Everyone should head over and play with it. If this old dog can figure it out and consider it, then anyone can. It is actually easier and less clunky than Paizo, especially for mobile use.
Everyone should head over and play with it. If this old dog can figure it out and consider it, then anyone can. It is actually easier and less clunky than Paizo, especially for mobile use.
I agree. It's actually much more user friendly, and the learning curve for rolling dice and formatting text is very minimal. I'd appreciate it very much if everyone at least joined the server and gave it a week of playing around before deciding for sure one way or the other. I've been using it for live games for a while now, but I know it could easily work very well for a play by post type game as well, except better, because when multiple people from the group are on, they could live chat in the out of character channel, and that will make a more cohesive group, not just a loose gathering of individuals working, sort of, toward the same goal, they think. :)
Here's the link again, for those that haven't joined yet. Thanks!
Also, don't let playing on Discord prevent you from responding to Akassa in Gameplay. She's got a bombshell to drop and is waiting to have it coaxed out of her, but you didn't hear that from me. :P
For some reason both links are Invalid for me.
Yep, both links come up as invalid invites for me a well.
Not sure why, but sure enough when I went in to get the invite url, it had changed. Sorry about that. Hopefully this one works?! It might be because I deleted the #general channel this morning to make the channels a bit more "PbP user friendly." :) Let me know if that doesn't work. :) If it does, I'll just see you on Discord sometime. :)
Well, as suspected I cannot access it at work, so I will try to again from home when able.
I am getting an Invite Invalid message.
I am getting an Invite Invalid message.
When you use This invite?
If that's the case, try this one.
The bottom link will expire in a day, the top one is supposed to not expire. I tried the top link and it worked for me, but then again, I created the server so...
If neither of those work I do have the ability to just generate a completely new link url. Hopefully one of those works though.
Thanks for making the effort everyone. I really do think, if you give Discord a shot, you'll like it. Maybe not for this game, but perhaps, if not, it will open up the avenue to other games.
Worked.
Btw, some of us must have gotten a good look at the downed Kraiulans at the Shepherds' compound. I don't recall the question being asked, but somebody must have noticed what race they were. Were they also all elves of some ilk, or...?
Btw, some of us must have gotten a good look at the downed Kraiulans at the Shepherds' compound. I don't recall the question being asked, but somebody must have noticed what race they were. Were they also all elves of some ilk, or...?
Nope, all the bodies were humans.
Interestingly though, the building owners who appear to be Kraiulans are all elves/half-elves.
I've been working under the assumption that the stone, which we captured from the Ethalionites, might be one that THEY had captured from the Kraiulans (thus explaining the "5" on it), but we still don't know of sure either way.
Luna, everyone else has joined the Discord server. If you get a chance today, would you mind joining? I know it won't work from work computers, you've said that, and I anticipated it, but it does work from computers and phones rather well. As Quint suggested earlier, it might be possible to "hybrid" this game between Discord and the boards, where some interactions and combat could be done on the Discord, and then narrated at length here. In fact, the more I think about that, the more I really like the idea, because it allows us to go back and read through everything and craft the narrative around the action. Anyway, if you don't mind, please take some time away from Elder Scrolls ;P and join the Discord? Thanks!
Sorry, I had forgotten about this. I'm in. But still a LOT of exploring/understanding to do. I'm totally NOT clear about the dice roller though?
Just my 2 cents. I am open to the hybrid method. I really like this site for one glaring reason. I open one page and can see all the activity across all my PBP games. I joined a game once that used a different site and it was often off my radar.
Heads-up on two things.
I leave my laptop at home on all the time. Even when I'm gone, and thus the page for Discord has currently been up & open all the time, even when I have not been on my computer personally. So if I'm not responding to something right away, that is most likely why. If this is too irritating for people I have no issue with shutting down my Discord tab. (Probably better for my internet usage anyways.)
Second thing; Busy week at work, working some OT, including 4 hrs on my 'day off' on Wednesday, so my responses may be even slower.
I am also open to the hybrid gaming, though I have not had much time yet to explore / learn Discord. Hopefully after we get over this extreme cold spell (northeastern Illinois) maybe I'll be able to shake off the winter blues and get more active on here. Right now, the winter blues are drowning me.
Anyone have any bright ideas on how to track down this Zutir character in however much time is left between whatever time of day it is now and whatever later time is "usual" for whichever faction this stone originally belonged to?
I'm stumped.
... I'm stumped.
The Gnome is stumped! Hahaha! - Sorry, I couldn't resist! Nothing personal quint! Please don't get offended!
But no, I have no clue either.
Never really pulled that thread.
I suppose we could try tracking down our wayward son? Maybe that will lead to useful information.
You mean Jun? Given the time constraints, I think that as much as our characters might want to find him, we need to make Zutir the priority. Also, ooc, I don't think we're going to be able to find Jun.
This might sound a bit condescending, but sometimes I think you all are trying too hard and you end up missing the obvious solution(s). I've found, throughout my own history of RP games, that many times it's easiest to think about what you would do if you were in any given situation. In a situation like this, I'd, quite literally, start asking around. You all know people all over the city. Start asking them if they know a man named Zutir, and if so, what they know about him. For something like that, you wouldn't even have to roll, because I, the DM, know if your contacts know Zutir or not. All you would have to post is something like: "Luna goes throughout the city talking to all the people that she trusts, asking them if they know a man named Zutir, and if they do know the name, what do they know about him."
Seriously, stop making things more complicated than they have to be.
I think we do intend to do that, it's more a case of 'how do we do this so no one notices, or at least doesn't try to kill us/our friends/loved ones if it goes South.' Or at least that's Nikeisha's thinking.
Yeah, I had kinda ruled out the "blindly ask everyone you know if they've heard the name before" idea, on account of it being the opposite of discreet. Also, it sounds like it would likely take too long.
RPGs suffer a great deal from analysis paralysis. Add to the the need for secrecy. A state of Marshall law that is on edge (at least that's how it feels) I think that is why we are hesitant.
I find this game very interesting. Were it at the table we'd pepper you with a bunch of questions and move on. That process is slow in PBP even frowned on from time to time.
Just wanted to confirm. Drow look like sterotypical drow.
If so Avariel at the araments store is likely a half-drow.
Gotta agree with the DM here, let's move it along...
Just wanted to confirm. Drow look like sterotypical drow.
If so Avariel at the araments store is likely a half-drow.
There's a lot more going on here than the surface layer of your questions. For starters, besides yourself Psalm, among this party anyway, nobody has ever SEEN a drow. Remember that the existence of a subterranean race of elves is, to the masses, nothing but rumor and myth, tales told to frighten children into staying close to home at night. So nobody KNOWS what drow look like. Is having red eyes strange for a half-elf, yeah, for sure. Having dark-skin might be uncommon for a half-elf, but it's not rare.
One of the problems I always had with Faerun was the fact that in many situations it was completely white-washed. If dark-skinned humans exist, dark-skinned half-elves would, by necessity of probabilities of procreation, also exist. That is very much the case in Eafphqu. Dark-skinned half-elves exist. The assumption of everyone (except maybe you all at this point, and a select few others) would be that they have a plainsman or plainswoman as one of their parents, and that's where their dark skin came from. So to say "Drow look like stereotypical drow," makes way too many assumptions of the character's knowledge and the setting's races. The short answer is, "yes, drow look like stereotypical drow." The long answer, though has to take into account that Psalm only caught a glimpse of a few drow in conversation with some d'rak (orcs) in a dark cave one night. He doesn't know what stereotypical drow look like.
Also, @everyone: at no point did I think your characters would blindly go around the city asking everyone they are acquainted with if they'd heard the name Zutir. I know you are all embroiled in a delicate investigation. I would assume your characters would act accordingly. In my head, Quint would start with his street rats. That network of, by now well paid, orphans no doubt has a pretty solid collective knowledge of many of the who's who of Rydwyrna. Nikeisha has friends in low places as well. Luna has some members of the Order of the Open Fist that she could trust to be secretive. And, as Hack already posted, he's got some acquaintances that would possibly care less who he's asking about, or why. I never expected you to paint a sandwich board with the words, "Do you know Zutir!?" on both sides and wander around the city ringing a bell.
I get the analysis paralysis, that was why I suggested taking the path of least resistance. You have friends, some of whom you can trust to be discreet, and others who may not have any care at all about who you ask about.
Last point. @Hack, I'm going to ignore the "next" in your post, because it is still the morning, and the meeting that you all are trying to get to is "tonight" in game. So I'll assume Hack left the table with Akassa and went right to his boss and pit-fighter comrades to ask about Zutir. Speaking of which...
Correct! Thanks!
Ummm ... yes to all the recent posts!
In other words, I agree with Mended, we got paralyzed & need to move on, but I also agree with the others that we are also scared of advertising things and making more enemies. With Mended saying what he said about us asking discreetly, I agree & shall proceed in said manner.
By the way Mended, I did see your post in ... ? What the name of the other site again? - About possibly abandoning Paizo for this game, & using only the other site. That is fine by me if you want to. I still have not taken the time to learn about that site at all, but I can do it if it comes to that.
At the same time, in all honesty I have been considering possibly dropping this game due to time constraints primarily. RL and the game I run, and just things in general, I seem to be struggling for time lately.
By the way Mended, I did see your post in ... ? What the name of the other site again? - About possibly abandoning Paizo for this game, & using only the other site. That is fine by me if you want to. I still have not taken the time to learn about that site at all, but I can do it if it comes to that.
At the same time, in all honesty I have been considering possibly dropping this game due to time constraints primarily. RL and the game I run, and just things in general, I seem to be struggling for time lately.
Discord is the other site. I appreciate your honesty and I'll follow it up with some of my own. I'm about two shakes of a lambs tail from just walking away from the Paizo boards altogether. I've got two different games going on Discord, and they are easier, more fun, and have way more active participation. I don't want to drop this game. I like playing with all of you, and you all are at the brink of some major world events in Eafphqu. Plus you are the only team of players who currently have characters at the epicenter of that. I'll be weighing it over the next week or so, and see where we're at.
... I'm about two shakes of a lambs tail from just walking away from the Paizo boards altogether. ...
Just to be clear, your not saying you would 'walk away' from my Emerald Spire game are you?
Who knows, if I bother learning Discord, there is always a possibility that I would move my campaign over there as well, but don't say anything in my group just yet please.
@Luna, yes, that is what it means. I would miss your game it's been very fun, but this game is the only one I'm DMing here any more, and besides yours, I'm only in one other game and it drags so slowly that they wouldn't miss my character. So, yes, if I leave the Paizo boards, I plan on leaving them all together, and probably deleting my account.
Are we doing another meet up and report scene now, are we waiting for others to do there checks, or are we continuing to investigate wth the new information learned?
That was my assumption as well. Seeing as the secret society meeting is tonight, and it's midday now, I assumed you'd all meet back up at Thjorvar's Pegasus and hatch a plan as to how to get information from a man who is known as a master of deception. Likewise, how to get information out of him without putting huge targets on yourselves, or giving away what, exactly you're doing... ??? ;)
Seems to me like this game has lost all of its momentum. As I said on Discord, it seems like it might just be time to call it a ball, and go our separate ways. If that's the case, I thank you all for your time and efforts in giving this game a go. I wish you all good gaming! In a couple days I'll post some kind of summary post about the group of you taking Jun's wagon pulled by old nags and heading out into the land to look for greener and safer pastures. :)
I am all for moving this game to Discord.
@Mended: Please PM me if there is another game or games on Discord that I could join.
Sorry about my apparent lack of interest. I've been busy with work things, and recently, the game has sometimes felt so open-ended that I'm don't know what to do next, and it feels like figuring that out will take more time than I can devote to the task. If it was combat, an NPC interaction, or even in exploration mode, it would be easier to see when there's something I need to do and figure out what that is. As it stands, I often find myself checking in with the game and saying to myself "Well, I should probably do something, but I don't have time to figure out what that is right now, so I'll have to worry about it later." When nobody else is posting either (possibly for similar reasons?), and I'm not getting notifications of new posts, that "later" can sometimes stretch on for a while.
I think there are a few things that have slowed us.
We are being too careful. Judging by recent admonitions from the DM.
We aren't dealing with the sandboxiness well, or are playing characters that aren't suited for what might be called for.
There is a bit of what do we know when and did the character share it with the rest. I think for the most part we are operating in the open with each other. But even if we assume people are going to share all the details. Do we assume that they returned safely to tell us.
Lastly if we were at the table this would be long conversations in and out of character where we would get to pepper the DM with questions about what we know, don't know, and idiosyncrasies of the Republic. So we don't ask and try to go off what we can know certainly.
That said I like this game and would hate to see it go. It had a great deal of promise at the start.
I fully agree with Quint on this one. Could not have said it better.
I also agree with Psalm as well. And while I have not been active hardly at all, I think this game has potential and I would not like to see it go either.
This is a pretty common hiccup with sandbox games - check out any game of Kingmaker that gets to book two on here. If we can just hop into a solid rhythm we should move past it though.
The real question is, if The GM wants to move it wholesale to Discord, who is onboard?
I hear you all loud and clear. I guess, I've had trouble empathizing though, because I've never been one that had trouble operating in a completely open world. More often than not in games I've played, I've felt stifled by the railroad tracks and limited options. I never wanted to do that in this game. Perhaps, though, a trolley with frequent stops... I will do my best to be a bit more clear and directive in the where I think the PCs should be focused. Also, depending on how the dice go with the plan you all are about to embark on, this game might go from, "I don't know what to do," to "We've got too many things to do, which one do we pick." I'm sure we can get there. This is a good crew, some of the best I've ever played with. Let's gird up and charge forward. We'll get there. I know we will. Thank you all for your continued efforts. I do greatly appreciate them.
As Hack continues to back me, I'll put in another plug for moving the game to Discord. It is, by my estimation, a far superior platform. I've just started a PbP game on there that also is taking place in Eafphqu and it has been going very well. If we don't move over there, that's fine, just wanted to offer it again.
Thanks all!
Mended
I hear you all loud and clear. I guess, I've had trouble empathizing though, because I've never been one that had trouble operating in a completely open world. More often than not in games I've played, I've felt stifled by the railroad tracks and limited options. I never wanted to do that in this game. Perhaps, though, a trolley with frequent stops...
I don't think anyone's asking for anything that runs on rails... To torture a metaphor, I think maybe we've just been trying to find our way around on unmarked sidestreets for a while, and would like to find our way back to a freeway (where we would have lots of clearly-marked exits, but also a clear direction). I might be revealing my California bias with that one...
Speaking of clearly marked exits... It looks like, in game, we're just waiting for Quint to acquiesce and play the part of a would be joiner, with all of his comrades as secret backup arriving at The Floating Kraken separately. :)
Speaking of clearly marked exits... It looks like, in game, we're just waiting for Quint to acquiesce and play the part of a would be joiner, with all of his comrades as secret backup arriving at The Floating Kraken separately. :)
I concur. :-)
Speaking of clearly marked exits... It looks like, in game, we're just waiting for Quint to acquiesce and play the part of a would be joiner, with all of his comrades as secret backup arriving at The Floating Kraken separately. :)I concur. :-)
Was my most recent gameplay post not sufficient for this?
Was my most recent gameplay post not sufficient for this?Speaking of clearly marked exits... It looks like, in game, we're just waiting for Quint to acquiesce and play the part of a would be joiner, with all of his comrades as secret backup arriving at The Floating Kraken separately. :)I concur. :-)
Yes it was, I just had not seen it before I wrote my post. Sorry.