Test Run

Game Master RaFon

There are quality map options via Paizo map purchases and posting viaGoogle Drive.

You can create your own via Ditzie or use Roll20...there are many many options for you.

I use google docs.. Its easy and free.. Can prob find a youtube explaining it..

Guys, I got wrangled in to working a double today and I possibly have a long day tomorrow as well. I will post again as soon as I can. Sorry for the delay.

Ok...here is my very crappy map. I looked for mapping tools and this was the best I could come up with/do. It'll take some explaining, but at least you will have some idea. The ENTRANCE is obviously where you came in. The three "doors" leading out of the room are open doorways. The door to the right is closed.

Crap Map

can't get in.

Same, have to get permission

My internet has went out. Yet again. Anyone know how I give permission?

Map

Try again...should work now.

It works. Im just following everyone else, though

It is up to the GM to make calls on all of this but this is the best place for the discussion.

The Nature of Goblinoid Evil

Goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears, despite having superficial similarities, each represent a different face of evil. Hobgoblins are ordered and methodical in their evil, forming vast armies, warbands, and despotic nations. Goblins are the primal evil, seeking only cruelty and petty victimization as they can find it, be that among their own kind or against their neighbors. Yet the evil personified by the bugbear may be the most terrifying, for they actively seek to inflict pain and suffering in the most destructive ways possible.

goblins, hobgoblin, bugbears, orcs, and other races are assumed evil. yes there maybe some members of the races that aren't but they are exceptions to the rule.

He speaks of a leader but explains that he is not so much a chief as a master. He is as big as a human and goes by the name Goot.

The goblin said that the leader was as big as a human not that it was a human. The hobgoblin fits this description.

If the hobgoblin isn't to be left behind then either someone has to carry it or we wait around for it to wake up. Once it is a wake it has to be watched at all times to keep it from escaping.

It is more reasonable that it is involved in the banditry in the area. It is doubtful that the hobgoblin is just taking a nap in the goblin lair before moving on to new Wesel to sell it's load of lace doillies.

Brom would agree that killing it in cold blood is not the best option but there is only five of us facing an unknow number of enemies. Offing the hobgoblin is the most ruthless solution but also the safest least resource intensive.

Fenn doesn't have to like it or accept it. We can fight over it but I am of the opinion that it fits within Broms alignment as explained by the rules.

Now how does Fenn justify leaving the goblin hanging upside down from a tree in the woods. I wouldn't want to be hung upside down for hours. That looks like torture to me, and it wasn't even done to gain information.

I will wait on the GM's judgement before fighting

I've been thinking about this for a while and I looked around to see if there was a rule that mentioned interrupting another character (if there is please correct me). I came across this from a message board:

"Just because Player A says to the DM "I'm going to kill the unconscious guy" doesn't mean that Player B has any inkling that's about to happen, and more often than not Player A would likely be able to get off the shot in a surprise round before Player B could react.

Think about it logically, (I know, I know...) Player A is standing over unconscious guy with his gun out. If he pointed the gun and pulled the trigger...would anyone really have enough time to react and stop him?"

In my opinion, I'm not sure Fenn would have time to react.

If we are not satisfied with that, Fenn and Brom can role initiative and the higher roll would get first action and then we can go from there...either Brom would kill the hobgoblin, or Fenn would stop him and Brom could make his move from there.

Sorry that this is not a definitive answer, but I'm honestly not sure how to handle it.

Let me know what everyone thinks.

That works for me. What is your judgement on the action itself would it change my alignment?

Well consider this.. a two-handed poelarm weapon that has reach is Not a gun. Its is not a point and pull trigger action to use that weapon. Brom is not a pole-arm weapon archetype fighter.. so he can't just 'choke-up' on the weapon's haft to even use it without it's reach and he can't attack a creature under his reach. Fenn was standing over the Hobgoblin and binding his head wound... I think I have a strong case that Fenn could indeed interrupt a full round action to coup de grace.

But if you insist...

Initiative: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (8) + 2 = 10

But if Brom does kill a helpless prisoneer and the party is fine with it.. I'll have Fenn leave and play something more fitting in the general alignment of the party... favoring neutral to evil actions. Cause Fenn will not associate with people of such cruel alignments.

A coup de grace is a full round action. In a surprise round you only get a standard to start the full round, you have to complete it on your next turn. So basically if bronn can beat fenn on initiative he completes the action. You might allow fenn a sense motive as I do believe bronn didnt directly announce his intention but he did say something before he acted. IMO

If Brom's ok with being interrupted, then I'm fine with it. If not, he can roll intitiative and take his action. If he's ok, he can make his move based on the game thread.

As far as an alignment shift…no, it would not change your alignment. I do not see it as an EVIL act. Brom is a fighter and I believe that is totally acceptable for his character to do without any evil intent. Warriors have had to make choices like that since the beginning of time.

I am okay with being interupted. I wouldn't want to be the cause of Fenn not being able to play the character he wants to play.

question the bottle the hobgoblin was snoozing with, was it the bottle we are looking for or do we still need to find it?

Again... its not about killing. Fenn is not opposed to killing a evil foe in combat if there is no other choice or just the heat of battle. It one thing to fight and kill a foe who is trying to kill you in combat. Its completely different thing the killing of another intelligent sentient being who is unconscious and at one's mercy ...without even knowing if that person is deserving of death... simply because they are a member of a monstrous race! That is just plain arbitrary and evil in his opinion.

And if the PARTY is ok with killing helpless prisoners... if they agree with Brom that this is "acceptible" behavior... Fenn would not want to associate with such people. Whether Brom manages to kill the Hobgoblin or not.. its the party's reaction to his actions that are important to Fenn. Helpless prisoners should not be killed out of hand ... just 'because' its convenient to do so. That is not a action good people should accept.

Cause the eventual argument is how to deal with foes that surrender or ask for mercy? Is it ok to offer mercy ...just to kill them later? If our only answer is kill.. then why offer mercy? The question comes up if Fenn demands someone to surrender and they do.. will Brom just try to kill them? Part of the unspoken understanding of accepting surrender is that you're not going to just turn around and slay the foe.

Yes, it adds a level of complication to the trite simple "insert sword, remove exp {repeat.. as needed}" of most adolescent... but I think we're all a little beyond that now?

I'm perfectly fine if the rest of the players think this is acceptable behavior.. I can generate a non-good character as well... to fit more in line with the alignment of the party. This is important because it WILL come up again... if this is not resolved now. We need to decided how prisoners will be treated. I'd rather play a similarly 'dangerously neutral' character rather and invest anymore time and effort into a 'good' young hero-at-heart if it will mean more conflicts on doing what is fair, just, and moral in the future. I was lead to believe we were playing young heroes not veteran killers.

I can do either... but I want to know up front.

I thought we had worked this out. Fenn you got what you wanted and saved the poor cuddly hobgoblin. I promise Brom won't try to kill anymore of your prisoners okay. Can we move on now?

Just so everyone is aware, I am a general manager of 3 restaurants, so weekend posts will be hard for me for the foreseeable future. One of my managers is out on medical leave, so we are having to pick up more hours. Sorry for the hold up.

Fenn, what door did you mean? The door at the end of the hall to the right or one of the two doors on the larger room on the right?

Not the the door at the end of the right hand hall. The door facing north in the hallway on the right.... its so we can watch the dining hall and the door at the end of the hall at the same time while we look into the right-hand north room.

Hey, I know posting on my part has been slow, but one of my managers is out on medical leave (she had surgery to remove some cancer) and my schedule this week has been horrendous. Next week is looking better, though, so I'm hoping to jump back into the game starting Monday. Sorry for all the hold up. I appreciate everyone hanging in there with me. I hope everyone has a nice holiday.

Guys.. I hate to be a bummer but I way too much on my plate to keep tabs on all of my games, so im cutting back on my most previous joined ones.. This has nothing to do with the game as it has moved forward with a decent pace, I just cant keep up with them all and need to throttle back some.. Good Gaming and Good Luck though!

Thanks for letting us know. Good luck to you too.

(Sleep won't go off until the start of the next turn, one round cast time)

Oh, yeah...duh. Thanks, Jeseare.

I guess we are just waiting on Jeseare or we can skip him and point him at the end of the line up. Makes no difference to me. If want to delay him, Fenn would be next.

Chronicler - GM... we have not gotten xp from the subdual of the Hobgoblin, or defeating the Stirges.. got any numbers for my xp log?

Hobgoblin is 1/2 and the stirges are 1 1/2.

I am .eaving for vacation. I will try to post, but if I am able it will be later in the evenings. Talk to you soon.

Bowing deeply and with great flourish,

"Ladies and Gentlemen,
With much regret I must adieu."

@Players, thank you for an entertaining romp. I've enjoyed our lively banter.
@GM, thank you for your time and effort. An enjoyable game thus far which will surely turn into a grand adventure. Good luck!

Q.

Ok. See round man. 'sigh'.. guess we need a new arcane caster.. or at least level 2 so I can take my first level of wizard.

Should we open recruitment again?

Feel free to post in the recruitment. I will ASAP. Thanks.

Q…I appreciate the time you put in.

Here's Little King's wizard (the very very beginning, more to come...I have to work now).

Alias complete! Am I already in, or are there other contenders?

Feel free to jump in at q's initiative. We'll play like you've been with us fr the beginning. Welcome.

Zabela...you gonna post something?

No worries, Fenn; I'm sure Zabela would be fascinated! That being said, she's 144, which is on the older side, even for an elf.

Actually, elves aren't even considered middle aged until about 175 years old.Startign elf age is a base of 110 years... effectively 'societal-wise' as elves see it, you would be in your lat 20's or early 30's at age 144. Still youthful by comparison... but certainly a fully mature elven woman.

While Fenn at actual age 22 years old, is still just barely out of teenager years - a young adult yet... as starting base age of a half-elf is 20 and looking at humans, as a benchmark, starting base humans are 15 years old.

Fenn might have a final 20's filling out growth spurt that young men go through at that age.. though he may be an early bloomer with a strength of 16! That's impressive for a post-teenager, but he is a country farm boy!

I am sorry to say that I am going to have to absent myself from the boards for awhile. Some real life things have come up, and I can't take the time to play or run any games. Sorry to let you all down like this. I have enjoyed playing with you all and hope my leaving won't be too much of an inconvenience. To those of you in my Skull and Shackles game I can't tell you how sorry I am to disappear on you all like this. I said I would finish at least the first book of the AP but it just isn't possible right now.

Man. Sorry to see you go Brom, hope real life settles down for you... come back any time! Peace.

@ Chrnicler: So ... open Recruitment again for a front line fighter?

Damn! Just occurred to me I'm the ONLY remaining core character!

Ah well.. I'm not leaving until Chronicler turns out the light..

So everyone that should be another 150xp for the CR2 Bugbear.

I'll recruit.

And still waiting to get to act...

Yeah, that was a pretty low initiative roll.

This is the current Loot list as I have it...

Chronicler or anyone else let me know if I've missed something or placed something where it is not...

LOOT -
Hobgoblin Loot
bottle of booze {nearly empty} [Griffon Stamp on Side]
studded leather armor, longsword
Hobgoblin Stash - Burlap Sack:
assorted coins, dead rabbit
crumpled piece of parchment - copy of the spell Summon Monster 1
silver flask {Dwarven Runes on side},
red-stoned ring (still on the severed finger of its owner

burnt and chewed? journal.
{The pages are illegible, except the last sentence. . .on the last page. "The portal is complete."}

Goblin Library Assualt Loot
4x Shortswords-Sz: S
4x Shortbows-Sz: S

Bugbear Loot
Morning Star
3x Javelin
Leather Armor
Light Wooden Shield

Assassin Vine - Corpse Loot
2x Shortswords
6 gp

Basement Laboratory
a large (10 ft. radius) mirror that is positioned in the middle of the room. Bright light floods out of the mirror, as does unfamiliar sounds and smells. In the middle of the mirror is a large chunk of stone that fell from the ceiling and smashed the mirror. Vines and plants are poking their way out of the larger pieces of the mirror and a brightly colored bird is sitting on top of the chunk of ceiling.

(6) bottles:
2x Potions - Cure Light Wounds = 1d8 + 3hp; 1x Endure Elements;
1x Oil of Lighten Object = Halve the weight of one object for 3 min, Size of the object is limited to 1 cubic foot per level (lvl.3)
1x Potion - Read Weather = Precisely forecast next 48 hours
1x Potion - Remove Sickness: Suppress disease, nausea, and the sickened condition

The rest of the bottles contain basic ingredients for making potions. All said and done, probably worth 50 gold.

'Portal' Journal = {about what is beyond the portal, a great jungle. Includes some sketches in the book. Plants, animals, and strange creatures cover some of the pages}

Treatise on Potion-Making
Spellbook = All 1st & 2nd Level Wizard Spells in Core Book

Basement Side Room
Brandy Bottle w/Dwarven Emblem {Anvil Stamp}

PARTY ITEMS-
Fenn
book of poetry by the elven poet, Tiran Everwood

Brom {DECEASED}
Brom's Gear:
chain shirt 25 lbs
light wooden shield 5 lbs
bastard sword 6 lbs
dagger 1 lbs
lucerne hammer 12 lbs
bedroll 5 lbs
belt pouch(flint and steel, 3 GP 5 SP) .16 lbs
backpack( gear maintenance kit, grooming kit, mess kit, pot, rope, shaving kit, soap, torch x10, trail rations x5) 35 lbs
waterskin 4 lbs

Quolamin
book on Dwarven wine. It is very old and the pages are brittle to the touch

Jeseare
Treatise on Potion-Making

Bringor
Brandy Bottle w/Dwarven Emblem {Anvil Stamp}

Zabela
Spellbook = All 1st & 2nd Level Wizard Spells in Core Book

I'm leaving for a camping trip today. I may have Internet access while I'm gone, but I don't think it's very likely. I may be able to post Saturday night, but it might be Sunday night. Bot me as needed, please.

No problem. When/if Bosk post, we'll be moving on. Have fun!

Sorry for my silence... at GENCON.

No problem. We'll start up again next week everyone enjoy your weekend.

Before I post, I would like to know if everyone is in for the another adventure? If everyone could yea/nay for me. I'd appreciate it.