 subscriptions?

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