No, its not.
I'm not suggesting that Dagon, or Orcus, etc. is sitting outside your cell watching you
If he's proven that no other place can hold him, that he has to be sent to a place like that as a last resort, you better believe he'd garner that kind of attention. Even if it's for no other reason than entertainment. A demon lord has the minions and resources to keep you busy, and not really effect them in any meaningful way.You don't get to play both sides of the argument.
"No prison can hold me" and "I'm just a 16 year old kid".Why not, you do.
"No 16 year old, NO MATTER HOW POWERFUL, can escape hell.
If you don't see the difference, I'm sorry.
I'll spend no further time on this, except to say:
All of the characters, Champions aside, would be equally screwed in such a situation, not just Renkai.
Some more so than others...
Well, I got kicked out, so...I don't think I'd be there long.
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No, its not.
I'm not suggesting that Dagon, or Orcus, etc. is sitting outside your cell watching you
If he's proven that no other place can hold him, that he has to be sent to a place like that as a last resort, you better believe he'd garner that kind of attention. Even if it's for no other reason than entertainment. A demon lord has the minions and resources to keep you busy, and not really effect them in any meaningful way.You don't get to play both sides of the argument.
"No prison can hold me" and "I'm just a 16 year old kid".Why not, you do.
"No 16 year old, NO MATTER HOW POWERFUL, can escape hell.
If you don't see the difference, I'm sorry.
I'll spend no further time on this, except to say:
All of the characters, Champions aside, would be equally screwed in such a situation, not just Renkai.
Grim: alone? screwed, worse than screwed as he'd be a political bargaining tool and/or a weapon depending on who captured him he has very limited etherial transforming but not enough combat prowes to get anywhere, especially if they somehow managed to take his scythe
Arthur: alone, also screwed, espically if striped of his stuff as of course he would be, if he had both hermies and his stuff, he'd have a shot, but not a good one
Dave+skeets: best shot amongst my characters if they leave skeets alive (and they probably wouldn't) as a soul bolt works even in antimagic and dave has his regeneration fire immunity and non magical flight, but ultimately he'd probably fail right now too,
zix would be the worst off because if they captured him and kept him in antimagic, and didn't let him at any alchemical reagents, he'd be defenceless, sure he can punch a lot but that won't let him out of a jail cell
now a team of arthur (hermes) dave (skeets) and grim would have a much better shot, arthur could burst restraints and get the door open, but have no chance of sustained fighting and wouldn't be good at escape, with the help of dave and grim he could get his suit back and escape,
which is what would happen if a PC is caught, they have to work together to win, because this is a team game
Okay, so I don't have time to deal with this right now, but seriously guys, you were asked twice by someone with GM authority to take the argument to the other thread. I do not want to see one more post about it at all. Ice, DK, I will be sending PMs to both of you later tonight to try and unravel this particular interpersonal conflict. Everyone else just stop throwing gas on the fire.
Just leave it and don't add anything further.
What thread? Cuz ya, I totally have a response but not going to annoy Lyn or others with it.
There is a Avalon Arguing thread that Ice created...
I don't remember where it is atm...
Found it!
LINK
It's not very serious though...
Bah. Unless DK wants to meet me over there and discuss this, seems no point. Sad Monkey, lol.
Yep.
Melody. There is no set template. They repair you as what you are. Not as a human.
Have we talked about this before? I remember something about this. :/
There were concerns that the nanites would try to repair her to human standards, that's why they haven't been used up till now.
But why would we have nanites set to human? And if we did, why would I use them?
We know she isn't human.
If the nanites only repaired known species they would be almost useless here...
I just don't see this happening. The nanites aren't keyed to treat specific species. They just use the DNA of the person they contact and repair it to that.
:/
What setting would you use on me?
But why would we have nanites set to human? And if we did, why would I use them?
We know she isn't human.
If the nanites only repaired known species they would be almost useless here...
I just don't see this happening. The nanites aren't keyed to treat specific species. They just use the DNA of the person they contact and repair it to that.
:/
the nanites are programmed for all known species and will repair accordingly but Mel is still unknown. once it is known then they would be programmed.
the pain is just that right now...pain. eventually the nanites will pick up her species but it will still be unidentifed.
also when she enrolled she identified herself as human thus the nanites probably begin repairs based on that initial information.
Or me
First of all, Dave wouldn't need healing.
Second, Grim is a Skeleton. We know about those.
Dave could be injured with cold iron or disease, and grim is a part human part skeleton infused with an eldritch abomination (which he didn't tell anybody about because he didn't think it mattered)
Which is why it would be stupid to program the nanites by species. Everything here is completely individual and if we do anything with blanket coverage stuff like that happens.
That's why I'm saying it only makes sense to have nanites treat things as individuals, reading their DNA to restore them.
No one seems to understand what I'm saying here.
There shouldn't be "human nanites" and "elf nanites." There shouldn't be settings. Just nanites that read a creature and restore it on a personal basis.
which also eliminates the need for healing magic.
thus I no longer need to introduce my new character
Letting nano-bots do whatever they want is a bad idea.
They are usually programmed by a machine before released into the patient. If the doctor thinks they are human, and then applies the nanites, there's a problem.
Now, I could see the nanites having a fail procedure where the DNA/structure (wait...humans don't have two hearts) does not match what they were programmed for, and they cease and exit the patient.
We don't have nanites everywhere. This is just to avoid magical healing that was blocked earlier.
We would use magic, but I don't know if it will work.
If the nanites work as I think they're supposed to, we would try them first since they haven't yet been proved not to work.
Magical and bending healing works and usually is the go-to for easy things and places outside the medical bay and in emergencies that we don't have nanites like yesterday.
This has been very /very/ far from easy.
Meh, go back through the posts and see for yourself who raised the concern and who confirmed it in-game.
If it was one of Lyn's NPCs, then there's your answer.
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Ok, here's another example of suspension of disbelief-
Hide in plain sight.
A non-magical ability that allows toy to be literally staring into someone's face, two inches from them, and they still not see you.
Actually, I always interpreted that ability as relatively realistic--like, the rogue would be dodging around your field of vision, blending into the background, that sorta thing. It's not just plain invisibility. It's being just that badass. "Rogue? What rogue? All I see is an empty room with a funny rug. Hey, where'd the rug go? Where'd that nightstand come fro--okay, now it's gone, too. I really need to get off the night shift..."
Why would a 16 year old be watched by a demon lord?
Just commenting here: This reminds me of an episode of Liberty Kids where the annoying French kid is convincing some American soldiers he's a spy. "Nobody would suspect a kid!" Later, when he gets captured by British soldiers, he insists he's just a kid and they don't buy it.
I'm not aiming to make any sort of statement either way about whatever was being argued over, nor am I calling Ice an annoying French kid--nobody deserves to be compared to that brat. Just been feeling nostalgic about LKs lately...
Unless DK wants to meet me over there and discuss this, seems no point.
*Whistles and wanders off*
Letting nano-bots do whatever they want is a bad idea.
They are usually programmed by a machine before released into the patient. If the doctor thinks they are human, and then applies the nanites, there's a problem.
Now, I could see the nanites having a fail procedure where the DNA/structure (wait...humans don't have two hearts) does not match what they were programmed for, and they cease and exit the patient.
Yes.
If I'm wrong, this should be right. Probably even if I would be right, this is more right.They wouldn't just tear her up. That is the least likely of all of this.
Verris is good at his job. He knows what should happen.
Just let Ace do the job with magic.
LOL KC no fair!
<good to see you>
I only said she was in pain. why do I cause all these problems?
heck with it, lets just let the nanites start to try and fail and they give up.
if I can I'll edit the post
deleted the posts lets just go with Ace's magical healing.
You don't really cause all that many problems.
This is just a time where I wasn't told something my character would know.
I'm sorry. :(
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Regarding nanites, as I've said before, the nanites are programmed to the individual patient and the specific illness or injury. This can be a problem if the patient has no information on file about what they're supposed to be like when healthy. Guessing can and does lead to further damage to the patient. The alternative is to give the nanites a measure of intelligence which opens a whole different can of worms. Sometimes guessing is necessary and with known races carries a high degree of success which is often worth the risk. Mel isn't a known race and they've already been given orders not to use nanites on her for this reason.
Anything that contradicts this info can and will be retconned. As you said, Verris is good at his job and I see no reason to frak up the story because I was eating dinner.
ok thanks ... and lyn for the record we were not arguing but actually looking for a real solution. so I hope we have not upset you in any way.
Wuxn did it...
MG! To the campaign tab!
Maybe should throw in that bit about the nanites, I reckon.
Me?? Why me? lol.
Oh...thought you updated that thing for some reason...
I'm not sure anybody but Lyn can.
If its possible for her to let me, I can.
Ahh...so the bit you wrote for the tab you sent to her and she added it. Makes sense, seeing as how she's the DM and all :)
I think I actually wrote it and posted it to the recruitment thread, we were having a ton of applicants then, and I wrote that up as the best way to get all the basic questions answered in one spot.
Also, it was written completely from memory, no looking things up or double checking :)
An amazing feat that has served us well.
In unrelated news: names!
Iron Fang or Armory? The idea is a lycan that seems to have telekinetic control over a smallish selection of metal weapons. He'll show up in the next Hunt as a 'side story' type.
Hmm... is this a given name or a nickname?
Armory.
Cuz I like you DB3, and you said such a nice thing about my write up, I shall gift upon you the name of metal band via the meme of the same:
Iron Fury.
War forged druid was actually my first idea I had for Avalon before I made Tybs. XD
I think that I'm going to change one of Tyb's languages for the Pseudo Japanese language Midori and company speak, since he recognized it. He won't be very fluid, though.
fluent...not fluid (unless someone has a blowtorch)