Aramis, note you're only allowed 2 muster out rolls on cash, if that makes a difference. The rest have to be materials.
Yes, TL 11 is now cutting edge.
TL 9 : Normal 80% Price, MW 150%
TL 10 : Normal 100% Price, MW 200%
TL 11 : Normal 150% Price, MW 300%
Note, the percentages are of book price. So if the book price of a TL11 tech is $100, the normal prices is $150 and the MW version is $300
@EXP - Use the SciFi 20 numbers.
OK. Profile relatively done, including equipment.
GM is Use Alien Device still not available at start?
Would each systems tech count as Alien or say the Mylthani's tech.
UAD can now be picked up.
It would only apply to Mylthani for now, although exposure to another alien race would open it up (as you begin learning how to think like other aliens, rather than just Mylthani).
@Ships - Since two people have ships, we'll go with each of them being Holt's 2-3 person ships that she designed. They'll be Holt Class ships.
The main exploration fleet will consist of four Task Groups.
Each Task Group will consist of the following :
1 Exploration Vessel (with 2 parasite craft) that is incapable of landing.
1 Fuel Ship (specialized for refueling from gas giants)
1 Cargo Ship (hauling additional supplies)
Each Task Group will be assigned a warp point to explore and catalog. For the PCs group, their personal ships can replace the parasite craft that are normally assigned to the exploration vessel.
I'll work up the exploration vessel shortly.
The Exploration Fleet is a joint command fleet. The first between Liran and Telthani and Mylthani.
I'll get the ship stats/pictures posted up later tonight, and a first post up.
Here is the ship as I wrote it up before.
It was meant for a crew of 1-2, but could seat 4-6 with a bit of hotbunking, or maybe 12-16 if cargo space is turned into bunks.
Rook Mk 1 - Mobile Science Outpost
The Rook class of vessels are designed to be small, fast, and self sufficient. Taking no more space than a standard shuttle, the vessel is packed with instruments and equipment to allow a small crew of one or two to travel to remote locations for research and reconnaissance. The vessel flies just as well in an atmosphere as it does in space, has the ability to refine fuel for itself or any carried vehicles, and has a number of small workshops to assist in any equipment maintenance or repairs.
In addition, the top-of-the-line computer is preloaded with research materials to assist in planetary analysis, though it is only capable of loading a few such datastores at one time. Personal devices may be linked to the central computer for remote access to its databanks, as well as to request long range sensor and comms support. The ship has an auto-pilot capable of creating and following intricate flight paths, as well as assisting with evasive maneuvers and defensive countermeasures should unfriendly circumstances present themselves.
Finally, the front attached mining laser can be used to assist in gathering material samples, and a small cargo bay provides room to store equipment, samples, or other gathered materials.
Class: Small Spacecraft
Tech Level 9
Size: Small (95 tons)
Streamlining: Streamlined, Airframe
Jump Range: None
Acceleration: 4-G
Fuel: 17.3 tons
Duration: 2 weeks
Crew: 1 required, 2 comfortably.
Staterooms: 1 (2 small cabins, galley, refresher, exercise room)
Couches: 2
Cargo Space: 16.3 tons
-Atmospheric Speeds-
NoE: 1400 kph
Cruising: 4200 kph
Maximum: 5600 kph
EP Output: 3.8
Agility: 4 (+4 EP)
Initiative: +4 (+4 Agility)
AC: 15 (+4 Agility, +1 Size) [+2 via Auto/Evade]
Repulsors: None
Nuclear Dampers: None
Meson Screens: None
Black Globes: None
AR: 0
SI: 98
Main Computer: Model/3
Sensor Range: Medium (Model/3)
Comm. Range: Medium (Model/3)
-Other Equipment-
Fuel Scoops
Fuel Refinery
Small Lab
Small Engineering Bay
Small Vehicle Bay
Hardpoint - Mining Laser (d6, 15000km Range)
Cost: MCr 71.22 (new)
-Computer-
Int: 7
Edu: 9
Computer Programs:
High Basic Logic (5 PP)
Basic Verbal Commands (5 PP)
Library Data (1 PP)
Server (3 PP)
Auto/Evade (1 PP)
ECM (3 PP)
Anti-Hijack (1 PP)
K/Biology 10 (10 PP)
K/Chemistry 10 (10 PP)
K/Geology 10 (10 PP)
K/Physics 10 (10 PP)
K/Planetology 10 (10 PP)
Navigation 12 (12 PP)
Pilot 12 (12 PP)
T/Comms 12 (Bootstrapped) (12 PP)
T/Sensors 12 (Bootstrapped) (12 PP)
As for my position on ship, I imagine it best as Seneschal, and maybe as a negotiator.
Cool ship, halt, wish it had jump 1 thou
With out its really just a mining systems boat,
As where around tech 10 in would look to swop things out the ship to get J1
GM
I like the idea of a mini fleet,
Delta Star class exploratory vessel added to the campaign info tab, and the pictures at the top.
It has two boat bays, each capable of holding 400 tons worth of shipping. Holt's ships take up 95 tons each. They work good as system exploration adjucts. Each has the same acceleration as the base craft (4-G = 400 G).
If someone doesn't want one of Holt's ships as their personal craft, I'll work up something else that's small, possibly with Jump 1 on it.
Yeah, the problem with the jump engine is that you have to at least be bigger than a 'small craft' before you can actually have a jump engine.
Also, the engine and fuel weights shoot the ship size WAY up, especially if you want to keep up a high speed, because as you add weight you have to increase the thrust of the engines, which requires more power plants, which requires more fuel, which increases the weight again, etc.
I looked at putting a jump engine on it, but there was no way that I saw to keep the speed and size reasonable. I could either make it huge and fast, or small and slow.
The original idea for the Rook class was to load several of them into another ship 'carrier style', have it jump into a system, and then launch the Rooks to go check stuff out and set up independent comms/spy/scout/research/command camps.
Except for food, the ships can run indefinitely by themselves and have the ability to passively scan comms and sensors without an operator, even if the rest of the ship is turned off. It can fly itself with 12 ranks in Pilot and it also has HUGE comm and sensor ranges for its size.
That said, it is definitely not a combat ship.
Well, not indefinately, it still needs fuel. Just a long time.
Well, yes, but if there is water or a gas giant, it can refine its own fuel. And you can save some fuel by turning off everything except the life support (and minimal computer power) and letting it cruise once it hits a good clip, since the sensors and comms can alert the crew when they reach their destination.
Food... must... eat... captain...
Already covered in my first statement about it. : )
...
Except for food, the ships can run indefinitely by themselves...
I have the mogouse books Laz who wrote them is a mate of mine,there is a small jump capable scout in there, she is also a navy arcethect I'll see what I have.
So we all go as a group into system that's being explored.
Or, you know, you put the smaller ships in the bigger ship's boat bays, and jump in and then scatter or whatever.
@mdt - Bumping the pair of questions I had for this character:
Are laser pistols fair game : )?
@mdt - Repeated questions (for ease of reference):
Are some Pathfinder Feats okay?
Namely: Defiant Luck, Inexplicable Luck and Strong Comeback?
@Holt/Ivan
Interested in a loan? My interest rates are very reasonable...
Is this offer on the table for the rest of us ?
Cat turned out quite poor :P
My idea if the clasic S class scout, with some small changes to suit game GM, I just loved the old type ship, simple design, adaptable and a real feel of being out there scouting.
Changes I think
lose the raft, and put in a Space mining Pod.
Up the computer,
Drop the J2 for J1,
Suit Tech level at the game systems level. T9/T10
Don't know about weapons turret, mining laser may work better, but then again if we have a ship that dos that already a ship that could attack, don't know that's a Scout service call.
May lose a room/or cargo space and put in a Cyber-netics bunk/workspace.
If she lives on it on her own, she may re-task all the spear rooms to mining lab, 2ed storeroom and work space.
100t classic Scoutship (S class) as per the book
updated scoutship S class deck plans and info In 3d ignore stats
This is what I am thinking of, it may be her own design or a design she has re-used.
All this is with you GM I will go with your final call on ships and you know what will work best with your game. :)
@Holt/Ivan
Interested in a loan? My interest rates are very reasonable...Is this offer on the table for the rest of us ?
Cat turned out quite poor :P
Sure. Any player interested can take a single loan of 10,000 credits.
Assuming they agree to the following contract:
LOAN AGREEMENT
1. Parties: The undersigned is ______________________, the Borrower, and the Lender is Ivan Lazarev.
2. Date of Agreement: ________________________________________________.
3. Promise to Pay: Within Thirty-Six (36) months from today, Borrower promises to pay to Lender Ten Thousand credits (10,000 cr) and interest and other charges stated below.
4. Responsibility: Although this agreement may be signed below by more than one person, each of the undersigned understand that they are each as individuals responsible and jointly and severally liable for paying back the full amount.
5. Breakdown of Loan: Borrower will pay:
Amount of Loan: 10,000 cr
Finance charge: 500 cr
ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE 15%
6. Repayment: Borrower will repay in the following manner: Borrower will repay the amount of this note in monthly installments of Two Hundred and Fifty credits (250 cr) each on the first day of each month starting on the first day of _______, for a term of 3 years or until the loan has been repaid. If the loan has not been repaid after three years from the issue date then Borrower and Lender may attempt to renegotiate the terms of a continued loan. If no terms can be agreed upon, then Borrower is to repay the entirety of the remaining unpaid balance of the loan.
7. Prepayment: Borrower has the right to prepay the whole outstanding amount at any time.
8. Late Charge: Any installment not paid within ten (10) days of its due date shall be subject to a late charge of 10% of the payment.
9. Security: To protect Lender, should Borrower need to leave the collective space of the Mylthani, Lysandrian, or Telthani people, then the Borrower agrees to arrange direct payment from their employer such as to pay at least the minimum required payments.
10. Default: If for any reason Borrower fails to make any payment on time, Borrower shall be in default. The Lender can then demand immediate payment of the entire remaining unpaid balance of this loan, without giving anyone further notice. Should Borrower be found in default twice within the terms of the loan, then the annual percentage rate will be increased to 30%.
11. Right of Offset: If this loan becomes past due, the Lender will have the right to pay this loan from any deposit or security Borrower has with this lender without notice to him/her.
If the Lender gives Borrower an extension of time to pay this loan, he/she still must repay the entire loan.
12. Collection fees: If this note is placed with an attorney for collection, then Borrower agrees to pay an attorney's fee of fifteen percent (15%) of the unpaid balance. This fee will be added to the unpaid balance of the loan.
13. Co-borrowers: Any Co-borrowers signing this agreement agree to be equally responsible with the borrower for this loan.
Agreed To:
______________________________
Lender
______________________________
Borrower
______________________________
Borrower
Note, that I'm even throwing in a discounted interest rate in the spirit of good will!
Yikes that a lone and a bit,
but it could be a good way for your PC to have a free ride on the trip.
Hope the GM and Family are well.
With the Jump Scout, it would not be as fast as the Holt Class.
Its tonnage is 100dt, just in the range to get the Jump 1
but each jump is 5t's of fuel, out of 25t tank.
T10/T11 means a cut back on some things.
It's not that bad. The Credit Line feat says that 5% interest is a "very low interest rate".
In the US at least, payday loans are usually 25-40%, depending on legal limitations. And credit cards charge up to ~30%.
And remember, I require no co-signers or collateral.
Besides, it's not like we tend to receive our pay directly while we're out exploring, so I won't even get the benefits until we return home.
Do you think the GM would let us do some pre game posts, so we can get a feel of out pcs before they meet.?
Sorry Goings just got a contract to go on a bossiness trip for a week, fly out tonight, bit of a rush, going to be hopping on and off planes, so no idea if and wgphen I can post.
fast one
Post in all games :
Wife's surgery got moved back a day (scheduling issues in OR). Surgery was completed last night, went smoothly, doctor very pleased with himself. :) Wife awake and says even with the pain from the surgery it's a night and day difference in how she felt before, so good news on that front. I'm afraid I'll be busy again today, but hopefully will be able to get all games caught up and going again by end of week.
Best of helth to the lady wife GM, take all the time you need,
Yes, I hope the recovery is swift and complete : )
@Em drive - I think I saw something about it earlier, lemme have a look ...
@Loan - Hmm. Would it be okay to only borrow 5000 Creds and claim that the rest have already been paid/worked off?
@Cat - I'll post her backstory any day now, I swear :P
edit: There! A few posts to dig trough, but IIRC the people working on it should be there somewhere :P
Laser pistols are fine...
Defiant Luck, Inexplicable Luck and Strong Comeback are fine
Please make suggestions for your ship's name.
I'll take the suggestion I like best.
@Loan - Hmm. Would it be okay to only borrow 5000 Creds and claim that the rest have already been paid/worked off?
Sure. 5000 creds paid off after say, half the loan term. That leaves around 6k left after interest. Not that it will really matter in the long run.
Rubs hands together...
And I, too, intend to have my backstory and equipment up soon.
- - - - -
Ship Names:
* Outward Bound
* Stargazer
* Wanderer
* Eldren Rolverna
Possible Ship names,
for her S class scout ship
SEV = Small Exploration Vehicle
SEV "Inquisitive Look"
SEV "Sneaky Friend"
SEV "Grace and full of joy
SEV "Working off debts"
SEV "Happy go Lucky"
Large ship
LEV = Large Exploration Vehicle
LEV "Just passing thought"
LEV "Hay good Looking"
LEV "I'm Bigger on the inside"
If someone doesn't want one of Holt's ships as their personal craft, I'll work up something else that's small, possibly with Jump 1 on it.
Yep Ynja will ask that her self designed and personal jump 1 Scout S Class be taken on the trip. She will use it as her Cybernetics berth and Cybernetics workshop away from the big ships crew. Its not as fast as a Holt class, systems exploration craft. It meant for more risky deeper exploration missions at much greater range. The idea is the team can use it should they need a ship for that kind of work and a place to stay while other teams take out a the Holts.
The "Inquisitive Look" 100T, S class Scout ship, Jump 1.
Hmm. Speech. I'll whip something together : )
@feats/loan nice : )
@Names - hmm
Since I listened to the War of Worlds recently - Thunderchild <- but I think I want to keep this one for Cats ship : )
For the utility, She is one of ours, Sir! is hard to beat...
Are sorry I thought we where a small team crew to a bigger ship, so we are THE command crew to the big ship, got you. She's really the 1st officers them
I'll keep her post as is the caption can put her strate on her full rol,
Good bad news as 30 in one place my freak her out just as 500 is now
I have guests at the moment, so I havn't managed to find the piece of mind to finish up either my backstory or compose a speech yet, sadly.
However, they are leaving tonight (~8h) so hopefully I will have some calm thinking time by then : )
Said guests lingered a bit longer then planned, so the grand speech will be mostly imaginary (or, perhaps it might materialize tomorrow. Not sure). I did not finish Cat's background either, but I did managed to give her a surname : )
Ceres out : )!
how is ever one?
Good, but I have a bit on my plate at the moment. Got a trio of tests coming up, so my mind is - sadly - a bit preoccupied (last one is on the 12th of June, so not too far away).
I think I'll just dump Cat in there and take it from there : )
how is ever one?
Fine. Enjoying a beautiful spring day. I PMed Holt a few days ago.
I read Michael Hicks' First Contact to get in the mood
cool, did we decide what to call the ship,
Like the name "Wanderlust" myself
Sorry. That family member I was taking care of passed away earlier this week and it has been... hectic dealing with everything related to that.
I am still here though.
I'm truly sorry for your loss. Didn't mean to push. Take the time you need.
Gear
Masterwork Advanced Cloth Armor (and Court Clothing) x1 - 5750
- +6 hidden compartment x1 - 2000
Masterwork Small Steel Shield (w/family crest) x1 - 13.5
Masterwork Saber (cutlass) (w/family crest) x1 - 160
Masterwork Blade x1 - 80
Masterwork Dagger x1 - 16
Masterwork Autopistol x1 - 300
Laser Dot Pointer x1 - 200
Ammo x2 - 20
Masterwork Body Pistol x1 - 300
Laser Dot Pointer x1 - 200
Masterwork Hand Computer x1 - 3000
Personal HUD (Monocle) x1 - 1600
- Attach Hand Computer x1 - 400
- Attach Personal Com x1 - 400
Advanced Digital Camera x1 - 400
Cold Light Lantern x1 - 16
Wrist Watch x1 - 250
Personal Communicator x1 - 200
Masterwork Backpack (also bivvypack) x1 - 160
- +6 hidden compartment x1 - 2000
Medical Drug x5 - 400
Truth Serum x4 - 1600
Recreational Drugs x? 200
Masterwork Appraisal Tools?
Masterwork Handcuffs (Break 30, Pick 30) x2 - 75
Combination Viewer x1 - 1200
Atache Case x1 - 60
Masterwork Lockpick Set x1 - 15
Light Cloth (And Formal Clothing) x1 - 740
Light Cloth (And Professional Clothing) x1 - 540
Masterwork Advanced Armored Cloth (And Professional Clothing) x1 - 1050
Total Cost: 14,028 cr
Credits Remaining: 50,972
I'm truly sorry for your loss. Didn't mean to push. Take the time you need.
Thank you. And no offense was taken.
Condolences. :(
Condolences. :(
It's part of life. And I appreciate the sentiment.
Condolences to
Sad to say I know to well how it feels to lose a family member.
I hope all is well outside of that.