
Viktoria Ceres |

I will have the weekend (ie tomorrow) basically free, so I'll try and get my stuff up and together by then : )

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

no worrys GM

Vathan |

NAVY 1
Navy Reenlistment DC 6: 1d20 ⇒ 4 fail, he's out of the Navy
SCOUT 1 (3rd term)
Assignment: 1d20 ⇒ 5 Base, +1,000 XP enlistment bonus
Survive DC 2: 1d20 ⇒ 15 whew, +4,000 XP
dice=XP Bonus DC 6]Can't on first term
Total = 9k - 1k from Navy XP Bonus mistake + 5k Scout = 13k
Age = 25 +4 = 29
Scout Reenlistment DC 2: 1d20 ⇒ 8
SCOUT 2 (4th term)
Assignment: 1d20 ⇒ 16 Mission
Survive DC 6: 1d20 ⇒ 18 yep, +4,000 XP
XP Bonus DC 6: 1d20 ⇒ 16
XP Bonus: 1d4 ⇒ 3 +3,000 XP
Total = 13k + 7k Scout = 20k
Age = 29 +4 = 33
Muster Out: 1d6 ⇒ 3 +30k Cr
Muster Out: 1d6 ⇒ 3 +2 EDU
Probably classes: Navy 4 / Scout 2
Probable background: The character is Vathan's son. Vathan was 17 when the new PC was born. I have to figure out the details.
- Scout mission during the most recent 4 years
- Scout training at base the 4 years before that
- Navy training and under siege? the 4 years before that
- PSI Institute and University before that

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Replacing his 1st level Noble now his Sco is 7 with 5th Scout term
Assignment: 1d20 ⇒ 5 Base
Survive DC2 : 1d20 ⇒ 13 yes
Promotion DC22 1d20 ⇒ 10 Nope
XP Bonus: DC10 1d20 ⇒ 13 Yep
Hes now a senior scout
Stuff
Benefits 1d6 ⇒ 5 weapon or Scout Ship if senior scout adds =1 [Scout ship now X3]
Cash 1d6 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5 100,000Cr
XP Bonus: 1d6 ⇒ 1 x1000xp
Notes from the book on Scout ship,
Scouts get to pick a scout ship to use IF there are any spear
They don't Own them, because they and the Scout ship can be recalled at any time.
He is going to be Her half brother, From her fathers side. the Family once he was discovered agreed he could take the Untixiter-Lee name. He rejected a title but works with the Family's Bio-Cybernetics RnD group while being in the scout service. This was because an attack on his school in war. The Damage to his body lead to him being a subject of excremental Bio-Cybernetics, both things have meant him keeping away from the public and out of any limelight.
4 years go after deep space testing of implants exporter to hard radiation has meant him being give a fill body Prosthetic.
This prototype Bio-Cybernetic body Like himself when he sign into the scout core for life is owned by the Scout core.
He's a simple and humble man, who hates the glare publicity his name may bring him, and keeps well away from Politics. His odd body from leads other to mistrust him, as hes more Cybernetic then human now.
Hes a good pilot and is happy to take high risk missions.

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Ok worked on his stats so he has the 8 points of Con+4 an Wil=4 to have a full Bio-Cybernetic body. It dos not add that much thats not paid for with feats. Also made 3 new feats
Bio-Cybernetic Adaptation [can tolerate the Bio-Cyberware]
Bio-Cybernetic Operation [Use it with out a penalty Bio-Cybernetic]
Bio-Cybernetic reaper [Use heal on his Bio-Cybernetic body]

Vathan |

Annara/Fowki
Can you take 5 terms in Scouts? Obviously, MDT needs to clarify, but I would think 3 terms would be the maximum, because the Scout Service could barely exist 12 years ago, right?
Our last mission was 1 year long and the time jump was 10 years, so 11 years total. Could the Scout Service get reconstituted a year prior to the last mission? Remember about 8 years before that, the Marine Service had just been reconstituted.
FWIW, I had planned my character to stay in the Navy, but he failed a Reenlistment roll, so I had to switch. I picked Scouts instead of Marines for the skill points and to stay in Space.
cheers

Viktoria Ceres |

Just checking in!
I'm just going to fix up some other pbp & stuff, then I'll get rolling!
My plan is still leaning towards a science guy, going Academic -> Navy

mdt |

Good point Vathan, 2 tours of scouts max. Rest would need to be Navy or Marines or Academic or something else.
@Fowki - I'll look over the feats to approve. How are you paying for the cyernetic body?

Viktoria Ceres |

Hmm. I'm torn between (trying to make) a science officer or a more martial type. Any suggestions : )?
(I remember Ophelia mentioned Han Solo, so there might be a bit overlap on the later one. But I guess that might be a bit more Cha-based roguery ? Hmm)

Viktoria Ceres |

Could work. Was originally two a bit different concepts (regarding personality and so), but I think they may blend.
Anyone watches Archer?
Krieger might be a good role model ... :P

Viktoria Ceres |

'Krieger' - Military Scientist
Str 13
Dex 16
Con 13
Int 19
Wis 7
Cha 12
Soc 7
Edu 17
Applying human bonus into Int.
Starting as Academic, plans on going Bachelor -> Commission -> Army -> Ev higher education

Viktoria Ceres |

@mdt - Do we retain that -2 Edu we had from our backwaters world?
Academy - Bachelor's Degree
Admission DC 5/7: 1d20 + 4 + 1 ⇒ (15) + 4 + 1 = 20 success
Graduation DC 5/7: 1d20 + 4 + 1 ⇒ (11) + 4 + 1 = 16 success
Honours DC 11/13: 1d20 + 4 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 4 + 1 = 8 mwep mewp ...
OTC: Army DC 10: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (10) + 1 = 11 success
Edit: 4000 Exp gained -> Second level Academic, 21y

Viktoria Ceres |

Assignment?: 1d20 ⇒ 6 Garrison
Promotion DC 10: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5 Nope
8000 exp total, Academic 2 | Army 1 25y
Term 2
Re-enlist DC 9: 1d20 ⇒ 10 success
Assignment?: 1d20 ⇒ 14 Internal security
Survival DC 2: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5 Yes
Promotion DC 8: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (4) + 3 = 7 Nope
Decoration: 1d20 ⇒ 10 Nope
12000 exp total, Academic 2 | Army 2 29y
Term 3
Re-enlist DC 9: 1d20 ⇒ 9 success
Assigment?: 1d20 ⇒ 18 Counter insurgency
Survival DC 4: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (18) + 3 = 21 yes
Promotion DC 14: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (10) + 3 = 13 nope
Decoration DC 17: 1d20 ⇒ 6 nope
Exp bonus DC 12: 1d20 ⇒ 7 nope
16000 exp total, Academic 2 | Army 3 33y
Term 4
Re-enlist DC 9: 1d20 ⇒ 9 success
Assignment?: 1d20 ⇒ 14 Internal Security
Survival DC 2: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (3) + 3 = 6 Yes
Promotion DC 8: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5 Nope
Decoration: 1d20 ⇒ 10 Nope
20000 exp total, Academic 2 | Army 3 37y
edit: spoilerd stuff

Viktoria Ceres |

Yes, although if we do another time jump, the -2 edu will go away.
Mkay. didn't seem to affect any rolls anyhow : )

Viktoria Ceres |

Muster out rolls:
(4 terms, +1 officer)
All on material!: 5d20 ⇒ (20, 13, 19, 15, 1) = 68
Edit: Aaand it should be d6 instead of d20 ... :P
Material: 5d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 4, 6, 1) = 19
Edit2: High Passage, Low Passage and x3 Weapons. Lol :P

Viktoria Ceres |

@mdt - does Age affect either the Soc or Edu values?
Array:
Str 12
Dex 15 16 (+1 at level 4)
Con 12
Int 20
Wis 8
Cha 13
Soc 7
Edu 16 (-2, +1 at level 4) 15
edit: Gonna try and be a bit greedy :P

Viktoria Ceres |

Master's Degree!
Admission DC 11: 1d20 + 5 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 5 + 1 = 9 *deflating sound*
Aww. Oh well : )

Viktoria Ceres |

Viktoria Ceres wrote:@mdt - Do we retain that -2 Edu we had from our backwaters world?Crap, where did MDT mention that -2 EDU? I still can't find that on the Campaign Info page.
I guess I know where my floating +2 will go now.
A long time ago, when we made our first round of characters : )

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Good point Vathan, 2 tours of scouts max. Rest would need to be Navy or Marines or Academic or something else.
@Fowki - I'll look over the feats to approve. How are you paying for the cyernetic body?
EDIT,
Frustrated gone, had a better idea, MY pc is from "Lisan" system where they have had a scout service for many many years.
>How are you paying for the cyernetic body
1 Scout Ship costs how much? hehe she has two
But Ill back story in that, I am thinking a new experiment, [she will, where did that come form?] She will not own it, its part of a research project with the Mylthan. That's what I am thinking

Viktoria Ceres |

And you reminded him? ;D
It was foolish of me, of course. But I needed to know the University DCs : P

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

yep I was addressing that for
Just hit me that for Telthani that is true but not for the system of Lisan. It will be way cool to have him/her Lisan. Also can help with the cybatics idea.
Going to have to rethink PC, :)

Viktoria Ceres |

Hold on Just had an Idea.
EDIT
GM if he is "Lisan" from that system, can he have 5 terms in the scouts,
I'm going to change his background and System Race. He's from Lisan, would be cool to have someone from the other system.
Hmmhmmmm hmmmmmmmmm.
It would be sorta cool. A joint venture, like, a 'big step' for the planets relationship ?=)
Makes me think a bit or Star Trek ...
Hmm.
Hmmmmmm.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
@mdt - How would a Mylthani be handled in game terms, do they have 'proper' individuality? (edit: As in work terms, ages and such!)
Might go for one of those, just so we can have a real menagerie going :D
(And I can get stilts and be Chewbacca to Ophelia's Han Solo :P)

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Sorry you are frustrated. My life is intense right now, I'm doing the best I can.
I'll come back and reread when my brain is functioning.
Fully understand GM, the good news is we may have a great fix and a means to get all this to have an interesting outcome. A mixed crew.
With my PC from "Lisan" system, a possible Mylthani, with another han solo type from a colony, all looks sweet to me.
PS Changed my PCs Name, Sex and system of origin
Thinking she got hurt in the battle that the last mission was mixed up in. Her Cyber stuff is from that event, I like the idea its Mylthani in origin. Kind of helps to mix thing up. Now think no a full body but Sub-dermo-Armor skin and some implants, I'm thinking she got Blinded and bad skin damage in the attach the Martha McTavish witnessed. Her Implants are paid for as Veteran Prosthetics.
To be approved
Body
Bio-Cybernetic Skin and Sub-dermal Armour, TL11
Skull Implants
Bio-Cybernetic Eyes [Low light vision/Knight vision] + HUD Data Display
Sub-dermal Psi-shield Implant
Synthetic Voice Box + real time Translator
Sub-dermal Comms link + data long.

mdt |

Ok, trying not to further frustration. However...
Neither Lisan nor Telthani had scouts, as both were trapped in dead end warp points until McTavish came along.
The new Scout Corp is a common corp between the two, and there's only been time for 2 tours in that at most.
Cyberware/Bioware : If this ever comes up in game, the rules in the book for cyberware are woefully underdeveloped, and the biological mods are pretty much the same. And, most of them didn't make it into the SF20 books.
So here's how I intend to handle it.Wis Mod + Con Mod = Evolution Points
Cyberware or Bioware will be Eidelon evolutions (with me being the final arbiter on what can be gotten).
TL 10 : 1 pt Evolutions (with restrictions on a case by case basis)
TL 11 : 2 pt Evolutions (with restrictions on a case by case basis)
TL 12 : 3 pt Evolutions (with restrictions on a case by case basis)
TL 13 : 4 pt Evolutions (with restrictions on a case by case basis)For example, let's say you found a hidden TL 10 medical center hiding out on an asteroid for the last 450 years (yes I know, assume it had android doctors or something), and you want implants to give you low light vision.
Cyberware : Obvious but can be programmed to transmit to a datapad on your body for later review. Picked up on scanners 100% of time.
Bioware : Non-obvious, even to scanners, without DNA testing.
So let's say you have a Wisdom of 10, and a Con of 10. Your body and mind just can't handle the modifications, autofailure of implant.
Let's say you have a Wisdom of 14, and a Con of 8. Your body is weak, but through sheer will you can handle 1 pt of modification. So those new low-light eyes are yours.
Let's say you have a Con of 16 and a Wisdom of 16. Your body is healthy and hale, and you have a strong mind, so you can handle 6 pts worth of modifications.
Note, these would be very costly modifications. Ranging from 20,000 to 2,000,000 credits. One point mods cost 20,000 to 40,000 depending on complexity (adding extra pair of limbs is more complicated than adding claws to your hands or changing out your eyeballs). Giving you fast healing is incredibly complex and invasive (4 pts) and would cost 2,000,000 credits. Prices may be adjusted down the road.
So, looking at what Ynja wants :
To be approved
Body (Paid for as second scout ship roll, can't have scout ship more than once, unlike other ships)
Bio-Cybernetic Skin and Sub-dermal Armour, TL11 (Natural Armor 1)
Skull Implants
Bio-Cybernetic Eyes [Low light vision/Knight vision] + HUD Data Display (Low-Light Vision + Computer)
Sub-dermal Psi-shield Implant (Not available)
Synthetic Voice Box + real time Translator (+8 Racial Bonus to Linguistics)
Sub-dermal Comms link + data log. (Message Cantrip + Computer)
Body Will/Con points : Head (1), Arms (2), Legs (2), Torso (1), Eyes (1), Linguistics Implant (1) : 8 pts
Ynja will be a prototype, and likely will be skating the thin edge of cyberpsychosis. Her entire body has been modified. Arms and legs are completely replaced. Torso has extensive remodeling and contains organs necessary for life. Head replacement holds brain and ears and spinal connections. Arms and legs can take more mods eventually (with money), but unless her will or con goes up, she can't accept more organ mods or brain mods without killing herself.
Ynja will start with no cash or other personal belongings, everything else was eaten up paying medical bills before she was accepted into the cybernetics trials.

mdt |

@Ceres - Mylthani have proper individualities, like humans do, but, their outlook is more like a communal organism. While they are individuals, the whole is more than the sum of it's parts. They tend to be a lot more selfless than humans are, and unlike humans they don't tend toward criminal or violent acts on each other (that whole being part of the same collective consciousness). They agree with the spiders, humans are borderline insane, but functionally so.
A Mylthani that doesn't have a collective takes a -1 penalty on all rolls. The minimum size for a collective is 4. Telepahtic humans, with proper training, can count as a member of the collective for purposes of staving off depression in Mylthani. However, they don't provide bonuses to the Mylthani, as their brains just don't mesh well.
Mylthani are always assigned in groups of 6, or some combination that divides out to 6. Each hand has 6 fingers, and they each have 6 limbs, so obviously 6 is the perfect number. The human preoccupation with 5 and multiples of 5 is an obvious aberration. :)
If there are any Mylthani on the ship, there'll be at least 6 of them. Perfectly acceptable for them to be mostly NPCs.

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Ok GM , will would with that,
I'll look at her 1st three terms, looking to Navy
I'll keep her from that system

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Term 1
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 12 Patrol
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 17 DC2 Live
Commissioned 1d20 ⇒ 18 DC10 Commissioned Ensign
Rank Promon 1d20 ⇒ 3 DC8 Nope
Deco 1d20 ⇒ 7 DC20 nope
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 2 DC6 Nope
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 5
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 3
re-enlistments 1d20 ⇒ 6 DC6 yes
Term 2
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 9 Shore Duty
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 16 DC2 Live
Commissioned 1d20 ⇒ 13
Rank Promon 1d20 ⇒ 10 DC8 Yes Navy Lieutenant
Deco 1d20 ⇒ 12 DC19
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 9 DC8 Yes
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 3 +1Edu
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 6 X1000xp
re-enlistments 1d20 ⇒ 10 DC6 yes
Term 3
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 14 Patrol
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 13 DC2 Live [Just]
Commissioned 1d20 ⇒ 5
Rank Promon 1d20 ⇒ 2 DC8 Nope
Deco 1d20 ⇒ 1 DC19 Nope
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 8 DC8 yes
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 3 +1Edu
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 3 x1000Xp
Scout Service
Term 4
Enlistment 1d20 ⇒ 11 DC2 In
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 3 Routine
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 10 DC2 Pass
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 5 DC10 Pass
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 6 Scout Ship. {works well for the game}
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 6 x1000xp
Scout Service
Term 5
Reenlistment Auto
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 15 Special Mission [Injured]
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 19 DC8 Pass
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 12 DC6 Pass
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 3 +2Edu
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 4 x1000xp
+2 Mustering out Rolls Both on Benefits Table
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 3 +2Edu
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 2 +2Int
Well that works even better
Scout ship +6Edu +2Int Bonus 19,000xp
But she was Badly [Injured] and is now Broke with no stuff.

Ophelia Holt |

I'm going to change his background and System Race. He's from Lisan, would be cool to have someone from the other system.
I was planning on being from the other system, so we might know each other!
(And I can get stilts and be Chewbacca to Ophelia's Han Solo :P)
You could be more like barf from spaceballs. : )
(I remember Ophelia mentioned Han Solo, so there might be a bit overlap on the later one. But I guess that might be a bit more Cha-based roguer y ? Hmm)
Yes, I was intending to be a bit more Cha based.
- - - - -
Ok, putting my character together now...

Ophelia Holt |

Hey, mdt, can traits and feats be used during the characters history and class rolls (assuming that they have been earned before that roll would be made)?

Viktoria Ceres |

Totally honest?
I think Barf did more useful things on his screen-time in Spaceballs then Chewbacca ever did in Star Wars :P

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

How did you get the +2 Mustering out rolls? Maybe I can get them too.
cheers
what's you final rank?

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Ah. You only get that extra roll on the Navy mustering out table. Not the scout table.
Cheers
Next time show some respect and PM me, if your going to have a rules fight with me, right now having you play rules layer on me is killing the fun Vathan, take a deep breath, get a copy of the FULL rules and work on your PC ok. If you have a problem then PM.
So fixed
Navy
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 2 +1Int [Not +2]
Then Taking Alt human race trait
+2Int +2Con No 1st level feat.

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Ok here is Ynja short back story
I think it works
She was/is a Navy Architect [Feat taken]
She joined the Scouts to help deign the new Holt class of scout ship.
But there was an accident at the space docks, She was badly burned.
[Draw back taken] With horrific injury's the out look was grim, locked in a shell of a body, blinded, mute, death would have been better, but she has a strong will. She did not die and that's when she court the eye of Doctor Linzon Neel, stings where pulled and she was admitted in the Cyber-prosthesis, 4 years passed and she was listed as working a special mission, in fact she was a lab, by day having her body worked on, by night working on the Holt Design. It was that which kept her mind intact. Now after 6 years of hard work and training she can function. With the Hold class close to being ready, and an all clear form Doctor Linzon Neel she waits now to see if she will be picked for its 1st mission. She has nothing more to her name, Not even her body is her own, this dream to take the halt class out and push field test her Cyber-prosthesis for Doctor Linzon Neel and his team.

Aramis Ramirez |

OK Here's Vathan's son. The Background is a sketch. Equipment is Vathan's, but it's a start.
@MDT - Need your help on his background for two places:
1. In the first two years of the time jump, Aramis got Seige. He is serving as an Ensign in the Navy. I was thinking Judge Advocate General corps with his law degree, but not necessarily. He does not get promoted nor receive a commendation from the experience. However, I wanted to use the event for Vathan to realize that he has a son by seeing his mother. Please help provide some fluff if you can. The son was born when Vathan was 17 and didn't know.
2. In the immediate previous 4 years, Aramis goes a successful, as measured by bonus XP Mission. He's a psionic with a boatload of Leadership, so I'm shooting for captain, even thought Scouts have no ranks.
cheers

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

There is no 3ed Navy Term, as her 1st term is used for Belter now.
So she losses and all rolls form that last term.
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 3 +1Edu
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 3 x1000Xp
Buts she is still rank O2 as muster from the Navy.
She gets one tern of Belter as her starting background, Linked to history.
Belter
Assignment 1d20 ⇒ 7 Contract work [With Family]
Survival 1d20 ⇒ 1 DC9-8 [cr*p that was close - Wounded]
Cash benefit 1d20 ⇒ 19 DC20 Fail
Bonus XP 1d20 ⇒ 19 DC14+8 Fail
No risks taken, takes +8 to Bonus XP DC to moved to -8 to Survival as per rules P125
Benefits Table 1d6 ⇒ 5 TAS membership Cr10,000 year trust fund from insurance payout.
Bonus XP 1d6 ⇒ 3
Term 4000Xp+1000Xp wounded.

mdt |

Aramis would have been involved in a confrontation with Speciesists, that is, a group of people who objected to the Mylthani being given the Masterston Colony. It came to armed insurrection at one point, but didn't quite break into complete warfare this time.
Instead, there were embargoes and trade restrictions on the clans involved. The siege was basically a prolonged military backed embargo that eventually resulted in some concessions about the Mylthani (not allowed to own land on Telthani, and Telthani being paid 10% of the Masterston GPD for 100 years). Aaramis would not have distinguished himself one way or the other, he was just a cog in the JAG corp, sometimes defending, other times prosecuting.
Scouts don't bother with ranks, just positions. Captain is a position, not a rank, much like in the Navy. The scouts were, until recently, dispatched to the various recently found systems only, with the job of doing scans and furthering the scanty knowledge that the McTavish gathered. He likely, with an EXP bonus, learned a great deal, faced some adversities (ship issues, and the like), but nothing worth a medal or promotion. So, all in all, Aramis has come across to his superiors as solid and dependable, if not someone you expect greatness or innovation from. Just the type to put on a crew to explore the unexplored systems.
@All - You'll want to start naming the warp points that have some sort of significance. Binary systems are usually refueling points. The planet with the life forms in the gas giant, the frozen life bearing planet's system, and so on.

Ynja Eva Ragnavold |

Ok she is done, and I like her, she's had a hard life, A child of space who knows how hard space can be. She hold's little bruck with Rank, being a belter and a scout. She is very strong willed.She had to be to live thought whats she has. A bit of a loner, keeping herself to herself, she is an introvert by nature.