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I snagged that everburning torch so I'll let others have first dibs on the other treasures. Jeorik has his new bow and a nice bit of armor so he's good at the moment. I might have him pick up a few mundane items like tanglefoot bags and greek fire but I'm not in a rush to do that with him.

therealthom |

CrimsonDM wrote:...given its provenance, I think her very unlikely to sell the dagger for filthy lucre.I'm the type of player who's far more likely to hang onto an item for the roleplay value than the rollplay elements, anyway. So, if it's got a history among the Pharasmen...and its the favored weapon of Pharasma...Istas will carry it until someone pries it from her cold, dead hands...and maybe even after that. :-)
CrimsonDM wrote:You talked about replacing some scrolls. ...How about if we just exchange them for some kind of monetary value. Then, maybe Istas could invest in better armor (i.e., something better than studded leather) and possibly a masterwork club, spear, or mace? I'm kind of loathe to replace her grandfather's Shoanti-made spear. But maybe if Istas could acquire a masterwork spear from Kaddok, it might make sense to send her grandfather's spear back to the Cinderlands with Thousand Bones when he returns Gaekhen's remains?
Thoughts?
--Neil
That's what I figured. And Urgathoa can arrange the cold dead hands, and the after that, if you wish. Seriously, I thought you might feel the same way about dad's spear. One option would be to just rule the spear as masterwork. (Perhaps the +1 wasn't working because you're still getting used to it. ) Then you wouldn't have to part with it. Or as per Wellard's suggestion, other mundane equipment upgrade.
CrimsonDM wrote:You talked about replacing some scrolls. ...How about if we just exchange them for some kind of monetary value. Then, maybe Istas could invest in better armor (i.e., something better than studded leather) and possibly a masterwork club, spear, or mace? I'm kind of loathe to replace her grandfather's Shoanti-made spear. But maybe if Istas could acquire a masterwork spear from Kaddok, it might make sense to send her grandfather's spear back to the Cinderlands with Thousand Bones when he returns Gaekhen's remains?
Thoughts?
--Neil
I remain flexible.

therealthom |

So what are we doing with all of the stuff Wellard tallied? All in all, we have:
Wand of Acid Splash (26 charges)
3 vials of acid
2 tanglefootbags
1 thunderstone
Garnet amulet worth 100gp
Masterwork Dagger
Masterwork Hand crossbowAny possibility we (read: Keliwyn) kept a few things back from the guard out of Lamm's stash? I'm thinking of the:
tiny glass tube containing a dose of oil of keen edge,
an obsidian wand of magic missile (23 charges),
a crystalline vial (itself worth 50 gp) containing a dose of silversheenscroll of command undead
scroll of Identify
wand of ghoul touch (42 charges)
ring of protection +1
Robe of Bones
I may have written this before, but can't find it if I did. (And can't remember what happened to the post I stupidly didn't copy before Paizo crashed on me this morning.)
Anyway, the Robe of Bones is all played out.
Jeorik (I think) grabbed the alchemical stuff from Yargin. And you turned all the other pricey loot from Lamm in to the Guard. That's partly why my queen was more than generous than the AP as written. Didn't want to punish you for being stand-up guys. If you hadn't gotten a written receipt I might be tempted to let Keliwyn filch a couple small items. Maybe no one will claim it and in a minor miracle the burearocracy will actually return it to you.

therealthom |

Heather will be somewhat concerned about Philomena's infatuation with Inigo...she wouldn't want the girl to lose her soul to Asmodeus just because of falling for the wrong man.
Excellent! Be concerned. Heaven knows her cousin is too busy checking out his new toys to notice this alarming development .... :P
Wicht, its an everburning lantern.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

...Urgathoa can arrange the cold dead hands, and the after that, if you wish.
Over my dead body!
Oh. Wait. That didn't come out right.
;-P
Seriously, I thought you might feel the same way about dad's spear. One option would be to just rule the spear as masterwork. (Perhaps the +1 wasn't working because you're still getting used to it. ) Then you wouldn't have to part with it.
I like the idea of keeping the spear and having it be a masterwork item that Istas has just now gotten the hang of...
And that kinda makes sense anyway. When Istas left her people, she was quite young and hadn't really learned the ways of a warrior until she probably met Kaddok in Korvosa. And, who knows? Maybe Stannus played a part in making sure the priestess became more warrior-like?
A masterwork shortspear would normally run 301 gp. You had indicated earlier Istas could take a couple of 2nd level spell scrolls...which are generally worth 150 gp each. So that should just about even out.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

Hey, if it can become the "spear that pierces the veil of death and undeath" I'd be happy with something like that. Istas and the Skoan-Quah take undead very seriously...as in, they seriously want to destroy every last one of them! And if the spear could somehow include an effect that shields or protects against death, that would be even better.
For now, masterwork is enough though. It lays the foundation for eventually working other magical effects into it down the road.

therealthom |

For Thom, is very important you read this. Thom only me repeat.** spoiler omitted **
Stilgar, old friend:
I really like Inigo. He's a great character, but a little at odds with the rest of the party. Even with the neutral alignment, worshipping Az kind of casts a shadow, especially since Jeorik is almost a Paladin. Switching to Abadar as you suggested earlier might have eased the tension in the party, but would have been at odds with Inigo's rather uncompromising character. That's the reason I described his new tample-based patrol as incompetent. I thought maybe a competent-looking party would look attractive to him even if they are infidels.
Your choice. Keep Inigo and run the Barvasi mission through him or Stilgar can join at 2nd level with 700 gp in gear and Keliwyn, Darthen or Dorman can suggest he join the Barvasi mission.
I'll be posting infrequently til Monday. Please let me know. ASAP so I can begin laying the groundwork

CrimsonDM |

Neil, do you remember what we ended up using for Istas' point buy?
Radavel, Look back to the top of the thread for point buy v. roll although I'm willing to accept Stilgar's abilities as currently listed too. I think the point buy ended up being way low. Start the big guy with 650 gp in gear. I'll bring him in via Darthen and Keliwyn; they know him from using him as muscle on some jobs.
Just give me a day or two to set the scene for his entry in the IC thread.

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Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

Neil, do you remember what we ended up using for Istas' point buy?
If memory serves, you kicked everyone up to a 40-point buy to catch us up to Inigo.
Am I correct in assuming Radavel wants to play a different PC now? If so, I'd like to say I'm a bit disappointed. I was looking forward to further interaction with the Asmodean. Also, if Stilgar is to be the replacement PC, there's going to be a fair amount of tension between him and Istas given her background and hatred of orcs. The priestess would probably find Inigo more acceptable as a comrade than a half-orc.
But that's just my two-cents,
--Neil

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The priestess would probably find Inigo more acceptable as a comrade than a half-orc.
Heh. Can't please everyone. Jeorik would be more accepting of a half-orc.
As for the dinner, I was thinking a private party at Dorman's, but as its not really for family, perhaps Jeorik should look into renting a room somewhere for the meal. He's willing to spend up to twenty gold pieces for the whole affair, including food and room. That should be enough for somewhere nice. edit: just saw the other post, so eating in is fine too. :)

therealthom |

NSpicer wrote:The priestess would probably find Inigo more acceptable as a comrade than a half-orc.Heh. Can't please everyone. Jeorik would be more accepting of a half-orc.
As for the dinner, I was thinking a private party at Dorman's, but as its not really for family, perhaps Jeorik should look into renting a room somewhere for the meal. He's willing to spend up to twenty gold pieces for the whole affair, including food and room. That should be enough for somewhere nice. edit: just saw the other post, so eating in is fine too. :)
You can rent a room. Your choice. Dorman is open-handed with family.

therealthom |

CrimsonDM wrote:Neil, do you remember what we ended up using for Istas' point buy?If memory serves, you kicked everyone up to a 40-point buy to catch us up to Inigo.
Am I correct in assuming Radavel wants to play a different PC now? If so, I'd like to say I'm a bit disappointed. I was looking forward to further interaction with the Asmodean. Also, if Stilgar is to be the replacement PC, there's going to be a fair amount of tension between him and Istas given her background and hatred of orcs. The priestess would probably find Inigo more acceptable as a comrade than a half-orc.
But that's just my two-cents,
--Neil
Yes, Radavel wants to switch. I thought the Shoanti/half-orc divide might make itself felt between Istas and Stilgar.
I don't think I went all the way to 40 across the board. But, I'm ever fuzzy on rules. I'll try to total some points up and get a feel for average party score.
Got to get some sleep, first. Sorry my posts have been less than descriptive. Still trying to catch up on things.
It's funny. Got a couple of homebrew Golarion ideas floating in the back of my head, but Iknow there just isn't time to do that too.

therealthom |

Made a nifty pathfinder ability v. point cost calculator in excel. (figured out how to use conditional statements, a new thing for me. happy, happy, joy, joy. happy, happy, joy, joy.
Willing to share if you want one too.
Anyway. The party's point cost after Inigo's departure is 31-44 points. ( Yow!) Stilgar currently sits at 24.
Radavel, rebuild Stilgar to 30+d12 pathfinder point buy. What are you gonna do about a deity? Cayden will be a tough one since Stilgar took the pledge? Gorum -- well -- he isn't as good for the good-leaning half-orc as Kord was. Looking forward to see how you work that out.
Edit: I must still be short on sleep.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

...What are you gonna do about a deity?...Gorum -- well -- he isn't as good for the good-leaning half-orc as Kord was. Looking forward to see how you work that out.
Suggestion: I'm not familiar with Stilgar's past history. But, if clerics can be within one step of their deity's alignment, perhaps Stilgar could do the same as a warrior? For instance, given that Gorum is CN, that should mean it's possible to be a CG follower of the war god and still make the dogma work.

therealthom |

therealthom wrote:...What are you gonna do about a deity?...Gorum -- well -- he isn't as good for the good-leaning half-orc as Kord was. Looking forward to see how you work that out.Suggestion: I'm not familiar with Stilgar's past history. But, if clerics can be within one step of their deity's alignment, perhaps Stilgar could do the same as a warrior? For instance, given that Gorum is CN, that should mean it's possible to be a CG follower of the war god and still make the dogma work.
That should work. I'm trying it in another PbP. It'll be intereseting to see what Radavel does.

Billzabub |

As a uh, "diplomat" of sorts, Keliwyn would be happy to be the buffer between Istas & Stilgar which should be easier than doing so with Inigo, although I liked Judge Dredd & will miss him.
I like my visit with the consul, and will post something tomorrow after giving it a bit of thought, and will post up my shopping choices as well.

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As a uh, "diplomat" of sorts, Keliwyn would be happy to be the buffer between Istas & Stilgar which should be easier than doing so with Inigo, although I liked Judge Dredd & will miss him.
I like my visit with the consul, and will post something tomorrow after giving it a bit of thought, and will post up my shopping choices as well.
Inigo is not yet finished but I feel that his continued presence in the party may jeopardize whatever it is we are trying to do, conflicting philosophies and all that.

Neil Spicer Contributor, RPG Superstar 2009, RPG Superstar Judgernaut |

Inigo is not yet finished but I feel that his continued presence in the party may jeopardize whatever it is we are trying to do, conflicting philosophies and all that.
Actually, I thought this next part concerning the Cheliax ambassador to Korvosa would be right up his alley. If there was ever a moment when having a follower of Asmodeus in the party would pay off, this seemed like the time to me. But Stilgar can certainly help crack some heads instead. :-)

therealthom |

Made a nifty pathfinder ability v. point cost calculator in excel. (figured out how to use conditional statements, a new thing for me. happy, happy, joy, joy. happy, happy, joy, joy.
Willing to share if you want one too.
Anyway. The party's point cost after Inigo's departure is 31-44 points. ( Yow!) Stilgar currently sits at 24.
Radavel, rebuild Stilgar to 30+d12 pathfinder point buy. What are you gonna do about a deity? Cayden will be a tough one since Stilgar took the pledge? Gorum -- well -- he isn't as good for the good-leaning half-orc as Kord was. Looking forward to see how you work that out.
Edit: I must still be short on sleep.
This verdict or another? You may use Stilgar or Inigo as you choose. But in either case control of the mission against Devargo has passed to Keliwyn.

therealthom |

I think we're all waiting on Bill to come back and answer via Keliwyn. I never one to balk at posting lots of in-character dialogue with NPCs, but I also don't want Istas to keep stealing Keliwyn's thunder. This is his show and his moment to shine.
That was the plan, but he hasn't posted since Monday. Almost a full week ago. If he hasn't posted by Monday night, let's move on with the gnome. He'll make a decent sideshow 'til Bill posts and we get back to the mission. And Heather has made a good start that way.
When Bill posts Keliwyn can get things back on track.

therealthom |

Nice post, Bill.
I'm busy this morning and expect the boards to be unreliable for the next few days while everyone buys pdfs of the new rules. So don't lose hope if you don't here from me.
Neil, I remember Istas had chipped in a diplomacy aid another too.

Billzabub |

Nice post, Bill.
I'm busy this morning and expect the boards to be unreliable for the next few days while everyone buys pdfs of the new rules. So don't lose hope if you don't here from me.
Neil, I remember Istas had chipped in a diplomacy aid another too.
Yeah, and I just saw that they're going to have an official SRD going live tomorrow, too.