
Lars Andronsa |

A week without any posts from a DM is usually the time where I start considering options.
Way I see it we can give Jammin more time, which is something I can endure personally but not longer than an extra three to five days. Next option is we start looking for another DM to take over, and finally option number three; throw in the towel, give ourselves a pat on the back and start scouring recruitment threads once more.

Doctor Gii |

I'm of a mind to give him more time. I've been dying to play RoW, but the two previous times have died roughly right before where we are right now. It's probably just real life catching up to Jammin, and I don't doubt he'll be back sooner or later.

Mirri Willowthir |

I would agree, give him a bit more time, but if he doesn't return then I would vastly prefer to try and find another gm as I've been dying to play this one thru too.

'Mother' Theora Rowe |

I'm foolishly optimistic when it comes to waiting for GMs. If we decide to bring in someone else, though, I'll run with it. We have an interesting party here, and I'd hate to lose this so soon.
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GM Jammin' |

I am so sorry I have been gone. I also am sorry for the disappearance without notice. I kept saying that I'd get to it later that day, or early the next morning. At this point though, it is apparent to me that I've also been lying to myself about the amount of time I would have. I don't think I can continue running this. I am sorry, especially because as Theora said, we have an intersting party that I love. I hope you can find another GM to run this, and while I haven't been around to play, I'm more than willing to help your new GM get settled in any way I can.

Grimkell son of Ogmundr |

Thanks Jammin'. Too bad you are too busy, I was really looking forward to you GMing.
Well, if anyone knows a good GM, it would help. Otherwise, we can post on the recruitment thread. I have done it with a group before and it was successful (if only for a few months).
I'll ask my other GM and see what she thinks. However, I doubt she has this AP.

'Mother' Theora Rowe |

I know a couple of good GMs, but I think they're both at full capacity. I'll be sorry to see you go, Jammin'; I enjoyed playing with you!

Lars Andronsa |

Thanks for asking Mirri. Now we'll just wait on Grimkell to see if we need to start a recruitment thread for a GM or not.
Speaking of recruitment threads and GMs, nothing annoys me in recruitment threads like the GM not informing his potential recruits what type of character personalities they are looking for: if you are looking for a group filled with nothing but heroes and defenders of justice than it would really help to say that as part of the recruitment rules. That way I won't waste my time by submitting an antihero who has no hope of being selected.
Apologies for the rant, I just went through a recruitment that had such a situation. Which if anything has taught me to ask about what kind of personalities and alignments the GM is looking for should they not mention that information themselves.

GM Soul |

As if from thin air, a man falls into the dirt, quickly picking himself up to dust off the residual muck.
Okay. I know you didn't literally mean drop. He promptly waves to everyone before posturing himself with both hands folded in front of him.
Afternoon everyone! I tend to keep in character for a lot of my alias's and characters regardless of the situation, so if this bothers you, please let me know and I will stop!
My name is Elijah, Eli for short. If you'd like to call me Soul to make things easier, that is fine as well! I messaged Mirri about taking over the campaign as I have been watching your guy's game-play and discussion since the recruitment ended (I was Kaix Eldwyn). Might I say, I'm intrigued by all of you and wish to help you guys continue this awesome Adventure Path!.
- A little bit about me:
- I have been DM'ing Pathfinder for about 4-5 years via Skype, Roll20, and live gaming.
- Yes, although it may be concerning, this would be my first PbP campaign if you would all have me.
- As far as my experience with this Adventure Path, I DM'd a group who got to the end of Book 2, but it broke apart before it could finish. I have access to all of the books and resources needed for all of the rules for any questions that I do not know off of the top of my head. I usually make judgement calls for odd ball issues, and then find a ruling later, so no worries!
I can't exactly think of any other answers to give to potential questions, so if you do have anymore, please let me know!
If you all are worried or not interested in me DM'ing for all of you, I entirely understand. I am just a stranger stalking your adventure after all! (Kidding. Don't take that seriously :P)

GM Soul |

I wouldn't mind continuing. I've wanted to play Gii and this AP for a long time.
Sounds good! If everyone else is fine with this, I can get started as soon as I am able to gain control of the forum (if that is what needs to be done). I don't really have any change of rules from GM Jammin' when it comes to posting. Once a day is fine for me since I can post from work, and despite my time with family, I can definitely do more than one post over the weekend if need be.
I prefer to use Roll20 for maps like he does, although that part might be difficult to gain access to as he controls that campaign, nor do I know where your positions are (if any) on the map since I can't see it.
I'm sure we'll figure out something if we all agree to do it this way. I'll wait until then before I take action; just let me know!

Mirri Willowthir |

Not sure where the others are, I imagine they're tied up, seems like all of my games have had little to nothing occur today, not sure why. If you haven't done so you might pm them to let them know you're willing, just in case they haven't noticed the activity in here.
As for game play, you can post, I assume, like the rest of us, so you can always start things off while you wait for the game to be officially signed over for you. As for that process, I'm not 100% sure on it.

Grimkell son of Ogmundr |

Personally, I would greatly prefer a GM who has experience ( no offense GM Soul). The other GM I had who had never played PBP before got overwhelmed quickly and quit the game (Lars can attest to this, he was in that game). Playing PBP can be much more demanding than one would expect.
On that note, my GM from the other said that she might be interested and will look at things in the following two days.

Mirri Willowthir |

Grim does have a point, it would be better to get one who has experience, especially since we are already started and APs are a rather large undertaking.
Since Grim has a potential one who has experience I'm willing to see if the individual is interested in taking it before making a decision either way. If she is then I appreciate your willingness to step in Soul, regardless of who ends up running it.

'Mother' Theora Rowe |

Just so y'all don't think I'm bailing.
I'm here, but I'm ambivalent. I have some bigger issues going on right now (finding a new job; a lung infection that hasn't gone away in over two months; finding a new place to live; finding a new psychiatrist), so I'm putting a lot of my energy into that. I'm happy for you folks to make this call without me, and whatever you decide on, I'll go with. Whatever happens, I'll continue playing, and using this game as an escape from all my drama.

Lars Andronsa |

Just so y'all don't think I'm bailing.
I'm here, but I'm ambivalent. I have some bigger issues going on right now (finding a new job; a lung infection that hasn't gone away in over two months; finding a new place to live; finding a new psychiatrist), so I'm putting a lot of my energy into that. I'm happy for you folks to make this call without me, and whatever you decide on, I'll go with. Whatever happens, I'll continue playing, and using this game as an escape from all my drama.
Hope you feel better soon, we'll probably get this show on the road soon enough.
Personally, I would greatly prefer a GM who has experience ( no offense GM Soul). The other GM I had who had never played PBP before got overwhelmed quickly and quit the game (Lars can attest to this, he was in that game). Playing PBP can be much more demanding than one would expect.
On that note, my GM from the other said that she might be interested and will look at things in the following two days.
I am in agreement with Grimkell. While I appreciate the offer GM Soul, I'd much rather prefer a more experienced GM take over, because as Grimkell mentioned; we have not had the best of experiences with GMs new to PBP, because yes it can become too much to bear for someone new to it.

GM Soul |

Then it is decided then! :)
Lars and Grimkell -- I entirely understand your points and am happy to say I've had my fair share of fall-outs as well! That being said, I do hope you all obtain an experienced GM to continue your adventures, as I am more than excited to see the future heroes (or anti-hero in Lars' case) and their development!
Gii and Mirri -- Thank you for even considering me and advising me to speak with you all! It's like stepping into your favorite comic book, I suppose.
I wish you all luck on your adventures!
POOF

DM Twilight |

Hello everyone, I am the DM that Grimkell spoke of. I have several years pbp experience, but I will tell you honestly that DMing is relatively new to me. If you would like to look at the campaigns I am running to get a feel for where I'm at at a DM now, please feel free to do so (however, I recommend making your judgments based on the mid to later pages and not the starting pages since I was still getting the swing of things). I am in the process of reading through what you have now, and with your consent will take over the game. However, I have another player who will very likely wish to join if I take over. I have been planing to start a Reign of Winter campaign in the near future for his sake (he's a close friend of mine) as it is one that he's extremely interested in playing. Grimkell can attest to this players ability (he has far more experience than I both as a player and as a DM in tabletop and pbp). I've encouraged him to read over the thread as well and decide if he wishes to join, and if so with what character. Anyway, hello, and thank you for considering me!

Lars Andronsa |

If you don't mind I would like to ask a few questions and have somethings cleared up.
What will be using for maps and such? Also since you want to bring someone else in is it safe to assume that the encounters should see a hike in difficulty? That's all I have for now. I've yet to look over your post history but I plan to do so and will probably come back with more inquiries. Apologies in advance if you find this annoying, but I find it's best to have a better understanding of each others styles of rping and plans for the campaign before we actually begin playing.

DM Twilight |

I use google drawings for maps and share the link for everyone to move their own thing around. It's quick and easy. I would not change the encounters unless it became apparent that they were too easy, or it was something that you asked for as a group. I always welcome questions, as a DM I insist on feedback, I don't get upset when my actions are questioned (if I forget a rule or do something unusual) as long as it's handled with respect and doesn't turn into a game of let's question the DM's every single move, I try to be flexible, and no, I don't always stick to the AP. I might change some things up from time to time, and I will definitely throw in little things that have nothing to do with the AP - mini-quests, if you will.

Mirri Willowthir |

I'm fine with having an additional player if he decides he wants to join, the more the merrier imo. One of the things I really like about pbp is that you can easily take the time to look up a rules issue and not really slow the game down any, makes handling disagreements so much easier.
I am ultimately glad to have you and look forward to the progression of the game.

Doctor Gii |

In all honesty, I think an extra player would probably make things a little more unwieldy than they already are.
However, in the interest of what's best for the group, I'd be willing to step out. I have student teaching starting in early August, so it's actually probably better that I reduce the number of games I'm involved in, anyway.

Grimkell son of Ogmundr |
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I am obviously pro you (Twilight), since I invited you
. As for Dragon Blood not being interested in joining, will that influence your own willingness to take up this game? I thought that him being interested in Reign of Winter was an important factor for you.
With Mirri, Jamaracus and I willing to continue with you, and Theora going with the group, should we simply go with the change (we have majority), or wait for more inquiries form Lars?
@Theora: sorry for the delay, but I wanted to make sure to state that I hope you heal soon, get a good employment, and find a new psychiatrist. Really, I hope you get better!

DM Twilight |

Grimkell, it was an important factor initially but I decided that really there is no real reason why I can't run the AP again another time when he is ready to take on another game. I will remind him, however, that I still need to borrow his books which shouldn't be an issue.
Doctor Gii will you still be stepping out?

Doctor Gii |

Sorry, but yeah. The more I try to justify staying, the more I realize how much work I have ahead of me. I don't want to have the game grind to a screeching halt because I end up needing to write up a zillion lesson plans or whatever.
Once I graduate in December, I can see what I can do, but the next couple months are going to be crazy for me.

Lars Andronsa |

Sorry, but yeah. The more I try to justify staying, the more I realize how much work I have ahead of me. I don't want to have the game grind to a screeching halt because I end up needing to write up a zillion lesson plans or whatever.
Once I graduate in December, I can see what I can do, but the next couple months are going to be crazy for me.
Good luck with your endeavors Gii.
Since Gii is leaving, we should consider finding a replacement, if the player you planned to bring in DM Twilight isn't interested, I am not against starting a recruitment thread to look for a new player.

Lars Andronsa |

I believe some of us were worried at our lack of healing power, hence the desire for another character to join. I personnally do not see it as an issue if you (the GM), takes that into accout during battles... but that's my take on those things.
While I've got nothing against changing things up in the AP, taking lack of healing into consideration sounds like making things easier and that I do not like.
In my opinion now would be the best time to introduce someone new as we are still in the very beginning.

Mirri Willowthir |

Sorry to see you go Gii!
*cries tears that instantly freeze*
If it weren't for the lack of healing I wouldn't be concerned about replacing him, but I think we should for that very reason. I also agree that now is the time.

Mirri Willowthir |
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On Wednesday July 29th when I leave for work I won't be home until August 2 due to my trip to GenCon Indy. I will post as I can during that time but it will likely be infrequent. Feel free to bot me during that time.

DM Twilight |

First, does anyone else have any input on applicants from the original recruitment? If not, I'll send out feelers to Linge Hagebak and Anchard since those are the two that have been mentioned to me so far.
Second, do you wish to wait to resume until we have a replacement or do you want to go ahead and start back up right away and work the replacement into the game when we have one?
Third, just to let you guys know a couple of things about me as a person and as a DM:
I'm 31 (almost 32) and the single mother of an autistic child (7 yrs). I am in college working on my Master's in Counseling. As you can imagine, when all is said and done I've got a lot on my plate to attend to. However, unless something huge has happened to keep me from it I check the forums several times a day.
As a DM I post when I feel it is appropriate for me to post. If I check the thread and you guys are engaging in some good role play and there is nothing urgent happening in game, I won't interrupt you. I love the actual character interactions. If things start to majorly lag and no one seems to be doing anything, I will prompt the group to see what's going on.
I make mistakes. It happens. There will inevitably be times where I forget something and will need a polite reminder. I welcome and encourage feedback. I discourage nit picking. It gets under my skin for a player to attempt to make sure every action is orchestrated to go a certain way, even worse when they attempt to govern other players actions. That being said, I have absolutely zero problem with PC versus PC violence. If character 'A' decides that character 'B' deserves to have his nose broken, character 'A' is welcome to roll the die and take the action without any reprimanding from me as a DM. Of course, this means that character 'A' might end up dead at the hands of character 'B' or that the group decides to shun character 'A' or whatever. Actions have consequences.
Something that I like to do as a DM is have all of my players make a wishlist for their characters (on your profile where I can view it whenever I want). I will draw random loot from these lists from time to time. If you tell me your birthday, and remind me when it is near, I will give your character something of reasonable value from your wishlist (I have yet to go over 10,000 pg value on a gift). If you don't want to tell me your actual birthday, but don't want to miss out on the freebie, choose another date to act as your birthday proxy. You may not get the gift on your actual birthday if you wish, as most do, for me to work the item into the story somehow as opposed to having you simply add it to your equipment list.

Lars Andronsa |

First, does anyone else have any input on applicants from the original recruitment? If not, I'll send out feelers to Linge Hagebak and Anchard since those are the two that have been mentioned to me so far.
Second, do you wish to wait to resume until we have a replacement or do you want to go ahead and start back up right away and work the replacement into the game when we have one?
Third, just to let you guys know a couple of things about me as a person and as a DM:
I'm 31 (almost 32) and the single mother of an autistic child (7 yrs). I am in college working on my Master's in Counseling. As you can imagine, when all is said and done I've got a lot on my plate to attend to. However, unless something huge has happened to keep me from it I check the forums several times a day.
As a DM I post when I feel it is appropriate for me to post. If I check the thread and you guys are engaging in some good role play and there is nothing urgent happening in game, I won't interrupt you. I love the actual character interactions. If things start to majorly lag and no one seems to be doing anything, I will prompt the group to see what's going on.
I make mistakes. It happens. There will inevitably be times where I forget something and will need a polite reminder. I welcome and encourage feedback. I discourage nit picking. It gets under my skin for a player to attempt to make sure every action is orchestrated to go a certain way, even worse when they attempt to govern other players actions. That being said, I have absolutely zero problem with PC versus PC violence. If character 'A' decides that character 'B' deserves to have his nose broken, character 'A' is welcome to roll the die and take the action without any reprimanding from me as a DM. Of course, this means that character 'A' might end up dead at the hands of character 'B' or that the group decides to shun character 'A' or whatever. Actions have consequences.
Something that I like to do as a DM is have all of my players make a wishlist for their...
Well if both applicants reply we may have to settle it through voting; so if that particular scenario occurs I suggest we all PM our votes to DM Twilight.
As for your second point, either is fine with me.
I'll get about writing that wishlist soon, but I had another inquiry before we go back to the game. Since we did not level up yet may I switch the Quickdraw feat with the Combat Expertise feat? I'd like start getting the dirty trick feats as soon as possible.