first off I don't have to win no, but I would like to actually get a hit off when he keeps attacking
second by my count I'm still lacking one standard action on the first round
third this is grim not david, and my user account is lord foul
fourth by your count given that my move action was first I had initiative priority which would mean I would be able to make yet another action following your event progression.
What action is it to draw scythe? move. so two move actions instead of move and standard.
Can we end the argument/combat now?
alright what am i? a problem magnet?
seems I just keep ending up in the wrong situations. might as well go back to looking for Sara instead.
alright what am i? a problem magnet?
seems I just keep ending up in the wrong situations. might as well go back to looking for Sara instead.
Wow...
the sheer amount of passive aggressiveness...
first off I don't have to win no, but I would like to actually get a hit off when he keeps attacking
second by my count I'm still lacking one standard action on the first round
third this is grim not david, and my user account is lord foul
fourth by your count given that my move action was first I had initiative priority which would mean I would be able to make yet another action following your event progression.What action is it to draw scythe? move. so two move actions instead of move and standard.
Can we end the argument/combat now?
fair enough, but what about my fourth point
and yes after I get to actually do anything or you don't take your second round of actions
I'm not blaming anybody. what I thought would have been a quick little disagreement turned into a big mess.
I am just not understanding how sitting on the roof nobody sees a flock of hundreds of birds with a giagantic Owl carrying a rider is missed but one steathy guy with a ninja weapon is noticed and approached?
I speak for astreth when i say....
Foul, DK-
"Girls, girls, you're both pritty. Now can we move on?"
I'm not blaming anybody. what I thought would have been a quick little disagreement turned into a big mess.
I am just not understanding how sitting on the roof nobody sees a flock of hundreds of birds with a giagantic Owl carrying a rider is missed but one steathy guy with a ninja weapon is noticed and approached?
To answer this: it's night time and Midori's adarkvision is only 60ft or so.
first off I don't have to win no, but I would like to actually get a hit off when he keeps attacking
second by my count I'm still lacking one standard action on the first round
third this is grim not david, and my user account is lord foul
fourth by your count given that my move action was first I had initiative priority which would mean I would be able to make yet another action following your event progression.What action is it to draw scythe? move. so two move actions instead of move and standard.
Can we end the argument/combat now?
fair enough, but what about my fourth point
and yes after I get to actually do anything or you don't take your second round of actions
and I had higher initiative, thats how, I didnt take my action but held the initiative therefore I can inturrupt your actions because I get to take my action at any time... even during yours.
(is that a good enough explaination?)and due to still holding it, I get to take my 2nd round of actions before you get to take your 2nd round of actions therefore you have explaination and combat is over nothing changes
and I am logging off because I cant stand this either
To answer this: it's night time and Midori's adarkvision is only 60ft or so.I'm not blaming anybody. what I thought would have been a quick little disagreement turned into a big mess.
I am just not understanding how sitting on the roof nobody sees a flock of hundreds of birds with a giagantic Owl carrying a rider is missed but one steathy guy with a ninja weapon is noticed and approached?
ahh well that explains it never really thought about that. thanks
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first off I don't have to win no, but I would like to actually get a hit off when he keeps attacking
second by my count I'm still lacking one standard action on the first round
third this is grim not david, and my user account is lord foul
fourth by your count given that my move action was first I had initiative priority which would mean I would be able to make yet another action following your event progression.What action is it to draw scythe? move. so two move actions instead of move and standard.
Can we end the argument/combat now?
fair enough, but what about my fourth point
and yes after I get to actually do anything or you don't take your second round of actionsand I had higher initiative, thats how, I didnt take my action but held the initiative therefore I can inturrupt your actions because I get to take my action at any time... even during yours.
(is that a good enough explaination?)
and due to still holding it, I get to take my 2nd round of actions before you get to take your 2nd round of actions therefore you have explaination and combat is over nothing changesand I am logging off because I cant stand this either
I'm pretty sure that's not how delaying actions work with initiative but I'll have to check.
I was right
By choosing to delay, you take no action and then act normally on whatever initiative count you decide to act. When you delay, you voluntarily reduce your own initiative result for the rest of the combat. When your new, lower initiative count comes up later in the same round, you can act normally. You can specify this new initiative result or just wait until some time later in the round and act then, thus fixing your new initiative count at that point.
You never get back the time you spend waiting to see what's going to happen. You also can't interrupt anyone else's action (as you can with a readied action).
Your initiative result becomes the count on which you took the delayed action. If you come to your next action and have not yet performed an action, you don't get to take a delayed action (though you can delay again).
If you take a delayed action in the next round, before your regular turn comes up, your initiative count rises to that new point in the order of battle, and you do not get your regular action that round.
so because you delayed I do go first
I'm pretty sure that's not how delaying actions work with initiative but I'll have to check.
*sigh* favorite the post, miss the point.
I'm pretty sure that's not how delaying actions work with initiative but I'll have to check.
I'm pretty sure this is rules light so no one gives a crap.
Did you guys even roll initiative? Renkai how did you hold any actions when as soon as Grim showed up, you hit him?
This is a good example of why I will avoid "Cinematic" fights in PVP, if any happen.
Did you guys even roll initiative? Renkai how did you hold any actions when as soon as Grim showed up, you hit him?
This is a good example of why I will avoid "Cinematic" fights in PVP, if any happen.
*comes back online hoping to continue storymaking not argument*
Read post: Held Initiative, not held action....
*tries to end argument*
so who likes baseball?
Did you guys even roll initiative? Renkai how did you hold any actions when as soon as Grim showed up, you hit him?
This is a good example of why I will avoid "Cinematic" fights in PVP, if any happen.
Yeah, I only like them when both players are cooperative, and understand the other's capabilities well.
Also, this entire thing? Yeah.There is one rule that you tend to ignore, renkai, foul, And honestly, it's a little important.
In general PvP is not allowed except in certain very controlled situations. If both players are agreed to it and they have GM okay, some PvP situations can happen.
They really need more cooperation than non-cinematic fights.
can I just go to detention...
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Did you guys even roll initiative? Renkai how did you hold any actions when as soon as Grim showed up, you hit him?
This is a good example of why I will avoid "Cinematic" fights in PVP, if any happen.
Yeah, I only like them when both players are cooperative, and understand the other's capabilities well.
Also, this entire thing? Yeah.
There is one rule that you tend to ignore, renkai, foul, And honestly, it's a little important.
In general PvP is not allowed except in certain very controlled situations. If both players are agreed to it and they have GM okay, some PvP situations can happen.
he started it
And you didn't quote the rest of that line Foul. Don't try to "win" the argument through misquoting. The rest of that line says that fights can happen for storyline reasons. This was a storyline reason - Renkai was well within his rights to attempt to protect midori from her would-be attacker.
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That wasn't foul.
That was me.
I also said that to both of them.
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And you didn't quote the rest of that line Foul. Don't try to "win" the argument through misquoting. The rest of that line says that fights can happen for storyline reasons. This was a storyline reason - Renkai was well within his rights to attempt to protect midori from her would-be attacker.
??? what????
That was icehawk...
SO ahhh Midori, you wanna go get an ice cream sundae or something?
Lang asks Midori on a date while the other two "discuss"
Two new favorite words:
Pritty and dicuss
The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.
Arthur I already told you what happened.
:)
Lang I guess the find Sorun timing was a bit off. :/ hopefully it won't take long.
The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.
OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F#%@ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!
Did you guys even roll initiative? Renkai how did you hold any actions when as soon as Grim showed up, you hit him?
This is a good example of why I will avoid "Cinematic" fights in PVP, if any happen.
*comes back online hoping to continue storymaking not argument*
Read post: Held Initiative, not held action....
That makes even less sense, then. I decide not to go, by attacking.
It's kind of zen, really ;)
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The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F%@+ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!
yes if you don't play the game by the rules.
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Ok, I'm not helping this, so I'm out, see you after i watch some stuff on YouTube involving BEARS.
Two new favorite words:
Pritty and dicuss
mine was a mispelling that I corrected...
yes if you don't play the game by the rules.The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F%@+ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!
Rules light.
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yes if you don't play the game by the rules.The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F%@+ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!Rules light.
Ok, gone now.
but not rules absent
yes if you don't play the game by the rules.The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F%@+ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!
please direct your eyes to the top of the page, above the place where it says gameplay, discussion, ect...
below Tales of Agartha: ect...
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yes if you don't play the game by the rules.The point is - everyone seems to think that combat is something g you have to win, or you are a failure. You get way way way way way way way way too competitive, and it is truly a poison for this game I love so much. So take your egos out of the game please.OMFG I JUST WANT THE COMBAT TO F%@+ING END SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE WASTING MY LIFE ON THIS STORY LIKE GAME! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK!please direct your eyes to the top of the page, above the place where it says gameplay, discussion, ect...
below Tales of Agartha: ect...
please note that it says rules light not rules absent.
I propose the wards do not allow violence by a student on another student for any reason, regardless of intent. The student whisked away can explain to the staff member in detention what happened, and why they are there.
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Seriously? Okay, well, thank you Icehawk for at least trying to be the voice of reason, and to the rest of you who have stayed calm through this ridiculousness.
Ed, your issue seems to have been addressed so I won't repeat the obvious.
Lord Foul and DK.....Seriously? And LF you have siblings so I'm pretty sure that you know exactly how far the 'he started it' argument is going to go with me. But just in case you haven't heard this recently, it doesn't matter who started it, someone else's bad behavior is no excuse for your own.
I've already put up the PvP guidelines and there's not really a lot I can say here that isn't covered in that. We play initiativeless combats here for the most part and one of the important things about making that work is being respectful of other players and letting them take their actions before you take another one. DK, when you're in a scene with more than one other person try to let both go before your next action. It makes things flow better and in general is a courtesy towards your fellow players that I expect all players to follow. Lord Foul, first of all same reminders about courtesy to fellow players and also step away, take a breath, whatever you need to do. We can discuss things rationally and calmly once you are in a calmer frame of mind.
@ Lyn yes it was addressed it was a mistake by me, and i feel that is a non-issue ... the whole darkvision thing was all my bad. no biggie. anyway Lang is up there now wondering if Midori is alright he only heard her scream not knowing much else.
I'm plenty calm...
And calm is why you had sunk to grade school level comebacks? This is like refereeing Thanksgiving dinner. You have the ability to be better than this. Use it.
As far as the combat itself is concerned, yes, Renkai took a move action too many and did not wait as he should have for other participants actions. The player has been given a warning and unless this becomes a chronic problem from here with not waiting for the actions of others in a scene, the issue is closed.
And I am telling you, when you feel that you are in the right to the point that you can't let go of something even if others don't agree with you, it is time to step away and get some perspective.
ok for what little its worth I see the current scene as follows.
Grim standing there (not disarmed) watching over midori ready to step in if needed.
Renkai has released and/or back off not wanting any further provocations.
Lang seeing the two seperate themselves. and at Midori's plea to stop goes over to see if Midori is alright. (she has already been healed by Grim at this point.
Lang did not take any action against either person merely vocalizing the same plea as Midori.
I'm plenty calm...
And calm is why you had sunk to grade school level comebacks? This is like refereeing Thanksgiving dinner. You have the ability to be better than this. Use it.
As far as the combat itself is concerned, yes, Renkai took a move action too many and did not wait as he should have for other participants actions. The player has been given a warning and unless this becomes a chronic problem from here with not waiting for the actions of others in a scene, the issue is closed.
And I am telling you, when you feel that you are in the right to the point that you can't let go of something even if others don't agree with you, it is time to step away and get some perspective.
I apologize, I (believed) I had all of the scene correct in my head...
and Foul, You were attempted to be disarmed, and when that failed I kneed you in the leg to give myself an advantage. I didnt attempt to beat the crap out of you... just end (reduce) the threat you posed. Renkai made no move to attempt permanent harm upon grim....
Lang, that recap of the scene works for me.
Since both of the boys thought that they were protecting Midori and to the best of my knowledge were neither of them trying to use lethal force nobody went to detention. It was a minor scuffle. Nobody really hurt.