you know now I'm thinking of Kris (the kitsune) how he was complaining at the pace... yeah... heh
I dunno Lyn, sometimes months and months of epic planning pays off. Like with Aegythrax. That was awesome.
Well, that's true. Sometimes the planning and setup do pay off. But I have a special place in my heart for the felicitous surprises. Probably because they're less work for me. :)
yay new word
fe·lic·i·tous
Well chosen or suited to the circumstances
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lyn, did you get the e-mail I sent you?
Yeah. In order to actually get to participate in the game, I save things that require an extended response for late at night right before I go to bed.
Yeah, I have to agree Lyn. Like the stuff between Vai and Sadie. None of that was planned, and I've been reading through the backlog. Honestly those are my favourite parts. I hadn't even considered it, and didn't know WTF was going on XD
The heritage post proves my point if a character's description goes past the time mark its too complicated for me one race one gesalt one template is almost too much in my opinion
humans and elves as a whole (not as individualls) get it on with just about everything, dragons do so as well but not as often, and they don't always care about the results, elan I just threw in there for the heck of it, game mechanics wise, the dragon side only affects him enough for the bloodline and the feats, his angelic side is less watered down, but it wasn't quite as potent to begin with in comparison
I guess its just a personal thing i get deep into the emotional side of a character i only weaponized it because i needed something and adam encouraged that as well
*cough*you mean adon*cough*
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humans and elves as a whole (not as individualls) get it on with just about everything, dragons do so as well but not as often, and they don't always care about the results, elan I just threw in there for the heck of it, game mechanics wise, the dragon side only affects him enough for the bloodline and the feats, his angelic side is less watered down, but it wasn't quite as potent to begin with in comparison
Translation: Sex. It's a thing.
I just need to do feats and skills, then she'll be done, anything I should change?lyn, did you get the e-mail I sent you?Yeah. In order to actually get to participate in the game, I save things that require an extended response for late at night right before I go to bed.
I don't know yet. that's kinda what I meant about extended response. I still need to read the material.
Moved post 1
Dave your SR Q
Only when your the target Dave,
As the target was another players Familiar/Animale camption so unless it has it nope, even in your hand its It that has to have the SR.Moved post 2
Dave
Your PC did a number of actions, Grab it, hold it, use fire to threaten it and hold it out, from action one Star would have moved and she moves real fast so she beat you, in Initi, now your saying she did not do what was posted, As I GM here I can not rule on this so if you want I can ask anther GM to do so and will abide with what they say, what I offered was that both things happen at once as a comprise.
As for checks its Init, she wins, then its a touch on the animal and its saves, You holding it so its saves touch is way low, flat footed. so she can make that, She moves out of time for that and then she can TP it ways, no saves or a will save if it knows being TPed but its in surprise round.
Or we can do it the very complicated way with her manipulating time, make you take lots of -N etc its complicated but at a push she can use her cohort to just halt time and move the darn thing out of your hand.
so how about this, she used "Personal Time" power to ReDo round. She has one, that way both time lines happen and we get to the end of your post. Only Star knows what would have happened in that other time line, I like that better, you where close sooo close to toasted squirrel .
One other point I may have this wrong
If your going to go "Order of posts" Trumps Initi then your going to make a lot of slow posting players very upset with you. just some ting to thing on.
Replay in a nutshell
Ok Dave has asked that a PC I have not do a thing and I find that hard is it would run against very thing my PC is
so this was my hard place, As a PC with a teacher role here I can not make a call on this. Its just not right for me to do that but I will set out my argument why Star would act.
she is a pacifist vegetarian who would just look on as you try and cook alive in front of her a defenceless animal, See it from my PCs point of view, your PC did act, and she would do this in response sorry, so I'm asking for a another GMs PC call on this, Starlight acts and thinks so fast she would have acted and not waited, sorry Dave, I am happy to PM and the GM making the call to say how she dos this, but she would have acted in a instant, you did more than one thing, and you said your PC would not let go UNTIL you got a repose, from what I can see you did not get that so you can not have it both ways and even with that she would have acted, fire on she can act in surprise round and beats your initi. So there is may case,
what’s key here is I think there is no way star light would have not done something to save a life of an animal in danger, sorry Dave no way.
So could a fellow GM please make a call.
the only fire Dave used then was essentially the extent of 'warning shots' the action she responded to was the action of burning it
I ask you not do this because in the state he was in if you phisically tried to stop him he would have attacked you, and he would have first done conflagularation followed by either slow or breath weapon, followed by heat death (if you somehow fail the reflex save for the breath weapon then he grabs you instea) granted he would have to do it in round format and you would be able to run away, but that first one is a save or die AoE
I don't want him to do that but that's what he would do if you tried to take him
Ok Dave sorry but just will not have time to act or do any of that, that's the point I keep making here, you stated your actions and she moves on one of them faster than you can detect, that's what I keep saying, please I do want to make this a fight, as she dos not fight, but the your PC is just to slow.
Looking at the conflict between Star and David at its basest form, it seems to me that Star is trying to play totally to character, saving an innocent animal, while David just appears to be perhaps avoiding further trouble?
Maybe if David explains, perhaps privately to a GM if necessary, why he seems so against Star rescuing the squirrel, this would be able to be resolved better.
that's not so much the problem, like I said AoE save or die, innocent by-standards
without a target he would first conflagularate
then do a blast of Ice from his mouth strait up followed by jets of fire from each hand
but wouldn't you have already used up your actions in that round grabbing him from me?
I don't want that because what's going on now is drama enough.
@Dave: Which would have landed you in detention before you even had a chance to complete the first action.
Side-note: Everyone PLEASE remember that wards. I am not always online to handle it personally.
As long as I have been gaming I have never done anything that was mentionable that I planned.
That is sooooo true! Just like the Star Wars campaign where you chose the stun baton so he wouldn't be so powerful... Only to use it as a one hit TKO!
Monkey God, in character, in that state, were he to be physically stopped he would snap and berserk, just mindlessly explode...
Raelle sorta brought him to his senses verbally but he trusts her and she didn't try to grab at it or anything like that.
At which point Initiative would come into play as well as the wards, and you would loose either way.
Dave none of that works, as I said, she can be in and out and is not defected by your actions please show me how she is
1: Is affected
2: You act faster, you get no attacks as she's in and out as free action before you even know and you can not detect her.
That's the basic stuff she can do a lot more and Dave she will act 1st sorry but she can do truly scary things with time, its why I made her a pacifist.
I really don't particualarially care enough to ask or argue beyond the point of asking and explaining once each, given that neither worked, I am not going to waste time saying essentially the same thing
I am just saying that if you took him we would have to re-do everything in this because I would have had to gone and exploaded on people and this would have been done if at all after a trip to the infirmary,
and about the wyards, nonleathal can still kill you if you accumulate enough.
if that isn't enough then I still have head-cannon :P
I believe the wards teleport you straight to detention as soon as you attack another student, and might even negate the attack.
So you would splode, nobody would care or get hurt, and you would wind up in a TON of trouble.
Non-lethal or not, then wards will kick in before damge is deal to one student by another.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Monkeygod.
which is again something that again I don't want and that would render all that posted void and be comparably boring
magical traps were stated to be converted to Non lethal
heh ninja-ed by the headmaster.
Ok Dave again and now with the backing of the headmaster,
I want to make this 100% clear, you just do not get the time to do any of that,
One instant its in your hand then next its not, you do not know how or who? just that star light is with it, and Ping one of two things happon.
1: The wards kick in and you go pooffff and nothing or
and I did not really want to do this but
Starlight will stop time, her Cohort dos this, then call up some more time elimetals wile it tells the head master what your going.
(I guarantee time stop if this level dos not work on him)
ether why you just do not get the "time"
So sorry you will not have the chance to nuke,
Time stop or wards trumps all that.
what your sounding now is, I get my way or other die, that's on to of the animal thing has me more worried than ever so Star would act as stated.
Again I am happy for another GM here to make a call on this.
wait does that mean that there's no way I would have been able to actually hurt the rodent anyway? or is he not protected?
The squirrel is not a student. Such a change to the ward will be promptly incorporated.
O your a slippery one haha
if that happens then nothing else posted in story does... because well your screwing with time when it would have resolved itself on its own would make him snap and none of what was posted would happen.
Its entirely feasible that the actions go like this:
1) Saki is caught by David
2) David admonishes Saki, and causes the ninja squirrel a minor burn
3) This act in turn causes Star to teleport Saki away from David, in order to prevent further harm.
Here is where we encounter a slight problem. It is possible Star can see into the future, and sees David singe Saki and thus uses her powers to prevent the whole incident. My suggestion would be to not have any sort of future sight affect the scene so it plays out as normal, even if it means Star needs to just ignore the 'vision'. After all, its from the future, which we all know is highly mutable.
4) David, due to his current state of mind, is enraged, but Raelle and perhaps Skeets(and others??) are able to calm him, before he can react violently.
This would allow everybody what they want. Star acts totally in character, David singes Saki, which leads to all the follow up drama and roleplay, and nobody gets truly hurt, and thus the wards are never triggered, avoiding any negation of what's transpired
hmm... maybe... but Dave was teetering on the edge there, any further and he would just stop listening to reason.
I suppose it'd work
it'd work equally well if not better if she saw the possible result of her trying to stop Dave, or saw Raelle stop him before things go crazy and thus didn't interfere.
David, just let it go man. This really shouldn't be such a big deal. You've said it several times you like the drama and RP that has sprung up around what took place.
Call it the power of love, say it was skeets being an extension of your will and mind, maybe it was some weird twist of fate that pushed you on the good side of that edge, whatever makes you happy and lets the course of events flow as suggested.
After all, this is a game and we all want to have fun. Let Star have her moment, so you can then have yours.
Okay, guys, wow there's more drama here than in the game thread. :(
Alright. First off, as the Headmaster already pointed out: wards.
Second, based on my understanding of the time thief which is pretty damn good considering how much of that class I used for Ephebe's time abilities, Star most certainly could have teleported Saki away in that instant when Dave hesitated. It was an instant and time thief moves fast. By the time he could have reacted it was over and he was already regaining awareness. However, time thief is not all powerful, and it's not that the future is mutable. It's layered in parallel dimensions. Changing events separates off a whole new dimension. It's complicated. Keep this in mind.
Regarding initiative. I don't use it. We go by post order. However, in a combat situation, don't be a jerk. Pause to let other people have their actions before you continue on with yours. If there are posts that are so close as to be virtually done at the same time, then the best thing is to try to come to a compromise. Which was done. I was perfectly happy with how things were handled in the game thread. Not really sure why we're even having this argument. Let it go. We're not ret-conning so there's no point.
so essentially (correct me if I'm wrong) she took the squirl as I was opening my hand to do so already?
haha monkey you raskcal
so essentially (correct me if I'm wrong) she took the squirl as I was opening my hand to do so already?
Yes. That is correct.
well ain't that just pointless...
made even more pointless (on both sides for this part) by the unnecessarily long discussion about it
That was pretty much what I was saying. At least for the discussion. As for the action, yeah, it ended up not being pointful. But Star wouldn't have known that since in the dimension she came from Dave didn't release Saki. The very act of changing a timeline knocks you into an alternate timeline. Hence Ephebe's mantra: 'I hate time travel'.
That was pretty much what I was saying. At least for the discussion. As for the action, yeah, it ended up not being pointful. But Star wouldn't have known that since in the dimension she came from Dave didn't release Saki. The very act of changing a timeline knocks you into an alternate timeline. Hence Ephebe's mantra: 'I hate time travel'.
Funny, I have that same mantra in real life...
Btw Lyn, don't forget to have Ginni respond to Ace.
That was pretty much what I was saying. At least for the discussion. As for the action, yeah, it ended up not being pointful. But Star wouldn't have known that since in the dimension she came from Dave didn't release Saki. The very act of changing a timeline knocks you into an alternate timeline. Hence Ephebe's mantra: 'I hate time travel'.Funny, I have that same mantra in real life...
Btw Lyn, don't forget to have Ginni respond to Ace.
Done. I missed that post the first time through with all the posts coming across so fast.
so essentially (correct me if I'm wrong) she took the squirl as I was opening my hand to do so already?Yes. That is correct.
And thats what I said Dave in my post after After I stated Stars actions
http://paizo.com/campaigns/TheAvalonChronicles/gameplay&page=475#23750 Here
"Dave Star will use a bit of time to pop and action in 1st before you let the thing go, we can do it with roles but she will win. best we do it at the same time, as you open your hand star winks in and out taking the little animal back to Kittys side.
(if thats ok, no GM say so here just asking player to player:) that way both actions stand)"
I think you may have missed that.
Then you asked me to undo Starlights actions, and so on etc...
so after all that we are back to where we stared in the above post.
:)
it happens.
As for time, I am very careful with Star, she could make game play a bloody nightmare, but as has been said its time streams and time lines not time undoing so shes careful as she may make a new time line where bad things could happen. To her it's a new shadow and she would be responsible.
But you can not pick and choose what lives to save, there in lays a road paved with good intent that leads down into a very dark place, to Star a life is a life and all are Equuleus.
She only dos this when she feels she really needs to.
So as not to mess with game play etc.
So every one happy,
I'm sorry star I must either have missed that or misread ir.. sorry