Stirrings in the Deep

Game Master Zesdead

Paizo's The Emerald Spire'.

...in which our adventurers explore the Pleasure Gardens.

Party Health
Ea Zalinzel 92/92HP, 3 Hero Points, 1 Blessing of Pharasma
Yasmin al Akbar 74/74HP plus 2THP, 3 Hero Points, 1 Blessing of Nethys
Rallos Therinor 77/83HP, 3 Hero Points, 1 Blessing of Asmodeus
Titania Thrune 94/94HP, 2 Hero Points
Murassa Sonvar 66/66HP, 3 Hero Points

Maps
The Emerald Spire - Level 13
Cross Section of the Emerald Spire
Map of Fort Inevitable

Party Treasure


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Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

Sorry for you not getting your promotion, Grayface


Male Tengu Menhir Savant Druid 4 | HP: 34 AC: 17 Initiative: +2 Fort: 5 Ref: 3 Will: 8

I'm here, I'm sorry, I'm really overwhelmed at work (still behind at this very moment,) and when I get home I have a newborn to look after plus I'm still exhausted from my work day. Generally when I get home I've been napping/trying to sleep in between feedings and changings of my baby boy. Posting in all my campaigns - I want to get on top of things again, hopefully this Memorial Day weekend will let me do that.


male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

Its all good...family first....this is why i dont have kids....lol


Male Tengu Menhir Savant Druid 4 | HP: 34 AC: 17 Initiative: +2 Fort: 5 Ref: 3 Will: 8

Yeah, Oliver was a mistake - a happy mistake, but a mistake. My girlfriend and I both thought she wasn't fertile; she never had any periods for years, and she'd been to see doctors...


M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • oh wow! that is incredible.

    It's like they said in Jurassic park..."Life finds a way."


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    That's a sign...you were meant to have kids....


    Pertreeko - I've been through it twice so you are totally excused from the daily posting requirement for a while... The good news is it gets better... As everyone else said already, family first...


    Male Tengu Menhir Savant Druid 4 | HP: 34 AC: 17 Initiative: +2 Fort: 5 Ref: 3 Will: 8

    I know Zed, I just felt like checking in so you guys know I'm still alive :)


    Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

    Take your time, and enjoy your family!


    Just giving our Tengu friend the rest of the holiday weekend to catch up - will move things along soon enough...


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • GM I believe you are mistaken about the rounds underwater. Here is the appropriate text:

    If you are underwater, either because you failed a Swim check or because you are swimming underwater intentionally, you must hold your breath. You can hold your breath for a number of rounds equal to twice your Constitution score, but only if you do nothing other than take move actions or free actions. If you take a standard action or a full-round action (such as making an attack), the remainder of the duration for which you can hold your breath is reduced by 1 round. (Effectively, a character in combat can hold his breath only half as long as normal.) After that period of time, you must make a DC 10 Constitution check every round to continue holding your breath. Each round, the DC for that check increases by 1. If you fail the Constitution check, you begin to drown. The DC for the Swim check depends on the water, as given on the table below.

    I bolded the important bits for emphasis.

    I'm interpreting the rules like this:

  • Your 'base' number of rounds you can hold breath underwater is Con x 2, in my case that is 28 rounds.
  • Every round in this context is doubled when a standard or full-round action is taken. In essence, every standard or full-round action counts as 2 rounds underwater.
  • The Con checks to hold breath don't occur until after all normal held-breath rounds have been used up.

    I have been submerged for 5 rounds and taken 4 actions during that time. That should be a total of 9/28 rounds that I can remain submerged without beginning to drown.


  • Grayface - my bad!!! Didn't register the 'twice CON' - was late when I posted last night... So, after the mudlord's smother you are effectively at 14/28 rounds... After Rallos' crit, I am fairly sure that Combat won't last long enough to get you into drowning territory...


    Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

    Just so you know, I'll probably won't be much active from the 29th to the 31th May included.


    Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

    Just to tell you I won't be much online tomorrow.


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Gang, we should be able to 'take a 10' on these swim checks as there is no threat or pressure at the moment.


    Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

    even with take 10, it won't be enough for me, with my armor.
    Can we take 20?


    Yep, fine with that... There is no threat at the moment and the water flow is not strong enough to sweep you away - so I am happy for you to auto-succeed in your navigation up and down the corridor...

    Given that the impact of failure is just trying again until you succeed, let's just say you get to where you need to be...


    ...could someone move Grayface on the map... No Access to PC right now...

    ...you will of course be pleased to hear that this room is called the 'Dangerous Tank'... Good Luck!!!

    ...from a GM perspective, I do like the way in which the flooding of the level has been used to provide different challenges... and, it's probably worth saying that you did well to convince the Undine to leave the level (at least for now) - otherwise you would have been fighting a Summoner and Eidolon at the same time as the Automaton... That might have been a bit too much...


    Now is the time for folks to think about Level 5... Next time you rest it is likely that you will level up...


    Waitng on an action from Rallos... Will GMPC if nothing by tomorrow morning UK time


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Pertreeko,
    Though I appreciate the gesture, I recommend you take advantage of your form that is at home in the water and just attack.

    Ea,
    Can I please get a heal? I'm marginally more effective in melee when I'm conscious!


    Male Tengu Menhir Savant Druid 4 | HP: 34 AC: 17 Initiative: +2 Fort: 5 Ref: 3 Will: 8

    Yep, totally am doing that with my next action, Gray - just didn't want to meta the decision. It's what Pertreeko's first thought was to do, even if it wasn't the most tactically sound thing. Now he'll go on the offensive...


    Everyone may level up to Level 5 – note normal procedure of describing key changes to your characters in the Discussion Thread as you level…

    Some changes this time around though – I would like to implement the optional Automatic Bonus Progression system described in Pathfinder Unchained. It is yet to appear on the Paizo PRD so I have extracted the relevant parts and placed them in the Campaign Tab for your perusal…

    Key parts are that, moving to Level 5, you will get:

    Resistance: At 3rd level, the character gains a +1 resistance bonus on all saving throws.

    Armor Attunement: The character can attune herself to one suit of armour or one shield in her possession; she can change that attunement once per day. If she selects a normal set of clothing as her armour, it counts as having a starting enhancement bonus of +0. The attuned suit of armour gains a +1 enhancement bonus at 4th level.

    Weapon Attunement: The character can attune herself to any one weapon in her possession, and can change that attunement once per day. The attuned weapon gains a +1 enhancement bonus at 4th level.

    Deflection: The character gains a +1 deflection bonus to AC at 5th level.

    Some of you may have magic items that are no longer relevant – Rallos’ +1 Rapier being a case in point although if there are others, please let me know… For all such items, I will suggest a new function…


    Roll20 |Female Halfling Hunter / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 3 | HP 33/33 | AC:21 T:16 FF:16 CMD:16 | F+4 R+9 W+3 (-2 penalty vs fear) | Init+5 | Perc+12
    Crag:
    HP 24/24 | AC:27 T:17 FF:20 CMD:20 | F+2 R+10 W+2 | Perc+8

    Yay! That will do wonders for us.

    As the party camps in in the watery level, Yasmin's small genie companion appears before the party. He sounds extremely excited. "Wow, can you feel it? The power that comes from this place! I can sense it - my magic is returning to me!"

    "I've never seen you so happy before," notes the sorceress.

    Hakan seems content to just float around from portal to portal, soaking in the energy. Eventually, he comes back. "You know, I'm in a good mood. Let me teach you something. With the power of this realm, you can greatly enhance your mastery of water."

    And so, Yasmin continued to grow in her power.

    +6HP
    +1 Diplomacy/Bluff/Spellcraft/Use Magic Device
    Feat: Rime Spell
    Spells:
    See Invisibility (bloodline)
    Glitterdust
    Infernal Healing
    Magic Missile (favored class bonus)


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    sweet...going another lvl of rogue...was thinking going a dip of slayer..maybe later. might change mind to swashbuckler...not sure....


    Roll20 |Female Halfling Hunter / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 3 | HP 33/33 | AC:21 T:16 FF:16 CMD:16 | F+4 R+9 W+3 (-2 penalty vs fear) | Init+5 | Perc+12
    Crag:
    HP 24/24 | AC:27 T:17 FF:20 CMD:20 | F+2 R+10 W+2 | Perc+8

    Rallos, you should consider looking into unchained rogue. It is on the SRD now, and should help strengthen your character. For example, I think the unchained rogue gets dex to damage and weapon finesse.

    -Posted with Wayfinder


    Or even dip a level of Vigilante!!! By day Rallos is a mild-mannered tiefling rogue... But by night he is Spider / Crab / Eel (I'm sure he's been bitten by at least one of those) man!!!

    ...will have a look at the Playtest document this weekend... It's an interesting development from Paizo but I wonder, given we have two different rogues, the slayer, the investigator and the swashbuckler, is there a niche that the new class makes its own?


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • 2nd'd Yasmin's suggestion about the unchained rogue. They are much cooler. The finesse training alone makes such a nice difference. The main drawback being it is restricted to one weapon, but that's not so bad. Dex to damage is excellent.


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    but wouldnt I have to retrain? i thought you had to be one or the other?


    No real problems if you want to rebuild to an Unchained Rogue... Might be a bit of work though? And I'm with Rallos, one or the other surely?


    Roll20 |Female Halfling Hunter / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 3 | HP 33/33 | AC:21 T:16 FF:16 CMD:16 | F+4 R+9 W+3 (-2 penalty vs fear) | Init+5 | Perc+12
    Crag:
    HP 24/24 | AC:27 T:17 FF:20 CMD:20 | F+2 R+10 W+2 | Perc+8

    Agree unchained rogue would surely replace the standard rogue. It's a good trade though, and not much would have to change (same skill points, HP, defenses, etc.). Unchained rogue is more a mechanical fix to the rogue class to help it keep up with other melee classes.

    -Posted with Wayfinder


    Female Human Cleric (10)-Init+1-HP 93/93-AC 22, T13,FF 21-Fort +12,Ref+7,Will+14-Per+10; Channel 6/6 CLWd 6/50 CMWd 25/50 REnWd 50/50

    cleric level 5
    no changes in Bab/saves
    channel 3d6
    spells
    level 3: 1
    Domain spells: speak with dead (Know)/speak with dead (Repose)

    Skills (5)
    Know Religion rank 4 (+1)
    Know Planes Rank 3 (+2)
    Know Engineering Rank 1 (+1)
    Linguistics rank 2 (+1)


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Leveled up in Fighter

  • Gained Weapon Training 1, heavy blades (+1 to attack/damage with one weapon group)
  • Skills: +1 intimidate, +1 climb, +1 acrobatics
  • Feat: Dodge

    New Unchained ABP (Auto-Bonus Progression)

  • +1 resist to saves
  • +1 enhancement to attuned armor
  • +1 enhancement to attuned weapon
  • +1 deflection to AC


  • male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    Happy fathers day to all that have kids....especially you Pertreeko...are you sleeping more now? Lol...


    It was a great Father's Day... Big long bike ride with my 7 y.o.

    Pertreeko / Rallos, you both need to level up to Level 5 and then we can move on with the adventure...


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    I knew there was something I forgot to to yesterday....


    Work travel turned out to be horrendous - precious little internet access and stuck in France for nearly two extra days due to strikes affecting my Eurostar trip - plane back to the UK this evening... Time to catch up with family and sleep and I will get back to normal posting some time tomorrow!!! Thanks everyone for your patience...


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    it's all good man...no worries...


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Hang in there. We'll be here. :)


    Still need levelling up from our friendly Tengu druid…

    In the meantime, consensus from group? Are you heading to the room with the bunyip within? And, Water breathing or holding breath?


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Were the snorkel devices we found magical at all in nature, or were they pretty typical snorkels?
    If we can utilize those to help in any way I think we should.

    Either way, I say lets press on to the bunyip room, even if it means held breath.


    Rallos – I make your HP at Level 5 as 38 (8+1FC+1CON = 10 at Level 1 followed by 4 of 5+1FC+1CON = 4*7 = 28) – you had it down as 31 at Level 4 which tallies with my calculation. Is there something I am missing? Also, can you post a brief ‘highlights of changes’ for your levelling in the discussion thread – it’s worth a Hero Point if you do!!!!

    Grayface – the snorkels are not magical and, in slow moving water and without combat or other pressures, merely taking 10 a load of times will eventually get you to where you need to be… Everyone else happy to move to the Bunyip room?


    Roll20 |Female Halfling Hunter / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 3 | HP 33/33 | AC:21 T:16 FF:16 CMD:16 | F+4 R+9 W+3 (-2 penalty vs fear) | Init+5 | Perc+12
    Crag:
    HP 24/24 | AC:27 T:17 FF:20 CMD:20 | F+2 R+10 W+2 | Perc+8

    Yep, to the bunyip!

    -Posted with Wayfinder


    male Teifling Rogue 9/slayer 1, AC 26 T 22 FF 18, F +11, R +16, W +8, HP 83, Perception +19(+23 traps), Init +11

    sure no prob....

    -took toughness for a feat(hence the extra 5 hp]
    -+1d6 sneak attack
    -no base change to BAB or saves
    -FCB is HP(all 5 lvls actually just to be clear)
    -9 skill pts
    -and the ABP bonuses of course

    edit: just realized i forgot to add toughnes to the profile...my bad...i added it to my notepad sheet but not that one..d'oh!


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • I mentioned this to my other game where I GM but I forgot to mention in here --

    The recent website compatibility changes that Paizo has undergone has essentially cut me off from posting at work. My employer deliberately uses an out of date browser because of a critical software we use that is written based on old code.

    Result = From here on out I will seldom be posting during the hours of about 7:30am - 7pm, pacific standard time. Most of my posts will be coming at night.

    I should still easily be able to do the whole 1/day, but I prefer to post more often, so this sucks for me.

    Just wanted to make everyone aware.


    Congratulations on surviving Sean K. Reynolds' Drowned Level and I bid you welcome to Level 6, the Clockwork Maze by Richard Baker


    Pertreeko, I know you are struggling for time, but levelling up to Level 5 (with the Unchained Bonus Progression) will probably help you out somewhat when you start meeting the occupants of this level!!!


    M Human - F5/B4 | CMB 14/16 CMD 28/30 | AC 25/24, T 14/12, FF 22 | DR 2/-, HP 80 + 27 Temp | F+12/14, R+6, W+9/11, +10/12 vs Fear | Init +2 | Perc +14
    Combat:
  • Gorloth's Fury +19/+14 (+9 BA, +7 Str, +2/+4 Enh/Raging, +1 WF, +1 WT, -3 PA) 2d4+24, 15-20, x2
  • Defense +18/+13 (-4, no PA) 2d4+15, Dodge +3
  • No Rage +15/+10, 2d4+19
  • Friends,
    I just got home from the hospital. I've been away for a couple days. I am feeling mostly okay so I will try to pop in a post when I can but please be patient with me over the next week or two while I am recovering.


    Take it easy fellow... We'll be here whenever you are ready - take all the time you need to get back on your feet...


    Roll20 |Female Halfling Hunter / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 3 | HP 33/33 | AC:21 T:16 FF:16 CMD:16 | F+4 R+9 W+3 (-2 penalty vs fear) | Init+5 | Perc+12
    Crag:
    HP 24/24 | AC:27 T:17 FF:20 CMD:20 | F+2 R+10 W+2 | Perc+8

    Hope you're okay - feel better soon!

    -Posted with Wayfinder

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