Advanced Class Guide

Wednesday, August 28, 2013

Just a few weeks ago, we announced the Pathfinder RPG Advanced Class Guide, an exciting new addition to the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game due out next summer. While we talked about it a fair bit at Gencon, this blog post is here to get you caught up on all the news!

This 256-page rulebook will contain 10 new classes, each a mix of two existing classes, taking a bit from each class and adding new mechanics to give you a unique character. Around the office we're calling them "hybrid classes." You can think of the magus (from Ultimate Magic) as our first test of this concept. It takes some rules from the fighter, some rules from the wizard, and then adds its own unique mechanics.

At this point, you're probably wondering what new classes you can expect to see in the Advanced Class Guide. So far, we've announced five of the ten classes.

Bloodrager: This blend of sorcerer and barbarian can call upon the power of his blood whenever he goes into a rage. He also has a limited selection of spells he can call upon, even when in a mindless fury!

Hunter: Taking powers from both the druid and the ranger, the hunter is never without her trusted animal companion, hunting down foes with lethal accuracy.

Shaman: Calling upon the spirits to aid her, the shaman draws upon class features of the oracle and the witch. Each day, she can commune with different spirits to aid her and her allies.

Slayer: Look at all the blood! The slayer blends the rogue and the ranger to create a character that is all about taking down particular targets.

Warpriest: Most religions have martial traditions, and warpriests are often the backbones of such orders. This mix of cleric and fighter can call upon the blessings of the gods to defeat enemies of their faiths.

Of course, those are just half the classes in this book. There are four more we have yet to reveal.

"Four?" you say. "But I thought there were ten!" And you would be right—because I'm about to let you in on another of the classes that will appear in this book, which we haven't announced until this moment!

Swashbuckler: Break out your rapier and your wit! The swashbuckler uses panache and daring to get the job done, blending the powers of the fighter and the gunslinger! For those of you who don't use guns in your campaign, fear not—the base class is not proficient in firearms (although there will certainly be an archetype in the book that fix that).

But that's not all! This book will also contain archetypes for all 10 new classes, as well as a selection to help existing classes play with some of the new features in this book. There will also be feats and spells to support these new classes, as well as magic items that will undoubtedly become favorites for nearly any character. Last but not least, the final chapter in this book will give you a peek inside the design process for classes and archetypes, giving you plenty of tips and guides to build your own! Since class design is more art than science, this won't be a system (like in the Advanced Race Guide), but rather a chapter giving you advice on how the process works.

So, there you go. That's six of the 10 classes that will appear in the Advanced Class Guide and an overview of what else you can expect from this exciting new book. While it's due to release next August, you won't have to wait too long to get your hands on these classes, because we're planning to do a public playtest here this fall! Check back here for more news as the playtest draws close!

Jason Bulmahn
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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

That's really more CN. If you wanted to be CE you'd have posted a link to something mind-bendingly horrid,


We're getting hungry!


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Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!

In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)


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Dr.Chuff wrote:

If the book is published in german, I will give you the translations of the classes.

In the german translation of the older books (corerules etc.)a few strange things are already there.
Like the summoner = Paktmagier and the oracle = Mystiker.

Me and you need to talk. I'd love to know the German names fore classes considering a German/Slavic campaign I'm running.


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Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)

Or you could do the Time Warp.


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Actually, that is how you perceive time passing for others. In order to perceive the time movement for the rest of the world speed up, you have to go faster. So somehow we have to approach the speed of light. Any suggestions?


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Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.

Yeah, that never works.


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Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.

*does a jump to the left*


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Feros wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
Yeah, that never works.

It does if you do it long enough.


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*intercom on*

Oracle of time your wanted at the Paizo office, oracle of time.

*intercom off*

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DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.


Feros wrote:
Actually, that is how you perceive time passing for others. In order to perceive the time movement for the rest of the world speed up, you have to go faster. So somehow we have to approach the speed of light. Any suggestions?

Does that mean the faster I drive home today the less time i will have left to wait after arriving?


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Threeshades wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
*does a jump to the left*

And a step to the right

Sovereign Court

Yah, to understand more of what Feros is talking about, go to see Professor Brian Cox's lecture on the Science of Doctor Who :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO2YovSZEyA

Noobie


Hawktitan wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
*does a jump to the left*
And a step to the right

Put your hands on your hips....


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Ensirio the Longstrider wrote:
Hawktitan wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
*does a jump to the left*
And a step to the right
Put your hands on your hips....

You bring your knees in tight.


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The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

Liberty's Edge

DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

I'm half Lawful Evil on my father's side, I can do that. Where shall I hang her, luv?

Shadow Lodge

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Skaldi the Tallest wrote:
Ensirio the Longstrider wrote:
Hawktitan wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
*does a jump to the left*
And a step to the right
Put your hands on your hips....
You bring your knees in tight.

But it's the pelvic thrust...

Lantern Lodge

That really drives you insane...


Dragonborn3 wrote:
Skaldi the Tallest wrote:
Ensirio the Longstrider wrote:
Hawktitan wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Steven "Troll" O'Neal wrote:
Feros wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
Dammit, time! Pass faster!
In order to make time pass faster, physics states that you must go slower. Faster speed makes time slow down. I'm not sure how one would slow oneself to create a noticeable time effect, but it might be worth investigating. :)
Or you could do the Time Warp.
*does a jump to the left*
And a step to the right
Put your hands on your hips....
You bring your knees in tight.
But it's the pelvic thrust...

That really drives you INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE!!

Shadow Lodge

Khazrandir wrote:
This is exciting! I'm going to high-five strangers today as I walk around,[...]

I do this most days


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In celebration of the release of the Brawler playtest, I brawled my way to work today


It's already november 19th, where is the Playtest? I'm f+@@ing curious!


Villahion wrote:
It's already november 19th, where is the Playtest? I'm f@%!ing curious!

It's only 7:30 AM Paizo time. Give it about four or five more hours.


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Lamontius wrote:

In celebration of the release of the Brawler playtest, I brawled my way to work today

Now that you mention it, i should have probably been a little less excited about the slayer this morning.


The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

I'm half Lawful Evil on my father's side, I can do that. Where shall I hang her, luv?

Arcadia. Thats where we're currently at.. its a long journey, but Dr. Logem killed the Kraken, so its mostly safe now!

I'll make sure to have a dwarven fortress set up for when you arrive! *Muahahaha*


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Lamontius wrote:
In celebration of the release of the Brawler playtest, I brawled my way to work today

I don't know how to Arcanist, Investigate, or Skald at work that won't get me fired

Bloodrage is right out

Liberty's Edge

DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

I'm half Lawful Evil on my father's side, I can do that. Where shall I hang her, luv?

Arcadia. Thats where we're currently at.. its a long journey, but Dr. Logem killed the Kraken, so its mostly safe now!

I'll make sure to have a dwarven fortress set up for when you arrive! *Muahahaha*

Oh I haven't been there in ages. Got wrapped up in this big thing with a dragon and dead children and an angry slaad and a demon lord, you know how it is, luv.

Thank the darkness for teleport at-will.


It's all arcanist for me. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.


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DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

Him?! Oh wait, no, that's just my felt goatee.

{happily:} See? Isn't this better than just anxiously waiting for the playt- ARRRRRGH! Being evil is harder than I thought.


Okay, apparently I have two tabs open on this, that i have been alternatingly refreshing for a while.


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Orthos wrote:
Lamontius wrote:
In celebration of the release of the Brawler playtest, I brawled my way to work today
I don't know how to Arcanist, Investigate, or Skald at work that won't get me fired

I investigated the Paizo blog first thing when I got in

but after looking at it
it looks like this playtest...is testing my patience

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!


The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

I'm half Lawful Evil on my father's side, I can do that. Where shall I hang her, luv?

Arcadia. Thats where we're currently at.. its a long journey, but Dr. Logem killed the Kraken, so its mostly safe now!

I'll make sure to have a dwarven fortress set up for when you arrive! *Muahahaha*

Oh I haven't been there in ages. Got wrapped up in this big thing with a dragon and dead children and an angry slaad and a demon lord, you know how it is, luv.

Thank the darkness for teleport at-will.

...In that case, could you bring some supplies? We're kinda running out, and there seem to be big angry humanoid birds pestering us. Plus, you know, shipwrecked and all that.

And Dwunderbran is stinkin' up the place.

Liberty's Edge

DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
The Cathezar wrote:
DM Crustypeanut wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

It's live!

** spoiler omitted **

....Someone get the chains. We'll redeem this sucker back to the side of Good! With pain!

:P

You called for chains, luv?

I don't do Good though.

Eh nor do I, really. Lets bring him to the side of Law, then! Lawful Evil!

You get the chains, Dr. Logem will bring the rest.

I'm half Lawful Evil on my father's side, I can do that. Where shall I hang her, luv?

Arcadia. Thats where we're currently at.. its a long journey, but Dr. Logem killed the Kraken, so its mostly safe now!

I'll make sure to have a dwarven fortress set up for when you arrive! *Muahahaha*

Oh I haven't been there in ages. Got wrapped up in this big thing with a dragon and dead children and an angry slaad and a demon lord, you know how it is, luv.

Thank the darkness for teleport at-will.

...In that case, could you bring some supplies? We're kinda running out, and there seem to be big angry humanoid birds pestering us. Plus, you know, shipwrecked and all that.

And Dwunderbran is stinkin' up the place.

Nothing comes free, luv.


Feros wrote:
Cory Stafford 29 wrote:
Does anyone have any idea how quick this will get on herolab?
Books aren't entered into Hero Lab until after they are published, so this info won't enter until August of next year. That's how Mythic went.

Actually, the Magus playtest did make it to HeroLab.

I wouldn't expect anything prior to 2pm Pacific, 5pm Easter, 10pm GMT, 11pm CET.


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Threeshades wrote:
Feros wrote:
Actually, that is how you perceive time passing for others. In order to perceive the time movement for the rest of the world speed up, you have to go faster. So somehow we have to approach the speed of light. Any suggestions?
Does that mean the faster I drive home today the less time i will have left to wait after arriving?

Technically yes, but any perceived time fluctuation is incidental and unrelated. :)


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Majuba wrote:
I wouldn't expect anything prior to 2pm Pacific, 5pm Easter, 10pm GMT, 11pm CET.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I can't wait til Spring 2014!!!!!!!!!


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Majuba wrote:
Feros wrote:
Cory Stafford 29 wrote:
Does anyone have any idea how quick this will get on herolab?
Books aren't entered into Hero Lab until after they are published, so this info won't enter until August of next year. That's how Mythic went.

Actually, the Magus playtest did make it to HeroLab.

I wouldn't expect anything prior to 2pm Pacific, 5pm Easter, 10pm GMT, 11pm CET.

True, but that was one class. A full ten especially as Lone Wolf are getting Realm Works up and running is unlikely.


I just hope there isn't anything as weirdly hidden as magusflurry (the combination of spell combat and spellstrike)


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Bloodrager is the one I really want to test. I already have a barbarian/sorcerer/dragon disciple, and I wanna know how she would be as a bloodrager.

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My body is ready.


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Dr.Chuff wrote:


Thanks for the compliment ;)
I refresh it every time I walk past of the pc.
Btw. I'm curious how the classes are translated to german.
Like the warpriest = Kriegspriester
But you certainly less interested.

Kriegspriester is actually a really hot name.

What is the Fighter and the Barbarian called in German?

The Sweden – Portugal soccer game starts in about 4 hours. Hopefully the playtest document is out when the game ends. I’m almost considering not drinking any beer just so I can be dead sober when I get the playtest.

........ well two beers is probably not going to be a problem ;P


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Why am I all of a sudden thinking of Eric Cartman impatiently pacing back and forth while waiting for the new Wii to come out?

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David knott 242 wrote:

Why am I all of a sudden thinking of Eric Cartman impatiently pacing back and forth while waiting for the new Wii to come out?

Who's gonna go freeze themselves?


David knott 242 wrote:

Why am I all of a sudden thinking of Eric Cartman impatiently pacing back and forth while waiting for the new Wii to come out?

YES! FREEZE YOURSELF PEOPLE...

5000 years later... Nobody plays PnP anymore, everybody's on virtual reality now.


Zark wrote:
Dr.Chuff wrote:


Thanks for the compliment ;)
I refresh it every time I walk past of the pc.
Btw. I'm curious how the classes are translated to german.
Like the warpriest = Kriegspriester
But you certainly less interested.

Kriegspriester is actually a really hot name.

What is the Fighter and the Barbarian called in German?

Kämpfer and Barbar in that order. Their names are translated straight.

Grand Lodge

Hoi Zark

"What is the Fighter and the Barbarian called in German? "

The Barbarian is the "Barbar" and the Fighter is the "Kämpfer".
Pronounce it hard, than is it reight ;)


williamoak wrote:
David knott 242 wrote:

Why am I all of a sudden thinking of Eric Cartman impatiently pacing back and forth while waiting for the new Wii to come out?

YES! FREEZE YOURSELF PEOPLE...

5000 years later... Nobody plays PnP anymore, everybody's on virtual reality now.

I'd be fine with it, as long as it has bloodragers, slayers and hunters. But knowing my luck they would be released for VR three days from the day i will have been unfrozen.

Dark Archive

Put the barding on my dog Amie and went and hunted everyone between here and my workplace. Probably gonna get some phone calls :/

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