The Fallen Sons and Daughters of Heaven Pathfinder Campaign

Game Master Divinitus


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All these undead are just gonna love my constant altar-Desecrate!


Cronossuss Fallen of Time wrote:
Mine will not be a kill tank. I'm going full thematic.

What if being a kill tank is thematic. O_O

Not that I'm seeking an ICBM to implant from a spinal launcher or anything. ;O_O


Arkothus The Fallen of Ruin wrote:
Cronossuss Fallen of Time wrote:
Mine will not be a kill tank. I'm going full thematic.

What if being a kill tank is thematic. O_O

Not that I'm seeking an ICBM to implant from a spinal launcher or anything. ;O_O

You know you want one of these:

Extinction Wave Device

Slot none; Weight 1,000 lbs.; Capacity —; Usage —

DESCRIPTION

An extinction wave device is a devastating and ruinous weapon indeed. When activated by a remote detonator, this bomb explodes in a spherical wash of reality-warping radiation, killing virtually all living creatures with an Intelligence score in a 1-mile radius, while leaving structures and simple life forms intact. Affected creatures must attempt a DC 35 Will saving throw to avoid instant death; success results in 10d8 points of damage instead. Unlike signals, an extinction wave is not hampered by most solid barriers and other materials, but force barriers with 25 or more hit points and metals alloyed with djezet block it. An extinction wave is a mind-affecting death effect.

These statistics are for an extinction wave device designed to target command and control centers. Smaller and larger extinction wave devices exist. For example, a portable wave extinction device delivers a 1,000-foot-radius effect and weighs 50 pounds.


Rynjin wrote:
Arkothus The Fallen of Ruin wrote:
Cronossuss Fallen of Time wrote:
Mine will not be a kill tank. I'm going full thematic.

What if being a kill tank is thematic. O_O

Not that I'm seeking an ICBM to implant from a spinal launcher or anything. ;O_O

You know you want one of these:

Extinction Wave Device

Slot none; Weight 1,000 lbs.; Capacity —; Usage —

DESCRIPTION

An extinction wave device is a devastating and ruinous weapon indeed. When activated by a remote detonator, this bomb explodes in a spherical wash of reality-warping radiation, killing virtually all living creatures with an Intelligence score in a 1-mile radius, while leaving structures and simple life forms intact. Affected creatures must attempt a DC 35 Will saving throw to avoid instant death; success results in 10d8 points of damage instead. Unlike signals, an extinction wave is not hampered by most solid barriers and other materials, but force barriers with 25 or more hit points and metals alloyed with djezet block it. An extinction wave is a mind-affecting death effect.

These statistics are for an extinction wave device designed to target command and control centers. Smaller and larger extinction wave devices exist. For example, a portable wave extinction device delivers a 1,000-foot-radius effect and weighs 50 pounds.

Be sure to take Weapon Focus (neutron bomb).


@GM Fallen Herald

If we get a feature from elsewhere (from a template in this case) do we still need to purchase the base ability in race builder with racial traits to upgrade it?

I am granted DR 10/magic, and there is a racial trait purchase to get DR 5/magic -> DR 10/magic -> DR 10/alignment.
Do I need to spend all 8 points to get that upgrade even though the first two are useless, or can I spend only the 10/magic -> 10/alignment amount?


Rynjin wrote:

Extinction Wave Device

Slot none; Weight 1,000 lbs.; Capacity —; Usage —

DESCRIPTION

An extinction wave device is a devastating and ruinous weapon indeed. When activated by a remote detonator, this bomb explodes in a spherical wash of reality-warping radiation, killing virtually all living creatures with an Intelligence score in a 1-mile radius, while leaving structures and simple life forms intact. Affected creatures must attempt a DC 35 Will saving throw to avoid instant death; success results in 10d8 points of damage instead. Unlike signals, an extinction wave is not hampered by most solid barriers and other materials, but force barriers with 25 or more hit points and metals alloyed with djezet block it. An extinction wave is a mind-affecting death effect.

These statistics are for an extinction wave device designed to target command and control centers. Smaller and larger extinction wave devices exist. For example, a portable wave extinction device delivers a 1,000-foot-radius effect and weighs 50 pounds.

I believe this what Magneto did when he was prevented from getting to his infant daughter who was trapped in a burning house....


If we get DR/magic and DR/good, that makes it DR/magic and good, right?


No, DR doesn't stack that way.


I'm fairly certain that DR doesn't meld together that way, even when you have identical numbers.


Ah, well.
Which do we keep?

I'm assuming /good, since it's "better", but I'm not sure.


Technically, having both DR 10/magic and DR 10/good does function identically to DR/10 magic and good...


IIRC it'd be like DR/magic, DR/Good. And whichever highest one applies does.

So like I have DR 15/Chaotic and DR 4/- if I get hit by a chaotic attack the 4 applies. But i I get hit by a non-chaotic attack everything else applies right?


Preeeeetty much, yeah. ^^ Besides, it's probably more useful if you have multiple types - helpful against those odd corner cases where someone might be able to bypass one (but not multiple) types of DR, and basically never going to be noticeably different otherwise. XD

Silver Crusade

Tanner Nielsen wrote:


Template 4 / Monk (Unchained) 9
Wilder 5 / Thrallherd 8
Anti-paladin 13

Err I'm I right is saying the GM said, Max templates 3

or I'm I wrong


Okay, so I list both. Okay, cool.

@Jonny- there wasn't any limit on the number of templates, or the adjusted levels. Antipaladin has not been banned, but you cannot be a chaotic evil character, instead being LE or NE.

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bigrig107 wrote:

Okay, so I lost both. Okay, cool.

@Jonny- there wasn't any limit on the number of templates, or the adjusted levels. Antipaladin has not been banned, but you cannot be a chaotic evil character, instead being LE or NE.

Well blow me, missed that template stuff upper limit, right time for a rebuild.


Yup, you use whichever one gives you the best bonus versus a certain attack.


Battlespy wrote:

@GM Fallen Herald

If we get a feature from elsewhere (from a template in this case) do we still need to purchase the base ability in race builder with racial traits to upgrade it?

I am granted DR 10/magic, and there is a racial trait purchase to get DR 5/magic -> DR 10/magic -> DR 10/alignment.
Do I need to spend all 8 points to get that upgrade even though the first two are useless, or can I spend only the 10/magic -> 10/alignment amount?

Adding another thing I need answered:

@GM Fallen Herald
I probably should have gotten this clarified way earlier, but, the innate items.
Do we still follow rules for magic item slots when we get them as innate abilities?
I want a heavyload belt and a stat belt.

Silver Crusade

You know the GM said

All of the Fallen are unique beings, more unique than the angels they fell from or the fiends that they will reside among. Hence, you will be allowed to build your Fallen in most any manner.

And then gos on to talk about one way, Race builder etc, but are there others, say Can we take a monster race as one side of our Tristolt?


No, all Fallen are only one race. Fallen.

Some people have figured out creative ways to make themselves into dragons or giant snake-people, but they're still outsiders.


I think the "in any manner" is meant to be picking the eidolon base form.

And honestly, I don't think any monster race could be more powerful than what we have now.


Aye, and some are just your plain old Angels, ready to fall.

@battlespy, I would assume it works as usual in this case, you pay more for the lesser effect if you combine magic effects in a item such as the case you presented.

@bigrig: the thing is that some monster races would give you a ton more HD for the CR they have. Get undead, and bam, you have 16d8+Cha Mod HP for a mediocre investment, literally SWIM in skill points, and get boosted SLA's dependend on your HD+mod. In other words: it's good they are banned.


You can buy monster abilities with Fiendish Points, so it probably wouldn't be TOO hard to replicate a specific creature.

(Personally, I'm not doing so. XD I'm quite happy having a mostly-normal appearance.)


I went with subtle


I might have missed this, but are we allowed to use our RP to upgrade our flight?

Would this be ok for a Fiendish ability? It comes from the Worm that Walks.

Discorporate (Su): A worm that walks can collapse into a shapeless swarm of worms as a free action. All held, worn, and carried items fall and its Strength score drops to 1. The worm that walks functions as a true swarm while discorporated, with a reach of 0 feet (its space remains unchanged). While discorporated, the worm that walks loses all of its defensive abilities and gains all of the standard swarm traits. It loses its slam attacks and all special abilities and special attacks, but can make a swarm attack that deals damage equal to its engulf attack. A worm that walks can reform into its true form (including equipping all gear in reach) as a full-round action as long as it has at least 1 hit point.

The difference would be that the swarm would not be worms but parasitic wasps who retain the character's flight ability.


Sariel: *Sits on Arkothus' head* Maybe I should've invested a few points in Ride...


what do you mean, mostly-normal? Year of exposure to specific online cultures made it impossibly for me to see where the "mostly" comes into play.

Sariel looks *perfectly* normal to me. Exactly as expected. Very Desu, too.

@Cuan, yes, we are allowed to do so, I asked earlier.
And Discorporate would definitely be ok, seeing how everything else so far was(except for ONE thing i asked about, which was instantly declined).

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GM says

You may also use levels from any side of the gestalt to acquire templates, with the calculation of (level=CR-1, mimunim of 1). These templates DO NOT grant any ability score bonuses and any DR, SR, AC, or similar bonuses from templates DO NOT STACK, with you only receiving the highest of any particular one that you possess.

How can you only receiving the highest of any particular one that you possess if These templates DO NOT grant any ability score bonuses and any DR, SR, AC.

That is like saying you get the highest of 0 Vs 0.

I think it should read.

You may also use levels from any side of the gestalt to acquire templates, with the calculation of (level=CR-1, mimunim of 1). These templates DO NOT grant any ability score bonuses and any DR, SR, AC, outside of that, ALL similar bonuses from templates DO NOT STACK, with you only receiving the highest of any particular one that you possess.


The templates do not grant ability scores. They DO grant Damage Reduction, Spell Resistance, Armor Class, and similar bonuses, but said bonuses don't stack, and you only get the best.


You're reading that wrong, Jonny.

That's actually two separate clauses.

1. You don't gain any ability score bonuses.
2. Any DR, AC, etc. don't stack with each other. If two templates give you DR 10/magic, you don't get DR 20/magic. If two templates give you a natura armor bonus, instead of just increasing what you already have, they don't stack.


Cuàn wrote:

I might have missed this, but are we allowed to use our RP to upgrade our flight?

Yes, just buy the Fast racial trait and that'll up your speed in turn.

@Rednal, Arkothus, Harlequin:
All this animu and I'm just sitting here like

@Jonny Panic:

Unnecessary distinction; see rednals response.


@Johnycat, I got that part but it's also the increase in manoeuvrability I'm after.


@Johnny, I believe you get DR, SR, and AC from one template only (not stacking)

Guys, I just realized my domain gives me Limited Wish 3/day with no material cost. Since Limited Wish is the weakest spell that can bring an Outsider/Undead back to life, this means I can revive everybody!

Silver Crusade

Thanks guys that cleared that up, now just need a cream from this rash.


@Thumderbeard- seriously? My 3/day is....Control Weather. Ooh. Yay.

I'm sure it'll be useful, but not Limited Wish useful.


@Johnnycat: People have different tastes. XD I just felt like the two-tone coloring fit Sariel, since she can appear as light or as dark as she wants.

@Thunderbeard: I recommend saving such a power for exactly that circumstance. XD We have plenty of great abilities to use otherwise, and there's no point in using Limited Wish for things we can do without handicapping out ability to revive. I have Resurrection at that level, but sadly, it doesn't work on Outsiders.

...I also have a full-on 1/day Wish, but only when a non-evil mortal requests it. XD And another 3 Wishes to grant to mortals who make a contract with me. I could probably finagle ways of convincing them to use those Wishes to revive you guys in return for another reward... (I don't want to abuse that ability, though, so I won't do TOO much else with it. That wouldn't be nearly as fun.)


@Cuan: my Fallen has it (Worm that Walks) with Discorporate.


Arkothus The Fallen of Ruin wrote:
I went with subtle

Eyyy, guild wars 2. I took some inspiration from that image too.

It's since been changed to acid instead of electricity, and has a shape more like this rad fire monster.


Heh, not many pix I could find of four armed archers, that wasn't the stock Arrow Demon from MM3 lol


So normally I'm like this

but when I run my cult I'm like this


Well I'm truthfully more centaur like but trying to find robotic centaur like death dragons in art form is hard.


Arkothus The Fallen of Ruin wrote:
Well I'm truthfully more centaur like but trying to find robotic centaur like death dragons in art form is hard.

Arkothus, I think I've found it for you


Too tainted by disgusting organics.


The Fallen of Time

"Such a nice man er lady , now if only I could find your way out of this gray endless and timeless plain. Err hello!! Hello anyone there..."

My idea for her is a more old Greek form of hell, hell where nothing happens, forever.


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(Alias of Battle Spy)
I'm gonna switch to my alias from now on (when I remember) so I don't clutter my main.

Normally I be like this
But when I'm angry I be like this


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Tamlakos wrote:

(Alias of Battle Spy)

I'm gonna switch to my alias from now on (when I remember) so I don't clutter my main.

Normally I be like this
But when I'm angry I be like this

*slow clap*


Cronossuss Fallen of Time wrote:

The Fallen of Time

"Such a nice lady, now if only I could find your way out of this gray endless and timeless plain. Err hello!! Hello anyone there..."

Sariel: *Appears beside Cronossuss* How much would you pay to get out of here? ^w^


You are all quite scary, dreadful, or ferocious.

Meanwhile, I am a Tiny-size golden mask, floating in the air with thin tendrils of tenebrous smoke trailing down like the tentacles of a squid. I bob and weave, listening and whispering.

I'm about the size of that dragon's pinkie nail. :3


Hey, hey, there is nothing visibly scary about Sariel! XD

It's what she does that's frightening...

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