
thereal thom |

Welcome. And thanks for hanging with me. Posting will be difficult for me until after Christmas, that's why the January start date in the initial post. Losing the long post last Thursday or Friday was very depressing, too. I've been thinking about my idea with your characters in mind. I'll need to make some changes to fit your characters better. That's cool.
I couldn't get working email from my friend the arcane caster, but that seems to be resolved now. Got to get him signed onto the boards here.
Let me grab the first character I see and start reviewing. Please talk about your ideas of Korvosa based on the little teasers Paizo has put out.
Oh. And even if your character is statted up, you're not done yet. Please take 6 skill points and put them into a useless knowledge, profession, or craft skill or two. Just for additional flavor. Hopefully I'll be able to work it into the game.

thereal thom |

Oh, benevolent DM, Are we looking to roll characters or point buy.
Forgive me if you already said somewhere and I just missed it.
Also - how are you wanting us to do start up money?
I'll have my character cranked out as soon as I know.
Oh my poor lost post. It covered it all. OK. Character generation.
you can roll 4d6 lose the lowest, arrange scores to your liking. Or you can go for point buy. (26+1d4)Roll start-up money. Don't worry about low rolls. This sidetrek should be pretty low combat and provide money earning opportunities. If your character absolutely needs something for image and you can't afford it, talk to me. I'll make you an offer you can't refuse.

thereal thom |

Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.
Good.
Teaser: Initial sidetrek will be something of a puzzle.
Hopefully 3 independent story lines can be made to converge to at least get everyone in the group known to each other. More hopefully with a degree of mutual respect if perhaps some antipathy. If it turns into a train wreck, when we begin Crimson Throne we'll rewrite history slightly to enable the group to work together.
Oh, characters may take a bonus feat from the Rise o' the Rune LOrds list. When we start Crimson Throne we can rebuild characters slightly if CT bonus feats look better to anyone.

Alex Martin |

Alex Martin wrote:Sorry, Alex. It looks like we're full. I will definitely put you on the waiting list though.I am somewhat curious, but not sure I can take on another pbp just yet. Any background on what's going on in this adventure, if I may ask?
Adventuring in Varisia looks to be cool.
Oops...didn't realize I was coming in on tail-end. No worries...if something pops up later, just give me a shake over at Flamifur's.

Darvyl Wrightson |

Still here, boss!
I think I'm pretty set with background -- working into Korvosa being the "lawful" city with a non-lawful character. Just some tweaks to meet my subgroup.
I'll have maximum time available between now and mid-January, but don't anticipate having trouble keeping up beyond that (yes, I am on the academic calendar, thank you).
Off to roll dice . . . (just downloaded RPGXplorer a couple days ago, so I'm good to go).

Jeorik Vandor |

Character is started. Haven't bought equipment yet but otherwise good to go. I used Invisible Castle for character ability rolls - very pleased with the subsequent results.
Jeorik is going to Korvosa to try and find at least one of his uncles, whom he has never met.
I took the bonus skill points in Knowledge (religion) and Knowledge (nature), both of which fit the character concept I wanted. Bonus feat was Big Game Hunter.

Jeorik Vandor |

Darvyl Wrightson |

Starting gold = 170 gpHunting apparently can pay pretty well over the years.
Better than "wastrel" anyway (I rolled 130).

Jeorik Vandor |

Jeorik is finished and ready to go.
I switched Swim around with Handle Animal, bought a mule and gave her some commands she obeys (two years of training). Her name is Pax. I rolled her hitpoints and stated her up in the character description. Not a lot of money left, but enough for a couple of nights in Korvosa I hope.
Let me know, kindly DM, what changes if any I need to make to the background and such.

thereal thom |

Jeorik is finished and ready to go.
I switched Swim around with Handle Animal, bought a mule and gave her some commands she obeys (two years of training). Her name is Pax. I rolled her hitpoints and stated her up in the character description. Not a lot of money left, but enough for a couple of nights in Korvosa I hope.
Let me know, kindly DM, what changes if any I need to make to the background and such.
Nice rolls. Invisible castle never treated me so well. (intense jealousy)

thereal thom |

Jeorik Vandor wrote:Better than "wastrel" anyway (I rolled 130).
Starting gold = 170 gpHunting apparently can pay pretty well over the years.
Darvyl looks good.

thereal thom |

The cast so far:
Darvyl, human melee fighter Good, with comments.
Jeorik, human ranged fighter Good.
Darthen, half-elf urban ranger / security specialist Good, with comments.
"Ghost", human rogue
[unnamed], human (?) cleric of (Asmodeus?)
[unnamed], unspecified arcane caster
Darvyl, Darthen and Ghost all know each other. That will work fine.

thereal thom |

Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.
Darthen looks good.
Also, can you give me a couple sentences each on his four main NPC contacts for info? Is your skill count right? Did you include all the useless bonus points, if so where? One other question on background: the mystery and innuendo is great for a public background, but I've got to know -- did Darthen kill the corpse, or just finger him? How dirty a job will he take?

Keliwyn |

Alright, I canned Ghost and came up with a Elven Rogue instead. Basically, the thought of playing a cliche rogue with attitude seemed like it would get old quick. Plus, I was originally thinking of an elf or half elven character. So, I've gone with an elven information specialist type rogue. If it works for you, I was thinking that he might work for the emissary from the Mierani elves to Korvosa. Maybe the emissary comes and goes, even for lenghty periods of time, so he/she keeps a couple of people in place in the city to act behind the scenes, keep tabs on things and generally gather useful information.
Most of the stats and info are posted, although I do need to flesh out the skills, background, description, and equipment. For flavor, I was thinking of asking if I could swap longsword proficiency for scimitar, but I could take it or leave it. It just strikes me that the latter is more elvish/roguish, and we have a couple of longsword guys already.

thereal thom |

Alright, I canned Ghost and came up with a Elven Rogue instead. Basically, the thought of playing a cliche rogue with attitude seemed like it would get old quick. Plus, I was originally thinking of an elf or half elven character. So, I've gone with an elven information specialist type rogue. If it works for you, I was thinking that he might work for the emissary from the Mierani elves to Korvosa. Maybe the emissary comes and goes, even for lenghty periods of time, so he/she keeps a couple of people in place in the city to keep tabs on things and generally gather useful information.
Most of the stats and info are posted, although I do need to flesh out the skills, background, description, and equipment. For flavor, I was thinking of asking if I could swap longsword proficiency for scimitar, but I could take it or leave it. It just strikes me that the latter is more elvish/roguish, and we have a couple of longsword guys already.
Brilliant. I like the concept. I'll check him out tomorrow. Scimitar for longsword? I'm inclined to approve Both are d8 damage right? What about crits?

Keliwyn |

Keliwyn is done and ready to go.
What's that? You're having a bad day? Wow, I'm truly sorry to hear that. Hey, let me buy you an ale and you can tell me all about it. By the way, the district's captain of the guard is a neighbor of yours, isn't he? You mind if I ask you a few questions? You know, you look hungry, let me get us some dinner while we talk.

Iñigo |

Thom, considering that Iñigo is part of the nobility, would it be possible for him to start with breastplate armor, starting cash notwithstanding?
Also, can Iñigo take the Law Devotion feat from Complete Champion and Spontaneous Domain (Fire) Casting as an alternative class feature from PHB II? These feats would complement Iñigo's role as a Judicator, i.e. police/judge/jury/executioner. Korvosa is still a frontier compared to Cheliax.
For your ready reference, please see the following:
Spontaneous Domain Casting: You do not gain the ability to spontaneously convert prepared spells into cure or inflict spells.
You can convert stored spell energy into the spells of one of your domains. Pick one of your two domains. You can "lose" any prepared spell (other than a domain spell) to cast any spell of the same level or lower on that domain list. Your choice is permanent unless an alignment change, deity change or other dramatic event leaves you incapable of accessing the domain. In addition, when preparing spells you can fill any or all of your domain spell slots with cure or inflict spells (depending on whether you would normally convert prepared spells to cure or inflict spells) of the same level.

Darthen |

Darthen wrote:Ocho here. I will be fine tuning the background etc. but the major parts are stable.Darthen looks good.
** spoiler omitted **
Thom:
Having him in business for awhile was something I thought of initially. It would explain how he got his money/gear and built his contacts up. He is still young so a year seems about right. That will allow him to have the contacts you want info on without it feeling rushed. I will try and come up with something in the next day or two. How much detail do you want on the NPCs? You said a few sentences so just a quick bio on them? Thalus will be one of the contacts since he has already used Darthen before. Feel free to use Thalus as an NPC if you are so inclined.
I did forget to add in the 6 bonus points you gave. Those have been put into Profession (investigator) 4 ranks and Knowledge (Geography) 2 ranks.
Spoiler on the corpse:
The official got word that someone was snooping around sticking his nose where it did not belong. He grabbed a couple other corrupt guards to confront him in an alley. Out numbered he was able to use the narrow alley to hold them off. Before long a couple of Thalus' thugs came on the scene. Recognizing Darthen they crept behind the guards and flanked them. After the battle he explained to the thugs what he found. They searched the corpses, took some papers, and gave the guards' meager gear to Darthen. The thugs hauled off the officials corpse whose head later turned up on the doorsteps.
I just quickly threw that together. Darthen is neutral so chopping a head off to me sounds more cold blooded than I like. Even trying to explain it as a good idea didn't sound right.
He will take just about any job. Although murdering people is not something he does. He will defend himself and doesn't have any remorse if the person dies.
Since this was his first official contract getting the guards gear was a good way to explain how he got started.

thereal thom |

thereal thom wrote:Requests answered on the sheet. Ready?
Darvyl looks good.
** spoiler omitted **
Looks good.

thereal thom |

Darthen:
The NPC don't need much detail. Just a sentence or two. Profession, relationship with you mostly. Thalus counts. I will be using him.
You and Darvyl might want to work out your relationship. Have you employed him as muscle? From his guard days does he question your propriety in the matter of the head?

thereal thom |

Thom, considering that Iñigo is part of the nobility, would it be possible for him to start with breastplate armor, starting cash notwithstanding?
Also, can Iñigo take the Law Devotion feat from Complete Champion and Spontaneous Domain (Fire) Casting as an alternative class feature from PHB II? These feats would complement Iñigo's role as a Judicator, i.e. police/judge/jury/executioner. Korvosa is still a frontier compared to Cheliax.
For your ready reference, please see the following: ** spoiler omitted **
Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?
Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.
Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.
Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?

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Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?
Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.
Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.
Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?
Yes on the breast plate being shiny and being accompanied by a plumed helm.
Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.
The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.
These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.

Darvyl Wrightson |

You and Darvyl might want to work out your relationship. Have you employed him as muscle? From his guard days does he question your propriety in the matter of the head?
Darthen:
Thoughts?

thereal thom |

thereal thom wrote:Breastplate: OK. Is it shiny? Does it come with a gleaming plumed helm?
Law devotion: Concept ok. Looks a little overpowered to me. I'd be inclined to water it down.
Spontaneous Domain: The idea of spontaneously casting domain spells is very cool. What irks me on first impression is that it also bypasses the spell domain requirement.
Are either of these 2 feats prerequisites for something you want later?
Yes on the breast plate being shiny and being accompanied by a plumed helm.
Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.
The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.
These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.
Radavel, I will seriously consider your arguments.

Darthen |

Guys, probably won't be able to post until after Christmas. Merry Christmas to you all.
Wow this week has just been crazy. This is the first time I have been on the computer in two days. I will not be on until the day after Christmas at a minimum. So Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope you get what you have asked for. :D

thereal thom |

Spontaneous domain casting is an alternative class feature, it replaces spontaneous casting of inflict spells. It does not bypass the domain spell requirement, as Iñigo is sitll obliged to maintain a domain spell which he cannot convert to a Fire Domain Spell which may be an inflict spell. However, Iñigo is not precluded from using the domain slot for a Fire domain Spell.
This is the sentence that I object to:
"In addition, when preparing spells you can fill any or all of your domain spell slots with cure or inflict spells (depending on whether you would normally convert prepared spells to cure or inflict spells) of the same level. " I don't like being able to drop inflict spells in for the domain spell. To me it violates the whole metagame premise that the domain spells are for flavor, and the in game premise that a diety wants his clerics to have a certain flare. I am fully prepared to accept spontaneous domain casting without that sentence.
The Law Devotion feat is not as overpowered as it may seem in the light of the fact of Iñigo's choice of deity, Asmodeus. Iñigo would have to rely more often on his personal ability rather than the assistance of others. Moreover, the 1-minute duration of the ability means that it can only be used at most for only one encounter per day and although Iñigo can invoke the ability again by spending 3 rebuke attempts, still that is a delicate balancing act that may put greater pressure in later game play, i.e. when there are a lot undead.
I admit that I missed the 1/day and 1 minute limits on the spell. You're right this is basically a one encounter feat. That goes a long way toward making it more palatable. Do you agree that the bonus is either all attack or all AC? What makes you think a good-aligned DM like me would use undead?
These feat and ability are not intended to be prerequisites for later feats. However, I am trying to build up Iñigo as a warrior-priest, a direct contrast to his rival, Paracount Julistar, an variant scholarly cleric. Julistar appeared as the leader of Her Infernal Majestrix's Expeditionary in Entombed with the Pharoahs.
Wow. I thought you had come up with Julistar and the S&M queen on your own. Are there any other good back-ground flavor bits in there?