Legacy of Fire, already stated above (in the "first round")
Kingmaker followed by Legacy of Fire.
Updating rankings cause at this point it's what I do. xP
Current Rankings
Kingmaker- 9/6
Jade Regent- 10/7
Serpent's Skull- 5/3
Legacy of Fire- 6/4
Reminder first number is top two choices while second number is top single choice.
Kingmaker as my choice but I will happily apply to play in any of the final contenders.
Tough choice.
I'd love a Jade Regent myself.
Kingmaker is one I've been interested in, but its been cutthroat to apply
I'd like to play Legacy of Fire. I have a Suli-Jann Paladin of Sarenrae I'm dying to play again...He was in a LOF game that the GM disappeared.
Drevil if you'd like to run it I'd join in a minute.
Legacy of Fire
Kingmaker or Jade Regent.
Kingmaker all the way!
Always wanted to try Kingmaker, who doesn't fancy the idea of their character helping to rule a nation!?
:)
Just had a kingmaker recuitment...i didnt get in
Still, my choice is not an option, but if i had to choose, i would guess probably legacy of fire
Calling it a night in my part of the world, enjoy what could be the last rankings. At least from me, before the judgment falls. ;P
Current Rankings
Kingmaker- 15/12
Jade Regent- 12/8
Serpent's Skull- 5/3
Legacy of Fire- 10/7
Looks like Kingmaker is swinging hard in the last quarter. Reminder again first number is top two choices while second number is top single choice.
I vote for Legacy of Fire
Kingmaker would be my vote.
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Jade event and legacy of fire fought hard but in the end it's good to be the king, which is why Kingmaker won.
I'm thinking we'll do about 10-15 players to get the ball rolling. Kingmaker's open map allows multiple groups to romp around the same environment. So the standard creation rules. 20 point ability buy. Two traits, one from the campaign book. I'm fairly permissive when it comes to races but keep in mind this is Brevoy you're starting in.
You all seem like experienced players so for now I'm going to choose to trust you, since I have never run a pbp on this site, and defer to your knowledge of how such things are usually done.
One thing I do want to do with this campaign is enlarge the role your patrons play in the game. As written they just sort of form an anonymous cadre that sets you on your way. In this case I want to actually foster a relationship with these groups, know who they are and what it is they want of you. I want you to keep in contact with them and send them reports of your progress. Each of you will be encouraged to come up with who your patron is. The noble houses of Brevoy are obvious choices, but I trust you are also familiar with agencies outside Brevoy that might have an interest in gaining a foothold in the region. You will each have the opportunity to create an arrangement with your patrons individually, following that you may wish to team up to increase your chances of success.
I look forward to seeing what you have in mind.
awwww nuts.
Well yo uguys have a great time! I would not feel right playing, since I am already in a game
I'll pass on kingmaker. Have fun guys.
Kingmaker is an awesome AP. I hope we can get the ball rolling.
ok now the dilems.
submit the same character that did not get selected for a kingmaker game just 2 days ago
or open a second table of my homebrew game
Well this is my kingmaker alias so everything is in the profile. I will need to look over it to make sure things match up. Will also work on fluffing up the patron aspect a bit. I see there is already another Orlovsky besides me. Greetings cousin. ;P
@Mardavig
Can we take drawbacks? Currently I have one which is why I ask.
I agree, the twists do add a little wrinkle that should ripple out in very interesting ways. It should give more weight to the political aspect of the campaign that so often goes ignored. I'm looking forward to see how this turns out.
EDIT: And the Swordlords have already begun to pour in. Competition is going to get fierce.
One of the posters/voters here, with an already pre-prepared character for a Kingmaker AP (was in another gane which simply dissolved). I'd say that relationship with the mentor (Medvyed family) is pretty well defined, but if needed I can easily expand.
Will there be a separate thread with creation rules or...?
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Thank you for your questions, and thank you hustonj for pointing out those details.
For now we will continue on this post, as recruitment is not actually closed. Also people have already posted things here. This weekend I will create the campaign page and we'll move over there on Monday.
I have no problem with people resubmitting characters form previous attempts at playing Kingmaker. So long as there is some link to a patron. I will communicate with each of you to inform you of what your patron expects of you.
For starting funds I am going to say take half of the max as determined by your class.
Legal sources I'm going to say no psionics, no mythic. I'm fine with pretty much everything else. I like inner sea magic, so you are free to use that stuff, so long as it makes sense for your character. I would say that is my guideline in general. I can't think of anything else I'd specifically outlaw, but feel free to run it past me if you are uncertain.
Starting HP Max at first. Half plus 2 thereafter.
Alignment Go nuts.
Drawbacks Fine by me, but don't forget about them. a drawback you don't actually play will quickly come back to bite you, courtesy of me.
I'm fine with exotic races. and i'm fine with a passel of swordlords.
I see we already have two Orlovskys. Is there any connections between Lorald and Josef?
Interested in playing a Medvyed Druid of Erastil, will submit his build and background as soon as i finished it (here or in the new campaign page on Monday)
I would be fine with another Orlovsky, I think it would make interactions interesting depending on where they stand on things. ;)
Seems I don't need to change anything for Lorald, let me know if I do. Open to friendly suggestions too.
If I may, want to submit a character for kingmaker. My idea:
Adopted Drow. Soulstar Sorceress. Into Astronomy.
Well there is another Erastil follower, we could have team orlovsky, Team Erastil?
*forgotten about* :p
Hmm, I went with a Nature Oracle on the last very-recently-closed Kingmaker recruitment thread, but the requested emphasis on a patron would actually make my original concept of an Evangelist make more sense. Must think on it!
well here was my submission from the kingmaker game that just closed (same one Lady Ladile applied for)
White Eagle
Human Shaman 1
N Medium humanoid (human)
Init +3; Senses Perception +3 (+5 familiar nearby)
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Defense
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AC 15, touch 13, flat-footed 12 (+2 armor, +3 Dex)
hp 12 (1d8+4)
Fort +1, Ref +1, Will +5
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Melee shortspear +2 (1d6+2) and
. . unarmed strike +2 (1d3+2)
Ranged sling +1 (1d4+2)
Shaman Spells Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +4):
1st—cure light wounds, magic stone
(1/day) charm animal [S] (DC 14)
0 (at will)—detect magic, know direction, stabilize
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Statistics
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Str 14, Dex 12, Con 12, Int 12, Wis 17, Cha 12
Base Atk +0; CMB +2; CMD 13
Feats Totem Spirit - Shriikirri-Quah (Hawk Clan), Toughness
Traits devotee of the green, pioneer
Skills
- Diplomacy +5
- Handle Animal +5
- Heal +9
- Knowledge (geography) +6
- Knowledge (nature) +6
- Perception +3 (+5 familiar nearby
- Ride +8
- Sense Motive +3 (+5
familiar nearby
- Survival +7
Languages Common, Other Language
SQ spirits (nature)
Gear Healer's kit (10/10 uses remaining), leather armor, shortspear, sling, sling
bullets (10), belt pouch, falconry gauntlet, fetish, tribal, flint and steel, sack, spell
component pouch, tobacco (2), 7 GP, 4 SP, 7 CP
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TRACKED RESOURCES
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Healer's kit - 0/10
Shortspear - 0/1
Sling bullets - 0/10
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Special Abilities
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Empathic Link with Familiar (Su) You have an empathic link with your Arcane Familiar.
Familiar Bonus: +3 to sight-based Perception checks in bright light You gain the
Alertness feat while your familiar is within arm's reach.
Share Spells with Familiar Can cast spells with a target of "You" on the familiar with
a range of touch.
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Sikem
Horse
N Large animal
Init +2; Senses low-light vision, scent; Perception +6
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Defense
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AC 11, touch 11, flat-footed 9 (+2 Dex, -1 size)
hp 15 (2d8+6)
Fort +6 (+4 vs. hot or cold environments and to resist damage from suffocation), Ref
+5, Will +1
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Offense
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Speed 50 ft.
Melee 2 hooves -2 (1d4+1) and
. . unarmed strike +3 (1d4+3)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
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Statistics
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Str 16, Dex 14, Con 17, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 7
Base Atk +1; CMB +5; CMD 17 (21 vs. trip)
Feats Endurance, Run
Tricks Come [Trick], Heel [Trick], Riding [Trick], Stay [Trick]
Skills Perception +6
SQ riding
Other Gear bedroll, bit and bridle, mess kit, riding saddle, saddlebags, tent, small,
torch (3), waterskin (2)
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TRACKED RESOURCES
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Torch - 0/3
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Special Abilities
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Endurance +4 to a variety of fort saves, skill and ability checks. Sleep in L/M armor
with no fatigue.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and
detail.
Riding [Trick] The animal has been trained to bear a rider.
Run Run 5x your speed in light/medium armor or 4x speed in heavy armor and keep Dex
when running.
Scent (Ex) Detect opponents within 15+ feet by sense of smell.
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Elangomat
Eagle
N Tiny magical beast (animal)
Init +3; Senses low-light vision; Perception +14
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Defense
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AC 16, touch 15, flat-footed 13 (+3 Dex, +2 size, +1 natural)
hp 6 (1d8)
Fort +2, Ref +5, Will +4
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Offense
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Speed 10 ft., fly 60 ft. (average)
Melee 2 talons +5 (1d4-2) and
. . unarmed strike +5 (1-2)
Space 2 ft.; Reach 0 ft.
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Statistics
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Str 6, Dex 17, Con 11, Int 6, Wis 14, Cha 7
Base Atk +0; CMB +1; CMD 9
Feats Weapon Finesse
Skills Diplomacy -1, Handle Animal -1, Heal +3, Perception +14, Ride +4, Survival +3;
Racial Modifiers +8 Perception
SQ improved evasion, spirit familiar (nature)
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TRACKED RESOURCES
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. . -none-
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Special Abilities
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Flight (60 feet, Average) You can fly!
Improved Evasion (Ex) No damage on successful reflex save; half on failed save.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and
detail.
Spirit Familiar (Nature) Move through undergrowth without harm/slowing & no Fly
penalties up to windstorm strength.
Backstory:
Arcadia, the mysterious continent, lies across the Arcadian sea. A place of mystery and
wonder; Centuries ago Ulfen settlers called Arcadia their new home, until the natives took offence to their presence and nearly drove them from their home.
The native tribes called skraelings by the Ulfen settlers were considered savage and ruthless. But this I can tell you is not entirely true.
I am White Eagle, son of Ten Bears, and I am a skraeling. Though I was not born on the land my ancestors once called home My Father and I have held to the teachings passed down to us by my father’s father and his father before him. I am of the Defohy tribe, Nomads always moving with the changing seasons making our home in the plains of Arcadia in places where our horses may graze and the fish are abundant.
The Defohy depended on the land for their survival. The earth and rivers provided roots and berries, fish and game. Farming and land ownership were foreign to the Defohy. They believed (and still do today) the earth was not to be disturbed by hoe and plow. The land was their home, not a commodity to be bought or sold.
Chief Yellow Wolf, a relative of Chief Ten Bears said, “We were always here. The Great Spirit placed us on this land of ours.” Many miles south of the Ulfen settlement others from your world also journeyed to Arcadia.
Settlers, seeking trees, animals and metals came to our home. These settlers moved into land we have journeyed to for countless generations. We sought to make peace with the newcomers and many of them welcomed us. We showed the settlers how to farm the soil in Arcadia and where to hunt good food. The Ulfen were friends. My people called all who came to our land as Ulfen as we had no concept of the different races of other lands. To us what you call elf was called spirit beings that were as mysterious to us as our home is to you.
Not all settlers who came to our home were friend. Bad Ulfen, I have learned were called Cheliax in your tongue, came to take gold from the hills and mountains of Arcadia. They enslaved many skraeling to dig the gold from the earth.
My ancestors became scattered and many were sent on ships to Cheliax home. Among them was my grandfather Chief Charlo, whose wife was with child. My father was the first of the skraelings to be born on this new world.
My father was strong and it is said that he had the strength of a bear and would do the work of ten men and so was given the name Ten Bears. Ten Bears was a slave like all the skraelings brought over to Cheliax.
However the Great Spirit saw what was happening to the people of Arcadia and took pity on them. Many skraelings were freed when guardians of freedom who bore the sign of the eagle freed our people.
Ten Bears lead a small group of Defohy north until we found land to call home in what is called Restov Plains. There. Our people prospered living peacefully on the plains and many new Defohy were born. Ten Bears took a wife and bore a son, White Eagle.
For many years my people lived freely on the Rostov plains, trading goods with the settlements in this new land. My brother, Swift Elk, would lead hunting parties and trade furs with other Ulfen hunters and trappers.
Soon though Cheliax warriors would try and destroy the peace my people have created. (Note Cheliax is the name given to all human bandits, brigands, or other unsavory types, including warlords). Many disguised as Defohy attacked and scalped local Brevoy villagers.
Trust of the local villages and settlements was beginning to deteriorate. Ten Bears journeyed to the Ulfen city of Restov to plead the case of our people.
The Mayor agreed to a treaty with Ten Bears. The Defohy people would provide one of their own and explore the place called the Stolen Lands and there the Defohy could go and make a new home. And in return the people of Restov would assist and help protect the Defohy people. During this time White Eagle had recently returned from his journey of the Wyakin to receive his guardian spirit. White Eagle had a vision while alone that he would be a great leader of his people guiding them to new lands and better hunting grounds. White Eagle was to go to fulfill Ten Bears promise to the Chief of Restov.
The Defohy have a strong belief in dreams and visions. Young boys and girls went alone to remote places hoping to receive knowledge of a personal guardian spirit. This personal WYAKIN would warn them of danger and give them special powers. In all phases of daily life, the Defohy thought of the spirits of forces and objects around them as supernatural WYAKIN
Here is my submission. His background is spoilered after his stat block. There are other backgrounds for other campaigns but please ignore them.
If he is chosen, I might make a few alterations before the game starts.
While there were no obvious connections between Josef, Lorald and Lelouch, they aren't hard to imagine.
Looking over what's in Lelouch's profile, nothing jumps out at me for a simple, direct connection. Frankly, I don't know that I want to be connected to a character who manifests divine power from worshiping himself.
Looking over Lorald's story, depending on how old he wants to be, he could still be a young adult as a half-elf and his mother could be Mariah (whether I need to change the name or not), the spinstress Aunt who set Josef on his path. That would make Mikael Lorald's grandfather. The bit in my story about her death would be altered to fit Lorald's vision for his character's mother, of course.
I should look at adding the drawback back to the character, and need to revisit the money spent, because I think your numbers will be the smallest I've been asked to use while equipping a fighter. Not a complaint, just an identification of the challenge.
Oh, and, this is hustonj, just in case.
Edit: Changing the Campaign Trait made the money difference almost invisible. It just changed how much pocket change he started with. That worked because there are 2 campaign traits that suit the character concept, though. It won't be as easy for everyone.
I could also join as a kitsune sorcerer. Just read the books of the serrated edge and the kitsune are soooo awesome!
Submitting Dregan for consideration. I wrote him for another another campaign so have explicitly stated connections, I've left them in but can remove if you prefer.
As for patrons, I was thinking of the church of Erastil it would be a slight rewrite he went to them for help and was directed towards the charter group. however I am open to other possibilities if you have suggestions.
Just letting you know I playing in another game of Kingmaker but that one has been HEAVILY modified for people who have already played Kingmaker so shouldn't spoil plot too much. I live in Australia so tend to post in US evening-night.
@Lelouch
Lelouch's background kinda cuts him off from the Orlovsky family for most of his life, up to the point of the start of the adventure. Big obstacle to overcome. Also paints them or at least the current head, which is not official PF, as somewhat evil in my opinion. Conflicts with a lot of things concerning the Orlovsky family, seems like it is more suited to House Surtova really. Throw in the fact that Lelouch worships himself and seems bent on leadership, that could be an issue with Lorald considering his faith and own backstory.
@Josef
Lorald is 24 but as a half elf fighter I could reduce it to 22. Which would put him 4 years older then Josef. Small enough gap I think for them to have spent some time with each other before Josef went to the swordlord school. They both favor agility over strength so could incorporate that in as well. Noticed your stats are 25-point buy unless I am mistaken, this game is 20-point buy. Let me know what you think.
Hmm? 25 point instead of 20 point? May be. Didn't check. Guess I need to clean that up, too.
I was actually thinking about the possibility of Lorald being OLDER, not younger. <g> Either way works.
Edit: Yep. Pretty clearly a 25 point buy. Time to cut that back, then.
Edit 2: Fixed, I think. I THINK I caught all the secondary calculations, too. Acitvely avoiding Dump Stats meant it was better to drop the 18 to a 16 (after racial adjustment) to get that 5 points back.
Well I was thinking they would need to cross paths before Josef went to swordlord school sense after that he only returned for three days before he was off to the stolen lands. If Lorald was older he would be in the field not spending his time with a kid. So I figure two kids would be more likely to spend time with each other. Maybe Josef picked a fight with Lorald and found out he got his butt kicked by someone faster rather then stronger so when his aunt took interest he was more inclined towards speed and grace already. xP
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I would love to get in on a google/skype type confernce call game on a saturday or sunday night. Looking to play a monk with a couple arch types that mat over each other really well. Something evil would be fun too or reluctant heroish. Down for whatever.
I don't want to sound like a jerk but you obviously did not read any of the thread. This is pbp and has been decided it is kibgmaker
While direct interaction and involvement is good, a true connection between them doesn't require such. There are lots of connections between people in the real world where the people have limited direct interaction until . . ..
I'm good either way, though.
So, I was finishing the build when I read this:
For starting funds I am going to say take half of the max as determined by your class.
It's ok that in this way the funds are less than the average of normal class? (e.g. the druid average is 70gp, the half is 60gp)
What about the traits that alter this, as the Rich Parents trait? Do you allow them?
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I am fine with people starting out with less gold, since in many cases your patrons may provide whatever you are missing, so long as it qualifies as necessary to the mission.
Rich Parents et al. are fine. I have already okayed them for people who have a reason for having them.
I think this kind of mission would be right up Erastil's alley. The 'church' of Erastil could easily sponsor a delegation. They don't have much cash but they could easily equip a party with hunting/survival gear. They might also disperse their agents among other groups, simply to ensure that soft booted city-dwellers don't end up stinking up the woods with their corpses.