Thought it seemed a bit powerful. Still traits are half feats and breath of experience gives +2 to all knowledge and profession checks so seems legit.
Nice sheet.
wait what? I thought Historian only gave a +1 to Knowledge (History) checks and a +1 to Bardic knowledge checks. Was I looking at the wrong trait? I'll go double check that.
Rory, how is your character's concentration check +11? Shouldn't it be +7? It also looks like you got the bonuses for Inspire Competence and Inspire Confidence reversed. And your hit points are a little low.
wait what? I thought Historian only gave a +1 to Knowledge (History) checks and a +1 to Bardic knowledge checks. Was I looking at the wrong trait? I'll go double check that.
There are no bardic knowledge checks in Pathfinder. Only bonuses to knowledge skills. A bardic knowledge check was an entirely different mechanic in D&D v3.5.
Nice sheet.
You may want to download it again. I keep having to fix small mistakes.
My Concentration check is +11 because I took the combat caster feat for an extra +4. As for the trait. here is a link. It's apparently from the Legacy of Fire Campaign. Bardic Knowledge is a class feature for bards even in pathfinder.
Nice one, Eldric. I hope he takes it.
My Concentration check is +11 because I took the combat caster feat for an extra +4. As for the trait. here is a link. It's apparently from the Legacy of Fire Campaign. Bardic Knowledge is a class feature for bards even in pathfinder.
Combat Casting is a situational modifier. It doesn't apply on all Concentration checks. I will make a note of it on the new sheet.
Bardic knowledge is a class feature in both editions, but they work very differently.
"You're a chief, yeah?" Eldric asks Sootscale. "See, bein' a spymaster's nothing like bein' a chief. A spy might need to hide himself in order to find information. Hide his face, his name. History doesn't remember the ones in the dark.
But the marshals? They get remembered, and they got quite a bit of power. They make sure that people follow the rules of the kingdom. Keep the order. It's a lot like bein' the chief," Eldric pauses lightly for effect, "But with twice the power."
bardic knowledge adds half level on knowledge checks and I can use all knoweldges untrained. Historian adds a +1 to that so it's a total of a +3. I'll be sure to make the note about combat casting.
Oh, to answer the Historian trait question:
Historian is a trait from the Legacy of Fire Player's Guide; Legacy of Fire was made back when Paizo was still using the 3.5 rules, back before they created the Pathfinder rules.
Ah, ok. I had no idea. Then I'll leave it for DM to decide. Like I said, I have no issue in picking a new trait.
"You're a chief, yeah?" Eldric asks Sootscale. "See, bein' a spymaster's nothing like bein' a chief. A spy might need to hide himself in order to find information. Hide his face, his name. History doesn't remember the ones in the dark.
But the marshals? They get remembered, and they got quite a bit of power. They make sure that people follow the rules of the kingdom. Keep the order. It's a lot like bein' the chief," Eldric pauses lightly for effect, "But with twice the power."
[dice=Diplomacy]1d20+6
Sootscale is convinced, but insists that he be given a big shiny badge. So big it can double as a shield.
If it's from Legacy of Fire, it is also likely a Campaign Trait. Those are generally exclusive to specific campaigns.
Well it's about 11 EST which is about time for me to get to bed. I got class in the morning. I'll be back in the morning after I'm done with classes, before if I'm lucky.
Riva turns her attention to the little cretin. I will have the smiths begin work on it right away. We shall make it...extra shiny for you.
Eldric, how did you allocate your skill ranks?
It looks like it's a human racial trait, so there's no problem on that note. Link.
I'm liking Sootscale already. I imagine something like this for the relative size. :P
Bluff 1, Diplomacy 1, Handle Animal 2, Intimidate 1, K (Nature) 1, Ride 3, Sense Motive 1, Sleight of Hand 1.
Hm, looks like I missed one rank. Adding in one rank in Disable Device, then.
We seem to have covered the basics then at least when someone gets an Ultimate Champaign spreadSheet up.
I would also like to have a calendar that everyone could mark their down time in if anyone could do that?
So any decision on a kingdom name?
Bluff 1, Diplomacy 1, Handle Animal 2, Intimidate 1, K (Nature) 1, Ride 3, Sense Motive 1, Sleight of Hand 1.
Hm, looks like I missed one rank. Adding in one rank in Disable Device, then.
Shouldn't you have at least 16 ranks altogether? (20 if you put your favored class bonus into ranks.)
4 x level - 4 for intelligence + 4 human bonus = 16
So any decision on a kingdom name?
That Latin one mentioned above was fine I think.
So you are starting with 50 Bp from the colonist and the authority the charter and Scoot scales gives you. Bp is the ability to direct and organize work and labor on a kingdom level. I think you start off with some buildings as well. I'll need to look it up.
I took the Heart of the Wilderness racial, but apparently I completely forgot to put it anywhere in my profile. This has now been updated.
Working on the Kingmaker calendar, updating names from Earth to Golarion.
Nice calendar!
Here's your sheet, Eldric. I couldn't find stats for your mount, so I improvised. Let me know if something doesn't look right, or is otherwise in need of changing.
O.K. normally I would say Mass combat rules are junk. But this bard and cavalier can really boost an army.
O.K. normally I would say Mass combat rules are junk. But this bard and cavalier can really boost an army.
Just keep an eye out on those bonuses with the same type. They don't stack.
Are you really considering junking the mass combat rules? I was really looking forward to trying those. :'(
23rd Gozran, 4707 A.R. - Wealday was the start of a new day. Not just any day. To day was the day that the settlement of Caerulus was founded. In the ruins of the former Stag Lords fortress. Under the charter given by Bervory. This band of hardy adventures would being their greatest challenge yet.
Whose Bervory? Also, are we beginning our greatest challenge yet? Or are we actually physically our own greatest challenge? ;P
Use spellcheck guys. You have the time for it.
Riva wastes no time directing hired workers into making repairs to the castle ruin and towards construction of the foundations of her library some distance further down the hill.
"No. No. No! This goes here and that goes there! What do you think you're doing with that? That's not what it's made for! Don't you know anything? What incompetence! This is going to take forever! Where's the foreman? Foreman! Oh there you are. What is with your men? They're collectively as intelligent as a lobotomized goblin! Did you train them? Yes it was you, wasn't it? This is all your fault you know. By the time they get it right I will have died of old age--to say nothing of your workers, or any hope for our efforts here!"
Hurray for 8 Charisma. :P
O.K. normally I would say Mass combat rules are junk. But this bard and cavalier can really boost an army.Just keep an eye out on those bonuses with the same type. They don't stack.
Are you really considering junking the mass combat rules? I was really looking forward to trying those. :'(
I don't like how they take the PC's off center stage.
I thought you were making a smithy to make the badge?
What are we doing with the ruin's guys? Making it into a functioning castle again?
I don't like how they take the PC's off center stage.
That's as good a reason as I've ever heard.
I thought you were making a smithy to make the badge?
Riva said she was going to get some blacksmiths to begin work on it. Not necessarily build a blacksmith's forge. It was also more to placate the creature, rather than something to actually be acted upon immediately. With as many workers as are likely around, though, finding someone to hammer out a shiny shield badge shouldn't be all that hard.
Have to say not sure why you are repairing the castle when you have no unrest yet.
Edit:
I would suggest building a smithy. Gives +1 Eco and stability also allows you to make a badge. Of course repair the castle gets a castle and because you are repairing not building it is discounted by half. But you could do that later.
Uh...so we have a place to stay that isn't dirt and trees? Also, doesn't the castle give a bonuses to everything as well as a nice defensible position? :P
That's as good a reason as I've ever heard.
;)
I'm off to bed.
Good night.
Edit:
Another question what alignment do you all want the kingdom to be?
I'm good with NG for the kingdom's alignment. That's always my default alignment....
Good night.
Edit:
Another question what alignment do you all want the kingdom to be?
Hah. I was just about to ask that. I've been reading up on Ultimate Campaign's changes to the initial Kingmaker rules (it's been years since I used them) and that was one of the first things it said you need to decide upon.
As a player, NG has generally been my go-to alignment, but in this case, I think Riva would be pushing strongly for a lawful community.
GM, where are we going to be posting the technical kingdom stats and making kingdom related checks?
Here, or in the gameplay thread? I was thinking about making a "forum template" for the kingdom rules that we could just copy and paste as needed.
Well, Adular Garess would be all for promoting his religion, which mostly means a Chaotic Neutral, or at least Chaotic, outlook. Given Riva is pushing Law, and our Ruler is angling for good, we might balance out at NG as the majority yet. Though, as High Priest, I would hope Adular would be shaping the souls and beliefs of the common folk.
Oh yes, we'll be turning farmhands into berserkers and dainty milkmaids into bloodthirsty amazons in record time...
That's the dream anyway :)
As for buildings, Garess is going to want at least a Shrine to Gorum, a temple or Cathedral would be preferable but I know that can get expensive.
Argh. I was hoping that with a 14 Cha, +6 Diplomacy, Adular would come across as boisterous but likable. The dice and I need to have a talk about my plans
We should post the technical kingdom stats here. I'll try and keep whatever we end up using to record them updated.
"Which good does he worship anyway?"
Man, you really know how to change the meaning of a sentence. :P
*sigh* Yeah... if the High Priest can't get any respect, I'm going to have to throw him off a cliff.
I found an updated Excel sheet we can use for Kingdom Tracking. It utilizes all of the rules from Ultimate Campaign.
I recommend you guys bookmark it and reference it regularly.
I agree with the whole C+L=N logic put forth by our barbarian. We all seem to be in agreement on the good aspect, so I guess our kingdom is going to be NG.
EDIT: Fixed Eldric's horse's name.
The excel sheet won't open for me. Says it exceeds the 5 MB limit.
Same for me.
@Ravingdork: Thanks for making the character sheet, by the way! Much appreciated.
...But the kingdom tracker excel won't open for me either. :P
5 MB limit? Is that a OneDrive limitation or something? If so, I've not heard of it before.
Sorry, we can't open your workbook in Excel Web App because it exceeds the 5 MB file size limit.
that's what comes up when I try to open it.
Click the link and try downloading it directly maybe?
It doesn't really give me an option to download. When it starts to load up, that pop up comes up and that's it. If I click ok, the window closes.
I'll see what I can figure out.
GM, what terrain type is our current hex and how much of our starting BP is it going to cost to ready the land for a settlement in the first place? I think I read 1 BP, leaving us with 49 for the castles and other buildings, but I can't remember of the terrain modified that or not.
I want to get an idea of where we are in the process (I think we're a little ahead of the mechanics in our roleplay).
Plains with water borders.
Are we ahead? Rory wants to get together with everyone to plan things out and the only thing that really seems to be done is repars/upgrades to the keep.
Are we ahead? Rory wants to get together with everyone to plan things out and the only thing that really seems to be done is repars/upgrades to the keep.
Which we can't technically do until we've set up the area in preparation for building.