Right now we have no reason to be annoying these folks (although Orhmizd might use his detect evil ability). I kind of suspect the same thing that was going on in Kelmarane - evil genie acting behind the scenes, this time as the Carrion King's advisor, 'Rokova'. But we have no proof of that yet. I suggest we head outside and figure out where we are relative to the main complex, and then return to the slaves. I don't see these guys going anywhere, so if we see some evidence of their being involved, we can come back.
You could stay another hour or two in their nicely heated environment. Adventurer roast au jus medium.
Before Ohrmizd asks: Chaotic Evil.
Heshan is a bit more adventure happy with seeing new places, but I'm in agreement with Omari OOC. We can't really afford to antagonize two evil groups right now. We need to get back on track and take on the Carrion King.
Could these perhaps be made into allies against the gnolls?
Long answer or short answer?
Short answer is NO.
Well, I do see some room for cooperation apparently :D
You got Plane Shift or something?
The long answer is: You can, if you manage to offer them the equivalent of a 5th level cleric spell. Or 7th level sorcerer spell. You won't get high enough level, to cast that stuff yourself. And the adventure doesn't offer other options where you could manage the same effect by doing a side quest.
But if you find something in the depth of Player Companions or the like, that allows you to do so...
Or you come up with something else they want to have?
Now that we are back on the way to the gnoll complex - kicking down the barricade to the large room?
Well, I have hoped we would find a different route to the Carrion King, but it seems we are getting narrow on other options.
If Omari still wants to try that, and no one else opposes, I am fine with that GM.
@Omari
It's cave o clock. Hard to say without seeing the sun and not having a watch.
As the slaves are still alive they will stay fresh without casting gentle repose on them? ;) Or what are you worrying about?
Ok, that wasn't a "I think we need to rest" - I've burned all of 1 spell so far. I am guessing it's like 1500 ish, and I'd like to get the former slaves out of our hair, especially if we're running away from a large force of gnolls...
Let's take the former slaves upstairs, and try to sneak them over to the others (area A). If it's early (1500 ish like I think), we can head back down and continue the assault.
Which slaves are you taking up? The ones from H17, H9 or both?
I would think all which are willing to come from those groups? :D
You got Plane Shift or something?
The long answer is: You can, if you manage to offer them the equivalent of a 5th level cleric spell. Or 7th level sorcerer spell. You won't get high enough level, to cast that stuff yourself. And the adventure doesn't offer other options where you could manage the same effect by doing a side quest.
But if you find something in the depth of Player Companions or the like, that allows you to do so...
Or you come up with something else they want to have?
You have challenged by Paizo-Fu. Prepare to be Homeward Bound
Ok, that wasn't a "I think we need to rest" - I've burned all of 1 spell so far. I am guessing it's like 1500 ish, and I'd like to get the former slaves out of our hair, especially if we're running away from a large force of gnolls...
Let's take the former slaves upstairs, and try to sneak them over to the others (area A). If it's early (1500 ish like I think), we can head back down and continue the assault.
I agree with Omari. If you drag it out, the same will happen as with the gnolls in Kelmarane. If you don't bring the fight to them in time, they will bring it to you.
You have challenged by Paizo-Fu. Prepare to be Homeward BoundYou got Plane Shift or something?
The long answer is: You can, if you manage to offer them the equivalent of a 5th level cleric spell. Or 7th level sorcerer spell. You won't get high enough level, to cast that stuff yourself. And the adventure doesn't offer other options where you could manage the same effect by doing a side quest.
But if you find something in the depth of Player Companions or the like, that allows you to do so...
Or you come up with something else they want to have?
I'm impressed. That improves your bargaining position significantly.
Guys, as a quick recap - have we exhausted all our other options of gaining ingress to the complex, except for the main door?
You can go through the main door.
You can go through another minarett, but then Khedron can't come.
Or you dig some more in other places to find an additional entrance maybe.
Another suggestion for a surprise attack:
Scrap the sneaky approach and have Khedron take down the barricade by running through it!
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There was the rope from the place where we found the fugitives, butthat means leaving Khedron behind.
We can go through the main entrance or through the barricade which will both likely end up in the same room (H1)
And we can wait for the fire to die down, but foxy said there is not much to be found there.
Not sure how much Khedron weighs, but if under 300 pounds I could perhaps carry him, and levitate if needed :D
Though I doubt a megaloceros weighs less than that - and there is also the small detail of convincing him to stay still.
An alternative would be also to cast Feather Fall on him (tomorrow), and allow him to gently float down - if he can be convinced to do such a thing.
Trailing down the stairwell hangs a worn, knotted rope neatly tied around a nearby chunk of broken column. The stairwell leads to subterranean chambers that connect to the Warrens, a series of rough-hewn passages that provide covert access to the Great Dome.
I assume you refer to this. As you can see there is something missing at the end of the text - a reference to where you'd come out. So let us skip that, because you'd end up in the same situation as now again.
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No need to be sorry. If I don't give enough specifics I have to deal with you making assumptions.
Foxy, I realized Roryx is flanking with Ohrmizd. I just edited the post, in case that +2 to hit accounts for a real difference there.
What do you think is the best way to go down the stairs?
@Omari
How comes, that Khedron gets a critical threat on 19?
@Foxy Tusk Blades
also, has all the poison evaporated from the arrows after I pointed out it's the most valuable part of the loot?
I am a bit confused about the situation and how to proceed.
Although I do understand what Omari is trying to accomplish here and the tactic is probably a winner against a mindless creature, the system mechanics do not fit very well, which makes this difficult to adjudicate for the GM, specially about how to work the initiative. The rules are thought for a frontal combat and guerrilla tactics are difficult to fit.
Initiative is easy. You stay in combat mode.
That's a way to do it. It also means the scorpion is defenseless, unless you rule a mindless creature is able to learn and run with us to the proper door and smart enough to ready an action for when the door is open and before someone else closes it again.
I cannot say for giant scorpions, but judging by the worms at my garden, nothing here seems like a combat to me '^_^
You're running food to the scorpion. I don't see the challenge here.
If you want to feel challenged by mindless vermin, I've heard Australia is the place to go.
I'm guessing he's a special gnoll. He also had a valueable magic item (the elemental gem)...
No. I just get more familiar with all the perks of the gnolls and found that I treated some of you too nicely in that regard. You can expect that treatment from all the gnolls that join the fight. All but Manuun.
Hmmmmm, Favored Enemy=Humans? :D
Still +4 to bow damage is no joke.
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No. I just get more familiar with all the perks of the gnolls and found that I treated some of you too nicely in that regard. You can expect that treatment from all the gnolls that join the fight. All but Manuun.
I don't think Manuun is a Gnoll. And also why would he not gain the 1d8+6 if he were a gnoll?
All of the party but Manuun get the new 1d8+6 treatment from the gnolls.
My guess is they have some bonus against humans. Because half-orcs are treated as humans too, Roryx is affected, but Manuun is an outsider and so the bonus does not affect him. I think.
All I know is their to-hit numbers are at least as good as ours :P
Hmmmmm, Favored Enemy=Humans? :D
It's funny how the discussion goes on even though an obvious and plausible reason is stated already.
:D
Omari moves to make a tight cluster of adventurers, leading Khedron with him, saying "Anyone who's hurt gather in!". After pausing a couple of heartbeats to let the injured gather, he continues, "Be wary of reviving gnolls guys" and then he calls upon the blessings of Erastil: "Aid us, Staglord!"
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That's mean! Now I have to recalculate how dead those gnolls were. :P
That's mean! Now I have to recalculate how dead those gnolls were. :POmari moves to make a tight cluster of adventurers, leading Khedron with him, saying "Anyone who's hurt gather in!". After pausing a couple of heartbeats to let the injured gather, he continues, "Be wary of reviving gnolls guys" and then he calls upon the blessings of Erastil: "Aid us, Staglord!"
[Dice=Channel Healing]3d6
Or you could just handwave it...
Just joking. ;)
I have managed to catch myself some kidney stones, so posting will bot be a priority until the worst is over. Feel free to bot me if needed.
Ouch, take care Manuun! Hope they can break them.
Been there, done that, and it sucks... Hoping for a fast recovery Manuun. All the best!
That sucks! Get well soon!
@Omari.
Yes. Fixed.