Master Summoner, IIRC, can use its multiple summon monster spells at a time alongside its eidolon. Which is, of course, ungodly awesome. :D
Hrm... so it's Inquisitor/Summoner Thing/Ranger/Barbarian, then? You seem to have quite a few guys with healing capability.
The party that's currently active is...
Inquisitor (Gorgoron). He's using a firearms-based archetype we're trying out for this game, and he's mostly a detective and a ranged combatant. He'll be able to help with healing, but it's doubtful he could carry the group in that respect. We're still early the game, but I foresee him functioning as a jack-of-all trades within the group in addition to the premier ranged fighter.
Barbarian (Ansruth). He's our bruiser. Has a big sword, and he hits people with it. Again, we haven't seen to much combat yet, but it looks like he's going to be our front line.
Summoner. She's got the master summoner archtype, so even though her eidelon is pretty nasty right now, it's not going to stay that way for long. She's our primary arcanist, and will probably be getting a lot minions later on. Very good for the group's action economy.
Ranger. Wilderness character and our secondary meleer. I'm still not certain on the direction he's going to be taking, but again, most of the PCs are as yet untested.
Master Summoner, IIRC, can use its multiple summon monster spells at a time alongside its eidolon. Which is, of course, ungodly awesome.
It's cool, yeah, but if I'm reading it right, the Master Summoner may only have one summon spell active unless they dismiss their eidelon, in which case they can cast more.
Master Summoner, IIRC, can use its multiple summon monster spells at a time alongside its eidolon. Which is, of course, ungodly awesome.It's cool, yeah, but if I'm reading it right, the Master Summoner may only have one summon spell active unless they dismiss their eidelon, in which case they can cast more.
...ooh.
Still neat. :D
Hrm. Honestly, I could try making a divine caster or a full-on arcane caster for you if you'd like. What's the character creation rules?
Ugh. Playing a casty. *shudder*
Master Summoner, IIRC, can use its multiple summon monster spells at a time alongside its eidolon. Which is, of course, ungodly awesome.It's cool, yeah, but if I'm reading it right, the Master Summoner may only have one summon spell active unless they dismiss their eidelon, in which case they can cast more....ooh.
Still neat. :D
Hrm. Honestly, I could try making a divine caster or a full-on arcane caster for you if you'd like. What's the character creation rules?
Ugh. Playing a casty. *shudder*
I know the closest I have been to playing a casty is a Summoner. And before you go into the wait they are a castys I made him into a melee character that flanks with his summons.
Well, nobody else in my usual group is really capable of the accounting needed to play a full caster, so I usually end up doing it, or we end up going without.
Let's just say part of the reason AM is so very good at hitting them right where it hurts is because I know exactly what makes arcane casters tick.
If you need me to, I'll join as a full cleric. That should be plenty of heal and buff spells (but not so much in the damage dept.)
Let me look through your rules.
I've got an idea for a Changling cleric that I might want to try.
Character creation is 20 point buy with 500 gp and two traits (run them by me if they aren't from the APG, though). The party is currently 2nd level, which means you are too, but they haven't hit any juicy caches yet, thus the decreased wealth (it's coming though, don't worry). To keep you on par with the rest of the group, the only magic items you may purchase at creation are disposable items such as wands, potions, scrolls, and arrows. Masterwork items are okay.
Available source material is the Core Rulebook and the APG. Content from UM and UC will usually be allowed in, just check with me first. For the most part I'm only barring options that blatantly defy the flavor of the campaign (like a saurian shaman). All core classes and classes from the APG are allowed, as well as the Magus. No gunslingers, samurai, ninjas, or samurai. Established house rules are in the campaign info section. As far as other books, just run it by me first. PF books only, plox.
I'd also encourage you to read the Carrion Crown Player's guide to get a feel for what's going on, however, I'm not requiring new characters to have a connection to Petros Lorrimer. Rather, you need some reason for coming to Ravengro, and you'll be traveling there with a small entourage of NPCs being lead by an affluent noble from Caliphas who's come to pay his respects to the late Professor. It can be just about any reason you want, as long as your character is the type to allow himself to get wrapped up in crazy events. If you like, it certainly could be a connection to Professor Lorrimer (the common thread to the rest of the PCs). You might be a scholar interested in the old prison near town, rumored to be direly haunted, or perhaps you're a friend or associate of another PC (you'd have to work that out with them) or of one of the NPCs you're traveling with.
EDIT: Cool beans, Alyoma. If you'd both like to try, I don't see any reason we couldn't accomodate two new PCs (especially since we're also missing a thiefish character, though that's a lighter priority). In fact, I had already been in the process of tweaking the adventure for 6 PCs, and I'd hate to have to scrap the extra challenges I've been working in.
I guess if Alyoma's taking care of the cleric, I should do something about a thiefy skillmonkey character.
Hrm... I will have to think about this. I could make an archaeologist or a rogue, though Rogues have never meshed well with me (I can do them, but they end up weird). ...I'll throw some builds off a wall at myself today and see what I can come up with.
Would you allow a scorpion whip from ultimate combat? It is a whip that deals normal damage. Also, would you allow the archaeologist archetype from ultimate combat? It should be on the srd.
Alyoma, if you do play a cleric, you should consider playing a Cleric of Pharasma. We have been interacting with the temple of Pharasma quite heavily, and have been interacting with several (mostly nameless) acolytes and priests. If you were one of them, it would allow you to be integrated into the party very quickly.
I was looking at Pharasma for this game.
Of course, I think I'm going to have to work out the whole thing first.
So it may be later that I get everything put together to my satisfaction.
By the way, how do you do HP?
It occurs to me that this might be easier if we just talk in the other ooc discussion thread. Any issues with discussing this over there? I'd like to get the input of the other players.
So, since China has a recurring hatred of all things Google, does anyone else know of a good, easy-to-use, online (can't stress this enough-I can't download any program onto my work PC...my RDO would probably fire me if he knew I was playing D&D on company time) mapping program, or would be willing to transfer maps into a format that Dehrisan would be able to view regularly? He's missing out on my beautiful excell art.
Map works now thanks Ringtail and it is such a nice map.
:) Lack of internet inflection makes me doubt sincerity.
BTW...Any guesses?
:) Lack of internet inflection makes me doubt sincerity.
I am shocked that you doubt my sincerity. As for the guess no idea.
Oh, I may not be online Sunday/Monday. I'm moving this weekend.
Posted my guess. It's short, so I'll repeat it here. I would guess that anything that is not daylight, or does not create a true daylight effect would be considered artificial illumination.
So...Ansruath: going to learn to cast a spell or two at some point so you aren't the odd one in the party? ;)
So...Ansruath: going to learn to cast a spell or two at some point so you aren't the odd one in the party? ;)
Nah I like being a melee. Though magus might help with that.
*Sigh*
My last thread got locked before any fights even started. Nobody appreciates Ringtail's stance on the important issues.
*Sigh*
My last thread got locked before any fights even started. Nobody appreciates Ringtail's stance on the important issues.
If nothing else, creeping out AM is not a good sign. The dude fights wizards. And that means he regularly goes toe to toe with Balors.
I aim to please.
Hmm...first thread of mine that's been locked since I rolled out the old caster vs martial thread with CoDzilla over a year ago (I think it was actually wizard vs fighter at the time, specifically; all in good fun, of course-I play monks/barbarians/rogues far too often to much care about the debate).
EDIT: Yes, dirty secrets out- I was one of those guys. It is a guilty pleasure to sit back, tent my fingers, and laugh maniaclly as I scream "dance puppets! DANCE!" at my computer screen.
I generally found that old thing debate good for some fun. Then I accidentally won it typing in all-caps with horrible grammar. For the martial character.
I'm still not sure how the flying heck that happened, but I'll take it. New subject seems to be how things 'ain't proper fantasy' and all that stuff. I'm staying out of this one. I invented one meme by accident already, I don't even want to think about this one.
New subject seems to be how things 'ain't proper fantasy' and all that stuff.
Considering I've ecclectic tastes I've also steered clear...I might swing by for a drive-by post though. ;)
That bothers me how the hell can something not be proper fantasy. Fantasy kind of goes over well everything....
Speaking of fantasy, I'm trying to find a new series to read, since I've just finished off book 5 of Song of Ice and Fire. Does anyone have a suggestion for something else of good quality to read?
Here are some of my other favorites to give you an idea what I'm looking for:
Lord of the Rings (of course)
Wheel of Time (Robert Jordan)
Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)
Shannara (Terry Brooks)
Codex Alera (Jim Butcher)
Sword of Truth (Terry Goodkind - not really as good as the others on the list, but diverting at least)
Symphony of Ages (Elizabeth Haydon)
Dark Tower (Stephen King)
I've read some young adult series as well and some are pretty good:
Harry Potter (Rowling)
Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis)
Eragon (Chris Paolini)
The Hunger Games (Suzanne Collins)
I'm not as big a fan of the more episodic titles, like the Drizzt stories, though I've read a few, nor of authors who rehash their stories to death like David Eddings (Terry Brooks is guilty of this too, but gets a pass since I started reading them when I was quite young, and I've kept up with his newer stuff out of nostalgia). I'm wary of diving into an author with 40 books out as well, since it's hard to find good starting points in their work (L.E. Modesitt, Mercedes Lackey, etc)
Don't suggest Twilight.
Any suggestions?
Speaking of fantasy, I'm trying to find a new series to read, since I've just finished off book 5 of Song of Ice and Fire. Does anyone have a suggestion for something else of good quality to read?
I've read some young adult series as well and some are pretty good:
Harry Potter (Rowling)
Chronicles of Narnia (C.S. Lewis)
Eragon (Chris Paolini)
The Hunger Games (Suzanne Collins)I'm not as big a fan of the more episodic titles, like the Drizzt stories, though I've read a few, nor of authors who rehash their stories to death like David Eddings (Terry Brooks is guilty of this too, but gets a pass since I started reading them when I was quite young, and I've kept up with his newer stuff out of nostalgia). I'm wary of diving into an author with 40 books out as well, since it's hard to find good starting points in their work (L.E. Modesitt, Mercedes Lackey, etc)
Don't suggest Twilight.
Any suggestions?
Warded Man and the one after it I thought were really good.
Savage Messiah I thought was really good and I had just read that one book. It seems to be a part in the series.
As for Dave Eddings I loved his books, I thought they were better than Terry Brooks. I read Terry Brooks first to.
The Princess Bride, by William Goldman, is pretty brilliant (and nothing like the movie).
I don't know if you're set on fantasy, but if you aren't, William Gibson's "Neuromancer" is also very good.
I've heard good things about Neuromancer. That it pretty much defined Cyberpunk. I actually have read The Princess Bride, and I actually found it pretty dry, particularly the whole intro about buying the book for his son, etc, etc. The differences were interesting, that Prince Humperdink was portrayed is a very different light, being extremely fierce and physically imposing, for instance. All in all, I thought the movie was much better though.
I've looked around a bit on the internet and I've found a fair number of people talking about Steven Erikson and his Malazan Book of the Fallen. I think that is what I am going to try next. Anyone read it?
I've heard good things about Neuromancer. That it pretty much defined Cyberpunk. I actually have read The Princess Bride, and I actually found it pretty dry, particularly the whole intro about buying the book for his son, etc, etc. The differences were interesting, that Prince Humperdink was portrayed is a very different light, being extremely fierce and physically imposing, for instance. All in all, I thought the movie was much better though.
I've looked around a bit on the internet and I've found a fair number of people talking about Steven Erikson and his Malazan Book of the Fallen. I think that is what I am going to try next. Anyone read it?
I have read some of the Malazan Books of the Fallen. I did not like them at all others seems to love him to death. Other books I forgot are Glen Cook's Black Company and Brents Weeks Night Angel books. I have not read either yet I have the first three Black Company books I am about to start this week so give you more information on that later. As for Night Angel my friend swears by them I was going to pick them up today but did not have enough cash on hand.
Just checking in from my work PC (not much time to post I'm afraid, the suits are in house doing an audit so I can't be caught messing around online). Got everything moved (I'm not homeless- YAY!). My internet will be hooked up in my new apartment sometime tomorrow afternoon, so expect me to actually make DMing post by mid-evening tomorrow.
Any suggestions?
The Magicians - good book, disapointing ending. Sequel came out a while back, I haven't had the chance to pick it up.
The Name of the Wind - amazing story, great fantasy, definately going to be remembered. Quite possibly my favorite book.
Oh! I remember two others, if you don't mind the main characters being cats.
The Book of Night with Moon, and it's sequel, To Visit the Queen.
I have to second the inclusion of the Black Company books.
They are very good reading.
The first 3 are a complete storyline, with the 4th adding a final to the story.
From that point on, they are a new story arc, and still very good.
In case anyone was wondering about my recent disappearance: My days off this week ended up falling consecutively, and as many of you know, since the mishap with my notebook several months back I am without a home computer and post primarily from my work PC(I have a borrowed laptop that is rather slow and only occasionally sees fit to recognize the internet network). It is all right though. Not being able to access the internet for 2 days let me toy with the gift my roommate got me for my birthday and remove it as a distraction (Honest Hearts for Fallout N.V. is a surprisingly large DLC).
So...how does everyone feel about the PF MMO news?
I was all for it until I saw there will be Open World PvP. That pretty much signs me off of any game.
I kind of felt the same way. Not that I currently own a computer to play MMOs on anyway (and I doubt my workplace would appreciate me trying to install something onto my office PC). Because of the above I haven't paid too much attention to the news, but if there is a monthly subscription fee then it really would feel a lot like a blatant grab for cash.
I was all for it until I saw there will be Open World PvP. That pretty much signs me off of any game.
So I should roll a barbarian...
First non-Paizo-staff member character: AM BARBARIAN.
First non-Paizo-staff member character: AM BARBARIAN.
And it will displease me because someone ganked the idea.
Hey if AM BARBARIAN is going to be in play I will play, who going to mess with you if you, if you hang out with AM BARBARIAN.
Hey if AM BARBARIAN is going to be in play I will play, who going to mess with you if you, if you hang out with AM BARBARIAN.
Castys with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.
AKA: free exp
If I said I wasn't at least going to give it a try, it would be a lie, but it's a little early to say anything more than that, I think. Frankly, PvP has always been one of my favorite parts of MMOs, ESPECIALLY when it happens outside of designated battle areas.
That being said, the announcement makes me a little nervous. It seems like a pretty ambitious undertaking, especially given that there's a new company being created (by Paizo) for the project. I just hope that it doesn't pull too much away from the PFRPG. The hint that the two will be tied together sounds like it could far too easily make a commitment to the MMO necessary to fully comprehend future products, which as much as I hate to admit it, I could see Paizo doing, given the myriad of sourcebooks they draw on in other supplements (off-hand, I know that Carrion Crown requires Bestiary 2 to run as written). Thus far, it hasn't been problematic, because most products warranted purchase on their own merits, but if Paizo takes the same philosophy with an entirely new medium... I dunno, it's just a lot to ask. It's a little early to make such predictions with any kind of certainty, though.
I'm also a little sad to hear about the kingdom-building elements that will apparently being in the game. Pathfinder to me has always been about making the PCs the stars, and it seems like an MMO translation ought to focus on characters over kingdoms.
If I said I wasn't at least going to give it a try, it would be a lie, but it's a little early to say anything more than that, I think. Frankly, PvP has always been one of my favorite parts of MMOs, ESPECIALLY when it happens outside of designated battle areas.
I like the possibility of PvP, but as someone who doesn't dedicate very much time to video games I like having the option of not participating and being penalized for not investing as much effort as others. If I get a computer that can run it, I'll probably give it a shot, but I'm not big on dungeon crawling. If I could just make a skill based character that runs a functioning business and interacts with people when I like to kill time I would be happy. The last MMO I played was Diablo (the first one), and even that was only briefly, so I'm not sure what to expect on that front.
That being said, the announcement makes me a little nervous. It seems like a pretty ambitious undertaking, especially given that there's a new company being created (by Paizo) for the project. I just hope that it doesn't pull too much away from the PFRPG.
That was something I worried about as well. I was hoping that Paizo would focus most of its efforts on table-top gaming products until they got a bit more ground beneath themselves. I don't know what their monatary situation is like, but they might be spreading themselves a little thin and detracting focus from their main fanbase.
I'm also a little sad to hear about the kingdom-building elements that will apparently being in the game. Pathfinder to me has always been about making the PCs the stars, and it seems like an MMO translation ought to focus on characters over kingdoms.
RTS elements I could actually get into a little more. I like resource management and I like to think that I'm pretty good at it- it is probably one of the reasons I tend to have an easier time building prepared spellcasters than martial characters, whom I often struggle with.
I myself really dislike PvP. This goes back to when I played MMOs with my ex. We preferred going after monsters than going after other players. Why if a game has open world PvP I do not play it at all. Hope you guys like the game though. If pbp still up and running when it comes out can tell me about it.
I sure hope it is still up an running-we're only just closing in on the end of book 1 of RotRL now; and my schedule will be opening up again soon, so I'll have to see who in my Night Below games are still interested in raising them from the dead before long.