Rumor has it the Octopus teaches the spell in the last two panels.
Wait -- what??
;)
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
I have to say it looks good. Still a little bum out on the whole no PrC thing...but I still can't wait for this book....
My point stands that if Seltyel is now a Magus, there is no Iconic Eldritch Knight anymore.Meh I'll fill the role ;D
Yes! OK, I second Abe as the Iconic Eldritch Knight!!! :-)
Though I guess the Magus10/ElK10 Seltyiel could technically pull it off like you said...
There still is. it's Seltyiel's just an evil twin from a parallel universe. :)
Well, now, we could continue the Order of the Stick references, now, couldn't we?? ;-)
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
Prep Rituals sound really cool I like the idea of special spell books
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Whoever decided to assign +3 Diplomacy to a pig is a pure genius."You there! Guard!"
"Yes, sergeant?"
"Are you the nincompoop responsible for letting that confounded wizard in to disturb Her Grace?"
"Well, um, yes, sergeant, 'cept it don't sound so good when you put it that way."
"I shouldn't think so! What were you thinking? You know Her Grace had left strict orders not to be disturbed."
"Well, sergeant, see, he had his pig with 'im."
"His what!"
"His pig, sergeant. I wasn't going to let him in, just as you say, on account of the Duchess wantin' to be left alone. But he gave me this story, 'bout her really wantin' to know what he'd found out. And I wasn't gonna let him, but he had a pig."
"I see. Of course. Well, don't let it happen again, guardsman."
"No, sergeant!"It's well known that having a pig around with you makes you more persuasive, charasmatic, and suave. You can buy your sweetie any amount of choclates or jeweled baubles, but that can't hold a candle to the seductive power of a man with a pig.
I feel that if pigs were tied in any way to diplomacy, there would be a lot less bacon in the world.
A donkey rat is basically a capybara, right?
You can use donkey rat statistics for capybaras, but they're not the same creature. Frex, donkey rats have little tails, capybaras don't.
Eldritch Knight now only exists for `historical` PRPG games portraying events before Seltyiel saw the light and became a Magus.Disagree -- I still like having 9th level spells and good BAB.Yeah, yeah...
My point stands that if Seltyel is now a Magus, there is no Iconic Eldritch Knight anymore.
I'm still of the opinion that Seltyiel's a Magus 10/EK ?; the whole thing about 1/2 half Magus levels counting as Fighter levels is a bit too convenient, especially since it stacks with the EK's Fighter levels.
I mean, come on. Improved Critical + Critical hit + Critical Mastery + Spellstrike + Spell Critical = EPIC.
(But poor poor Dargenti! Retconned into oblivion...)
I feel that if pigs were tied in any way to diplomacy, there would be a lot less bacon in the world.
You just wait until someone threatens the world's supply of bacon -- then see where you stand.
They sacrifice a few so that the greater number maybe protected by the poor ignorant masses that are addicted to their sweet sweet bacony goodness.
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I think this face is worth a +6 to Diplomacy.
Although, being a Muppets fan, I'd be just as inclined to have a pig familiar give one a bonus to Intimdate and / or unarmed combat. :)
I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.
I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.
Hen Wen?
I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.Hen Wen?
Totally. Been years since I read that, so I'm fuzzy on most of the details and am sure I have the plot confused in my head. I remember the beginning though!
Totally. Been years since I read that, so I'm fuzzy on most of the details and am sure I have the plot confused in my head. I remember the beginning though!I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.Hen Wen?
Works for me!
I reread the whole thing once a year. ;D
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I have a feeling there will be a massive upsurge in Donkey Rat population once the book hits the shelves...That was my first thought also. Woo-Hoo more initiative!Yeah, and the Greensting Scorpion quota as well.
But a Wizard with a King Crab familiar... Now that's going to be hard mode on.
great... wizards with crabs... as if the cleric doesn't have enough to do with that moronic fighter!
I can't wait to get some pre-made spellbooks. Giving them special abilities is a great idea as well.
It does seem like you frontloaded these previews a bit, though. The first one was the most massive one so far. Oh well, the book is nearly here!
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"You there! Guard!"
"Yes, sergeant?"
"Are you the nincompoop responsible for letting that confounded wizard in to disturb Her Grace?"
"Well, um, yes, sergeant, 'cept it don't sound so good when you put it that way."
"I shouldn't think so! What were you thinking? You know Her Grace had left strict orders not to be disturbed."
"Well, sergeant, see, he had his pig with 'im."
"His what!"
"His pig, sergeant. I wasn't going to let him in, just as you say, on account of the Duchess wantin' to be left alone. But he gave me this story, 'bout her really wantin' to know what he'd found out. And I wasn't gonna let him, but he had a pig."
"I see. Of course. Well, don't let it happen again, guardsman."
"No, sergeant!"It's well known that having a pig around with you makes you more persuasive, charasmatic, and suave. You can buy your sweetie any amount of choclates or jeweled baubles, but that can't hold a candle to the seductive power of a man with a pig.
Pink gold.
Look at that, and tell me that wouldn't give a Diplomacy boost.
Yeah, I know you can't. It's okay.
I can't wait to get some pre-made spellbooks. Giving them special abilities is a great idea as well.
It does seem like you frontloaded these previews a bit, though. The first one was the most massive one so far. Oh well, the book is nearly here!
I'm kind of the opinion that if they can share this much before the book is out it must have a metric ton of awesome that we aren't seeing too.
I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.Hen Wen?
Nice catch, Sean! I recognize it now that you said it, but didn't connect it myself.
To everyone: lots of win in this thread; I've been giggling to myself for 10 minutes now. Especially Chris Mortika- wow!
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Yeah, yeah...
My point stands that if Seltyel is now a Magus, there is no Iconic Eldritch Knight anymore.
From p. 54 of the "Ask James Jacobs Anything" thread:
So Seltyiel has a new job now?
Why'd he quit the old one?
He didn't.
A magus can still take and benefit from levels of eldritch knight.
Seltyiel just has a FIRST job now, is all.
So Seltiyel is now officially a Magus/Eldritch Knight. Go him, I guess.
preparation rituals, which are special effects a caster gains access to when he prepares spells from that spellbook
Interesting that it´s now giving a bonus to those who memorize portions of their spellslot allotment in multiple dosages thru-out the day...
I´m also confused about this part:
Opposition Schools Enchantment, transmutation
Since when do spell BOOKS have opposition schools? How do opposition schools affect a spell book?
Totally. Been years since I read that, so I'm fuzzy on most of the details and am sure I have the plot confused in my head. I remember the beginning though!I'd have thought pig familiars would give some sort of Divination bonus.Hen Wen?Works for me!
I reread the whole thing once a year. ;D
You too? I loved that series as a kid! Still do. So many great characters -- Fflewdur, Doli, Gurgi...
Getting back to pig familiars, they sound like a good choice for dropping an Animal Growth spell on too. Turn your cute little piggy-wiggy into giant tusk-bearing engine o' death.
Opposition Schools Enchantment, transmutationSince when do spell BOOKS have opposition schools? How do opposition schools affect a spell book?
My first thought is that the ability to use a preparation ritual with one of these spellbooks puts a limit on what sorts of spells can be added to the spellbook in the future.
A donkey rat is basically a capybara, right?You can use donkey rat statistics for capybaras, but they're not the same creature. Frex, donkey rats have little tails, capybaras don't.
A few weeks ago when the fox and hedgehog were spoiled, my guess for the +2 fort familiar would have been skunk... But donkey rat, eh? Who knew! Still, a skunk as a familiar with some type of musk attack would have been cool...
Since when do spell BOOKS have opposition schools? How do opposition schools affect a spell book?My first thought is that the ability to use a preparation ritual with one of these spellbooks puts a limit on what sorts of spells can be added to the spellbook in the future.
Hm... That could be it...
I think I mentioned before how I thought it would make sense to require prepping a FAVORED school spell in each spell level (strangely, the preview doesn´t mention any Favored School of the book itself) to gain such a benefit like the Preparation Ritual, but something like that could work too...
preparation rituals, which are special effects a caster gains access to when he prepares spells from that spellbookInteresting that it´s now giving a bonus to those who memorize portions of their spellslot allotment in multiple dosages thru-out the day...
I´m also confused about this part:
Opposition Schools Enchantment, transmutationSince when do spell BOOKS have opposition schools? How do opposition schools affect a spell book?
Think about the *author* of the original spellbook in question.
Basically, it's a short-hand way to say "my villain NPC is a necromancer with ench and trans as his opposition schools, so I can just nab this book and select his spells from that." Or, "I'm making a 10th-level necromancer PC with ench and trans opp schools, and to speed things along the GM gave me this as my spellbook so I wouldn't have to spend an hour selecting what 30-odd spells I know."
The oppositional schools listed for the book don't have any new rules associated with them, it's just a nice way to be able to eyeball a book and say, "odds are, my enchanter's not going to find much useful in this wizard's book."
Sean, What book(s) does 'Hen Wen' reference?
The Chronicles of Prydain.
Sean, What book(s) does 'Hen Wen' reference?
Chronicles of Prydain series by Lloyd Alexander: link