I agree about Aubrey and Wicht..Kruelaid runs a good game too..I love Z day..its just so Romero
Kruelaid just posted yesterday. Hurray!
Just started looking at Z day. That's some good stuff. Definitely on my must read list now.
Otyugh: I thought you all were going to just off him so I let initiative order slide more than normal. IF we stuck strictly to it I bet he'd be dead. He still may be depending how Istas takes this ....
"The little blue men gave me food. How is food bad? But you can have this." The otyugh sits in his squalor and pushes Gaekhen's legs toward you...."That's all. Don't know more.""The blue men are dead," Istas states, reaching forward to clasp Gaekhen's legs so she can pull the remains away from the otyugh and back towards the chamber's entrance, "And this isn't food."
"Are you a carrion crow?" she asks, "Only scavenging animals would feast upon such things. Are you an animal? If so, perhaps we should butcher you without a thought and eat you as well? But, no, you're an intelligent beast...with a fate laid out for you by Pharasma herself...and capable of choice...not just natural instinct. Thinking creatures...including your kind...should know better. Eat whatever else you like, but not the bodies of those laid to rest in Pharasma's graveyard."
"You should leave this place," she finishes, "And never return. If you do, you will be hunted down and slain."
This was a great speech. I was sooooo tempted to give you a (not-so) little Pharasma otyugh convert. Which would have been pretty darn ironic in a meta-gaming sort of way. But let's face it. Most otyughs are about dead meat and offal and they're happy that way.
This was a great speech. I was sooooo tempted to give you a (not-so) little Pharasma otyugh convert. Which would have been pretty darn ironic in a meta-gaming sort of way. But let's face it. Most otyughs are about dead meat and offal and they're happy that way.
You could always just send him off to become another minion of Gulga Cench. ;-D
Istas might have named him Cinchy Gulch and he might have become The Thing That Wouldn't Leave.
I have the adventure but haven't read it, so I thought maybe you made Rolth an alias of Gulga Cench.
No. Rolth is the as written CoCT necromancer. Gulga Cench is of course Neil's otyugh villian from RPG Superstar. This bozo is entirely more typical of otyughs: wallow, eat, sleep. Oh it's a grind.
Still given how nasty Gulga was, it would have been pretty darn funny if Istas had just got herself an otyugh pet. Can't you see her sneaking it into the temple. Grooming it. And paying to feed it! SHe might never have been able to purchase magic gear.
I like Bill's comment comparing the otyugh to worms and bugs. Touche!
I like Bill's comment comparing the otyugh to worms and bugs. Touche!
I've got more than that coming. Don't tell Neil, but Istas is in for an ear full once we get above ground.
Ahhh...be careful now. Tread lightly. Because Istas is one of my most "hard-ass" characters. She's not the type to react well to that type of approach. So, choose your angle carefully. She comes from the philosophy that you don't mess with Death. And that's the portfolio of the goddess she represents. She's kindhearted to her friends...but fierce towards her enemies.
Even so, I'm interested in seeing how you have Keliwyn approach her. It should set up some interesting intra-party dynamics for the adventure ahead...
Wouldn't it be easier just to list what he doesn't have? :-)
Heathers outburst is due to a number of factors...the pain of her wounds clouding her better judgement...the fact that she realises she is too weak in combat to have any real effect...and a definite fustration with those who don't listen to what she is telling them.
Don't forget she didn't get much sleep last night either. That will make anyone cranky.
I like the role-play in this group. Good stuff, like the way Jeorik and Inigo have turned their verbal sparring into a contest to see who can become damage sponge of the party. Chivalry has not died. Seriously the acid trap is pretty tough. ;)
Seriously the acid trap is pretty tough. ;)
Not to mention...annoying. :-\
Everyone I am so impressed -- 5 replies in about 8 hours.
Radavel, welcome back. We do miss you when you're away.
Wicht, good question about constructs and channel. My gut reaction is no -- constructs do not benefit from channelling positive energy, but I'm not sure that's correct. If they don't benefit from positive energy, should they be immune to negative energy? And there's the positive energy-animated object connnection.
As long as I'm chatting here, Bill -- I said "engaged in melee" -- the rules are "within 10' " for the nauseating stench. Sometimes I'm sloppy like that. Anyway since Keliwyn started the round up close and personal I figured he needed to save.
Got to go post round 3.
As long as I'm chatting here, Bill -- I said "engaged in melee" -- the rules are "within 10' " for the nauseating stench. Sometimes I'm sloppy like that. Anyway since Keliwyn started the round up close and personal I figured he needed to save.Got to go post round 3.
FYI...I may be AFK this weekend with PaizoCon going on. They're supposed to have wireless access at the hotel, but I may not have time to check in on the game. If not, keep bashing away with Istas. If she falls to the golem (i.e., into negative hit points), she'll feign death and then rely on her Diehard feat to let her channel positive energy and hopefully get her back in the fight again.
FYI...I may be AFK this weekend with PaizoCon going on. They're supposed to have wireless access at the hotel, but I may not have time to check in on the game. If not, keep bashing away with Istas. If she falls to the golem (i.e., into negative hit points), she'll feign death and then rely on her Diehard feat to let her channel positive energy and hopefully get her back in the fight again.
That's right. You're at Paizocon. Strike that. You're an attraction at Paizocon. Have a great time.
Thanks for the heads up and tactics. If you can't post, I'll do my best.
Looks like I'm capable of posting. Tomorrow's a pretty hectic day for me, track-wise, at the con, though. So we'll see how much time I actually have to participate. You can trust that I'll contribute where and when I can.
Right. No worries, we usually slow down a little on weekends anyway. Have a great time at the con.
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Hey Neil you just concentrate in basking in your well earned fame as RPG Superstar..(not envious at all..well maybe a little...ok then a lot)
Thom...I'll swap Disguise self for Summon Monster I if thats ok by you...I have this plan to keep Heathers spell choices linked to her bloodline so I'll be summoning flying creatures at lower levels and Air Elementals at higher ones..most of her attacks will be electrical or wind based as I can aqquire them..add in a few useful things like fly and invisibility and she becomes viable..especially as shes going to lose her human weapon training when we go to PF Final.
And it's definitely time for the Harrow reading
Hey Neil you just concentrate in basking in your well earned fame as RPG Superstar..(not envious at all..well maybe a little...ok then a lot)
Thom...I'll swap Disguise self for Summon Monster I if thats ok by you...I have this plan to keep Heathers spell choices linked to her bloodline so I'll be summoning flying creatures at lower levels and Air Elementals at higher ones..most of her attacks will be electrical or wind based as I can aqquire them..add in a few useful things like fly and invisibility and she becomes viable..especially as shes going to lose her human weapon training when we go to PF Final.
And it's definitely time for the Harrow reading
Excellent. I like what you're doing with her. I don't think keeping the weapon proficiency is a game breaker if you want it. And, unless I fall into money, we probably won't go to PF final til after Christmas.
Very glad you haven't forgotten the Harrow reading.
If no one pipes up by lunch today I'll broadbrush your report and meet with Thousand Bones.
Thanks for the heads up, Wicht. We're into some relaxed roleplay for a couple days anyway. Any plans aside from picking up Jeorik's bow?
Guys, probably can't post til Sunday night. Suddenly very busy IRL. Have a good weekend.
Guys, still busy. Will post as i can. Definitely posting Wed night.
The loot report:
For all the things you killed, you didn't come up with much from the Dead Warrens.
2 scrolls and Vreeg's spellbook. (Heather has them)
The everburning lantern (Jeorik)
Some books on disease. (Istas)
Croft gave you 100 gp each for retreiving Gaekhen.
You left behind a bunch of random tools, some excellent alchemical gear, most of Rolth's library and some stuff you missed by being properly heroly and not searching through the otyugh's filth when there were people to save and monsters to kill. I'll make it up to you.
In fact i already am through Cressida's paid patrols which are happening offscreen. Credit each of yourselves another 20 gp.
ALso, for ingame reasons, I kind of cut your shopping short before the Dead Warrens. If there's anything you want to buy, you've got two weeks game time for it to be custom made. Plenty of time for most second level type orders.
Didnt we loot Vreegs body..that should give us a wand of ghoul touch and a ring of protection +1 as well as the scrolls,if we forgot to you might want the clean up crew to have turned those over to the Pharassmen and let them come to us that way.
Yes, you did loot Vreeg's body. I forgot that in the tally. Nice catch, Wellard!
We jumped to second level early so we could do the Dead Warrens sooner than written in the AP because it was the natural intro for Istas to the party. If you guys really want I can figure up experience and hand out numbers, but I'd rather just look at the adventures as written and set your level by DM fiat. (Partly it's that I'm lazy. Like I said if you really want numbers I can do that too.) Part of my reasoning is that I'll be short-cutting some things I don't like or think essential to the AP so you would end up short on experience.
I'm comfortable without the detailed numbers. By all means, use DM fiat to determine when and where we should level. Most PbP's move so slowly that it's difficult to advance a PC in any kind of timely fashion if you go strictly by the numbers anyway.
My only remaining concern is that we don't get thrown into any encounters further down the adventure path for which we're unprepared because the CR won't be level-appropriate for us. You're doing a fine balancing act so far. But, depending on which parts you choose to cut, you may want to consider advancing us to whatever level we would have been if we had gone through those parts, just to make sure we're at the appropriate level for the next scene you still intend to use.
But that's just my two-cents,
--Neil
Ahhh. Curse my unorganization. I lost the evening looking for how much I've handed out in swag so far. (and helping clean house, but I'd rather not admit to that. Would kind of ruin my he-man, super- male-chauvinist image.)
Anyway, I'm thinking of appointing Wellard treasure czar. He does a much better job keeping track of it than I do. I had quite forgotten how much more generous my Ileosa is than the AP's Ileosa. So I was just doing sum's from the AP treasure and of course you guys have more money than that. Can't imagine what I was thinking unless it was to get you rich enough to afford second level gear because we were going to second level.
It doesn't matter. It is what it is. Sorry I doubted your buying power, Wellard.
I'm comfortable without the detailed numbers. By all means, use DM fiat to determine when and where we should level. Most PbP's move so slowly that it's difficult to advance a PC in any kind of timely fashion if you go strictly by the numbers anyway.
My only remaining concern is that we don't get thrown into any encounters further down the adventure path for which we're unprepared because the CR won't be level-appropriate for us. You're doing a fine balancing act so far. But, depending on which parts you choose to cut, you may want to consider advancing us to whatever level we would have been if we had gone through those parts, just to make sure we're at the appropriate level for the next scene you still intend to use.
But that's just my two-cents,
--Neil
I intend to handle it precisely as you said in the sentence in bold, Neil. I'm pretty sure that was part of my motivation for going to 2nd level early because the Dead Warrens were the ideal intro for Istas to the party.
In other news, I swapped some emails with Radavel, he's been super-busy but is still interested in the campaign. He's thinking over if he needs a break for another couple weeks or not. Depending on his decision, Inigo may be sitting out the next scenario, but will definitely remain in the storyline so that he'll be ready when Radavel is.
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OK the total loot so far is.
Taken from Yargin at Lamms Place
Wand of Acid Splash (26 charges)
3 vials of acid
2 tanglefootbags
1 thunderstone
Garnet amulet worth 100gp
Taken from Lamm himself
Masterwork Dagger
Masterwork Hand crossbow
Then there was Lamms treasure which we handed over to the Watch( and haven't heard anything about yet.(see below however re the Queens Reward)
The treasures include a narrow teak cigar case inlaid with tiny bits of jade worth 25 gp, a 2-pound gold ingot worth 100 gp bearing the Cheliax coat of arms, a miniature gold crown worth 350 gp, a fist-sized scrimshaw carving of a kraken with garnets for eyes worth 200 gp,a silver ring worth 150 gp bearing the inscription “For Emmah—the light in my nights,” a highly realistic and highly scandalous ivory figurine of two entwined succubi worth 450 gp, a masterwork shuriken, an adamantine arrowhead, an abalone-shell holy symbol of Shelyn worth 300 gp, a tiny glass tube containing a dose of oil of keen edge,an obsidian wand of magic missile (23 charges), a crystalline vial (itself worth 50 gp) containing a dose of silversheen
The queen gave each of us (excluding Istas) 750 GP each for returning her brooch(which was 550 GP a head more than we should have had going by the path as written so it more than makes up for not getting the value of Lamms treasure)
The Warrens garnered us a scroll of command undead, a scroll of Identify, a wand of ghoul touch(42 charges) a ring of protection +1 and a Robe of Bones (which I cant seen the Pharassmen letting us keep)
I suggest that Inigo gets the wand of Ghoul Touch and that the Ring goes to Keliwyn
We have had 120GP each for our services to the watch.
I'll be at PaizoCon UK over next weekend so I doubt I'll be posting much between Friday and Monday
The Warrens garnered us a scroll of command undead, a scroll of Identify, a wand of ghoul touch(42 charges) a ring of protection +1 and a Robe of Bones (which I cant seen the Pharassmen letting us keep)
I'm assuming most of those items came from Rolth, and not necessarily the tombs of the Dead Warrens. So, I don't think the Pharasmen would begrudge your claim to them. Now, carrying around a robe of bones might not make them happy. But we should be able to sell that for a fair amount and then purchase something different. The scroll of command undead is probably something Istas would very much want to keep...given her concerns about Urgathoa's followers impacting the city in the near future.
I suggest that Inigo gets the wand of Ghoul Touch and that the Ring goes to Keliwyn...
Unless Inigo has ghoul touch on his spell list, he'll have to rely on Use Magic Device checks to make use of it. This item might be better served for Heather. Or, we could also trade it in for a different kind of wand...maybe a cure wand for the group...though it seems Keliwyn may have acquired one already. So, maybe something different. A wand of shield of faith or mage armor might be worthwhile.
We have had 120GP each for our services to the watch.
I've tried to apply those funds as frugally as possible so Istas can replace the scroll she used in the Dead Warrens.
I'll be at PaizoCon UK over next weekend so I doubt I'll be posting much between Friday and Monday...
Have a good time!
--Neil
OK the total loot so far is.
Taken from Yargin at Lamms Place
Wand of Acid Splash (26 charges)
3 vials of acid
2 tanglefootbags
1 thunderstone
Garnet amulet worth 100gpTaken from Lamm himself
Masterwork Dagger
Masterwork Hand crossbowThen there was Lamms treasure which we handed over to the Watch( and haven't heard anything about yet.(see below however re the Queens Reward)
The treasures include a narrow teak cigar case inlaid with tiny bits of jade worth 25 gp, a 2-pound gold ingot worth 100 gp bearing the Cheliax coat of arms, a miniature gold crown worth 350 gp, a fist-sized scrimshaw carving of a kraken with garnets for eyes worth 200 gp,a silver ring worth 150 gp bearing the inscription “For Emmah—the light in my nights,” a highly realistic and highly scandalous ivory figurine of two entwined succubi worth 450 gp, a masterwork shuriken, an adamantine arrowhead, an abalone-shell holy symbol of Shelyn worth 300 gp, a tiny glass tube containing a dose of oil of keen edge,an obsidian wand of magic missile (23 charges), a crystalline vial (itself worth 50 gp) containing a dose of silversheen
The queen gave each of us (excluding Istas) 750 GP each for returning her brooch(which was 550 GP a head more than we should have had going by the path as written so it more than makes up for not getting the value of Lamms treasure)
The Warrens garnered us a scroll of command undead, a scroll of Identify, a wand of ghoul touch(42 charges) a ring of protection +1 and a Robe of Bones (which I cant seen the Pharassmen letting us keep)
I suggest that Inigo gets the wand of Ghoul Touch and that the Ring goes to Keliwyn
We have had 120GP each for our services to the watch.
I'll be at PaizoCon UK over next weekend so I doubt I'll be posting much between Friday and Monday
Wellard, thanks for stepping up to the plate on treasure. (Although I was half joking). I did give you guys extra cash from the queen and for the early second level jump. Partly to make up for the lost treasure. ("WHo has it!?" "Top men.")
Hope you have fun at the con. If you can find French Wolf say HI! for me.
Did Jeorik score most of Yargin's alchemical treasure?
And Keliwyn still has that potion of cure light wounds from the Maggie Bright. (I don't think he drank it yet)
The Warrens garnered us .... Robe of Bones (which I cant seen the Pharassmen letting us keep)I'm assuming most of those items came from Rolth, and not necessarily the tombs of the Dead Warrens. So, I don't think the Pharasmen would begrudge your claim to them. Now, carrying around a robe of bones might not make them happy. But we should be able to sell that for a fair amount and then purchase something different. The scroll of command undead is probably something Istas would very much want to keep...given her concerns about Urgathoa's followers impacting the city in the near future..
The robe of bones is played out. IT had only a couple undead left when Vreeg started tossing them at you.
We have had 120GP each for our services to the watch.
I've tried to apply those funds as frugally as possible so Istas can replace the scroll she used in the Dead Warrens.
--NeilNeil, we need to look at your loot situation vis a vis the others.
Everyone please DMNPC Inigo until Wednesday. Have a big project that requires my full attention.
For Thom** spoiler omitted **
Radavel, we can work something out. Have your girl call my girl. We'll get together have lunch.
The robe of bones is played out. IT had only a couple undead left when Vreeg started tossing them at you.
"Good. It's a nasty business summoning undead creatures! I take great satisfaction in knowing the Lady of Graves allowed us to force Vreeg to deplete such a foul item."
Neil, we need to look at your loot situation vis a vis the others.
I'm game. Just let me know what you want to do.
Wellard, that most mysterious and chaotic of all things, my memory, has summoned up a little tidbit, the truth of which I can't actually recall. Did you ask about Heather's starting cash recently? If so, the answer I don't recall posting was "roll it." Not that it matters much now, peanuts really.
Neil, run a quick guesstimate of Heather's total worth, not including the loot from the Dead Warrens. Should take 5 minutes or you're working way too hard. Before the Warrens, using Wellard's figure from a week or two ago, the PCs were worth about 700 gp. We're looking for a major discrepancy between Istas and the rest of the party. That dagger may complicate things ....
Neil, run a quick guesstimate of Heather's total worth...
Looks like she's right around 1,500 gp give-or-take.
We're looking for a major discrepancy between Istas and the rest of the party. That dagger may complicate things ....
There isn't a major discrepancy. Istas' gear comes in around 2,250 gp. The dagger alone is 2,000 gp of that, but I didn't even assign a value to its ability to detect undead. That's probably worth another 1,000 gp at least. So, if anything, Istas is probably far ahead when compared to "pre-Dead Warrens" values...
Neil, run a quick guesstimate of Heather's total worth...Looks like she's right around 1,500 gp give-or-take.
We're looking for a major discrepancy between Istas and the rest of the party. That dagger may complicate things ....There isn't a major discrepancy. Istas' gear comes in around 2,250 gp. The dagger alone is 2,000 gp of that, but I didn't even assign a value to its ability to detect undead. That's probably worth another 1,000 gp at least. So, if anything, Istas is probably far ahead when compared to "pre-Dead Warrens" values...
Let's face it. The dagger's not really worth that much money to Istas. She could cover the detect undead power herself at longer range, and at least for a while +1 enchantment is the same as masterwork in terms of practical game effects. And given its provenance, I think her very unlikely to sell the dagger for filthy lucre. (And cheapskate that I am, I wouldn't give you market rate anyway. ;) Or maybe I would, then take it out of your hide.) I did think pretty hard to calibrate that prize when I gave it to you. It's value will go up when you face hordes of undead and DR/magic monsters in your later career. You talked about replacing some scrolls. Why don't you take 2-4 1st or 2nd level scrolls at half price and we'll call it even.
...given its provenance, I think her very unlikely to sell the dagger for filthy lucre.
I'm the type of player who's far more likely to hang onto an item for the roleplay value than the rollplay elements, anyway. So, if it's got a history among the Pharasmen...and its the favored weapon of Pharasma...Istas will carry it until someone pries it from her cold, dead hands...and maybe even after that. :-)
I did think pretty hard to calibrate that prize when I gave it to you. It's value will go up when you face hordes of undead and DR/magic monsters in your later career.
I could see it as a weapon Istas might look to further enhance with the "bane" property vs. undead somewhere down the road.
You talked about replacing some scrolls. Why don't you take 2-4 1st or 2nd level scrolls at half price and we'll call it even.
Istas is already carrying 3 1st level spell scrolls. I used one of them (i.e., bless) before the fight with the carrion golem and thought it proved useful enough that she might want to replace it. Aside from that, there aren't a whole lot more 1st level spells I feel like Istas needs on spell scrolls...and the 2nd level spell scrolls are a little too expensive to afford.
How about if we just exchange them for some kind of monetary value. Then, maybe Istas could invest in better armor (i.e., something better than studded leather) and possibly a masterwork club, spear, or mace? I'm kind of loathe to replace her grandfather's Shoanti-made spear. But maybe if Istas could acquire a masterwork spear from Kaddok, it might make sense to send her grandfather's spear back to the Cinderlands with Thousand Bones when he returns Gaekhen's remains?
Thoughts?
--Neil
And Keliwyn still has that potion of cure light wounds from the Maggie Bright. (I don't think he drank it yet)
Actually, I think Keliwyn did down that potion, although I'll have to read back through the thread to make sure. I'm also fairly sure I never allocated that 750gp to Keliwyn, or at least if I did, I can't tell what the hell I spent it on. Anyway, he'll do some shopping, and pick up a chain shirt and some sort of non piercing secondary weapon, if I can figure out what 'feels' right for him. (Can't use a handaxe, so light mace? Short sword? I'm not sure yet.) There might be one or two other things, but that should be about it.
So what are we doing with all of the stuff Wellard tallied? All in all, we have:
Wand of Acid Splash (26 charges)
3 vials of acid
2 tanglefootbags
1 thunderstone
Garnet amulet worth 100gp
Masterwork Dagger
Masterwork Hand crossbow
Any possibility we (read: Keliwyn) kept a few things back from the guard out of Lamm's stash? I'm thinking of the:
tiny glass tube containing a dose of oil of keen edge,
an obsidian wand of magic missile (23 charges),
a crystalline vial (itself worth 50 gp) containing a dose of silversheen
scroll of command undead
scroll of Identify
wand of ghoul touch (42 charges)
ring of protection +1
Robe of Bones
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On the subject of Istas gear..I'm sure the church would want to see it's priests as well protected in their duties as possibile and it's not as if Phrassma is a poor religion..there are probably many bequests of property and cash made to it..if you let Istas upgrade some of her mundane gear free of charge that would balance things a little