I just thought of something...no-ones found the animal killer yet have they?
IC is IC.
Give it a whirl, if it's a student involved.
Otherwise, you're effectively blocking your own progression in story lines, for no, 'good' reason. And potentially other players who might not have access to such progression either.
Besides, it's always fun to 'stump the GM'. Right?
not many know about it
This sounds like something i could be useful in!
But he's a stealthy character, so he has mind blank.
Nope. I have a way to help, but I don't want to use it just yet. Too... strong and story-shortening.
Same thing for me, although I could use what I'm thinking of close to the end of that little tale.
I'm surprised no-one thought of my idea to be honest, although Lyere can probably only cast it a few times and would be very tired afterwards. The only thing is I can't remember the exact name of the spell.
It does involve the corpse and an incantation to bring the vengeful soul back for a brief period though. it's mostly just good for finding someone, maybe attacking if the target fails its save to disbelieve the phantasm.
I'm surprised no-one thought of my idea to be honest, although Lyere can probably only cast it a few times and would be very tired afterwards. The only thing is I can't remember the exact name of the spell.
It does involve the corpse and an incantation to bring the vengeful soul back for a brief period though. it's mostly just good for finding someone, maybe attacking if the target fails its save to disbelieve the phantasm.
Find the spell, get a link of it to refer too-- and start getting some dice rolling. :)
Just remember-- you're dealing with a school that has /epic/ magics going on, so it's possible that even the best ideas, may fail simply due to level differences.
But, there's no harm in trying-- and learning. :)
I'm curious to read this spell's write up, personally.
I'm surprised no-one thought of my idea to be honest, although Lyere can probably only cast it a few times and would be very tired afterwards. The only thing is I can't remember the exact name of the spell.
It does involve the corpse and an incantation to bring the vengeful soul back for a brief period though. it's mostly just good for finding someone, maybe attacking if the target fails its save to disbelieve the phantasm.
Find the spell, get a link of it to refer too-- and start getting some dice rolling. :)
Just remember-- you're dealing with a school that has /epic/ magics going on, so it's possible that even the best ideas, may fail simply due to level differences.
But, there's no harm in trying-- and learning. :)
I'm curious to read this spell's write up, personally.
Odd, if students are supposed to deal with the problems, why are they always way, way above the students?
Odd, if students are supposed to deal with the problems, why are they always way, way above the students?
So that they team up and work it out, versus simply 'fix' it with a single spell?
That /might/ be the situation in some cases. I know of my story lines and their difficulty, and I can only speak to those-- otherwise, I'd be talking out my ass which I make a habit (as much as I can) or not doing.
No plot I'm driving, cannot be resolved by anyone in the school with some effort.
Hope that helps. :)
I'm surprised no-one thought of my idea to be honest, although Lyere can probably only cast it a few times and would be very tired afterwards. The only thing is I can't remember the exact name of the spell.
It does involve the corpse and an incantation to bring the vengeful soul back for a brief period though. it's mostly just good for finding someone, maybe attacking if the target fails its save to disbelieve the phantasm.
Find the spell, get a link of it to refer too-- and start getting some dice rolling. :)
Just remember-- you're dealing with a school that has /epic/ magics going on, so it's possible that even the best ideas, may fail simply due to level differences.
But, there's no harm in trying-- and learning. :)
I'm curious to read this spell's write up, personally.
Phantasmal Revenge--7th level spell, Illusion.
As long as its been less or equal to 16 days since the massacre, I can use this spell
Plus, why /wouldn't/ a student go to a teacher? You'd have to assume they do-- so, it /does/ involve the teacher's power levels (sometimes).
Heh.
If I went to a teacher and asked to use this spell in tandem to find the killer/killers, I think the whole of the animal corpses would be up and calling for blood a lot longer than if I were to do it by myself.
*Imagines the killer running and screaming as their chased by what appears to be vague shapes of all sizes*
might be a bit evil, but oh well >:)
If I went to a teacher and asked to use this spell in tandem to find the killer/killers, I think the whole of the animal corpses would be up and calling for blood a lot longer than if I were to do it by myself.
*Imagines the killer running and screaming as their chased by what appears to be vague shapes of all sizes*
might be a bit evil, but oh well >:)
Yep, and completely IC.
Thus, lots of plots require preparation against teacher involvement. Start playing students more adventurous and self-sufficient, and I think that the CR (as it were) of plots might drop some. :)
Or go off campus and do plots away from those pesky Epic NPCs. :)
Also, given the boot strap efforts of the school to stomp on any semblance of teenage 'fun' now, too, clearly, the 'party' isn't on campus anymore. All this due to some insane Fae, who's player has left the building!
Hmph!
NOTE: Some parts of this message are meant as a joke.
It'd be close to the end in any case, if the teachers weren't already in for the hunt of the killer, then at that time I would offer to use the spell in tandem or a magic circle of wizards and sorcerers to make the spell last and find the killer(s)
30ft. spell range in a combined spell would certainly have the entire massacre victims graveyard up.
Find the link of the spell please. And less OOC discussion, do things IC.
More fun that way!
Why o why dos the rule of cool and rules light seem to have fallen by the way side, yet again a simple thing in game has become, all about my rule layering is best rules layering, it really kills it for me each time. Bleendin walls of blue rues posts arrr!!! save me.
What is wrong with you lot, The story, its all about the story you make with the game, not what page such and such word is on. How many post on here have been about rules over PCs motivation of late. Stacks hell 100s
new threads have been made to deal with it. OMG
I call on Big GMs I site rule of Cool, for my PC to have fumbled nicking some silly bombs and setting them off in game play, making a scene and some fun I hope,
the alternative is A Teacher PC takes the bombs away, end that's it. the end.
Dull dull dull
Not a happy bunny
what say you
Why o why dos the rule of cool and rules light seem to have fallen by the way side, yet again a simple thing in game has become, all about my rule layering is best rules layering, it really kills it for me each time. Bleendin walls of blue rues posts arrr!!! save me.
Not a happy bunny:(
What's worse is-- this is a teacher 'pilfering' another teacher. I'd think there'd be some rolls being made here.
Automatic assumption of 'stealing items' off someone, not good.
More to the point killing the scene to show how powerful there GM PC is and all rules knowing they are, the very epitome of NOT cool.
Rule of cool rule of cool.
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if you want I can roll my caster level+int mod vs CMD, but I very much doubt that I would lose, it is very probable I would win, but I am fine with rolling if the other player wants which is exactly what I said last time and he was fine (or at least didn't say anything) with it then, I'd assume the same happened here, now then I do want to find out how the two headed chick thinks she can grapple me for the bombs (provoking an attack of opportunity unless she devoted a feat to it) and also activate the bomb without me saying power word "stun" or using stunning fist
"Take it to Discussion thread before I lose the will to live"
Too funny. Harden up your skin there, Wombat, people (some more than others) simply cannot learn to use this Discussion board for sorting things out instead of Gameplay sometimes.
:)
Hey, how does Zix have 6 spell casts in a round? I thought we sorted the rules out recently and 2 are the maximum, with a quickened spell and what not?
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"Take it to Discussion thread before I lose the will to live"
Too funny. Harden up your skin there, Wombat, people (some more than others) simply cannot learn to use this Discussion board for sorting things out instead of Gameplay sometimes.
:)
Hey, how does Zix have 6 spell casts in a round? I thought we sorted the rules out recently and 2 are the maximum, with a quickened spell and what not?
... as this has been gone over several (and I do mean several) times... its a racial thing, and I could only get 6 spells off if they were all 1st lvl, or I could do 3 2nd, 2 3rd, 1 4th 1 2nd, etc etc etc
"Take it to Discussion thread before I lose the will to live"
Too funny. Harden up your skin there, Wombat, people (some more than others) simply cannot learn to use this Discussion board for sorting things out instead of Gameplay sometimes.
:)
Hey, how does Zix have 6 spell casts in a round? I thought we sorted the rules out recently and 2 are the maximum, with a quickened spell and what not?
His race.
He can cast up to 6 spell levels In a round.Ex- 6 magic missiles
3 scorching rays
However, anything of 6 or above that is restricted to one a round, as normal.
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"Take it to Discussion thread before I lose the will to live"
Too funny. Harden up your skin there, Wombat, people (some more than others) simply cannot learn to use this Discussion board for sorting things out instead of Gameplay sometimes.
:)
Hey, how does Zix have 6 spell casts in a round? I thought we sorted the rules out recently and 2 are the maximum, with a quickened spell and what not?
His race.
He can cast up to 6 spell levels In a round.
Ex- 6 magic missiles
3 scorching rays
However, anything of 6 or above that is restricted to one a round, as normal.
and this ability can not be combined with the "twined" "repeating" "quickened" or "efficient" metamagics (on that note it is highly possible to fire off 12 in a round if you cast a twinned repeating quickened and a twinned repeating efficient spell)
Pathfinder race, or some 3rd party/3.5 thing? :)
Why not add a link to the race, or is that what the initial URL is on the profile?
Has anyone ever mentioned that repetition in life is frequent, and patience is a virtue?
Heh.
To funny I ask for rule of cool and told I can have to role of some dice and show a mass of rules stiff so we can play the king of rules game,.
OCY!! Ya missing the point, Rules light and story driven game here.
I'm fine with rule of cool but it has to make sense.
This I think is where we fundamentally differ
To you "make sense" means "make sense with in the game rules"
For me "make sense" means "with in the story and PC driven scenes"
your taking away the bombs and just well hiding them dos nothing but kill the scene, where back to standing around waiting for the head master.
Dull dull dull, no story to see here move along, your so busy seeing this as just one big competition on who knows the rules best you forgot the story where making,
Im not pointing any fingers here and you can just disregard what I say but I think a lot of the pointless rules swaggering that's been going on is all about that and not the story.
I say go get a room with ya rules books and please let the game do what its always done, grow with the telling.
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if ya seem my point.
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To funny I ask for rule of cool and told I can have a role of some dice.
Ya missing the point, Rules light and story driven.I'm fine with rule of cool but it has to make sense.This I think is where we fundamentally differ
To you "make sense" means "make sense with in the game rules"
For me "make sense" means "with in the story and PC driven scenes"
your taking away the bombs and just well hiding them dos nothing but kill the scene, where back to standing around waiting for the head master.
Dull dull dull, no story to see here move along, your so busy seeing this as just one big competition on who knows the rules best you forgot the story where making,
Im not pointing any fingers here and you can just disregard what I say but I think a lot of the pointless rules swaggering that's been going on is all about that and not the story.
I say go get a room with ya rules books and please let the game do what its always done, grow with the telling.
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if ya seem my point.
... yes it should make sense instorry... in what way does you sucessfully activating the bombs in my hands (note monk) and me just letting you
espically because given that power word stun is a single word and that I am a monkin game I can't just say that word because of turns, but outside of that, I can just say a single word
tell me how does your way make more sense
captain, please take down your posts in gameplay as they not only make no sense but they also violate the conduct rule type thing,
I could just as easily teleport your clothes away or cast bigbsy's grasping hand and silence over you
but I won't, especially without player consent,
Okay guys, enough already. Zix there is a specific protocol for PvP which you didn't follow to get the bombs away in the first place. A&OK you likewise didn't follow any kind of procedure to get the bombs from Zix. Pretty much this scene has been handled poorly and I don't really want to listen to the whole logic vs story debate again. Story trumps all, but it has to follow some basic logic to be story in the first place. This is how we keep the setting consistent.
Now to solve this particular pissing contest....
I'm going to say that Zix was distracted by scolding Advaran for having he bombs out in the first place, and this brief moment of attention slipping is how the girls set the bombs off, which they did by trying and failing to actually get the bombs away from him, instead setting them off and making a mess.
So now we move on with the scene with no more arguments.
And I go to bed early tonight cause this flu is making me cranky...
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ok see that actually makes sense, thank you
only one thing, I must warn you, Zix isn't a "moral" person the way our culture would see it as he is a "logical" one,
as the warning did not work, and you have made a potentially harmful and an actually inconvenient/frustrating/embarrassing accident, his next logical step would be non lethal subdueing
in this instance either hold person or power word stun
And Opel and Amber are Fey, who needs "morals" when you can have fun!
hehe
Ill clean up the posts lyn, sorry for the trouble coursed.
Less OOC posturing and explaining, keep it IC.
Have fun, try not to kill other's fun. Right?
Plus, thanks, Lynora! Bestest GM.
ok see that actually makes sense, thank you
only one thing, I must warn you, Zix isn't a "moral" person the way our culture would see it as he is a "logical" one,
as the warning did not work, and you have made a potentially harmful and an actually inconvenient/frustrating/embarrassing accident, his next logical step would be non lethal subdueing
in this instance either hold person or power word stun
You play it as you see it old chum,
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You play it as you see it old chum,ok see that actually makes sense, thank you
only one thing, I must warn you, Zix isn't a "moral" person the way our culture would see it as he is a "logical" one,
as the warning did not work, and you have made a potentially harmful and an actually inconvenient/frustrating/embarrassing accident, his next logical step would be non lethal subdueing
in this instance either hold person or power word stun
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*translation "da-faque"
And she knows where the room of someone she's never met before is how exactly?Madness. She talks to madness constantly. But i suppose it looks far fetched. I'll take it out, it's not worth any problems it may create.
Paranoa is within madness's realm, so he could easily know where party was going.
Outrageous! I knew the lot of you would team up to steal my main aspect eventually! I knew it all along!
We aren't playing the Patrons as PCs though, right?
Why, certainly not. Overusing such a powerful being in the roleplay would be simply ludicrous!
Yeah, the alcohol in the punch was working just fine at the dance last year....
Wasn't that I was around? I seem to recall it being spiked. I have a distinct memory of Vakkler having a really bad night trying to keep order.
I just thought of something...no-ones found the animal killer yet have they?
I haven't started on the IC thread yet, but is this something that Vakkler should be informed of? Are school animals being killed?
To be clear, I have no idea who killed Kitty and her animals.
Wow. Either my comprehension level's hit an all-time low or I really need to check the IC thread.
Yes cus at looking at Zix game play and not rules play hehe
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And she knows where the room of someone she's never met before is how exactly?Madness. She talks to madness constantly. But i suppose it looks far fetched. I'll take it out, it's not worth any problems it may create.
Paranoa is within madness's realm, so he could easily know where party was going.
Outrageous! I knew the lot of you would team up to steal my main aspect eventually! I knew it all along!
We aren't playing the Patrons as PCs though, right?Why, certainly not. Overusing such a powerful being in the roleplay would be simply ludicrous!
Yeah, the alcohol in the punch was working just fine at the dance last year....Wasn't that I was around? I seem to recall it being spiked. I have a distinct memory of Vakkler having a really bad night trying to keep order.
I just thought of something...no-ones found the animal killer yet have they?I haven't started on the IC thread yet, but is this something that Vakkler should be informed of? Are school animals being killed?
To be clear, I have no idea who killed Kitty and her animals.Wow. Either my comprehension level's hit an all-time low or I really need to check the IC thread.
Just so you know, KC, the last weekend has been rather 'hellish', in many ways.
Various attacks of sorts, and violent, violent deaths. Your character's return was post those events, and when the school is 'recouping'.
Vakkler: Kitty and her animal hospital were brutally butchered last night while the wards were down (during the attack on the school). Kitty was brought back, but all (but one suspicious omission) of the animals present were slaughtered.
Thanks for the recap. I like how, in-character, odds are good Vakkler's never gonna learn much of the details. He's just not got enough contacts around these parts. ;D
Uh-oh.
Thanks for the recap. I like how, in-character, odds are good Vakkler's never gonna learn much of the details. He's just not got enough contacts around these parts. ;D
IC is IC. Plus, who knows? You /might/ learn about whoever did this dastardly plot.
Plus, yeah -- perhaps the teacher will interact with the students and learn. :)
Vakkler has one form of interaction with the students. Let's just say most of his info from them comes in writing and is highly repetitive. ;)
Why is that everyone' sure action to my ideas?!
I'm a member of this 'everyone' grouping-- and that was /not/ my reaction.
Heh.
Vakkler has one form of interaction with the students. Let's just say most of his info from them comes in writing and is highly repetitive. ;)
Room for change, yay!
Well, change has to make sense. As things stand, Vakkler has been struggling to find the balance between discipline and cruelty since the Dacamara incident. He's not going to make friends with any students anytime soon. ;)